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Medford and Jackson County
History from the files of The
Mail Tribune 10, 20, 30 and
40 yean ago.
10 YEARS AGO
Dec. 17. 1948 (Friday)
Acting Mayor Frank J.
Runtz calls for safety precau
tions during the holidays to
make Christmas accident-free
The $685,000 school district
bond issue for constructing
new classrooms has been ap
proved at the polls by a large
majority.
20 YEARS AGO
Dec. 17. 1938 (Saturday)
Seven or eight cars
of
Rogue River valley turkeys
have been shipped in the last
10 days to eastern markets.
; From Arthur Perry's "Ye
Smudge Pot" column: "Quite
a few are getting ready to
scram to sunny Calif, around
the first."
30 YEARS AGO
Dec. 17. 1928 (Monday)
The Jackson County Fruit
growers league meets to elect
officers and hear important
reports.
Porcupines at Prospect are
chewing off the tops of pine
trees while successfully in
timidating the area's 26 dogs.
40 YEARS AGO
Dec. 17. 1918 (Tuesday)
I Nine well-known citizens
are captured in a raid for flu
mask violations.
: A woman write to Mayor
Gates that the flu masks have
improved people's looks by
discouraging tobacco chewing
and smoking.
What's Your I.Q.?
Nine er ten correct is superior;
seven er eight is excellent; fire ei
six is good.
1. Is the "Paul's Scarlet" a
tea rose, or a climbing rose?
2. Which two valuable min
erals were in the ores discov
ered in the famous Comstock
lode?
3. Alexander C. (Lex) Bark
er Jr., gained fame as a movie
actor in playing what charac
ter?
4. In the nursery rhyme,
what did Peter, the pumpkin
eater, do with his wife?
5. All
false? .
owls hoot; true or
- 6. Who was Nellie Melba?
7. In radio, what do the in
itials FM stand for?
8. A four-sided figure with
two sides parallel is known as
at d?
". 9. Who was the inventor of
dynamite?
10. The area of Vatican City
is under 2, under 5, under 10
square miles?
..Answers: 1. Climbing rose.
2. Gold and silver. 3. "Tar
zan." 4. He put her in a pump
kin shell. 5. False. 6. Famous
opera singer. 7. Frequency
modulation. 8. Trapezoid. 9.
Alfred Nobel. 10. Under 2
square miles.
BIOGRAPHY ON SALE
: Vatican City-JPI)-The first
biography of Pope John XXIII
was on sale here today. The
170-page, 24-picture book was
written by Andrea Lazzarini,
an editor of the Vatican City
newspaper Osservatore Romano.
All Are
A friendly call from
got us started thinking
teachers.
Her call was motivated by the tribute paid to
the high school and junior high school musical
instructors who have brought the Medford music
program so much praise during a high school
concert last Sunday.
She said she agreed that they deserve praise.
But she added that some individuals not men
tioned on that occasion also deserve a word of
appreciation the instructors in the elementary
schools whose work is little-noticed or mentioned,
but which forms the entire basis on which the
later successes are built.
CHE'S right, of course.
But the same thing applies in all fields, not
just music. It applies to the teachers who find and
encourage the first spark of talent in future writ
ers, teachers, administrators, mathematicians.
It applies to teachers who see in some first or
second or third grader a quality which sets him
apart, and who bend their efforts to help him
develop that quality into what later will become
a characteristic of usefulness and value.
OUR admiration for the teaching profession, as
a whole, has long been great. It extends from
those who find their most useful niche on the
campuses of higher learning to those dedicated
men and women who combine readin', 'ritin' and
'rithmetic with wiping
put on galoshes.
The accomplishments
of instruction do not detract from those on anoth
er level, for all are important, all are necessary,
and all are devoted to
sources, its people an
citizenry of the future.
Economists Differ
Economics has never
points, and we are inclined to believe that we
share this deficiency with rather more than 90
per cent of the adult population of the country.
We can'X even understand, fully, what Shorty
Hibbard is driving at m
where on this page today.
the relationship of gold to our monetary system
today was purely coincidental and exceedingly
tenuous, and that the price of gold has little if
anything to do with the credit system on which
our economy like it or not is now based.
CCONOMICS is the study, basically, of re
" sources and their wise use. Inevitably this
involves money, in our complicated civilization.
But economists, learned, studious men that
thev are, can and do quarrel violently about the
significance and even the facts of a case, if they
come from differing schools of thought.
A Kevnesian. for instance, would probably
tell Shorty Hibbard that he's barking up the
wroner tree, blaminsr the ills of the economy on
the shortage of gold and
Federal Reserve system.
A more orthodox (or,
for Keynesianism is becoming the orthodoxy of
the day) economist might agree that the nation
should return to the gold
of the yellow metal, and liquidate the national
debt which, in effect, is the basis for America's
present monetary system.
SALEM Editor Charles A. Sprague points out
Vtrviir rlifforinor ornnnrnir intprnrptnt.inns start
at the same point and come out with diametrically
opposed conclusions.
The basic premise is this: A teacher was in
structing her students in the proper way to wash
their hands m the rest-room at the school, ana
pointed out for reasons of economy, they should
use only half a sheet of paper towel.
Whereupon an economist pointed out that if
that practice were universally adopted, it would
have an adverse effect on the pulp and paper
industry, that they would have to reduce produc
tion, that loggers and mill - workers would lose
their jobs, and the economy would be hurt.
CPRAGUE ruminates about this poor teacher
who is wrecking the economy, and wonders
why the "economist" didn't suggest that she begin
a major boom by recommending the use of two
paper towels. Then he thought some more :
Suppose the teacher succeeded in her original j
instructions to use a half
she would be saving money for the taxpayers:
"This would mean that the taxpayer, instead 01
having to starve his children and skimp on their
clothing to meet his tax bill, would have some money
left, which then could buy more groceries and thus
benefit the farmer, or more clothing, which would
give employment to idle textile workers, or even
build an addition to the house which would help the
lumber mills and so get back to those loggers."
LJIS basic conclusion is one we share :
"Do you wonder I'm confused? And the
teacher, too?"
Economics is still an
the charts, diagrams, graphs, and such-like which
have been devised to describe the problems and
to propose solutions.
It is a relatively new
far. It HAS developed techniques of description
and of analysis which permit us to know far more
today about the ups and clowns and intricacies
of our economy. And it is
But in a political climate where the voter is
still boss, the economists, with their differing
viewpoints and interpretations, hold only the
roles of advisors, not'the
In these roles they are
powerful. Which is the way it should be. E.A.
Important
a woman the other day
about elementary school
runny noses and helping
of teachers on one level
America s greatest re
educated and literate
h.A.
been one of our strong
a communication else
We had believed that
the manipulations of the
rather, old-fashioned,
standard, raise the price
-sheet of paper towel;
inexact science, despite
science, but has come
still learning.
roles of leaders.
valuable, but not all-
Dennis the Menace
OOH'r TRY 5f?lNGlN' My
lie HIM TO A TKee IN THe BACK YARD.'
Communications
Letters to the Editor must bear the name and address of the writer,
although under certain circumstances the use of a pen name or initial
for publication is permissible. The Mail Tribune reserves the right to
edit all letters with a view to clarification and condensation. Letters
submitted for publication must not exceed 400 words. The letters
printed in this column do not necessarily represent the views of the
saper; in fact the contrary i often Ihe case.
Merry Christmas, Medford
To the Editor: I added a new name to my Christmas
gift list today. The name Medford and I write this letter
hoping that others will wish to join me. The news that our
UMC is nearly $5,000 short of its goal is very disturbing to
me. For several years we have felt great pride that our
UMC always "hit the top". To fail now would indeed be
tragic.
Christmas time is a time for counting blessings, and I
count living in Medford high among ours. So instead of
sending individual greetings to our friends in Medford, I
enclose a gift (not a donation or contribution) to the UMC,
and the gift tag reads Merry Christmas To Medford.
Fran Wimberly
30 Barneburg rd.
Medford.
Editor's note: If people wish to follow Mrs. Wimberly's
suggestion, gifts can be mailed to the UMC at Box 5000
until Dec. 22, when the UMC office will close. After that
they can be mailed to the newsroom of the Mail Tribune,
which will see they reach the proper UMC officials.
Whose Job?
To the Editor: Once more
speaking of Beautifying our
Highway: what is more de
pressing when you drive our
highway daily and see crushed
animals, dogs and cats, beaten
into the pavement until they
are powdered and blowing
away. This nas been in exist
ence continuously between
Medford and Ashland for the
past 12 years, as I drive to
work and back. almost every
day.
About a week or so ago a
very large dog lay on the
highway near Talent. Recent
ly someone was kind enough
to drag the dog to the curb.
The animal was still there
this morning. -
This, in my opinion, is one
of the most degrading things
on our highway today. Rough
ly I would say that more than
100 animals have been
crushed on this piece of high
way since I have lived in Ash
land for the past 12 years.
Whose job is it to remove
the carcasses of animals when
killed on the highway? We
keep them cleared from near
our premises, and we gener
ally bury them.
E. M. Tucker,
Tucker Sno-Cat Corpora
tion, South Pacific Hwy,
Medford.
Bus Patronage Off
To the Editor: The authors
of the letter printed Monday,
Dec. 15, should familiarize
themselves with the history
of the bus system which for
nearly 15 years has been oper
ating in Medford and the sur
rounding area, and with the
bus operations in Salem and
Eugene, before pronouncing
that bus service is the an
swer to downtown parking
problems.
Briefly, within the past 10
Try and
By BENNETT CERF :
AN ARISTOCRATIC lady
that took an estate in the
and hired a localite to take her
every afternoon. On their
first excursion, the well-intentioned
driver began tell
ing her all about the region
and the characters who in
habited it until the lady
silenced him with a curt, "I
hired you to drive for me,
sir, not to converse with
me."
That was the last time the
driver opened his mouth.
But when he submitted his
bill at the end of the month,
there was one item thereon
the lady didn't understand.
He explained it to her: "That's sass, $10. I don't generally take
it, but when I do, I charge for it."
Stephen Leacock is the man who originated the story about the
inebriate in a saloon who picked up a sandwich and hurled it against
the mirrored wall.
"There," said a bystander, "is food for reflection."
O 1958. fcy Bennett Cert rutrlbutel by Klcg Features Syndicate.
PONY OOWN TUB CHWiByl
years buses were operated in
Medford on two routes serv
ing the East Side, three routes
on the West Side, one route
north toward Central Point
and one route serving Ashland
and the south part of Medford.
All buses ran hourly. Ever
green Bus lines service is now
limited to Medford - Ashland
and Medford -Camp White.
The decline in service was
due to lack of patronage.
Service in Eugene and Sa
lem was interrupted recently
by a bankruptcy suit filed by
drivers whose wages had not
been paid, according to stories
printed in the Mail Tribune
Bus service involves a will
ingness to walk: from home
to a bus stop; from store to
store while shopping; from
the bus stop to home. Too
many housewives have found
this less convenient than
"rushing to work with our
husbands, in order to have the
car for the day."
Ralph B. Matthews,
601 Dakota,
Medford
Dismaying Picture?
To the Editor: In regard to
a situation that should not
exist, I have talked to 20 per
sons, of whom only five, 20
per cent, knew that the Fed
eral Reserve Banks are pri
vately owned.
The following facts are, I
believe, important to every
one of us. The Treasury gold
holdings are now $22,700,000;
the claims outstanding against
this gold total $22,300,000,
consisting principally of gold
certificates held by the Fed
eral Reserve Banks.
Neither our government nor
our citizens have any interest
whatsoever in the Federal Re
serve Banks except that of
paying interest on the notes
Congress allows the Bank to
Stop Me
Knickerbocker family and all
Berkshirshires for the summer
driving through the countryside
UPI Man Sees Evidence Red China Might
Suffer From Commune Resentment
(Editor's note: Earnest Ho
berecht. United Press Interna
tional vice president and gener
al manager for Asia, has just
completed a five-day tour of
Southwest Asia.)
By EARNEST HOBERECHT
Tokyo (UPD There is evi
dence that Communist China
is headed for trouble.
Competent students of Chi
nese affairs' in Manila, Singa
pore, Bangkok, Taipei, Macao
and Hong Kong told me these
troubles could even include
open revolt on a scale much
larger than anything the Com
munists obviously are experi
encing and putting down with
force right now.
Here is what has happened.
Last year Chairman Mao
Tse-tung and his comrades
felt they had the situation so
well under control that they
announced a program permit
ting freedom to express views,
to criticize the party and the
government.
Result Astonishes
The result obviously aston
ished and shocked the Com
munist dictators. The criticism
came and it came in such
force that the Red govern
ment could not tolerate it. It
came from the common man
and from the intellectuals.
In China, the people always
have had tremendous respect
for the scholar. The position
of the soldier always has been
low.
So when the intellectuals
started criticizing the Chinese
Communist regime, held in
power by the force of arms of
the soldiers, the masses were
impressed.
Quick Retaliation
Some of the intellectuals
who took Chairman Mao at his
Step-Down by Mao
Not End of Power;
Commune Push Seen
By STEWART HENSLEY
Washington (UPD Ameri
can officials predicted today
that Chinese Communist Boss
create. The printing and issu
ing of these notes cost the
Bank $.30 per $1,000. When
printing a billion dollars
worth of these notes, the Fed
eral Reserve pays over to our
government the sum of $300,
000: that is, $.30 for each
$1,000 worth of notes.
Each time the Bank prints
a new issue, there is more in
terest that we have to pay the
bank. Much of our income tax
money goes to pay that In
terest.
In the B r e 1 1 o n Woods
Agreement, our government
agreed that foreign dollars
were to be convertible in
gold, a privilege we Ameri
can citizens do not have. The
following shows where a lot
of our gold loss went in 1958:
Britain
Switzerland
Netherlands
.$900 million
250
170
Belgium
Italy
Portugal
275 "
190
35
Others, including the Bank
of International Settlements
$380 million: These total $2.2
billion.
The Treasury Department
has determined that we need
$22.3 billion dollars in gold to
comply with our own mone
tary laws. According to the
daily balance of the Treasury
we are nearly $2 billion shy.
This, however, is only a small
portion of our deficit.
Foreign held dollars con
vertible to gold as of March,
1957, amounted to $16,245,-
000,000. That amount deduct
ed from a little over $20 bil
lion, which is our present gold
holding, leaves only $4 billion
to do the work of $22,
300,000,000. Living costs are going up
all the time, and there are
more strikes resulting in wage
increases. What is our money
going to amount to? Possibly
revaluation of gold may
help. Certainly the production
of gold at $35 per ounce is im
possible at present wage rates.
Even with increased price, it
would, take a lot of digging to
produce enough gold in this
country to meet our mone
tary needs. The whole picture
is dismaying.
Shorty Hibbard
1302 Saling ave.
Medford. j
SAVE! SAVE!
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word and criticized things
suddenly found themselves
out of jobs and banished to
distant places.
When the intellectuals got
to the rural areas, they found
willing listeners.
Here the intellectuals were
able to find supporters among
the masses t h e peasants
who could lead a real revolt
against the Peiping regime.
With their system of spies,
the leaders of the Communist
government realized some
thing had to be done. It was
then, some students of Chinese
affairs believe, that Peiping
decided on the severest of all
control measures the unpre
cedented communes.
The communes provide ef
fective; control of the popula
tion. The voices of the intel
lectuals no longer can be
heard in the villages and the
home, for normal family life
is wiped out by this latest
Chinese Communist Instru
ment. But in hushing the voices of
the intellectuals and in break
ing up the families, what have
the Communists done? There
is feeling in many really
competent quarters that Com
munist China may have made
a fatal mistake.
Help Production
The communes help to in
crease production. They
strengthen control of the
workers. They further the
cause of pure communism.
But what else?
Since the communes de
stroy the family system, each
man is more or less on his
own. If he is separated from
his family and made a mere
unit in a machine, his family
Mao Tse-Tung will intensify
his feverish campaign to com
plete organization of the 650
million inhabitants of the
Red mainland into "slave
state" communes, now that he
is reported shedding, the cere
monial duties of the presi
dency. They disagreed with spec
ulation in Taipei and some
other capitals that Mao was
being "downgraded," declar-,
ing that such interpretations '
appeared to be based princi
pally on wishful thinking.
Report Confirmed
A high-ranking diplomat in
peiping told the United Press
International in Tokyo by
telephone today that Mao def
initely was planning to step
down as chairman of the Red
Chinese government next
March. No formal announce
ment has been made.
On the basis of information
from Peiping so far, officials
said, Mao apparently will
have as much power as ever
plus more time to devote to
his agricultural-industrial reg
imentation scheme which
goes far beyond anything yet
tried in Russia.
He will continue as Com
munist Party boss in China-
the top power job. He will re
main as chairman of the Cen
tral Committee, the Central
Political Bureau, the Nation
al Defense Council and the
Supreme State Conference, ac
cording to information avail
able here.
Must Continue
American officials ' said
they believe Mao and his
colleagues have passed the
point of no return in their
campaign to whip China's
millions into a system which
Secretary of State John Fos
ter Dulles has described as a
program of "slave labor that
sacrifices human dignity on
a scale unprecedented in all
world history." Dulles added,
however, that the commune
drive "is producing material
results."
American officials are con
vinced that the drapia now
being unfolded in China
marks a great milestone in
Communist history. Success
for Mao's experiment could
mean the beginning of a new
and harsher era for millions.
Failure could signal the be
ginning of the end for Com
munism everywhere.
SOON! SOON!
no longer is a "hostage" and
he has nothing to lose if he re
volts to throw off his chains.
Since husband and wife are
separated and can be alone
together perhaps only once
every two weeks, the com
mune system is not likely to
be voted the most popular
way of life, however much it
may appeal to the political
bosses of China.
Population Problem
In this connection, it is note
worthy that Communist Chi
na's population is increasing
at a rate of about 15 million
persons per year. Some quar
ters on the outside are specu
lating that the love-every-two-weeks
policy established with
ing the communes actually
may be a birth control tech
nique conceived by Peiping to
halt population growth. It is
certain that Peiping is con
cerned about feeding its more
thn 650 million mouths.
To control and push their
millions of commune workers,
In the Day's News
By FRANK
Dr. John F. Sly, reporting
the other day to the Oregon
Department of Planning and
Development, made an attention-arresting
statement. Ore
gon's tax spending, he said, is
reaching a point that causes
some concern.
He added:
Oregon's ratio of taxes to
per capita income is the
HIGHEST IN THE FAR
WEST.
WHAT to do about it?
In his report to
the
Development Department, Dr.
Sly said there are only two
ways to keep Oregon's tax
burden in line with the tax
burdens of states that are com
peting with Oregon for indus
trial development:
1. Cut costs of government.
2. Increase the state's econ
omy so that it will be able to
support a bigger tax total,
PERHAPS, at . this point,
we'd better do a little ex
plaining. What does he mean by
cutting costs of government?
It's perfectly simple. He
means SPEND LESS. In a pre
vious report to the Develop
ment department, Dr. Sly
pointed out that. Oregon is
known as a high level service
state. That is to spy, Oregon
provides a lot of services to its
The Dalles Tries
Teen-Age Jury
The Dalles- (UPD -A juvenile
traffic court using a jury of
teen-agers who will recom
mend penalties for offenders
will be tried here on a trial
basis. The city round ap
proved the proposal Monday
night.
The court is designed to
separate juvenile traffic cases
from those involving adults.
The panel will convene each
Saturday morning in city hall
council chambers, similar to a
plan now in effect at Poca-
tello, Idaho.
The proposal to test such a
court here was recommended
by the Wasco County Juvenile
Advisory Board. .
The jury will be composed
of six members and two alter
nates. Selection wll be made
from The Dalles High school
by the principal. The juvenile
court is expected to go into
effect after the holidays. ,
PLANE DUE TODAY
Havana -UPD- The first of
three big British-made turbo
props which Cubana Airlines
plans to use in its Transatlan
tic service is scheduled to
reach here today.
NON-CENTS
Birmingham, England-dlPD-
Frederick Martin, 35, started
a three-month jail sentence to
day for counterfeiting two
shilling (28 cents) coins that
he admitted "would not have
fooled a child of eight.".
SERVING ALL
WHO CALL
Recognized as a leader
in the funeral profes-
c
M. Litwiller
sion, Litwiller's has served Jackson Co. since 1935.
Constantly striving to bring you that better funeral
and ambulance service at the lowest possible cost.
LITWILLER
Funeral
Home
Mountain View Chapel
Hwy, 66 at Normal
Office 88 N. Main
ASHLAND
We Never Close '
the Communists are reported
to be sending more and more
arms to distant areas.
As more and more arms are
sent out to control the restless
masses, the greater become
the chances of these arms fall
ing into the hands of revolu
tionaries. Might Aid Landing
Western intelligence sources
have reported there is reason
to believe the people within
Communist China would give
considerable support to a Na
tionalist China landing force,
if they thought it had a fair
chance of success. This is an
interesting and important bit
of information, along with the
latest unconfirmed reporti
that Marshal Chu Teh will re
place Mao as leader of Com
munist China.
It all adds up to an increas-.
ing flow of evidence that
Communist China is not rid
ing down a smooth road. She
has her troubles and they are
beginning to multiply.
JENKINS
people. He added that as long
as this is true, Oregon will be
a high level TAX state.
By increasing the state's
economy, he means getting
more industries to provide
more jobs for more people
WHO WILL PAY TAXES,
thus widening the tax base
and lightening the PER CAPI
TA tax burden.
THIS is his point:
If we permit Oregon's
tax structure especially as it
bears upon business to get
out of balance with the tax
structures of states that are
competing with Oregon for in
dustrial development ORE
GON WILL SUFFER in the
competition for new indus
tries. That's the long and the
short of it.
IUHO is this Dr. Sly?
' He is the director
of
Princeton University Surveys.
He was hired by the Oregon
Development Department to
study Oregon's tax situation,
with particular emphasis on
its tax CLIMATE so that an
intelligent conclusion can be
reached as to whether or not
Oregon is competitive, tax-
wise, with other states that are
seeking industrial develop
ment in competition with Ore
gon.
He will appear before a
joint session of the legislature
early in January to discuss
his report. He is an impressive
character. He knows his sub
ject. In talking with him, one
gains the impression that he
keeps his feet on the ground
and his head out of the clouds.
He is PRACTICAL in his
approach to the subject he has
been hired to investigate and
discuss. If the Oregon legisla
ture gives heed to his advice
and comes up with a tax pro
gram designed to accomplish
the objectives he suggests
and if the people of Oregon
support such a program he
will have earned his fee.
MONEY
At Crater Finance you may
borrow for any worth
while purpose on your
FURNITURE - AUTO
SALARY
and repay in monthly In
stallments. You may
choose the terms most suit
able to you up to 24
months.
Loam may be paid in ad
vance er in full at any time.
Crater Finance
CORPORATION
135 Pine Street
Central Point
Phone NO 4-1273
Frank Wilkinson, Mgr.
Convenient Parking
Mrs. Litwiller
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'It i better to know us and not need tn.
than to need us and not know us."