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Medtcrd and Jackson County
History from the tiles of The
Mall Tribune 10, 20, 30, 40
and SO years ago.
10 YEARS AGO
Not. S, 1952 (Wednesday)
Jackson eountv voters will
have tn await completion of
the official election canvass
tn team whether or not weath
er control and cloud modifi
cation In the county will re
main legal. It may take two
or three weeks.
A record number of voters
-75.2 per cent of the 36,067
who were registered - went to
the polls in Jackson county's
general election.
20 YEARS AGO
Not. S. 1942 (Thursday)
Assistant Fire Chief Ed Ca
noose summons fire depart
ment when blaze breaks out
in his home.
From Arthur Perry's "Yc
Smudge Pot" column: "Many
people were Just too busy to
vote. Just like when Jury
service looms, there is always
hay to pilch and it looks like
rain.
30 YEARS AGO
Not. 5, 1932 (Saturday)
Unknown thief takes 132
pairs of ladies' stockings from
local department store.
Hat with bullet hole, pair
of overalls and other articles
found in Little Applegate
area; owner feared victim of
foul play.
40 YEARS AGO
Not. 5. 1922 (Sunday)
Two men fatally lnurcd
in explosion in road crew
camp near Prospect.
Jacksonville man shoots
wife, commits suicide; wife
said near death in local hos
pital. SO YEARS AGO
Not. S. 1912 (Tuesday)
Woodrow Wilson elected
president with 399 electornl
votes; Theodore Roosevelt
gets 121 and William Howard
Taft receives 20; in local
elections Frank TnuVellc elec
ted county judge and E. E.
Kelly elected prosecuting at
torney. Local rancher receives
"very good price" of $7.65
per hundred pounds fur 7B
hogs marketed in Medford.
Whal's Your I.Q.?
Nine er ten correct Is superior;
seven or eight Is excellent; five Of
six is good.
1. In tennis, what is
score of zero called?
2. Where are Nobel Prizes
awarded?
3. Who was the first Rom
an to lead an cxpcdilion to
Britain?
4. WliHt is the translation
of 'habcous corpus'?
5. tlow many arms dues
an octopus have?
6. What were thr first two
major political parlies called
In the U.S.?
7. How high is the Wash
ington Monument?
8. Who was the Prophet of
the Mormons?
9. What is a Presidential
salute. In terms of gi ns?
10. What did Litlle Jack
Horner eat?
Answers; 1, Lore. 2. Swe
den. 3. Julius Caesar. Pro
duct the body. 5. Eight. S.
Federalists and Republicans.
7. S4S feet and a Inch. 9.
Joseph Smith. 9. Twenty. one
guns tired in succession. 10.
Christmas Pie. I
NOVEMBER 5. 1962
Apathy and Election
Apathy 1. Want of feeling; lack of passion, emo
tion, or excitement. 2. Indifference to what appeals to
feelings or interest. Webster's Collegiate Dictionary.
This has been a moderately interesting cam
paign year, but it certainly hasn't generated any
thing like the heat and passion of some earlier
election seasons.
There has been "apathy" yes. We've been
able to work up a rather substantial amount of
personal apathy on some of the races, in line with
the often-heard slogan in the California election,
"Vote NO for governor."
On other matters on the ballot, we have had
and still have considerable concern. Probably
everyone is that way; there are some races about
which they feel strongly, others about which they
could hardly care 'ess.
A PATHY, as such, is neither a sin nor a virtue
" except as it relates to its subject matter. We
would, indeed, encourage apathy in any voter
who has not taken the timp and trouble to inform
himself about what he's going to vote on.
In our view, an uninformed or ignorant vote
is far worse than no vote at all. Democracy is a
fine ideal, but to all who hold it dear, it also
implies an informed and literate electorate.
All of which is by way of saying that if you
don't know, don't vote; if you don't care, don't
vote. Leave it up to those who do know and do
care.
See you at the polls? E.A.
Candidate Recommendations
FOR UNITED STATES SENATOR
101 Wayne L. Morse
FOR CONGRESS, FOURTH DISTRICT
103 Robert B. Duncan
FOR GOVERNOR, STATE OF OREGON
105 Mark Hatfield
FOR LABOR COMMISSIONER
109 Norman 0. Nilsen
FOR STATE SENATOR FROM JACK
SON COUNTY
110 L. W. (Lynn) Ncwbry
FOR SATE REPRESENTATIVE,
JACKSON COUNTY
(Vote for three)
112 Alva N. (Al) Bradford
113 Edward Branchfield
117 James A. Redden
FOR COUNTY ASSESSOR
118 Thad W. Hatten
FOR COUNTY CLERK
120 Bereth P. Hopkins
FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER
122 Donald E. "Don" Faber
FOR COUNTY JUDGE
125 Earl M. Miller
FOR COUNTY SHERIFF
126 "De" A. Leigh
NON-PARTISAN BALLOT
FOR JUDGE OF THE SUPREME
COURT, NO. 1
201 William M. McAllister
FOR JUDGE OF THE SUPREME
COURT, NO. (5
202 Arno II. Denecke
FOR JUDGE OF THE OREGON TAX
COURT
203 Peter Gunnar
FOR JUDGE OF THE DISTRICT
COURT, JACKSON COUNTY
20-1 L. L. Sawyer
CITY OF MEDFORD
FOR MAYOR
155 Jimniv Diiiilevy
FOR COUNCILMAN First Ward
15S Robert J. Cunningham
FOR COUNCILMAN Second Ward
Kil Donald Hansen
FOR COUNCILMAN Third Ward
Ki l Robert L. Barais
FOR COUNCILMAN Fourth Ward
1()7 Richard H. Travis
E.A.
Measures Recommendations
1. REORGANIZE STATE MILITIA Yes.
2. FOREST REHABILITATION DEBT
LIMIT AMENDMENT Yes.
3. PERMANENT ROAD DEBT LIMIT
AMENDMENT Yes.
1. POWER DEVELOPMENT DEBT
LI M 1 T A M EN DM ENT Yes.
5. STATE COURTS: CREATION AND
JURISDICTION Yes.
. DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME Yes.
7. CONSTITUTIONAL SIX PER CENT
LIMITATION A M EN DM EN T Y es.
8. Ruled off ballot; if it appears on
yours, no need to vote.
!. LEGISLATIVE APPORTIONMENT
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT
-Yes.
10. REPEALS SCHOOL DISTRICT RE
O R G A N I Z AT 1 0 N 1 . A W No.
52 FLUORIDATION OF MEDFORD
CITY WATER SUPPLY Yes.
E.A.
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contrary is often the case.
How Can He Lose
To the Editor: One last
word about the election. With
St. Peter on the side of Sen
ator Morse, how can he lose?
David Frisch
P. O. Box 292
White City, Ore.
Concerning Qualifications
To the Editor: I would like
to register a large protest
against the posters and ads of
sheriff candidate De Leigh.
The term "Best Qualified"
which he uses is simply a
claim. It's nature is such that
it should not be used in a
campaign. He is simply say
ing, "I am the best." What
he could have honestly claim
ed is something like this: "I
have had more experience in
the law enforcement field and
this experience was gained
more than a decade ago."
I have seen cases where a
man had 15 years of experi
ence or more in a certain
field and was so inept in his
work that the big problem
was how to get rid of him.
Practice does NOT make per
fect. If you have no talent
for the violin you could not
achieve quality if you prac
ticed for 60 years. So, ex
perience does not necessarily
mean "best qualified." There
are other factors to be con
sidered, like real ability, as
tute judgment, concept of the
complete job as sheriff, abil
ity to inspire confidence, co
operation and loyalty in his
own and other departments.
Things like good character,
disposition, temperament, at
titude toward the public of
fice, toward the people of the
county, are very important.
Some of these pre-requisites
for the vi of sheriff may be
dormai faintly manifested
in Mr. h, but in my opin
ion the, qualities are firm
ly evident in Berle Stephens.
Therefore, Berle Stephens is
the "Better Qualified" candi
date. Dorris Chinn
101 Lozier Lane
Medford.
G.O.P. Incident
To the Editor: I would like
to let the local people know
of the unfortunate incident
that took place at our Vet
eran's Hospital in White City.
This omirrance happened
last Saturday afternoon when
some members of the Republi- j
can party, mostly candidates'
by the way. used the bad
judgment to come on the hos
pital grounds honking horns
and yelling to attract atten-j
tion. j
1 would like lo point out!
that they created such a dis
turbance that we were com
pelled lo ask them to leave
the area. I want lo let the
people know that we resent
this unwarranted attack upon
our privacy that most people
have the good sense to re
spect .
If the initials G.O.P. stand
for Grand Old Party then
there must be something rad
ically wrong with the local
representatives because there
whs certainly nothing grand
about this party.
1 can assure you that if this
was an attempt to influence
thr voters out here it cerlainlv
has
Ralph Nelson
VA Domiciliary
Camp White, Ore
Important Day
To the Editor: Tomorrow
is a very important day tu our
lives.
Those of you who will be
going to the polls realize, I
am sure, that the way you
vote enn change the way your
government operates on local,
state, and national levels for
the next two years. Rut 1
wonder how many voters
know what a tremendous
change is w rought m the lives I
MAIL TRIBUNE, MEDFORD,
For Thi. Thing"
bear the name and address of
of candidates and their fam
ilies, from the day a man files
for office through that crucial
day of decision by the voters-
and beyond.
We have shared this ex
perience four times now.
When Bob first filed for State
Representative six years ago,
we had no idea how far we
would all go down this new
road or how much would be
expected of us as a family.
We have all campaigned the
younger children think a pic
nic is a place where lots of
people gather together to hear
speeches and they think
nothing of climbing into an
airplane (piloted by their fa
ther) or car and going a hun
dred miles or more to hear
their Dad make one! My teen
agers, Nancy and Angus, are
far more knowledgeable
about politics and government
at 17 and 16 than 1 was at
25. And the baby, Bonnie Dee,
who incidentally arrived in
the middle of a legislative
session in Salem, has nnauy
become adjusted to waving
goodbye to Mom and Dad
without a flood of tears.
What I am trying to ex
press is that it has been a
wonderful and enriching ex
perience getting to know
people all over Oregon and
particularly here in our dis
trict, moving the family to
Salem for the legislative ses
sion, my working alongside
Bob during those sessions, our
sense ot involvement in tne
terribly important business of
government. The friends we
have made and the helping
hands all along the way were
rewards in themselves.
I have great faith that Bob
will be elected to Congress
tomorrow but whatever hap
pens, we are all better ana
stronger and more aware
than we were six years ago;
and for this we will be for
ever grateful.
Mrs. Bob Duncan
1500 Terrace dr.
Medford.
Exceptional Representation
To the Editor: It is easy to
tell just before an election
who the strongest and best
candidates are. They are the
ones who are continually be
ing attacked in the letters to
the editor. I guess this is one
of the things people in poli
tics gel used to. but it must
be pretty hard when the at
tacks are as prejudiced and
unfair as the ones against Bob
Duncan have been.
1 must admit that 1 have
been shocked that this could
happen right here In Bob's
home county. It's hard for me
lo understand how people
whom he's served and served
well for six years in the Ore
gon Legislature could be so
vicious in their opposition
I have nothing
personal
j against Bob's opponent, but
these people are building him
; up out of all proportion. After
1 all. he whs only a member of
the House during the two
j terms when Bob Duncan, as
! Speaker, was running it. I
can'l imagine how he came j
to know so much so fast. It
, looks like a big promotion I
backed by plenty of money j
of a rather ordinary young j
man.
Well. I started out to write
about Bob Dun. an. But I rcal
! ly shouldn't need to. The peo-
1 pie in this county who have
i depended on his good Judg
i nient and sound thinking for
six years know that they have
had not just good, but excep
tional, representation in the
j Legislature, And that Is lust
! what thry will have in Con
! Ki ess when thry elect Bob
Duncan on Nov. 6.
Mrs. Max Wimmcr
1115 West Second st.
Medford
Board Criticised
To the Editor: In answer to
the protest statements on Oct
OREGON
Foreign News: Some
Cuban Comments; Soviets Beef Up Fleet
" ........ e l 1 41.
By PHIL NEWSOM
UPI Foreign Newt Analyst
Notes from the foreign news
cables:
KhrushcheT Caution
There is no concrete sign
from Moscow that Soviet Pre
mier N 1 k 1 1 a Khrushchev's
leadership
in any danger
because ot his
dec! sion to
withdraw
Russian m 1 s
s i 1 e s from
Cuba. But cau
tion is one of
the first laws
of sell-preser-
Ne .iom vation in t h e
Communist world. And Ital
ian Communist boss Palmiro
Togliatti, one of the smartest
men in the international Com
munist movement, is exercis
ing that faculty rather well.
Togliatti does not seem to be
so sure that Khrushchev will
remain in power for long after
the Cuban setback, and has
the writer, although under
29 from Mrs. R. A. Pfiefer of
Shady Cove, and also the
statements of C. W. Abbott
as a member of Jackson coun
ty board of equalization on
Oct. 31.
I fully can sympathize with
Mrs. Pfiefer because I also
have appeared before the
board to explain the situa
tion we have from the Cheney
Stud Mill in Central Point.
This mill has caused enormous
devaluation of all the adjoin
ing properties. We get saw
dust fallout, soot, and have to
put up with their terribly
stinking pond, which any in
telligent person knows that
this condition would cause
devaluation of the properties
nearby. But we cannot get the
board to understand this. Most
anywhere else in the county
the value has gone up while
ours has decreased, year by
year.
Three years ago a petition
with 27 property owners pro
tested our valuation, but to
no avail.
Before elections politicians
promise to be public servants,
but just wait until after elec
tion, they become dictators
instead of public servants.
t just wish that the asses
sor's office would show to the
people their assessed valua
tion of their appraisials, of
the rich farm land part of
which are used for building
sites and the pear orchards,
the land owned by the power
company, and the Southern
Pacific Railroad.
This will eventually lead to
the situation we had in 1949,
when almost 900 people went
to the Jackson county court
house, to the assessor's office,
they also did protesting, and
the people maintained that
they were being dealt an un
fair deal, but you guessed it,
the assessors office were right,
El
Strictly Personal
By Sydney
to Field Enterprises. Inc.
WHAT'S A HE-MAN?
A reader in Texas has writ
ten me a note asking: "Why
do women belittle (at least,
my wife does! a man's at
tempt to take
the deep
-ii woods and be
j the he man
7 il s noi as sim-
, . :
pie a question
as it sounds,
nor is the an
swer a simple
one. Women
belittle men
Harris for different
reasons, good and bad: and
men want to take to the woods
for different reasons, good and
bad
What interests me. how
ever, is my correspondent's
Implicit assumption that the
one who takes to the deep
woods is necessarily a "he
man." He may or may not be
- but it Is in his daily life,
not in his forest flights, that
he reveals his manhood or
his boyhood.
...
In a book on "Courage"
that he wrote shortly after
the war. General Slim, who
commanded the Allied
forces in Burma, said that
his experience with soldiers
and civilians and refugees
had taught him that "moral
courage is much higher and
rarer than physical courage,
and that women and civil
ians often exhibit more
courage of this kind than
the bravest combatants."
What it takes to be a real
"he-man" in modern socie
ty is no longer the physical
intrepidity of the soldier or
frontiersman in the past.
What modern man is
rjrr9mr to
fS if'
kept remarkably silent on the
Issue.
The day after Khrushchev
agreed to the withdrawal,
Togliatti actually refused to
comment. The Italian Commu
nist party directorate praised
the whole Russian-Cuban deal.
But all Togliatti indulged
himself In then was to say:
"We are satisfied with the
solution of the Cuban crisis."
Togliatti finally commented
on Cuba by week's end in an
article in the party magazine
Rinascita. His words still were
guarded and his praise was
for the "Soviet Union" rather
than Khrushchev.
His guarded attitude is in
contrast to his belligerent
stand at the peak of the crisis
when he bombarded the Rome
government with personal
statements and parliamentary
interrogations. Those who
know Togliatti believe h i s
current cautiousness does not
necessarily indicate disapprov
al of the way things have
gone on Cuba. B u t rather
they consider it reflects his
feeling that Khrushchev's po
sition is weakened and that it
may be unwise to say "bravo"
to a man who might lose his
job.
Russian Submarines
Military sources in Tokyo
say the Russians have added
as many as a dozen subma
rines and a number of surface
vessels to their Far Eastern
fleet in recent weeks. The
reason: The Russians must
monitor their own rocket tests
in the Pacific and take on the
additional chore of spying
on the U. S. nuclear tests at
Johnston Island and the U. S.
antimissile missile develop
ment program at Eniwetok
Island.
French Elections
First unofficial predictions
of results of the Nov. 18 and
25 French parliamentary elec
tions are that the Communists
will be among the biggest
winners and President Charles
de Gaulle's Union for a New
Republic party will be the big
gest single loser. The guesses
are that the Communists will
gain in strength from their
present 10 to 70 seats, with
the radicals going from 37 to
about 65, the Popular Repub
licans from 57 to about 75,
and the socialists and inde
pendents making slight gains.
The UNR is expected to suffer
disastrous losses up to one
half of its present strength of
178 seats. There is extremely
heavy pressure being put on
De Gaulle to get him to help
avert this disaster. Betting is
that he will do so but in
and the people were wrong.
I don't blame Mrs. Pfiefer
for making the remarks that
she did. I ask anyone, just try
and go before the board of
equalization and you will
have an enemy in front, an
enemy In back, on the right
and left, and they are all
ready to attack, yet they all
promise to be servants of the
people. Can anyone tell me, is
this justice?
Frank Koch
412 South First si.
Central Point, Ore.
J. Harris
called upon lo be and do
requires moral courage of a
higher order, tenacity, pa
tience, a deep sense of re
sponsibility, and the will
ingness to endure boredom,
fatigue and tensions that
can be only occasionally re
lieved. The real he-man. it seems
lo me, is not the one who
takes to the woods (except,
perhaps, as a relaxing week
end off once in a while),
but the one who feels a
quiet and deep pride in tak
ing care of his family as a
man ought to.
...
Sitting home at night, read
ing a book, while the chil
dren are tucked in their beds,
it can be immensely gratify
ing to reflect that the whole
structure of their safety and
welfare depends upon one
man. his work, his reliability,
his responsibility, his refusal
to funk his obligations.
Being a man has little to do
with stalking deer In a woods
or shooting ducks In a blind:
these are pleasant vestiges of
boyhood, not tokens of man
hood But continuing to work
when you are tired, assuming
duties when you would rath
er loll, making sure that the
nest is safe and warm and that
the future holds promise of
continuity and growth - these
are the unrelenting demands
modern society makes upon
its grown men.
How well and how willing
ly we measure up to these
demands - unheroic in a dra
matic sense, but more d'"i
cult in many ways - is a more
accurate criterion for separat
ing the he-men from the he-boys.
Reds Hedging On
a discreet manner that will
not compromise his tradition -
Ultra-Rightists On
California Ballots
Sacramento - The Califor
nia election Tuesday, Nov. 6,
offers-in addition to the main
Nixon-Brown bout - a crucial
test of the political strength
of the far right.
Item: Extreme anti-Communists
are backing the so-called
Francis Amendment to the
California Constitution. Its
most controversial feature is
a provision that a Communist,
Communist front, or subver
sive organization is one so
judged "by an apnellate or
superior court, or by a grand
jury of any county in this
state, or by the Attorney Gen
eral of California, or by any
court, officer, board, commis
sion, agency or other body of
the Government of the United
States making such a finding
pursuant to the law."
Gov. Edmund G. Brown
and Richard M. Nixon both
have expressed vigorous oppo
sition to the proposed amend
ment. Opponents say it is
really a weapon to destroy
liberal, non-conformist organ
izations by threatening them
with the Communist brand.
Nixon even says that the John
Birch Society feels that "be
cause I do not support the
amendment I apparently am
soft on communism."
Washington Report
By William
(e United feature Syndicate
BY-PRODUCT
Washington An unex
pected but heartening by-product
of President Kennedy's
single - hand
e d action
against the So
v i e t missile
base in Cuba
has been little
noted but
should be long
remembered.
This is the
fact that our
White allies, wno
were given little consultation
before Mr. Kennedy went it
alone in this desperately need
ed step, have responded with
generous understanding.
Indeed, the Western alli
ance is actually more nearly
together than it was before
his unilateral ultimatum to
inter national communism.
And for this, one allied power,
Britain, deserves special
thanks.
BEFOREHAND, most of the
allies, led by the British,
had been infuriatingly calm,
and even a trifle superior,
about the problem of Castro
Cuba. They had all but invit
ed they had all but de
manded the isolation of the
United States in this somber
business. They had been un
willing even to give token
support to the earlier efforts
to cut off Cuban trade.
For this there were several
reasons, if no necessarily good
reasons. One was a persistent
inability in England to under
stand that Soviet missiles in
Cuba were part of a Soviet
design to blackmail the West,
all the way from the Carib
bean to Berlin, and so formed
a real and terrible threat to
all the West.
Another reason was that the
United States had spent a
good many years in loftily
lecturing Britain and other
European nations about their
own acute problems in areas
of more vital interest to them
than to us ex-colonial areas
in Africa and Asia.
...
TET another went back six
years, when Nasser's
Egypt, backed by the Soviet
Union Just as Castro Cuba
was later backed, cut Britain's
lifeline by theft of the Suez
canal. On that sad occasion,
we gave the British the cold
I
t 'I
eJ
w v-i -r ".-i
7s
"I know it's traditional ,
tor candidate to be photographed eoling for him-
al stana or Deing eoove ui
1 political strife.
Item: The far right hopes 1
elect three members of the)
John Birch Society to Con.
gress from its major strong,
hold in Los Angeles County.
Two are Republican incum.
bents seeking re-election: Rep.
John H. Rousselot of the 25th
Congressional District and
Rep. Edgar W. Hiestand, of the
27th. The third Birch mem
ber, H. L. Richardson, is run
ning on the G.O.P. ticket in
the newly created 29th Dis
trict. None is favored to win, but
of the three, Rousselot is said
to have the best chance. The
California election really
offers the first large-scale test
for the Birchers at the polls
inasmuch as the semi-secret
society's existence didn't come
to public knowledge until
1961.
One darling of the far right,
Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker,
an avowed Bircher, finished
sixth and last in May when ha
ran for the Democratic guber
natorial nomination in Texas.
With that handwriting un thai
wall, most California observ
ers are forecasting a day of
disaster for the far right on
Nov. 6.-Editorial Research Re
ports. S. White
est of comfort. And when the.
British, the French and the
Israelis in desperation invad
ed Egypt, to get Nasser's
hands off their throats, wet
refused to our allies any back
ing whatsoever. Instead, we)
actually joined the Russians
in condemning them in the
United Nations.
Against all this background,
British opinion was inclined
to let "the Yanks" stew in
their own pot of Cuban con
cern. There was also a general
feeling in England that, any
how, the United States was
"too excited about Cuba."
All this has now been swept
away, in the disclosure to all
the world that the Soviet Un
ion was in Cuba for far more
sinister purposes than merely
to threaten the southern Unit
ed States coast. But even be
fore this full disclosure the
British government in the
pinch came through, even
amid their annoyance at not
having been fully consulted in
this American enterprise
which, after all, involved the
risk of war to them, too.
qiHE fact is that Lord Home,
- the British foreign minis
ter, called in the Soviet am
bassador to London and told
him in words of chill plain
ness that Britain was stand
ing with the United States,
come what might. Later,
Prime Minister Macmillan
waved away all complaints
that Britain had not been
briefed at the take-off.
This, remembering that
Macmillan's government is
constantly yammered at any
how by left-wing neutralist
and anti-American critics, was
pretty decent. And it was
even more decent remember
ing that when the British for
their part set off on a uni
lateral action the Egyptian
invasion we gave them no
equivalent forgiveness. We
only gave them stones in the
UN.
What the British tried to
prove in 1956 was that no
nation should leave its very
life to the mercies solely of
"world opinion." But their
biggest ally, the United States,
would not come forward. We
have now proved it, as to
Cuba, because we had the
iron and incomparable power
of the American military es
tablishment. -1
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but it is kind of immodest