THURSDAY. SEPTEMBER 19. 1963
MEDKORD MAIL TRIBUNE. MEUFORO. OREGON
ritish Scientist Favors U.S. an-On-AAoon Project
MEDKORD MAIL TRIBUNE. MEDKORD. OREGON
THURSDAY. SEPTEMBER 19.
By ROBERT MUSEL
United Press International
MANCHESTER, Eng. (UPD
Sir Bernard Lovell, Britain s
best known space authority,
wants to make one thing clear
he is absolutely in favor of the
American man-on-the-moon proj
ect as one of the greatest enter
prises humanity has ever faced.
The 50-year-old scientist was a
frankly worried man as he spoke
to this reporter about his recent
trip to Russia and the suggestion
he brought back that Soviet sci
entists were ready to abandon
their own effort to land an astro
naut on the moon in favor of
some sort of international proj
ect. Lovell said he was distressed
because his remarks had been
misinterpreted in the United
States as opposition to the Amer
ican venture and because his
critical comments on certain as
pects of the American space pro
gram notably the rainbow
bomb and the cloud of needles
had led to charges he was a
"pink."
Not Anti-American
"This has caused me a great
deal of personal worry," he said.
"It is absurd to call me anti
American. Even the slightest
criticism of anything the United
States does in space draws this
sort of attack despite the enor-
h.tn ujo have alwavs given
the Americans here at Jodrell
BThe setting of the interview-
the radio telescope ana reoiv...
station founded and directed by
Lovell was pure sciente-i".""
as Hollywood might imagine it
in its glossiest style. Lovell,
high-domed and intense, sat with
his bacK 10 a F1Ll"lc,. ,j T
which framed, in the field be
hind him, one of the most excit
ing human constructions on
earth.
Suspended between two towers
185 feet high was a vast saucer
250 feet across nearly the size
of a football field. This is man
kind's most acute ear, the giant
radio telescope that has tracked
the American and Russian satel
lites and listened to the stupend
ous collision of galaxies of stars
hundreds of millions of light
years distant in space.
Tiny men with buckets of red
paint crawled over it and its
aerial pointed for the moment to
the ground. But soon it would
swing towards the heavens
.,,; in hnuncind radar echoes
off the planets, to its quest for
the secrets of the origin of the
liniuoi-PP.
Lnwll's thoughts, however,
were much closer to home
AiMit lum months ago in MoS'
cow, in the Bijou Palace that
once was Catherine the Great s
and now is the presidium ui u...
Annmv nf Sciences, no neoiu
n extraordinary admission
from Mstislav Keldysh, who is
president of the top Russian sci-
cntilic ooay. . .
Keldysh said Soviet scientists
saw no solution in the present
state of the art w me piuu.um
of protecting an astronaut from
fatal doses of radiation on his
way to the moon, while he was
there and on the return journey.
Some new and as yet unknown
form of shielding would have to
be discovered first, the Russian
told Lovell. , ,
Keldysh also said that al
though the Rusians had hit the
moon as far back as Sept, 3,1959
a feat tracked ana veruicu uj
Jodrell Bank-they had not been
able to produce a method ol
Gamble Benedict
Sought by Husband
ZURICH, Switzerland (UPI)
Andrei Porumbeanu, "shaken
up" by the news his heiress
wifo wants to dlvorco him, to
day was reported seeking a
meeting with her somewhere in
Vitrniw
Friends of the couple said
tho 37-year-old Romanian-born
playboy arrived in Zurich Wed
nesday night to search for his
22-ycar-old wifo, the former
Gamble Benedict. Ho flew in
from New York.
Gamblo Is one of the heirs to
tho huge Remington typewriter
fortune. She and her sons,
Georghe, 2, and Grigore. 10
months, dropped out of sight a
week ago.
On Tuesday, Gamble's attor
ney, Eugen Curti, announced
that the former New York debu
tante had filed for divorce from
Porumbeanu on the grounds of
misconduct.
He also said she stripped Por
umbeanu, 37, of his power of
attorney to administer the in
come from a $20 million trust
fund set up for her.
TO FAVOR PROJECT
WASHINGTON (UPI) - In
terior Secretary Stewart Udall
will approve a report recom
mending development of the $9
million Tualatin Reclamation
project in Oregon, Sens. Maur
ine Neuberger and Wayne
Morse (D-Ore.) said Tuesday.
getting the astronaut back from
the moon, even assuming he
landed there safely.
Abandon Moon Project
Therefore, he said, the Soviets
were setting aside their man-on-the-moon
project in favor of
landing instruments on the
moon.
On his return from a trip
which included the first visit by
a westerner to the main Russian
tracking station in the Crimea,
Lovell wrote to James E. Webb,
head of the National Aeronau
tics and Space administration in
the United States, embodying
the gist of what he had been told
by Keldysh.
In effect this was that Russia
would favor an international ef
fort to put a man on the moon,
if it were decided at an interna
tional scientific congress that
this feat was possible.
Somehow, Lovell feels, his
anxiety that the West should
know Soviet thinking on the proj
ect was garbled in its transmis
sion to the United States and he
found he was regarded as oppos
ing a project he always has fa
vored. He was delighted when I
was able to inform him that
Senator Clinton P. Anderson of
the Senate Space committee
agreed that his views had been
misunderstood.
Anderson made public the ex
change of letters between Lovell
and Webb who said that if the
Russian academy was sincerely
interested the matter might be
further explored.
Lovell told me his position was
this:
"I would like to see an inter
national effort to land a man on
the moon. But if Russia has
really decided to abandon this
phase of its program and one
should exercise caution in trying
to assess what Russia will actu
ally do then I am in favor of
the United States going ahead
with its own plans."
He went on to explain his rea
sons for this after he had re
turned again to the charges he
was anti-American, which plain
ly had upset him.
"When I comment on any of
the American space projects I
do so as a scientist," he said.
"To call me pink if my remarks
are critical is as ridiculous as
calling President Kennedy a
leftist because he receives Pre
mier Khrushchev."
Opposes Needles
In the past, Lovell has been
vehemently opposed to the
American idea for a "cloud" of
needles around the earth intend
ed to form a jam-proof radio
bouncing board for high-speed
messages in the event of war.
These were fired into space
by the United States last May
the dale was not announced for
security reasons and radio con
tact was established by May 12.
It was calculated that the 400
million needles would form a
closed path (or "cloud") 40,000
miles long around the earth
about the third week in June.
Officials said the first contacts
with the needles were highly
successful. They estimated that
in less than five years they
would descend into the earth's
atmosphere and be burned up.
"All radio astronomers were
concerned about this project,"
Lovell said. "We aren't partic
ularly worried about the present
test as it is temporary. But if
an operational system comes out
of it, it will be bigger, wider and
more permanent and it will in
contestably interfere with cer
tain projects in astronomy."
Lovell said radio astronomy
was a new science without pow
erful or unified support and it
needed a protected radio band
to carry out its main duty of ex
ploring the universe. The needle
plan had not taken this into ac
count. "Provided we are given wave
bands on which no one else is
transmitting, one ot our main
complaints about
would be removed,
this project
' he said.
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SOVIET 'DREAM HOUSE'-This Soviet Union
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the architect. It is worth 22.000 rubles, the
equivalent of three years' average income in
Russia. An American could buy a $20,000 house
with three years' average income. (UPI)
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Bv A. ROBERT SMITH
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Udall had pointed out that
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WASHINGTON (UPI) - Re
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Under the GOP amendment,
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