2 g SUNDAY. JULY 14. 1863 , MEDFORD MAIL TRIBUNE. MEDFORD. OREGON
Vastness of America Impresses English Students Working in Area
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WORK IN GRANTS PASS Ian Fawcctt and Paul O'Leary
left to right, are working in Grants Pass at Spalding Lumber
company and Rogue Dairy Products. Fawcett is studying
medicine at Cambridge, and O'Lcary is in engineering. Faw
cctt resides with the William Sloans, 1429 Cherry lane, and
O'Lcary at the Gordon Burns home, 1S99 Willow lane, Grants
Pass.
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By EVA HAMILTON
Mail Tribune Staff Writer
Cambridge University.
Cambridge, England, is still
approximately 6.00U air miles
from southern Oregon, U.S.A.
In thinking and under
standing, however, Cam
bridge students and southern
Oregon residents will never
again be that far apart, thanks
to the Cornerstone of De
mocracy program, members
of the Oregon Junior Cham
ber of Commerce are convinc
ed. The Jaycecs are responsible
for adding 18 Cambridge stu
dents to Oregon's summer
population, five of them in
the Rogue valley.
The five in southern Ore
gon are Tony Payne, now of
Central Point; Paul U Leary
and Ian Fawcctt, Grants Pass;
and Nick Halton and Terry
Jenkins, Medford.
Third Year of Program
This is the third year that
Cambridge students have been
brought to Oregon by the Jay-
cee program, in whicn trnest
R. Kennedy, last year's state
chairman of the program,
started working as interna
tional relations committee
chairman in 1960.
Under the program sum
mer jobs and homes arc found
for the youths. The students
pay for tneir transportation
across. AH flew from London
to Montreal and then motored
west in private cars or buses.
Next year the Jaycecs hope
to expand the program to in
clude West Germany, Ken
nedy said. Gordon Burns,
Grants Pass, is now state in
ternational relations director
for the Jaycees. Robert Bur
ton and Wayne Medford arc
this year's co-chairman of the
Cornerstone of Democracy
program.
Prepare for Professions
At Cambridge, the five vis
iting students have been pre
paring for a variety of profes
sions doctor, solicitor, en
gineer, actuary and real estate
manager. Here, four are
working in sawmills and one
in a dairy.
Screening of students for
the 1963 project in Oregon
was done by Frank Brierley,
who spent the summer of 1962
in the Rogue valley, return
ing to Cambridge for his sen
ior year.
In spile of the variety of
interests and ambitions rep
resented in the Cambridge
autnlet. there are - certain
fields in which there seems
HOWN AT JOB Tony Payne, who is qualifying for real
state management at Cambridge. Is shown on his lob at Mt.
mt company, where 15 tier cent ot the summer crew is
made up ot college students. He Is llvlne, with Mr. and Mrs. to be strong agreement, inter
Li , ' "B uestrlDeQ vlews W'h 'he students re
nts trip across me states as jolly good. . vealed.
Events From Newspapers of
Early Days Being Catalogued
When the alphabetical card
Index filing system which is
being prepared by Giles Green
at the Jacksonville museum is
completed, accessibility to
local events chronicled in
early Jackson county news
papers will be quickly avail
able. Microfilm copies of these
county papers, which date
back to 1850, are inserted in a
"Recordak," a projector made
specially for enlarging the
mall print on the microfilm.
Green, libarian at Ashland
High School, reads and cata
logues those articles of hislor-
leal interest, and Miss C.aylc
Offenbacher, a senior at Med
ford High school, does Ihc typ
ing and filing.
Items or topics pertinent to
Oregon and northern Califor
nia history are listed on
Individual cards using a cross
filing system similar to that
used by libraries.
In four weeks at the mu
seum, Green has compiled
cards for the Table Rock Sen
tinel (the first Jacksonville
paper) from 1858 to 1867.
Stories of stagecoach travel
were common, and some of
the listings in the card cata
' logue under stage coach truvel
might be accidents, Indian
assaults, and physical difficulties.
During this period, articles
In the papers were filled with
excitement and agitation
about the proposed telegraph
line and the verbatim message
is reproduced of the first tele
grnph message from Portland,
Maine, to Portland, Ore.
The possibility of a railroad
was hopefully discussed since
tlic nearest shipping point was
Roscbiirg and all valley trans
portation had to be by oxen
or norscs.
Has Had Two Papers
Jacksonville always had
two, and sometimes more, pap
era l the same time, and the
museum files arc especially
valuable since they contain
copies of the two major pap
ers. The division between pap
ers was particularly acute
about the time of the Civil
War when one of the papers
was pro-South and the other
pro-Union. The language used
in editorials In papers today
might be designated as "sissy"
In comparison with that used
by editors In those days. Near
ly any expression wai permissible.
Mail was a problem In those
days. Delivery northward
seemed to stop at Yrcka, and
southbound mail came to a
dead end at Canyonville. Local
residents were left in a
vacuum.
Troubles with the Indians
were detailed in the papers,
but readers had to remember
that only one side of the dis
pute was prcscntcu.
Interesting Problem
An Interesting problem ex
ists which some future histor
ian might solve, "Is there a re.
lallnnship between Sachs, an
early Jacksonville mercantile
establishment, and Saks of
Fifth avenue. New York?"
Some people think there is.
An impediment to the com.
plctcd index arc the occasion.
al blackcd-out spaces found
In the papers. Since the pap.
ers In the museum came from
many sources, censorship was
apparently exercised by van.
ous individuals for assorted
reasons.
Among the more than 20
papers at the museum are the
Central Point Herald, the
Gold Hill News, the South
Oregon Eye, the South Oregon
Moniler, the Medford lnquir
er, and the Medford Mail
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RECORDING EVENTS Giles Green Is
ataewo at the "Recordak." examining an
early Rogue valley newspaper. Miss Gayle
Offenbacher, typist. Is shown at the left.
They are recording events from valley news
paper dating bark to 1856.
The vastness of America is
the thing with which they
have been most impressed, if,
as Terry Jenkins, 22, put it,
they may be forgiven for
rather trite remark."
"America seems to contain
in one country everything I've
seen in all the other coun.
tics I've visited," O'Leary
declared with enthusiasm, ad
ding that he has traveled
18 or 19. "The change of
scenery in this country
really fantastic," he added
Halton said he knew hi:
geography well, but is still
a "bit overwhelmed by the
enormity of the country." He
expected it, he made it clear,
but is "impressed with the
sheer space of the country.
side in this valley. It's beau
tiful," he exclaimed.
Mines Hedge Fences
Tony Payne misses the
hedge fences and the sheep,
and he hasn't seen a garden
"that compares favorably
with the worst English gar
den." v
All these students obvious
ly approve of the National
Health and Insurance pro
gram in England, the Royal
family, and the manner in
which students are accepted
at Cambridge. Several of
them took a hefty jab at Eng
lish politics but not one word
was spoken in criticism of
the Queen or members of her
family.
Fawcett, who is in his third
year at Cambridge and study
ing medicine, said he is free
to choose any branch of medi
cine he wants. He may also
engage in private practice al
though everyone is under the
national health program.
Pay Private Rate
"Many older people," he
explained, "often pay the
private rate imagining that
they are getting better care.
So you see we do have private
practicing physicians. AH hos
pitals are completely state
The only general complaint
with the system is connected
with foreigners," Fawcett,
wno now plans to enter sur
gery, continued. Both ior-
cign doctors and foreign pa
tients." To elucidate, he said the
only doctors with whom the
people express dissatisfaction
are doctors from other coun
tries who enter the hospitals.
The people also resent the
fact that citizens of other
countries, who become ill in
England or develop a need for
glasses or dentistry, while
there, receive these services
for the same price that Is
paid by the English, who sup
port the program.
This situation has been Im
proved, O'Leary volunteered,
by the fact that five European
countries have developed re
ciprocal programs. If English
residents need medical care
while in one of these coun
tries, they received it for
the same price they would
pay in their homeland.
Enthusiastic About Program
Fawcett seemed enthusias
tic about the program and in
sisted that doctors do well
in England ("Not so well fi
nancially as they do in the
United States, but no one else
does.")
The two students, who were
accompanied to Medford from
Grants Pass by Del Renfro,
Grants Pass chairman of the
Cornerstone of Democracy
program, agreed that some
"newly qualified doctors" are
leaving for Australia and Can
ada.
Everyone In England is cov
ered by the program, Faw
cett and O'Lcary emphasized.
When a person reaches 18 he
is given a card. If he is em
ployed, the employer puts
stamp on the card each week
These stamps are obtained at
the post office.
England, also, has private
insurance plans, the students
reported. Under these an in
dividual pays 1 per cent tor
every $3 earned and can
choose his own physician and
a private room at the hos
pital.
Into English Poliiici
Guided into an assessment
of English politics, several of
the youths sounded like their
counterparts in the United
States, finding fault with both
parties. One insisted that the
political situation "is so bad
he Just isn't interested
O'Leary and Fawcett Insisted
they weren't referring to the
Profumo scandal, cither.
"Your system Is much bet
ter," they added, tossing
bouquet to the United States
on Its regular elections. "The
conservatives have just been
in too long, 13 years. Eut
what will we get if we put
them out?
Jenkins seemed to feci
bit differently about it. He
voiced the opinion that "the
conservative party will pull
through." And the opinion
had the sound of an expressed
hope.
Halton said the British were
not truly concerned about the
social scandal involved In the
Profumo case, but the fact
dial perjury was Involved
That, he made it clear, Is the
sin.
The Magic Age
Turning the conxersation to
cars, speed limits and enter
tainment, Halton said "Twen-
NOW IN ASHLAND Terry Jenkins, who is currently at
home with the Edward H. Barrys, 1916 Military rd., is work
ing for McGrew Brothers, Ashland, now engaged in disman
tling the sawmill at Bellvicw. When he returns to tngland
he will enter the offices of Mercantile and General Reinsur
ance comDany in London as an actuary in insurance and
investment. While other members of the English quintet play
rugby, tennis and squash, Jenkins prefers chess and bridge.
the dances where-
ty-lwo is the magic age at
Cambridge. Students at Cam
bridge cannot have cars until
they are 22. (Halton is 22.)
Few American cars are
bought in England because of
the petrol they eat. And mo
tor boats, they are a sign of
great wealth in England. Here
I see them everywhere."
Halton and Jenkins have
already enjoyed water skiing
at Emigrant lake.
Halton thinks Cliff Rich
ard, singer, is the idol of the
English students. Payne, who
lso likes classical music,
finds Elvis Presley "is the
greatest." Fabian is popular
ison are
ever young people gather,
the boys from Cambridge be
lieve. They prefer television
and radio the way they are
handled in England, without
the commercials.
Motorcycles and scooters
are popular and crash helmets
are a must under the English
law.
Notice Difference
Several of the students
have noticed a distinct dif
ference in eating habits in this
country. Others find them
quite the same. Each, how
ever, menlionea tnat mere
seems to be an excess of ham-
too. The twist and the Mad-1 burgers.
O'Leary. Fawcett and Jenk
ins said they didn t eat pan
cakes for breakfast in Eng
land. In. fact. O'Leary said,
they are rearely eaten by the
English except on Shrove
Tuesday. The students, who
tried them dry upon first ar
rival in the United States,
were glad to learn of the but
ter and syrup treatment.
The abundance of motels
(there is only one on the
drive from Liverpool to Lon
don); the presence of speed
limits (there is none on the
dual carriage way in Eng
land), the driveins, the super
markets and the sophistica
tion of young girls are all dif
ferences that the students no
tice in America, they agreed.
They haven't noticed exces
sive drinking by young peo
ple in either country. They
are allowed alcoholic drinks
at age 18 in England.
Offer Criticism
They offered criticims of
the educational system in
England under which ll-year-olds
are required to prove
themselves. If a student is
weeded out of academic edu
cation at Wh years, they
maintained, it is difficult fcr
him to get back in. It does
happen, but rarely in England.
The five students, voicing
their appreciation of the Jay
cce program, said their long
desire to visit the United
States could not have been
satisfied otherwise.
"This way we really see
the American way of life. We
get to know people in their
homes and believe me there
is a lot that the English and
Americans need to know
about each other," they
agreed.
"For instance, "O'Leary
pinpointed the contention,
"These are two of the ques
tions I have been asked re
peatedly, 'What language do
you speak in England, and do
you celebrate the Fourth of
July?' Imagine that."
Druids Celebrate
Asked if the English don't
celebrate mid-summer in July,
O'Leary said, "Only the few
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WORKS ON GREEN CHAIN Nick Halton, who is working
on the green chain at Delah Timber Products, White City,
is also living with the Barrys on Military road. He is going
to be a solicitor, a lawyer, who does not appear before the
bar. He has traveled extensively and climbed many moun
tains. Last year in Austria he built houses for refugees, a
job he obtained by applying through the United Nations.
Druids, who remain. They do
have a celebration at the old
est monument in the world
Stone Henge, the primitive
temple constructed by the
Druids in the south of Eng
land."
The five are looking for
ward to the Shakespearean
festival.
Payne said he had lived in
Straford, but has met a fel
low here, who works in the
woods, but knows more about
Shakespeare's works than he
does.
All will be assisting on op
ening night at Ashland when
the Jaycees sponsor the
"Feast of Will."
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