Khrushchev Has No Doubt That Small
Nations Will Be In Communist Orbit
! Editor"! note: Following Is the
second of three dispatches by Wal
ter Llpproann, New York Herald
Tribune syndicated columnist whose
articles regularly appear In the
Mail Tribune. Lippmann recently
had an interview with Soviet Pre
mier Nikita Khrushchev.
J:By WALTER LiPPMASN
i In this article I shall put
together those parts of the
jSalk which dealt with the
revolutionary mov ements
among small nations. Khru
shchev spoke specifically of
Jhree of them - Laos, Cuba,
and Iran. But for him these
three are merely examples of
Jvhat he regards as a world
wide and historic revolution
ary movement - akin to the
change from feudalism to
fcapitalism-whieh is surely
flestined to bring the old co
lonial countries into the Com
munist orbit. I could detect
fio doubt or reservation in his
mind that this will surely hap
pen, that there is no alterna
tive, that while he will help
this manifest destiny and
jjvhile we will oppose it, the
jdestiny would be realized, no
matter what either of us did.
5 Speaking of Iran, which he
did without my raising the
subject, he said that Iran had
a very weak Communistparty
but that nevertheless .the mis
ery of the masses and the cor
ruption of the government
was surely producing a revo
Jution. "You will assert," he
said, "that the Shah has been
overthrown by the Commu
nists, and we shall be. very
glad to have it thought in the
world that ail the progressive
people in Iran recognize that
we are the leaders of the
progress of mankind."
To Us Propaganda
Judging by the genera!
tenor of what he said about
ran, it would be fair to con
clude that he is not contem
plating -military intervention
Snd occupation - "Iran is a
poor country which is of no
use to the Soviet Union"-but
that he will do all he can by
propaganda and indirect inter
vention to bring down the
Shah.
; In his mind, Iran is the
most immediate example of
jthe inevitable movement of
history in which he believes
So completely. He would not
admit that we can divert this
historic movement by cham
pioning liberal democratic
Reforms. Nothing that any of
us can say can change his
mind, which is that of a true
believer, except a demonstra
tion in some country that we
jean promote deep democratic
reiorms.
s His attitude towards Cuba
js based on this same, dogma.
' If you care about surveys and statistics and that sort of thing, you probably should
! know that more people in the West drink their coffee black than in any other
' area. Which is not so surprising, maybe. But more drink it biack in restaurants
than they do at home. Which ought to prove a point or two about restaurant
' coffee, the cream and sugar being handy and free and all. When the cupful is on
; its own like that nothing to dilute or divert the flavor it has to be good coffee,
! Which is what we've been saying about restaurant coffee for years; what we've
; been saying about Boyd's, anyway. Which, in the Northwest, is the same thing.
Four thousand restaurants prove it they serve a million cups of Boyd's every day.
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OH, GO AHEAD AND
Castro's revolution is inevita
ble and pre-determined. It
was not made by the Soviet
Union but by the history of
Cuba, and the Soviet Union
is involved because Castro ap
pealed for . economic help
when the United States tried
to strangle the revolution
with an embargo.
He said flatly, but not ii
thought with much passion,!
that we were preparing a
landing in Cuba, a landing
not with American troops but
with Cubans armed and sup
ported by the United States.
He said that if this happened,
the Soviet Union would op
pose" the United States.
I hope I was not misled in
understanding him to mean
that he would oppose us by
propaganda and diplomacy,
and that he did not have in
mind military intervention. I
would in fact go a bit fur
ther, based not on what he
said but on the general tone
of his remarks, that in his
book it is normal for a great
power to undermine an un
friendly government' within
its own sphere of interest. He
has been doing this himself
in Laos and Iran and his feel
ing about the American sup
port of subversion in Cuba is
altogether different m quality
from his feeling about the
encouragement of resistance
in the satellite states of Eu
rope. Khrushchev thinks
much more like Richelieu and
Metternich than like Wood-
row Wilson.1
Overall Impression
l had an overall impres
sion that his primary interest
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Medf ord, was named the only
appointive member of the
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in Salem last week end.
Dr. Thompson was elevated
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Delegates at the convention
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members are elected during
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USE CREAM AND SUGAR
is not in the cold war about;
the smalt and underdevelop-i
ed countries. The support of;
of the revolutionary move
ment among these countries
is if or him an interesting,
hopeful, agreeable opportuni
ty, but it is not a vital inter
est in the sense that he would
go to war about it. He is quite
sure that he will win this cold
war without military force
because he is on the side of
history, and because he has
the military power to deter us
from a serious military inter
vention. His primary concern is
with the strong countries,
especially with the United
States, Germany, and China,
I could not ask him direct
Questions about China, But
Appling Seen in
Move To Become
GOP Shining Star
Beaverton - (BPS r- An Ore
gon Democratic party official
implied Monday that Secre
tary of State Howell Appling's
differences with Gov. Mark
Hatfield over government re
organization mark "the begin
ning of an Appling campaign
to replace Hatfield as the Re
publican party's star attrac
tion." -',
Blaine Whipple, Democratic
executive secretary, told the
Washington County Public
Affairs forum that govern
ment reorganization "will not
be realized" in the 1881 leg
islature, Whipple blamed Re
publicans, even though the
state's number one Republi
can - Hatfield - recommended
the plan.
Hope Said Los:
Whipple said "any hope'
for reorganization this year
was lost last week when the
Senate defeated Hatfield's
five-bill package to create a
state natural resources de
partment.
Whipple said "some Salem
observers" see a "smoldering
feud in the making between
the conservative Appling ana
the more liberal Hatfield,
They also note the effective
and continuing lobbying job
Appling is doing with GOP
legislators , .
Appling has said he and
Hatfield differ sharply on
only one point of reorgani
zation - the State Board of
Control. Appling favors its
retention and , Hatfield pro
posed doing away with it.
MEDFOBD MAIL TBIBONE, MEDFOBD, OSESOS
there is no doubt that in his
calculations of world power,
China is a major factor. I felt
that he thought of China as
a problem of the future, and
that may be one of the rea
sons why for him the immedi
ate and passionate questions
have to do with Germany and
disarmament. In my nest
article, I shall deal with what
he had to say about Germany,
which he discussed" at some
length.
For the present I should
add a few miscellaneous im
pressions. During our walk
after lunch, Mikoyan being
with us then, I tried to find
out what they thought of
President Kennedy's purpose
to bring the American econ
omy not only out of the cur
rent recession but out of its
chronic sluggishness. For
quite evidently, much of his
buoyant confidence m the hss-;
torie destiny of the Soviet Un-j
ion is based on the undoubted j
material progress of Soviet j
industry - as compared with !
our slow rate of growth.
Cannot Succeed
I had put the question to I
Mikoyan, assuming that he
was the economic expert, but
he deferred at once to Khru
shchev; To Khrushchev it was
certain that President Ken
nedy cannot succeed In ac
celerating American economic
growth. He had, he told me,
explained that to Mrs. Roose
velt when he was m New
York during the American
election. Why can't President
Kennedy succeed? Because,
he said, of "Rockefeller," and
then added; "DuPoiu." They
will not let him. This was, it
appears, one of those remarks
that cannot be doubted by any
sane man.
Hone of this, however, was
said with any personal animus
against President Kennedy.
Rather it was said as one
might speak of the seasons
and the tides and about mor
tality, about natural events
which man does not control.
While. he has no confidence
in the New Frontier, he has
obvious respect for the Presi
dent personally, though he
confessed he could hardly un
derstand how any man who
had not been in a big gov
ernment for a long time
could suddenly become the
head of it. Moreover, as I
shall report in talking about
the German question, it is
clear, I think, that he looks
forward to another round of
international negotiations be
fore he precipitates . a crisis
over Berlin.
Copyright 1961, Saw York
Herald Tribune Inc.
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Whooping Cranes
Head for Canada
Washington - P - The
world's last known flock of
whooping cranes is on the:
wing, heading for summer :
nesting grounds in northern
Canada.
The Interior Department's
Fish and Wildlife Service has
reported that an aerial census
revealed only three erases In
adult plumage, remained on
Matagorda Island, near the
Arkansas Jfatkmai Wildlife
Refuge in Texas. None was
on Aransas, During the win
ter 36 cranes were counted at
Aransas and Matagorda. Six
of them were youngsters.
The department said the
whooping crane population
sow is at record high since
systematic counts of the big,
ungainly birds began in 1838,
when they were near extinction.
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Courtesy is particularly im
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Mediord cuy police cleared ,
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during March, aecerdsjsg to;
Police Chief Charles P.
Champlin's monthly report
Included among last month's
major crimes were one rape,
17 larcenies and six auto
thefts. Polke cleared the rape,
33 si the larcenies, sad three
of the auto thefts.
The percentage si cases
cleared last ssonth compares
favorably with the percentage
of the same month in i860,
when 28 sat ef a reported 182
cases were cleared for only a
1S.8 per cent cleared average.
Counting both mlseellan-
eeus and major offenses, po
lice Investigated a total of 885
crimes last month, and solved
538 of then-,.
Seventy traffic accidents re
sulting la 15 injuries and so
fatalities were reported to po
lice during March, an increase
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when 58 accidents resulting
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