f C.10DPID BEAVERS 11.33, DUCKS 10.79 Oregon's hot and cold Web foot! and Oregon State's anxious Orange collide Saturday in the 44th renewal of their ancient "Civil war" and this year there's more at stake than the champion ahlp of the South Willamette valley. The Bearers can probably elneh the Rose Bowl bid with rictory. A lots throws the race Into a scramble again with Stanford's Indians fa vored for the invitation on the : basis of won and loss records. ' : The Ducks have the unhappy alternative of either defeat or what amounts to disgrace. A loss will give 'em four defeats in regular round-robin play. A win may put Stanford into the Pasa dena saucer a situation which will cut the heart of both Ore gon and Staters. This week we've forgotten our usual predictory doggerel in fa vor of a galloping poll of local former Oregon and Oregon State students. Wa questioned 12 ex-Oregon Staters and 17 ex-Oregons. Of the 12 former Bearers. 12 for mer Beavers said the current Beavers would win. Of the 17 ex-Ducks. 16 of 'am predicted an Oregon vic tory. The lone dissenter was John Eblnger who foresaw a . 19-13 Oregon State win. Biggest margin was foreseen by Lee Jacobs, KFJl's medium, who saw a 26-7 spanking admin istered by the Webfoots. Lee conditioned his prediction with the statement that IF the Ore gons are in top shape. Other wise he forecast only a very slight edge for the Ducks. . The average Oregon Stater was more confident than the average Joe Oregon. He indi cated the score would be 12.42 to S.66 for Orange. Jo Oregon also saw two touchdowns for his team but conceded the Beaver a touch down, the point afterward and a Meld goal besides. He fig ured the Webfoots would peel the Orange at 14.89 to 10.23. The average prognostleator. Oregon and Oregon Staters together, predicted the score would be Oregon State 11.33, Oregon 10.79. Oldest limb-climber was J. I. Beard, Oregon State 97, who gazed back througn me years and came up with a 13-6 score for the Beavers. 'Youngest was Adolph Zamsky, Oregon '40, who saw it 19-13 for the Ducks. Individually, it went like this: . ' . OREGON STATERS OSC Ore. Ed Geary, '15 7 0 C. A. Dunn, '11 10 6 Charley Mack, 31 21 19 Haarby Bechen, '32 13 . 9 Earl Hamaker, 13 7 0 Walt Waggoner. '08 13 0 Bob Thompson. '25 13 6 Jim Kerns Jr., '38 12 6 Earl Reynolds 13 7 Rudy Jacobs . 6 0 J. L Beard. '97 13 6 Innia Roberts. '30 21 21 OREGONS , Ore. OSC Greer 'Drew, '36 20 , 18 Lynn Roycroft, '23 IS 12 John Eblnger 13 19 Justin McDonald, 31 ..13 7 Mac Epley. '29 12 7 Deb Addison, '30 20 13 Wesley Guderian 13 12 Lee Jacobs, '22 ....26 7 Andy Collier 13 7 Cap Collier 14 13 Dr. George Adler 9 6 Otto Vitus 13 7 BiU Kuykendall 14 13 Bob Morrison, '35 13 7 Jane Epley 12 0 Adolph Zamsky, '40 19 13 Alexis Runyan 14 13 UIMtllaiMtiimiiMr i5flfl tttti-NOWnVETEMSOLO.. tfJC fji rwt tmriti SMM Brat . mi VNtktj b tW seflittt tt tbt . fin rai.iM.v.i.m Oregon-Oregon State Grid Tickets Sold Out; Beavers Favored Over Crippled Ducks Wet Weather Predicted For Clash EUGENE, Nov. 28 VP) At least half of the 20,500 football fans fortunate enough to hold 'high-premium" tickets for Sat urday's Oregon-Oregon State classic will get wet, according to weather forecasts made here this morning. But regardless of weather conditions and the in evitable poor footing of Hay- ward field, the lighter weight OSC eleven continues as a 5-to-4 betting favorite to win this 45th meeting between the two tradi tional intra-state rivals. Eugene hotels and local tourist cabins have been reserved for weeks, and latecomers have been forced to seek accommodations as far north as Junction City and south to Cottage Grove. There were 16 tickets still on sale when the office closed last night, but these "horsehide ducats" were gobbled up early this morning. There was little speculation, but mid-field tickets were selling at $15 per pair. There will be no general admis sion for the game here tomor row. The Beavers, with their first Rose bowl bid in history within their grasp, will be favored to avenge last year's 20-0 upset registered by the Ducks at Cor vallis and post their 14th victory in this 48-year-old series. Ore gon has won 24 and seven have ended in deadlocks. Through the assistance of Col onel Bill Hayward, track coach and retired trainer, Tex Oliver is expected to be able to use most of his "cripples." Hayward has fashioned special braces and splints for the injured Webfoots. Only Ray Segale, regular guard, and Bill Regner, regular end, are expected to be out of ,the starting lineups. The entire squad is suffering from injuries, but few are other than those naturally accumulated during a heavy schedule such as the Webfoots have played. Tha probabta lineup: Orwon Stat POt Oron ZMHck LR Snephard Wlckett LT Moahofilry HiWeraoa IB KhM Greenoagh OltTM C Wllion . CnlwrU . ABhcom RT RE J -IH RH T X. Pot; G. Pettra -Dethman . Jverson Rnulln Jltehim Eocb Dardan Sbeltoo Joe 'Sorry1 Sunday Punch Kayoes Heavy SAN JOSE. Calif., Not. 28 (IP) An unexpected flurry of hard blows last night excited Jo Louis, heavyweight box ing champion, so much that he knocked out George Giam bastiani, Los Angeles heavy weight, in the third round of a scheduled four-round exhi bition at municipal auditor ium. The business blow, a left hook flush to Giambastianl's jaw, came after 1 minute and 24 seconds of the third round. The excitement developed after two rounds of colorless boxing in which Louis shuf fled slowly around the ring toying with his sparring part ner. Suddenly in the third round, Giambastianl decided to exchange a few blows with the champion. Ha did and Jo retaliated with a Sunday punch. "In the excitement I slip ped on too many in. I'm awfully sorry." the champion apologised later. Midshipmen, Cadets Bet Shirts On Traditional Service Battle By DAVE NOPPER ANNAPOLIS, Md Nov. 28 (0 Navy's pulling that old army game on the army. Each year midshipmen cadet sweaters, cuff links and even the Army-Navy pigskin feud. classic is no exception. Tradition dictates an even bet, regardless of the strength of el ther football clan. Navy is fa vored to take the colorful 42nd service clash and the Middies claim that is why they're having difficulty getting their bets cov ered. So they're using the old army game. To get wagers accepted, the sailors are telling the West Pointers to "put up or shut up." And you don't know your cadets Save 20 On Memorials By Calling at Klamath Falls Marble and Granite Works 116 So. 11th St and Making Your Own Selection Manager li..0i!v'.'. M fi. A i Hans Lobert Hans Lobert New Pilot Of Phillies PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 28 (UP) John (Hans) Lobert, a stocky. redfaced veteran of 39 years in baseball, signed a one-year con tract Wednesday as manager of the Philadelphia Phillies, peren nial cellar team of the National league. Lobert, brown-haired, blue- eyed and of German extraction, described the moment of the an nouncement in President Gerald Nugent's office as the "greatest thrill" of his baseball career. Thus at 60 he reached a goal set when his playing days as one of the game's fastest third base men ended in 1917. He succeed ed J. Thompson (Doc) Prothro, soft-spoken former pilot of Mem phis and Little Rock in the Southern association. Prothro came here three years ago, suc cessor to Jimmy Wilson, but was unable to lift the Phils from the league basement. Nugent made no official an nouncement of salary terms but it was understood Lobert would receive 510,000. MEMPHIS, Term., Nov. 28 VP) James Thompson (Doc) Prothro is back in Memphis as manager of the Chicks' Southern Associ tion Baseball club apparently to stay. The 48-year-old former mana ger of the Philadelphia Phillies announced that he had acquired a financial interest in the club and would be a vice president. Ucla Coach Picks All-Star Coast Eleven LOS ANGELES, Nov. 28 VP) Coach Babe Horrell of UCLA, aided by his assistants Ray Rich ards and Bernie Masterson, has selected this all-Pacific Coast conference football team: Ends Dale Gentry, Washing ton, and Milt Smith, UCLA; Tac kles Jim Woody, Washington State, and Glen Conley, Wash ington; Guards Bill Ward, Wash ington State and Nate De Fran cisco, UCLA; Center Quentin Greenbough, Oregon State; Full back Jack Stackpool, Washing ton; Halfbacks Pete Kmetovic, Stanford, and Curt Mecham, Ore gon, and Quarterback Frankie Albert of Stanford. regiments wager bathrobes, full uniforms on the outcome of And Saturday's Philadelphia if you think they won't take a dare. That's exactly how the Mid dles figure the Graylegs will re act. The Middies have done a good job of accumulating Army's gray bathrobes and black sweat erg, with Navy gaining 10-0 and 14-0 victories the past two years. The entire regiment of more than 3000 blue-uniformed mid shipmen will witness the game. Campus Fever Soaring at Corvallis CORVALLIS, Ore., Nov. 28 (IP) Campus fever began to soar today in anticipation of Satur day's football gmno at Eugene between the possible Rose Bowl ers, Oregon Slate, and their final hurdle, the University of Ore gon. 'Beat Oregon" signs appeared on cars, windows and as cut-off lines in the Daily Barometer, student newspaper, but Rose Bowl talk was hushed. The traditional rivalry be tween the two schools was all the students needed to work up enthusiasm, and talk of bowl possibilities was with a crossed finger tone and a weather eye out for' Coach Lon Stiner. who has frowned on its mention in his presence. CORVALLIS. Ore.. Nov. 28 (IP) Only by a slight flicker did offi cialdom at Oregon State recog nize the trouncing Texas gave to Texas A. & M. yesterday as having a bearing on the Rose Bowl. Coach Lon Stiner gave his usual laconic answer to all Rose Bowl talk: "We play Oregon Satur day." Bud Forrester, publicity chief, admitted that he had heard a bit of Rose Bowl talk on the cam pus and elsewhere and that may be Texas would be in the pic ture but this comment was strictly unofficial. "In the minds of many sports fans it unquestionably alters the outlook," he said, "no matter which coast team is chosen." "We aren't in the Rose Bowl yet." he added. "We first have to beat Oregon. Then we have to be chosen by the faculty rep resentatives. It's still a long road." PAGE TEN Abrams Favored Over Zale In Garden Bout Friday By JACK CUDDY NEW YORK, Nov. 28 (UP) Georgia Abrams, the bouncing bo'sun's mate, is favored at 8-5 to beat tough Tony Zale of Gary, Ind., tonight at the Garden and thereby become the first undis puted world middleweight champion in a decade. 4iitix uiivuiufi Jiuiama w. naval air corps is favored over hard-hitting Tony, the National Boxing association's 160-pound ruler, because of his speed and boxing brilliance. Also because of his three non-title victories over Billy Soose, who recently vacated the New York section of the middleweight throne. However, Zale Is receiving heavy support, particularly from Chicago sportsmen, because of his punch and stamina, coupled with the facts Abrams cuts easily and is tackling his first 15-round bout. The championship distance may be difficult for Abrams be cause he has shown a tendency to tire in the closing sessions of 10-rounders. This bout will clear up the muddled middleweight division which hain't had a universally recognized champion since Mick ey Walker out-grew the class and relinquished the title In 1931 to parading in Philadelphia Munici pal stadium at 12:19 p. m. behind a 75-picce band. The gray-clad cadet regiment of approximately 1800 will follow. Navy's 41 grldders will - be given a rousing send-off by the regiment at 6:30 tonight when they entrain for Manufacturer's Country club, near Philadelphia. They will work out at the Temple university stadium to morrow. Stop! Looking for a Good Timet Come to Keno Dance EVERY SAT. NIGHT Music By OREGON HILLBILLIES Air Conditioned for Your Comfort, Tommy Top Minor Gainer Tommervik Winds Up Career Tomorrow Night By GAIL FOWLER SEATTLE, Nov. 28 (Mar vin "Tommygun" Tomniervlk, 1940 little All-America halfback at Pacific Lutheran college near Tacoma, Wash., will wind up his senior year as the greatest total offensive gainer in minor college football. American football statistical bureau figures released today show Tommervik has gained 1762 yards from passing and rushing in eight gnmcs, and still has a game left against College of the Pacific at Tacoma tomor row night in which he hopes to be the first to amass 2000 yards in one season. Despair Whether ho hits 2000 or not, it still will be a Horatio Alger success story, because four years ago as a freshman, his coach, Cliff Olson, clucked in despair at his awkward efforts. Tommervik rushed the ball 652 yards in 110 plays to rank sixth in rushing offense, and completed 61 of 120 passes to rank third among the passers in completions, although he boasts the highest pass yardage total 1110 yards. His nearest total offense com petitors have closed out their sea son so nobody can overtake him. J. C. Mceks, halfback from East Texas State, came in second with 1596 yards in eight games, but Injuries kept him from his team's final fray. Indian Caqers Slate 24 Gaines STANFORD. UNIVERSITY, Calif., Nov. 28 (UP) Stanford university Wednesday night an nounced its basketball team, 1940-41 southern division cham pions, would play 24 games in the 1941-42 season, opening against the Olympic club here December 3. The schedule Includes inter- sectional contests with Ohio State, Georgia Tech and Arizona teams. November 28, 1941 compete in heavier leagues. The brawl Is sanctioned by the NBA and the New York commission. Tony, at 26, is five years older than Abrams and he has had three years more ring experi ence. However, Abrams has been a busy battler, crawling through the ropes 49 times only 11 less than1 Zale. Because of his light punch, Abrams has knocked out only 10 opponents. Each had six bouts this year, with Zale's last competition on August 16, and Abrams" on October 13. Both are expected to come In just under the 160-pound limit. 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When ball is mapped, offensive end moves downfield and is covered by halfback. Then McAfee goes in motion and alow defensive center, who has moved over, mutt cover him. Army-Navy Collision Paces Final Big Weekend Program Texas Victory Tops Turkey Day Program PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 28 (IP) This city came down today with its annual attack of Army-Navyitls and brother this year it's bad. Hotels bulged at the seam, gold braid was a penny a yard as the first of 100.000 fans arrived to find out what happens (and anything can) when a two-ocran navy encounters a lightning fast Army rumored to be specially armor-plated for the occasion. They'll get the answer tomorrow at municipal stadium, but at this hour, even the betting fraternity was split on the odds. The sorriest spectacle In town was the ticket speculator. Every one wants to go to the football game, but tickets were snapped up weeks ago through the regu lar West Point and Annapolis channels and few found their way Into the hands of the middle man. He's asking $25 each for the few available he could sell hun dreds too but won't guarantee the quality. The weatherman bestowed his favor on the Army gray right off promising a fast field built for the swift-breaking aerial and ground attack which has brought the Cadets victory in all but three games this season. Navy, bulwarked two deep In sheer manpower thot bowled over everyone except Notre Dome and Harvard (a tic), hoped for a heavy field on which to launch its drcadnaughts. This year the Army is host and will accord the midshipmen the honor of entering the sta dium first. Tho blue-clad mid shipmen will march on the field at 9:15 a. m. (PST), led by the naval academy's 75-picce band. 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For the second time In two years, Coach Dana Bible's Long horns ruined a perfect record for their rivals at A. & M., although this time the Aggies had the southwest conference title safe ly tucked away. Another southwest entry, tail end Arkansas, kept Its season from being a total flop by whip ping Tulsa, champion of the Mis souri valley, 13-6. It snapped a seven-gamo winning streak for tho Oklahomans and a four gamc losing streak for Arkansas. ioxiho Br Tha ANsalalae Prm rMHKV. K. J. Tour f'lim Vnnli. n. N. J., and an MHUr, PhllH.lphl, drt-w. (B), HfM'll KXTKIt, X. V. - Harrf TeanM. Cli'Vrldttil. otllpnlntril Tommy Splf,l, L'nlnnlowii. I'n., 110). Kl.lA IIKT1I. K. J. Jirk K.nnjr, T.lrlaaton. MitpnlntH fanny Moora. N. York. . Looking for Bargains? Turn to tho Classified page. So when you go out on a piny Know what you drink t Be a "smarty" Say Seagram's you'll find That it's really designed To be gentle yet mellow and hearty. Qg)0 QG Q(S(56n spa1' f 4 4K5 Larson Ends Tenure As Navy Coach ANNAPOLIS, Md, Nov. 28 (UP) MJ. Emery E. (Swede) Larson will end his duties at navy football coach with th game against Army tomorrow. It was announced Thursday night. The announcement no sur prise because It was understood that Larson's tenure as heac coach would only Inst for three years came from the superin tendent of the naval academy, Rear Admiral Russell Wilson. Ho said ho had bean notified by marino corps heiKkiuurtcrs that Larson will be detached In December from current duty as commanding officer of the marine detachment stationed here. DBA nSAOBR I My huthintf parfara li maha a living Ity hla arlla. Half tha lima a ara ual I wo umpa ahaail al lha vlmlM and I'm not lha lumnar I uatd la ha. Should I dlvoraa him and laoh far anathar ramanaaf L0NII0MS. See th Aniwar In "MARRIED BACHELOR" ESQUIRE - Sunday v 4 i : r