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DURING DEBATE Candidatcj for president Sen. John
Kennedy, left, and Vice President Richard Nixon are
ihown during their radio and television debate at Chicago
Monday night. In center Is Howard K. Smith, moderator.
(UPI Telephoto)
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'THE GREAT DEBATE' Presidential candidates Sen. John
F. Kennedy, top photos, Democrat, and Vice President Rich
ard M. Nixon, Republican, are shown ia various facial close
ups during their first nationally televised series of "Great
Debates." (UPI Telephoto)
GOP Chairman Against Taking
Campaign Funds From Teamsters
Seattle OIPli Tha national
chairman of the Republican
Party aald today the GOP
should not accept any cam
paign funds from the Team
sters Union.
Sen, Thruston Morton, (R
ky.), said the Teamsters had
not yet offered the Republi
cans any campaign funds
"but if Jimmy Hoffa (Team
stcrs president) docs, It
should be turned down."
Morton held a morning
press conference shortly be
fore he left by plane for Ore
gon, where he planned ap
pearances at Portland and
Pendleton.
Speaking on . tha Nixon
Kennedy debate, Morton iMd
he felt that the vice president
"had more facts than Sen.
Kennedy."
"There are those who have
made up their minds rnd
won't be swayed by this tyoe
)f debate," he said, "but the
debate is a good thing for
those who haven't reached
any conclusions on who they
want for president."
State Traffic Toll
Nears Record Mark
Salem-IUPD-Vern Hill. Ore
gon motor vehicles director,
said today that the state's
I960 traffic death toll Is now
running only 10 per cent be
low that of 1050-Oregon's
worst year for traffic fatali
ties. Through noon Monday, 53
persons died In accidents for
the month, three more than
nil of September, 1959.
Up until now this year's toll
has remained as low as 20 per
cent below that of last year,
Hill said.
Nixon-Kennedy Debate
Candidates Agree
Internal Affairs
Influence World
(Continued From Page 1)
Kennedy was the first speak
er and departed immediately
from the pre-arranged topic
because "the question this
year Is whether the world can
exist half slave, half free."
"I think it will depend In
great measure upon what we
do in the United States, on
the kind of society we build,
on the kind of strength we
maintain," he said.
Kennedy said the question
before the American people
was whether the nation was
doing enough to meet the
world's problems and if it was
as strong as it should be.
'I should make it very
clear that I do not think we
are doing enough, that I am
not satisfied as an American
with the progress we are mak
ing, ' he said.
Kennedy called for more
effective government action in
the face of lagging steel pro
duction and "the lowest eco
nomic growth of any major
Industrialized society."
Nixon agreed "we cannot
discuss our Internal affairs in
the United Stntcs without rec
ognizing that they have a tre
mendous bearing on our Inter
national position" and that the
nation must keep moving to
meet the competition from the
Communists In Russia and
China.
But he rejected any Idea
the United States has been
standing still.
Makit Comparisons
Comparing the country's
achievements under Eisenhow
er with those of Truman and
Franklin D. Roosevelt, Nixon
said:
"We have built more
schools in this 7Vi years, than
in the previous 20 years."
"We have developed more
hydroelectric power in this
7'4 years than was developed
In any previous administration
in history."
"We find more hospitals
have been built in this admin
istration than In the previous
administration. The same Is
true of highways."
The gross national prod
uct under Truman increased
11 per cent In 7 years, under
Eisenhower 19 per cent in 7
years.
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Wages went up five times
as much under Eisenhower as
they did undtr Truman, while
prices climbed five times as
much in the Truman adminis
tration as they did in the Eis
enhower administration.
Following the general open
ing statements by the Republi
can and Democratic nominees,
a panel of four TV newsmen
questioned the candidates,
Says Farm Policy Failad
On the farm issue, Kennedy
said present farm policy has
failed and the only plan that
will work is to bring supply
and demand into balance. He
maintained that farmers are
unable to control their mar
kets and that if the govern
ment withdrew its support
"we would have complete eco
nomic chaos."
Nixon replied that Ken
nedy's suggestion would in
volve more government con
trols, "a suggestion that
would also mean raising
prices that consumers pay for
products and imposing upon
the farmers controls on acre
age even far more than they
have today. It hasn't worked
in the past and I don't think
it will work in the future."
The debate warmed up
when the candidates exchang
ed views on social welfare
programs such as medical
care, school aid and resource
development.
Kennedy, said his programs
were "fiscially sound" but
Nixon retorted that the sena
tor's plans probably would
result in raised taxes.
The Democratic nominee
said his medical care for the
aged plan would be placed
under Social Security, while
Nixon's program if adopted
fully would cost $600 million
yearly by the federal govern
ment and a like amount by
the states.
Kennedy assailed "tight
money policies" which he said
have slowed down the nation's
economy and contributed to
two recessions."
Difl.r on Aid
Kennedy said he favored
federal aid to education and
federal aid for teachers' sal
ariv because "there is no
gretuer return to an economy
or to a society than an educa
tion system second to none."
Nixon also favored federal
aid for school construction but
said the federal government
shouldn t tamper with teach
ers' salaries because of the
risk of the government "tell
ing our teachers what to
leach."
Nixon chlded Kennedy for
not getting Democratic legis
lation through the post-convention
session of Congress,
despite heavy Democratic ma
jorities in both houses.
Kennedy said the thrtat of
a presidential veto plus Re
publican opposition stalled
some legislation. He said a
vigorous Democratic president
backed up by Democratic ma
jorities In both houses "can
win support for these pro
grams. "But it you send a Repub
lican president and a Demo
cratic majority and the threat
of a veto hangs over the Con
gress, In my Judgment you
will continue what hapencd In
tha August session," hi said.
Overwhelming
Favor Noted
For Encounters
By United Press International
The judges of Monday
night s Nixon Kennedy de
bate - the American voters-
won't make their final de
cision known until Nov. 8,
but today they appeared
overwhelmingly in favor of
staging face-to-face encount
ers by the two presidential
candidates.
A survey by United Press
I n t e r national, indicated a
split as to whether Vice
President Richard M. Nixon
or Sen. John F. Kennedy
came across better in their
hour-long meeting.
Debates Praised
But all of those interview
ed appeared inclined to
agree with Matthew M. But
schek, 34, of Dallas, Tex.,
who said the debates were
"the best thing that has ever
happened in a presidential
campaign."
Thomas Hogan, 31, a Den
ver, Colo., insurance sales
man, said "I think both can
didates made good appear
ances, presented their ideas
well. Of course, you will be
swayed by your political affiliation."
Those who picked a win
ner often favored the op
posite candidates for identi
cal reasons.
Mora Sincere
"Nixon did very well,"
said John Walton Lawson,
59, of Wilmet, 111. "He did
a whole lot better than Ken
nedy. He was more sincere
and seemed to have more
confidence."
"Sen. Ken ncdy seemed
more sure of himself," said
Mrs. Margaret Riley, 52, of
Pittsburgh, Pa. "They both
appeared sincere and both
fine men, but Mr. Kennedy
seemed to have a slight edge
over Nixon." '
Accountant Earl Vetter,
33, of Los Angeles, said, "A
display of two such facile
young men as prospective
presidents of the United
States was frightening to me.
While the debate was dra
matic in its form, its content
displayed a surprising lack
of evidence of the bold new
leadership which we all con
cur the country needs'
Very Impressed
A resident New Yorker,
Jason Bacon, 26, said, "I was
very impressed with the
way the debate was handled,
but I don't think either can
didate came out best."
Harry Provence, editor of
the Waco (Tex.) News Trib
une and Times Herald, said,
"The country will eagerly
await the rest of the debate.
It was a good lesson for
everybody and amounted to
a well - tempered political
discussion."
Austrian Plane
With 37 Aboard
Falls in Russia
Moscow IUPD An Austrian
Airlines plane with 37 per
sons aboard crashed in fog
and rain near Moscow Mon
day night, the Austrian Em
bassy announced today. Thirty
persons were killed. Of the
seven survivors, two were
Americans.
The British-built Viscount
was on a routine flight from
Vienna to Moscow with 31
passengers and a crew of six
when it crashed into a wood
ed area near the village of
Krukovo, seven miles from
Moscow, broke apart and
caught fire.
Americans Identified
The two Americans who
survived were Maj. Edward
Woolen, Wilmington, N. C,
assistant U.S. air attache here,
and Maj. Willis H. Knipe,
Kokomo, Ind., the assistant
military attache. Both were
hospitalized in Moscow's Vi
shnezky Clinic. Both were
burned.
The Soviet Tasj news
agency said 25 passengers and
five crew members were
killed, and five passengers
and one crew member slightly
bruised and another passenger
seriously hurt.
Wootcn and Knipe have
their families with them in
Moscow. Each has two chil
dren. Their wives were by
their bedsides during the day.
Wootcn was described as
in good condition, although
suffering from burns on the
left thigh and arm. Knipe uf-1
fercd serious burns.
Politicians Suggest Mertiier Nofflfcs?
Cinched Election in First Big Debate
Washington (UPil Snap
judgements from politicians
in both parties suggested to
day that neither presidential
nominee won the 1960 elec
tion in their first national de
bate and that neither was
hurt very badly, if at all.
Campaign managers in
both parties had suffered
from a case of nerves as they
awaited Monday night's
r a d 1 o-television debate be
tween Vice President Richard
M.. Nixon, the Republican
presidential candidate, and
Sen. John F. Kennedy, the
Democratic nominee.
Cautious Sparring
Both sides breathed more
easily after the debate, in
which the candidates sparred
cautiously and seemed some
what nervous lest a slip of
Stocks Make Broad
Move To Recovery
In Early Trading
New York - (UPD - Stocks
made a broad recovery move
in the early trading today In
moderately . active trading,
The advance was paced
by Monday's heavier casual
ties - electronics, drugs and
vending machines.
Steels joined in the move
with gains of a half or more
in Youngstown, Repub 1 1 c
and U.S. Steel. Bethlehem
was easier.
Auto sales rose sharply in
the middle third of Septem
ber and Ford, American Mo
tors and Studebaker Pack
ard responded with gains of
around a half.
DOW-JONES AVERAGES
New York Dow
Jones final stock averages:
30 industrials 577.14, off
8.06; 20 railroads 126.79, off
2.46; 15 utilities 92.48, off
1.14, and 65 slocks 193.58,
off 2.84.
Sales Monday were about
3.93 million shares compar
ed with 2.58 million shares
Friday.
elected
Monday's pricei
siocki;
Allied Chemical 47
Alum. Co. Am 653i
American Motors - 20
American Can 34
AT&T 90
Anaconda Copper 44b '
Armco Steel SB'.i
Bendix Corp 61
Bethlehem Steel 40
Boetm Air 2fii
Caterpillar Corp 24 'i
Chrysler Corp 41', 'a
Continental Con 35 i
Curtisa Wright 17
Dow Chemical 72
Du Pont 185 Va
Eastman Kodak 112",
Firestone 34
General Electric 74si
General Foods 66 't
General Motors 42 2
Georgia Pacific 47 3i
.Greyhound 20s
Gulf Oil 27' j
Homestake Mining 46
Idaho Power - 50,j
I. B. M 504
Int. Paper 88 'j
Johns Manville 51
KaUer Ind Z'2
Lockheed Aircraft 24
Montana Power 28 'i
Montgomery Ward 2B s,'
Nat l Biscut 63
New York Central 16H
Pac Gas St Elec 64
Penney, J. C 40
Penn RR ll'j
Radio Corporation 52 '2
Richfield Oil BOH
Safeway 36
Sears 51 Tt
Shell Oil T"
Socony Mobil Oil 3fTlt
Southern Co 4:i3,i
Southern PaciTic lR'i
Standard California 41T
Standard Indiana 387s
Standard N. J 40
Sun Mines e'i
Texas Co 723i
Texas tSulf Sulfur 15li
Texas Pac Land Trust 153a
Transam erica 25
Union Carbide 110
Union Pacific 25
United Aircraft 40 li
United Air Lines 2f
U. S. Rubber 44 'i
U. S. Steel 70 'i
1 Youngstown S Sc T 863b
Campaign Quotes
By United Press International
Sen. John F. Kennedy:
In the "Great Debate": "I
should make it very clear that
I do not think we are doing
enough, that I am not satis
fied as an American with the
progress that we are making.
This is a great country but I
think it could be a greater
country and this is a powerful
country but I think it could
be a more powerful country.
"If you feel that everything
that is being done now is
satisfactory, that the relative
power and prestige and
strength of the United States
is increasing in relation to
that of the Communists . . .
that we are achieving a better
life for our citizens and great
er strength ... I think you
should vote for Mr. Nixon.
But if you feel that we have
to move again in the 60s, that
the function of the president
is to set before the people . . .
what we must do as a society
to meet our needs in this
country and protect our se
curity and help the cause of
freedom then vote for me . . ."
Vice President Richard M.
Nixon:
(In the "Great Debate"): "Is
the United States standing
still? Is it true that this ad
ministration, as Sen. Kennedy
has charged, has been an ad
ministration of retreat, of de
feat, of stagnation? When we
compare the records of the
Truman and Eisenhower ad
ministrations I think we find
America has been moving
ahead . . .
"The Democratic platform
. . . runs a minimum of $13.2
billion a year more than we
are presently spending to a
maximum of $4.9 billion a
than we are presently spend
ing .. , The Republican plat
form . . . will cost a minimum
of $4 billion more a year, a
maximum of $49 billion a
year more than we are pres
ently spending . . .
"It is essential that a man
who is president . . . certain
ly stand for every program
that will mean for growth and
I stand for programs that will
mean growth and progress.
But it is also essential that
he not allow a dollar spent
that could be better spent by
the people themselves . . ."
Buenos Aires-flJPD-Ezequiel
Gainza Castro, 33. son of La
PrpiiM nnhHchpr Tir Alhprtn
Gainza Paz, was found dead
at his home Monday, appar
ently the victim of a heart
attack.
the tongue- bring disaster.
"If the fight had been
judged on points, Nixon
might have had the edge,"
was one Democratic com
ment. "If you listened to hol
lers from the record of the
Democratic and Republican
parties on welfare legislation
without drawing a direct re
ply from Nixon."
A Republican wanted to
give Nixon points for assert
ing that the Democratic plat
form would inflate the fed
eral budget by 13 to 18 bil
lion dollars a year compared
with increased costs of 4 to
5 billion dollars for the GOP
program.
No Direct Reply
These Nixon estimates
drew no direct reply from
Kennedy, wh'o d I d argue,
however, that a faster rate
of national economic growth
would yield more tax reve
nue to finance the programs
he favors.
Nothing was said or asked
about the religious issue
growing out of Kennedy's
Catholic fait h an issue
which may have great impact
on the outcome of t h
election.
Perhaps the biggest sur
prise came in Nixon's esti
mate of the cost of the rival
party platforms. Kennedy
never asked how the GOP
proposed to finance the addi
tional four to five billion
dollars the vice president said
his own program could cost.
Injuries in Crash
Fatal To Salem Man :
Albany - IUPD - Charles
Maurice Pollard, 20, Salem,
died Monday in a hospital
from injuries suffered in an
accident on the new freeway
Sunday night about n i n a
miles south of here.
State Policeman Bernar4
Patrick said Pollard's pick
up truck struck the rear pi
a car driven by Ruth Pow
ers, Seattle. The woman suf
fered a broken rib and cuts
and bruises.
Pollard moved to Salem
last January from Wilming
ton, Calif.
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