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THURSDAY, OCTOBER 18. 1962
MEDKORD MAIL TRIBUNE. MEDFORD. OREGON
Celebrezze Prepared to Fight for Federal Aid to Public Schools
By LOUIS CASSELS , Hp said hi- expects the ad and high schools in the next any chance of getting such , less he may be able lo pay for . Cleveland three years later, j sudden transition from city -
United Press International ministration to renew its fight session of Congress.
"Washington 1UPI1 Anthony for aid to public elementary Q. Do you think there is
J. Celebrezze, ine new secre
tary of health, education and
welfare, is prepared lo fight
for federal aid to public
schools. But he can sec no
constitutional way to include
parochial schools in the pro.
gram.
The former mayor of Cleve
land, in an interview with
United Press International,
fpelled out for the first time
his stand on the controver
sial issue of aid to parochial
schools, which has brought
President Kennedy into sharp
conflict with Roman Catholic
bishops.
Celebrezze, like Kennedy,
is a member of the Catholic
church. When he was appoint
ed to the Cabinet last July
to succeed Abraham A. Ribi
coff, there was speculation
that he might work for a
change in the administration
position on parochial school
aid.
Supreme Court Speaks
But Celebrezze said that he
is convinced, after a close
study of the whole question,
that "the Supreme Court has
spoken quite clearly."
"Aid to private elementary
and high schools is unconsti
tutional," he said. "The court
has made that clear, and wc
have no alternative but lo
follow its rulings." But he
said the Supreme Court has
not ruled out the use of tax
funds to aid private institu
tions of higher education, and
there arc many long-standing
federal programs which pro
vide a precedent for such Did.
An administration - backed
bill to aid both public and
private colleges was rejected
by the House Inst month aft
er opponents protested against
the inclusion of church re
lated institutions.
Celebrezze said it was un
. fortunate that the religious
issue was raised against the
higher education bill, and
that he is hopeful the legisla
tion will eventually be passed.
Have to do Something
"We have to do something
for higher education soon,"
he said. "The nation has a
critical need for expanded fa
cilities In our colleges and
universities."
i P i ii n 4
'Great Imposter'
Finds Self in Role
Of Plain John Doe
Sacramento -WPP - Ferdi
nand Waldo DcMara, the
'Great Impostrr," found him
self in a new role today: that
of plain John Hoe.
Rut it's not a part that
came easily. Without an as
sist from the law, he might
never have marie it.
DeMnra, a tall and portly
man of 40, bus posed in a va
riety of roles, including that
of a navy ship's surgeon, a
deputy prison warden, a
Moscow-IL'PII-Thi. Soviet 17n. learned zoologist and a Trap-
ion launched an artificial pist monk. His exploits were
Russia Launches
Cosmos Satellite
PREPARED TO FIGHT Former Cleveland Mayor Anthony
J. Celebrezze, President Kennedy's new Secretary of Health,
Education and Welfare, says he is prepared lo fight for
Kennedy's program of federal aid lo public schools, but sees
no constitutional way lo aid Catholic schools. A Catholic
himself, Celebrezze said in an interview: "The Supreme
Court has spoken quite clearly" on the issue of parochial
school grants. (UPI)
satellite Wednesday, Cosmos
10, in a continuing series of
probes of the cosmos, the offi
cial news agency Tass report
ed. Its path ranges from 235
miles lo 120 miles from the
earth's surface, Tass said.
The instruments aboard
Cosmos 10 "will continue the
exploration of outer space in
conformity with the program"
announced by Tass March lti.
The Cosmos 10 radio trans
mits on the lfl.nil.1 megacycle
frequency, Tass said, and data
gathered during the orbits is
sent to a Soviet receiving sta
tion. The equipment is function
ing properly, Tass said, and
the rarth hound computers
are receiving and processing
Cosmos 10 data.
Tass said Cosmos 10 is cir
cling the earth every 110 2
minutes at an angle of (15 de
grees to tile equator
so extraordinary that they in
spired a book entitled "The
Great Impostcr," which later
became a movie.
Last year he arrived al the
New Life Youth Ranch, a
home for boys run by a religi
ous organization anom
miles east of here in the Si
erra. In April, lie became the
ranch supervisor.
Aski State's Advice
DcMara, who says he has
now "gone straight," became
Involved with the law two
months later when he wrote
a letter to the California At
torney General's office.
"May the peace of the Lord
Jesus Christ he with you al
ways! ! !" it began, "the un-
an opinion on the following J following Long Service
matter:" I L. L. Rentz. 1025 Sunset
In essence, he wanted to i dr., Medfoi d, has retired fol
know if the camp needed a i lowing 42 years of service
license from the Stale Depart-1 willi the Nationul Cash Reg
nient of Social Welfare. ! islcr company. He has spent
drawing national attention.
Jack R. Winkler, district at
torney of El Dorado county,
where the camp is situated,
became edgy.
Plagued by dozens of. calls
and by the fact thai the law
itself is not absolutely clear
on the point, Winkler wond
ered if DcMara and his em
ployees should be prosecuted
for operating the camp with
out a license while the under
age boys were there. To get
an answer he conferred Tues
day with Rudolf H. Michaels,
attorney for the Welfare De
partment, and Richard L.
Mayers, deputy slate attorney
general.
No Special Treatment
The three men agreed that
DcMara had done his part lo
avoid breaking the law, that
he had acted quickly after
learning that he was breaking
it, and that there would be no
thought of prosecution if he
were an ordinary man.
'We should look at this as
if he were John Doe down the
pike and not Ferdinand Dc
Mara, eon man extraordin
ary, said Michaels as the
group agreed not to prosecute.
Mcdford Man Retires
PROMOTED
Byron W. Cordes of Rogue
River has been promoted lo
airman first class in the U S.
Air Force while serving with
the 7375th combat supporl
group at Sculthorpe Royal
Air Force station In England
Cordes, the son of Mr. and
Mrs. Williiim D. Newell.
Rogue River, Is an alreralt
instrument repairman.
After a lengthy investiga
tion, the department conclud
ed that it did need a license
if its iiimales included boys
under Hi. DcMara learned
this Oct. !) and Immediately
removed Tour of six hoys who
were under the age limit. The
other underage boys remained
the past 21 years In Meriford.
which is a branch of the Chi
co. Calif., office of I lie firm.
Rentz, a serviceman and
salesman, started as a memoer
of the company in 1020. later
attending repiiir school. He
has worked in F.lmira, N. Y.,
New Yolk City, Boise, Idaho.
on a technicality, but one of Stockton, Santa Barbara, and
them has since left. San Diego area. In I03H he be
lly this time, however, the j came senior salesman in Chi
case had become public and.cn where he remaind for
IVMara's past was once more I for three years.
any chance of getting such
legislation enacted without
some settlement of the re
ligious controversy over in
clusion of parochial schools?
A. I think it will be passed
eventually. I think we die
making some headway on this,
and that it will come in time.
Lacks Rapier Wit
Celebrezze speaks slowly
and deliberately, in a low,
rumbling bass voice. He lacks
the rapier wit of his predeces
sor, Abe Ribicoff, who left
the Cabinet lo run for the
Senate in Connecticut. You
could count on Ribicoff for a
sharp quote every second sen
tence. But Celebrezze's dis
course tends to plod unim
aginatively from subject to
predicate, with no breath
wasted on fine phrases.
Massive sincerity is the
first thing a visitor notices
about him, and it is a trait
that may stand him in good
stead when he goes to the
Capitol to plead for the bills
that Ribicoff was unable to
push through. Congressmen
are notoriously distructful of
Cabinet officers who are wit
ty enough to make them look
foolish.
Celebrezze was born .91
years ago in Anzi, Italy,
where his naturalized Ameri
can parents had returned for
a visit. He is the first Amer
ican of Italian descent to
serve in the Cabinet. The
White House evidently re
gards this circumstance as a
political asset. It has booked
Celebrezze for a cross-country
speaking tour between
now and election day that will
take him into virtually every
major U.S. city with a large
Italian population. That Halo
Atnericans are proud of their
new representative in the Cab
inet is plain from the fact
that Celebrezze received more
than 250 invitations to deliv
er Columbus day addresses. I
Sorves A Mayor
When he came to Washing
ton, after serving nine scan- j
dal-free years as Mayor of
Cleveland, Celebrezze was
billed as a conservative Dem
ocrat, some yards to the right
of this fellow New Frontiers
men. There was talk that he
might have a hard lime swal
lowing some of the admin
istration's legislative propo
sals, such as the hotly-disputed
plan to provide medi
cal care for the aged through
Social Security.
After three months in Ihe
HEW department, Celebrezze
has become as strong an ad
vocate of "medicare" as Ribi
coff. But his reasons for sup
porting the program demon
strate that he's still a con
servative at heart.
"I'm for the Social Securi
ty approach," he said, "he-,
cause I think it's good fiscal
policy for people lo provide .
for their health care in old
age while they're able lo
work.
"The administration plan Is
based on the same concept
as insurance. People would
pay Social Security taxes
during their earning years,
and would , be covered with
health Insurance after they
retire.
Much Sounder
"That is much sounder - -much
more conservative, in
my opinion - - than proposals
for the government to finance
health care lor the aged out
of general tax funds. I rion'l
think we can afford lo do
that on anything like an ade
quate scale."
Q. Opponents charge that
Ihe medicare plan would lead
to "socialized medicine" . . .
A. That's nonsense. The
government wouldn't have a
thing lo say about the pa
tient's choice of a physician
or hospital, or about the
course of treatment
Q. Why can't private health
insurance do the job''
A. Because the insurance
rates aren't fixed. The older
a person gels, the more he
needs the insurance, and the
it, But that's just when the and during his long tenure at
premiums become the high- city nan won d nil- lm
est. And they can cancel the utation as an honest and clecl
policy on him after his bene- icated public servant,
fits run out Just at the The new secretary is a big,
time he needs coverage heavy-set man, with thinning
mos( black hair, enormous black
eyebrows, and a grey-flecked
Deep-Scaled Sympathy moustache. During the inter-
In Celebrezze's approach to view, in his capacious office
welfare programs, a .basic j on the fifth floor of Ihe
conservatism of temperament j Health, Education and Wel
is offset by a deep-seated sym-1 fare building on Independence
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pathy for poor people. The
ninth child in a jamny oi li,
he grew up in one of t h e
worst slums of Cleveland. He
hawked newspapers on street
corners and worked on rail
road section gangs to help
support his family. After grad
uating from a public high
school, he worked his way
through John Carroll univer
sity, and later got a law de
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versity.
avenue, he sat straight up in
his desk chair, his right hand
in his trousers pocket. He has
a characteristic gesture of
lapping the side of his face
with the forefinger of his left
hand when he is concentrat
ing on a question.
Laughed Only Once
Although he is extremely
polite and friendly, he is not
given lo easy small-talk with
visitors. He laughed only once
After Navy service jn ! during an hour-long interview,
World War II, and a stint of
private law practice, he went
into politics in 1950, getting
elected lo the state senate.
He was elected mayor of
and that was in response to a
broad; almost desperate, at
tempt to' levity on the part
of his visitor."
Q. How do you find the
hall to Cabinet?
A. I find this job a terrific
challenge. Everything you do
affects so many lives. The
thing I miss most is the close
ness to the people which I
had as mayor. I used to en
joy walking down the street
and talking to people, asking
them about their problems.
Here I don't get much chance
to talk to people except in
a formal way, at staff con
ferences and things like that.
The Secretary and Mrs.
Celebrezze her name is
Ann have settled into a
house in the Chevy Chase
section of Washington. Two
of their three children are in
college, and their youngest
daughter is a freshman at
Stone Ridge, an exclusive
Catholic girls school hcrc.-
Plungcd into the incredibly
complex affairs of one of the
government's largest depart
ments, just at budget-preparation
time, Celebrezze has had
little time for the Washington
social circuit or for any ac
tivities except work.
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