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THURSDAY, MARCH 30. 1961
MEDFORD MAIL TRIBUNE. MEDFORD. ORE.
Oregon Delegation Undecided on Aid
To Education Bill: Durno Waiting
By YVONNE FRANKLIN
Mall Tribune
Washington Bureau
Washington (Special) - Con
gressional mailmen are stag
gering under the mounting
stacks of voter
sentiment o n
the aid to edu
cation bill
and opinion
in the Oregon
delegation i s
as divided as
that of the
cons tituents
who write
rr.im.in The mail in
most offices Is heaviest on
whether or not private elc
mentary and secondary
schools should receive federal
loans.
Rep. Walter Norblad says
that his mail is heavier on
this issue than any which he
has seen during his 16 years
in Congress. He was the lone
Oregonian to take a position
against the $2.3 billion school
construction bill. He has re
ceived about 500 letters, 98
per cent of which he said
favored aid to parochial
schools.
Reps. Edith Green and Al
Ullman have not made up
their minds about whether or
not to support a separate bill
providing loans to private
schools. Both are against
loan provision in the general
construction bill.
Sen. Maurine N e u berger
would not take a position on
whether or not private schools
should receive loans.
"I am not prepared to say
yet; I don't know what form
the bill will take," Mrs. Neu
berger said. "The reason I
am hesitant is that I support
a much more liberal form of
aid to education." She con
tinued: "If we allow allocations of
money to go to the States to
be distributed according to the
laws of those States; then the
States could decide if they
want to give free textbooks to
all children regardless of the
school they attend.
"The people of the States
have closest control over edu
cation. When people talk
about federal control, this is
the answer. You don't have
federal control if you allow
States to use the money as
they see fit."
States To Decide
: The bill as now drawn al
lows the States to decide
whether to spend their share
of federal money for construc
tion of buildings or teachers'
salaries in the public schools.
. Sen, Wayne Morris supports
a separate bill granting loans
to private schools. He wants
no amendment to the general
bill, and has been outspoken
in his criticism of the position
taken by the Catholic church
which opposes federal aid to
public schools if parochial
schools are not Included.
Rep. Edwin Durno was In
Oregon, however his adminis
trative assistant, Robert Park
man, said that Durno had not
made up his mind on aid to
private schools, and would not
until the Congress was pre
sented with the bill which
they were to vole on.
"You can't tell what the
committee is going to do,"
Parkman said, "and you don't
know what will be offered in
the way of amendments."
On aid to schools, general
ly, Parkman said that "Durno
is against any aid which will
lead to federal control of edu
cation, and he will have to
analyze what the Education
committee suggests, with this
In mind."
Durno's Mail Heavy
Parkman said that Durno's
mail has been very heavy,
running 60 per cent to 40 per
cent In favor of aid to par
ochial schools. Much of the
mail Is coming from the Port
land area he said. Some of It
is similar In phraseology. They
have received mimeographed
Instruction sheets which the
person has simply signed
rather than writing a letter,
which he sold Indicates a great
effort Is being made to urge
people to write. He noted
that this was equally true on
the part of those who write
in opposition to aid to private
schools.
Ullman says he has been
receiving much mall from the
Portland, Snlcm and Eugene
area urging his support of aid
to private schools. Much of
his mall, he said, is well
thought out. Individually writ
ten letters, both pro and con.
Mrs. Green said that her
mail was about evenly divided
pro and con. Some of the
mail was "Inspired" on both
sides.
Believed Violation
She snid that she has al
ways opposed grants (free
gifts) to private elementary
and secondary schools, "he
cause I think it Is a violation
of the Constitution.
"I have not made up my
mind on , the question of
loans," she continued. "We do
not have the clear constitu
tional guidllncs in this area,
and I think there must be a
court test on this. I havi briefs
on my desk from lawyers
whom we must respect ui
constitutional lawyers, who
take opposing positions. Even
the decisions of the courts on
released time, bus transporta
tion, etc., have not been unani
mous on this question
"Therefore, it isn't very inv
pressive to me to have a per
son write in and be extreme
in his views and be absolutely
positive on the constitutional
question, because I don't think
we have the absolute answer,
Mrs. Green expressed con
cern that loans to private
schools might open the door
to so many sectarian schools
seeking federal money that
the public school system
might be undermined
"This would be my primary
reason for opposition," she
said. This nation has been
dedicated to the principle that
Democracy rests and depends
on the education of the mass
es, and a pood, sound nation
wide public school system. If
you start giving funds to all
private schools, there will he
an Increase in Drivate schools,
and I am much concerned "s
to what it will do to our pub
lic education."
Foresees No Danger
Ullman said he does not
foresee any danger of this if
loans are made to private
school systems. Mrs. Green
continued, "I am not ready to
say that I will oppose it (loans)
to private schools on constitu
tional grounds, because of the
conflicting legal opinions on
this."
"I hope that we can pass
the administration's bill, and
later on consider a separate
bill which would have the
loans and debate this issue,"
she concluded.
Neuberger, Ullman and
Morse agree with her on this.
They are not happy that the
religious issue has clouded the
school construction bill. Ull
man said they are fearful that
those who oppose an aid to
education bill may Include the
amendments, which will as
sure its defeat.
They also support the bill
to provide $1.5 billion of loans
over five years to construct
academic facilities at both
public and private universities
plus scholarships.
Bill Not Studied
Norblad said that he had
not studied Mrs. Green's bill
for aid to colleges and would
withhold Judgment until the
bill is before Congress. Mrs
Green said that her bill would
probably come before Con
gress first, and then the gen
eral construction bill for ele
mentary and secondary
schools. Norblad said:
"I think the local school
districts in Oregon have been
doing an excellent job. They
have constructed in all corners
of our State, and I think they
will continue to do a good job.
think the Federal Govern
ment should keep out of grade
schools and high schools. We
ought to worry more about
some of our tremendous prob
lems of defense and our na
tional debt, and let the local
people take care, of the
schools." '
Mrs. Neuberger d i s agreed
with Norblad. "I don't think
this is the way to look at it,"
she said. "It is important to
our defense to have young
people adequately trained and
educated. Admiral Rickover
says we now have great dif
ficulty getting as many train
ed scientists and technicians
as we need.
Sink or Swim
"Maybe Oregon is taking
care of its school needs, but I
like to look at this thing
nationally. We will sink or
Bills Approved
By Legislature
Salem - (UPD - Measures ap
proved Wednesday:
By the Senate
SB81-Vagrancy.
SB90-Bawdy houses.
SB206 - "Little Landrum
Griffin" bill.
SB35'4 - House trailers.
SB382 - Rural fire protec
tion district elections.
SB477 - Charitable contri
butions by corporations.
By the House
HB2028, 2070, 2081, 2101,
2102, 2108, budgets for board
of control, Including Dam
masch hospital MacLaren, cor
rectional institution.
HB2094 - Forest products
harvest tax.
HB1301 - Forest research,
HB1302 - Tax on forest
products.
HB1004 - Refuse dumps.
SB148 - Deputy state veter
inarians.
SB 194 - Log patrol.
SB313 -- Commercial fish
licenses.
SB337 - Monuments on rlv-
erbanks.
SB170 - Loans.
SB86 - Income taxes.
SB106 - Personal Income
taxes.
SB390 - Abolition of hyro-
electric commission.
SB 133 - Bees.
SB172 - Motorists' service
firms.
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swim on our educational qual
ity. All that Norblad would
have to do is go into a few of
these poorer states to see
whether the need is being met
"Depressed areas and un
employment is a national, not
just a State problem. Just be
cause one State Is rich and
another is economically de
pressed and has unemploy
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have a good situation in our
country.
"The rich States suffer from
the degeneration and unem
ployment in another State be
cause it drags down the whole
national picture. It is the
same with education
concluded.
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New York - IUPII - Variety
stores accounted for 24.5 per
cent of the national toy mar
ket in 1960, making them the
nation's largest toy outlet, ac
cording to Variety Store Med
chandiser. :
Independent d e p a rtment
stores sold 23 per cent, chain
department stores 14 per. cent,
toy stores 7 per cent, discount
and mail order houses 17.5
per cent, auto supply stores 5
per cent, drug and hardware
stores 4 per cent each and
food stores 1 per cent.
Legislative Tempo Increases; Bills Move to Senators
" j -,. , r nm sure that Swinne;
By L. W. NEWBHY
State Senator from
Jackson County
During the last two weeks
the legislative tempo has In
creased tremendously. Al
though the committee work
has been at a high plane since
the legislature opened, the
hearings are completed on the
most important pieces of legis
lation in each house, and the
bills are starting to come to
the floor for final passage.
Tension is mounting and pa
tience is beginning to dwin
dle. The Senate has passed vir
tually all of the so-called
"housekeeping" measures.
Teen-Age Charge Plan
Meeting With Success
Tulsa, Okla.-IUPII -A Tulsa
department store reports "real
success" with a program
which allows charge accounts
for teenagers without parents
as co-signers.
"We limit them to $30 and
try to impress them with the
importance of good credit."
said credit manager Bill
Vance of Froug's Department
Store. This country's economy
is being built on credit and
you must teach children to use
credit . , . and use it wisely."
HEAT NEEDED
Chicago-The nation's green
houses - about 15,000 of them
-require 50 to 15,000 tons of
coal each growing season.
(Those which facilitate the ad
ministration of present laws).
It has also acted on some of
the extremely important new
legislation, bills to control
water and air pollution, the
reorganization bills having to
do with the department of
"commerce" and department
of "revenue" and the extreme
ly controversial "three way
bill."
There are many other Sen
ate bills which have not come
to the floor as yet and most
of the major House bills are
just getting into committee.
President Boivin and Speaker
Duncan are setting their tar
get for adjournment on April
20. I hope that we can ac
complish this but it will re
quire a tremendous amount of
work.
Busy Week
Last week was an extreme
ly busy one for me. In addition
to the usual duties of attend
ing the sessions and partici
pating in the debate and func
tioning in the committees, I
appeared at a hearing of the
joint ways and means commit
tee Monday night to get agri
cultural research funds rein
stated in the budget (a portion
of which will be devoted to
pear decline studies), had a
conference with Governor
Hatfield concerning pending
loeislation and appeared on
the television program "View
Point" in Portland on a dis
cussion of the three way bill.
I was also privileged last
week to have as my "legisla
tive intern" Richard Swinney
of Medford who is a senior at
Southern Oregon college. Dick
sat with me on the floor of
the Senate, accompanied me
to the various committees and j
participated in the activities!
of the Senate wherever pos-;
sible for the entire week. This j
was made possible through the ;
political science department of i
SOC. j
I believe this to be an ex
tremely valuable program and I
I am sure that Swinney now
has an accurate and intimate,
knowledge of the workings of
the legislature.
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