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MEDFORD MATL TRIBUNE, MEDFORD. OREGON, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, 1941.
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Ariz., last week, according to
press dispatches. This Is the
worse going-over ever sustained
by the aipnaDet, ana even
Russian born in Krasnogvar
deiskvo would run out of wind
trying to pronounce it.
A crowd gathered at the bank
corner yes. pm. and watched
huge buckets pour cement at
the Debenger Gap dam, which
when completed will create a
large lake, with navy yard
at Trail, and huge drydocks at
Shady Cove.
The Joe Fliegel boy Is back
from Wis. where he caught a
fish so big his Paw had to
spread out his arms to Indicate
Its size. From the description it
sounds like a whale.
CLEAR AS MUD
(Exchange)
"Mr. and Mrs. Leo Whltt
nd son Buddy moved Sun
day Into the house which they
got from James Rotan In a
trade and he got their house
which he will move before
, long on his lots over near the
Fred Jones, Sr., place, where
Oscar Copas and family will
move when it is fixed up." I
Commentators report "history
is repeating Itself" in the Rus
sian campaign. There are times
when it looks like history was
also overdoing itself.
Vlrglnlo Gayda, the press
agent for II Duce Mussolini,
bared the keys of his typewriter
in the wake of the President'
"Shoot First" speech last week,
and declares the Italian navy,
"must attack In self-defense. If
they cannot escape." If the past
is any gauge, the accent will be
on "escape."
Ginger Rogers of film fame,
and the local ranch set, accord
ing to plans, will be Inducted
into the Jackson County Sher
iff's Posse next Sat. In the pres
ence of so much brains and
beauty, glamor and charm. '
some of the possemon won't be
able to stand on the ground, let
alona sit in a saddle, it is feared.
"A writer In a woman's mag
azine urges her readers not to
overlook the most insignificant
detail of their wedding arrange
ments. After all, If It wasn't for
him there just wouldn't he a
wedding." (Santa Fe Mag.)
And, If he faints, revive him,
and go ahead ruthlessly with
the ceremony.
Here we are on the verite of
another high schrool football
season and by this time next
week 82-0 games, that were
closer than the score Indicates,
will be told on the sports pages.
Ihls year coaches of the Black
Tornado's opponent, when they
run on the field, after every
play, presumably to nurse an in
jured ankle that wasn't hurt,
will be accompanied by an es
cort, to assist in the first aid.
and see the quarterback Is not
told what signals to call next.
T. Luy, the Antelope cow
hand. Is back from a 10-days'
stay In the south, where he saw
Ringling Bros, circus, and is
now watering his own stock. In
stead of their elephants.
A European war correspond
ent visiting upstate reports fam
ine conditions prevail In Spain.
However, he states: "If you
have money there, you can get
all vnu want tn est ' That's the
way things work out here. '
Peace by Christmas?
A CCORDING to our special operative in Washing
ton, D. C, there is a strong and persistent rumor
there the war will end by Christmas.
The end will be brought about by the German
High Command liquidating ex-Corporal Adolf Hitler,
assuming the reins of government and making peace
with the allies.
IF this rumor is very strong and far-reaching we
think President Roosevelt would be wise to track it
down and scotch it.
For while almost anything might happen in this
crazy world, and the forceable exit of Herr Hitler
any time now would not greatly surprise us; even so,
world peace in 1941 just couldn't be brought about
And nothing would be harder on allied, and
particularly American, morale than to have such a
false hope aroused at this critical time, with the in
evitable let-down in war effort, and then later to have
it dissipated, as it almost certainly would be.
XE repeat, almost anything might happen, with
the war situation in such a state of flux and
confusion.
But even if Adolf's mortal coil were severed and
the German army did take over, what chance would
there be of any peace agreement?
None whatever as we see it, at least short of
unconditional surrender on the part of the German
High Command, which would mean the empire's dismemberment.
MO, barring a miracle, and we MEAN miracle,
' there is no chance of world peace by Christmas,
unless the German war machine should not only
he defeated but completely CRUSHED. And
that just isn't in the cards, as we view them,
and probably won't be for another year or two at
least
So the less pipe dreams of this sort are encour
aged, the better for the allied cause, and especially
for the American effort '
IMAGINE, for example, what the prospect of
peace in 90 days, as a result of a German upheaval,
would do to U. S. army morale, which is low enough
as it is, or to the interventionist bloc, who have main
tained from the outset that without ALL-OUT U. S.
participation, Hitler would
More than that
Practically every argument of the radical isola
tionists would be sustained
Our special operative
grapevine mmor originated. If it is as general and
persistent as he claims, however, our own guess is
its origin is not many miles from the Nazi consulate !
What Price Peace?
IN all likelihood the basis for the above grapevine
1 report is the growing conviction that Hitler can't
win, and knows it
There is little doubt of
I, there is considerable doubt of the second.
And until the second is
fighting for all he is worth,
Nazi bermany, will continue to fight with him.
QN the other hand, there is little doubt the growth
of this conviction outside of Germany has been
responsible for Japan's right-about-face in the Pacific
and for Mussolini's practical retirement as militant
leader of the fascist Black
many sees the handwriting on the wall, the other
members of the Axis will no doubt have vanished
as actual or potential combatants, not caring to fur
ther risk their skins for a dead horse.
RUT with this question, as with most others, lvow
" ever, there is another side. And before the allies
actually celebrate the demise of Nazi Germany that i
otner side should be considered.
"THE strongest human (or animal) instinct is that
of self-preservation. Even a rat when cornered,
will fight
Before the totalitarian Axis can be completely
counted out, not only must Nazi Germany be crushed
within and without; but the Fascist parties in both
Italy and Japan must be liquidated in the same con
clusive fashion.
And this will be no easy job, no brief one.
For there is not only a second World War being
waged, there is world-wide revolution in full blast.
And in general terms the two conflicting forces are
those of democracy and dictatorship, engaged, di
rectly or indirectly, all over the planet in a war to
the death.
CO, even accepting as entirely true the assumption
Hitler can't win, there is still a prospect of a long
period of conflict, which will demand all the democ
racies can produce in the way of force, fortitude and
resource, before there can be anything lasting
achieved in the way of permanent world peace.
Indeed, the mopping-up process may be as extended
in time as the conflict
In short, while the present war situation is de
cidedly encouraging the present is no time to con
sider, or even speculate about, the prospect for any
immediate peace.
KILLED BY CAR
The Dalles. Sept. 1 -P
Deschutes river sportsmen ask
ed the state fish commission to
day to tnvestlgnte a fung'is
growth that apparently is kill
be bound to triumph 1
overnight
fails to state where this
the truth of contention No.
true, Hitler will keep on
and Germany, at least
Shuts. Long before Ger
ing fish. A number of dead sal
mon have been found near the
river's mouth.
Balu wood, a subst.tute for cork.,
la obtainable In large quantities In
Personal Health Service
Br William
Signed teturs pertaining to personal health and hygiene, doc to dliests
diagnosis or treatment, will he answered by Dr. Brady It a stamped self
addressed envelope Is enclosed. Letters should be brief and written Id Ink.
Owing to the large number of letters received only a tew ran be answered
here. No reply can be made to qnerlee not conforming to Instructions.
Addrss Dr. William Brady, tu CI Camlno, Beverly Hills, Calif.
NEVER MIND
The popular notion of "weak
nerves" is as meaningless as
"weak eyes" or "weak lungs"
or "weak sto-
maeh."
Persons who
have actual
disease affect
in g brain,
spinal cord or
nerves are
generally not
more "nerv
out" than
those who
have disease
of bone. Inter
nal organ or
skin.
Physicians are still more or
less confused about what they
still call "neurasthenia" a term
which, if it means anything,
means nerve weakness. Fifty
years ago "neurasthenia" was
fashionable among the well-to-
do patients of ethical quacks.
With a little training Dy tne
quack the "neurasthenic" pat
ient could get into a nice pri
vate sanitarium and enjoy
weeks or months of coddling
and pampering, away from all
the vexations of nagging wife
or exacting husband or other
cares or responsibilities. The
sanitarium business was a bon
anza in the gay nineties, but
as the doctors began to see what
a mockery the concept of neu
rasthenia was, the sanitarium
business began to decline. To
day a sanitarium is either a real
hospital adequately equipped
for the study and care of pat
ients or else a blind for some
kind of shady business.
A fairly representative state
ment of the present medical
view of neurasthenia Is this,
quoted from a textbook of clin
ical neurology published In
1936:
Neurasthenia. . . . char
acterized by lack of energy,
easy mental and physical
fatigability, mild gastrointes
tinal disturbances, poverty of
power of concentration, pres
sure on top of head and in
the back, feeling a tight band
about the head ... all a direct
result, according to Freud . . .
Well, we'll go no further with
that, because Freud's theory is
hardly sound or acceptable to
modern medicine. But the same
authority describes some of the
familiar "symptoms of neuras
thenia" thus:
Kelly's
Comment
From Washington
Oregon Ignored
in Navy Handouts
Pendleton Plea
For Aid Reduced
Oregon Unions
Lose Navy Jobs
By John W. Kally
(Note: During the absence of
Mr. Kelly cn vacation his daily
column will be written by Mr
Paul Dunham, member of our
Washington. D. C. staff).
Washington, D. C. Sept. 16.
Where Oregon "gets off" Is
demonstrated once more In the
new announcement of projects
lor the navy. The story can be
reduced to a single line: Oregon,
S462.MO: Washington. $7,793.
000; California, $12,798,000. All
these are items indexed and
made public by the navy, not
one a duplication, but all In
iddition to the millions here
tofore expended by the navy on
the Pacific coast since the na
tional defense program took
shape. What the army has spent
and whnt it pians spending on
the west coast is not to be con
fused with this single naval
outlay.
The Oregon share of the navy
potlalch consists of $450,000
lor buildings and accessories at
Tongue Point at the mouth of
Ihe Columbia river, and a house
to cost $12,300 for the officer
In charge of the naval radio
itation. These are all that the
navy has deemed necessary on
the Columbia river. In the Pu
pet sound area the navy Is going
to town, strengthening Its de
fense facilities, which include
the start of a brand new naval
i.ir station on Whidby Island,
given $3 ;0 000 for site and
buildings; a naval magazine en
Indian island to cost $1 100.000:
for the naval air base at Sand
Point which cannot be expand
ed. $M0 000: quarters for mar
ried operators at the Bainbridge
island naval radio station, $72,
000 And so forth.
None of these projects ar
under contract, according to the
navy department, yet It is
known that several of the extra
large projects In California have
been awarded and no publicitj
Brady. M. D.
YOUR NERVES
"The symptoms are mainly
subjective, and consist essen
tially of abnormal fatigability
and exaggerated irritability.
The neurasthenic shows both
physical and mental exhaust
ibility. He gets up tired In
the morning, feels better as
the day progresses, and often
regains full vigor before go
ing to bed."
Space remaining may be just
enough to permit us to mention
here conditions which unques
tionably do cause "abnormal
fatigability and exaggerated ir
ritability" and make the victim
"show both physical "and men
tal exhaustibility."
First is anoxia. Insufficent
oxygen in tissues. This may oc
cur from climbing or travelling
to a high altitude or from fly
ing high; or from prolonged or
frequent exposure to air slight
ly polluted with carbon monox
ide; or from cardiovascular or
circulatory deficiencies the
subject Is dealt with in book
let "How to Breathe," if you
would learn more- about it.
Next is aritamlnosis, insuf
ficient supply of vitamins to
maintain vite, which means an
adequate fund of reserve power
to tide over emergencies and
strains. Send stamped envelope
bearing your address, for book
let on Vite and. Reserve Power.
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
Diabetes
Does a child born from a diabetic
parent (the male) necessarily Inherit
diabetes or any ailment due to It
(Mrs. B. J. D.)
Answer No. There la a predisposi
tion Inherited, but If the wife of the
diabetic In question hu a family his
tory free from dlabetea there may
be no transmission of the tendency
to the man's offspring. Send ten
cent and a stem; i envelope bear
ing your address, for booklet "Train
ing lor uiaoetes '.
The lodln Ration
Please send instructions for tax
ing your Iodine lon and name and
adrlresa of the pharmacy where the
solution may be obtitned.
((Mrs. R. A. B l
Answer "Instructions for Tv,irin
an lodln Ration" mailed on request If
you provide stamped envelope bear
ing your address. Tincture of Iodine
msy be obtained from anv dnie
store.
(Copyright 1841, John P. Dllle Co.)
Ed. Note: Person! wishing to
communicate with Dr. Brady
should send letter direct to Dr.
William Brady. M. D SS El
Camlno. Beverly Hills, Calif.
given. Certain contractors (who
have grabbed the lion's share
of work) have an linrannv math.
I " uuiaining h contract (army
i or navy) before other contrac-
tors suspect what is going on.
With a single exception (Colum
I bla-Portland airport) all of the
army and navy Jobs which have
been allocated to Oregon, and
they are very few, have been
given to outsiders; contractors
not residents cf Oregon. Certain
of these contracts look like in
side Jobs, awarded because of
high political pressure from
tibove." as one department of
ficial confessed.
e e e
A COUPLE of months ago
congress appropriated $150,000,
000 under the Lanham act to
provide various facilities re
quired because of the shifting
ot population: migration of peo
ple to new defense projects,
taking their children who re
quire school accommodations,
etc. For a slice of this money
2,000 applications have been
received, and the total requests
amount to $700,000,000.
Among others applying for a
project to provide a school was
Pendleton; the proposal was for
$155,388 of which Pendleton
was to put up $38,898.50 and
ivcelve a grant of $116,689.50.
The federal board In charge
of these projects has approved
the Pendli'ton proposal, with a
string attached. It has read
justed the terms and cuts the
grant down to $62,234 and sug
gests that Pendleton pay $93.-
.JoJ. In explanation for the
-i".t,p,-w .'ua i u 9MII-, mat
..chool In Pendleton Is not strict- i
'y a national defense project; j
that while some of the pupils'
may be children of neonle work-1
ing on defense, the increased
number of children of school
age is the natural result of the
growth of the community and
therefore the burden should be
carried by Pendleton.
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A VERY emphatic "No" is the
PLANER BLOCKS
Big Unit Load . . . $5.50
Half Unit Load . $3.00
Buy Now for Next Winter
Valley
Tel. S3T
reply of the navy department
to a protest from labor organi
zations in Oregon that the navy
is refusing to have ships con
verted in ports along the Co
lumbia and Willamette rivers
because of the high wage scale.
Navy declares that there Is no
reason to send vessels to be
transformed into transports in
the Columbia, Puget sound or
ht San Francisco when the scale
for this work is higher than the
cost of conversion in eastern
ports.
The union at Los Angeles,
rather than lose the work, has
modified its scale, but Portland,
Tacoma-Seattle and San Fran
cisco are standing pat and not
getting the Jobs. One ship was
transformed in the Columbia,
but when the navy saw the price
it withdrew a second ship which
had been awarded to a Portland
concern and sent it to the Atlan
tic coast where the unions were,
according to the navy depart
ment, more reasonable.
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WHETHER or not there is
tin in Oregon remains a disputed
question. W. C. Mendenhall of
the geological survey insists
that there is no tin in the 14
samples obtained from Juniper
ridge, west of Burns and east
of Bend. Mr. Mendenhall says
every known method of recov
ering tin has been applied to
the samples with nary a trace.
This is the second time the
government men have denied
the existence of tin in Oregon.
However, others are persistent
in asserting that tin and plenty
of it is available if the right
method Is applied; they assert
that the government has failed
to use the correct system. Be
cause of the importance of tin
in national defense and its
scarcity in the United States the
subject will not be dropped un
til there Is further exploration.
BIG SALMON ME
MAY BE LAST FOR
Five Million Pounds Taken
in Four Days; Fear Power
Dams Will Halt Runs
Astoria, Ore , Sept. 16. (P)
Salmon piles mounted higher In
canneries today as fishermen
continued to haul In what some
said might be the last major
run in the Columbia river.
The catch in four days totaled
5,000,000 pounds, almost half of
the 11.399,134 pounds landed in
the entire season of 1940.
But enriched fishermen warned
that the run was the last
spawned before completion of
Bonneville dam in 1938, which
some claimed barred salmon in
passing to and from upriver
breeding grounds.
Government engineers cited
figures of the past four years
a period that coincides with the
life span of a salmon disclosing
that thousands of Chinook were
using fishways to reach the
spawning grounds. They also
presented sampling statistics as
an Indication young salmon
were getting downstream.
But some fishermen and Ore
gon fish commission members
said there was no conclusive
proof that fingerllngs en route
to sea were escaping ' Bonne
ville's power turbins.
It will take the 1942 fall run
to determine whether the $250,-
000,000 Columbia river salmon
industry will survive construc
tion of the dam, they said.
RAF FEARED LOST
London. Sept. 16. CP) The
British air ministry announced
today that four American volun
teers In the RAF, Including a
member of the American Eagle
squadron, are "missing."
The Eagle Squadron man was
Pilot Officer V. W. Olson of Con
cord, Nebraska, who was said
to be "missing, believed killed
in action." The home towns of
the other three were not given,
but they were identified as fol
lows: Second Aircraftsman E. R.
Jack.
Sergeant E. A. R. Thompson.
Sergeant C. Deges.
Closing tune tos CUssiflea Ads
a m Tx lu tr Classify 13 JO p
Fuel Co.
26 W. Msln
News Behind
The News
By Paul Mallon
(Continued From Page One)
responsibility is to aid the farm
ers, isn't selling government
owned stocks of wheat cotton to
keep the price down. He claims
that farmers have been getting
less than fair prices for so many
years that they are entitled to a
little more than congress has set
as its goal. This goal is 85 per
cent of parity for the major com
modities. Wheat is now about 85
per cent of parity and cotton is
slightly above 100 per cent par
ity. e
TTHERE is some criticism of
Deputy Petroleum Co-ordi-nator
R. K. Davies here which
he might do well to answer if
he doesn't want to get farther in
the doghouse than he is now.
On June 19, at a conference
with representatives of the pe
troleum industry, Mr. Davies
said:
"In appearing before you for
the first time in my role ot dep
uty co-ordinator, I think it may
not be amiss that I express to
you something of the state of
mind with which I undertake
the serious responsibilities of
this office.
"First of all, I should say to
you that I am today a govern
ment employe, serving full
time, upon leave of absence
from my company, granted in
response to the request of the
president. Thus, I have today
but one allegiance an allegi
ance to the national govern
ment and to my superior in that
service, the secretary of the in
terior, the petroleum coordina
tor for national defense.
"This is but a way of saying
to you that I am properly free
to serve from the impartial po
sition of government, and to de
vote myself completely to the
public interest in the present
emergency."
e e e
TTHE fine impression made by
this statement later was di
minished when one of those at
tending the meeting happened to
see a registration statement filed
with the securities and ex
change commission by the
Standard Oil of California, of
which company Mr. Davies was
vice-president. The statement
said:
"To make his services avail
able to the federal government
In the capacity of deputy petro
leum coordinator for national
defense, as requested by Presi
dent Roosevelt, the company
has granted Mr. Davies a leave
of absence with pay ..."
The pay. Incidentally, is over
$57,000 a year, and apparently
Mr. Davis is still getting it.
MOW that the smoke has
4 cleared away after the Hen-
derson-Knudsen showdown on
auto production, it appears that
Henderson came out slightly on
top. President Roosevelt's reor
ganization of defense put Hen
derson completely in charge of
administering non-defense pro-
auction.
Technically, Henderson's civ
ilian allocations division is un
der Knudsen, but actually ha is
more independent than you
would think. For example, he is
announcing his own cuts in auto
production. Knudsen, one of the
greatest liv.ing experts in auto
production, has little to say
about it.
GIANT SALMON FOILS
TWO-HANDED ATTACK
Portland, Sept. 16 VP) A
two-fishermen attack fai'.ed to
slow down a huge Chinook sal
mon heading up the Columbia
river yesterday.
R. Porter Conger, Salem, first
hooked the fish. It started off
with his line, nad its tail was
hooked by Henry Zuger, Waits
burg. Wash. The two pulled
mightily, but the chinook, esti
mated to weigh more than $0
pounds, snapped Zuger's line
and yanked Conger's equipment
from his hands.
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Tribune 10 and 20 jemrs ago
TEN YEARS AGO TODAY
September 16. 1931
(It was Wednesday)
Trans-Pacific fliers, long giv
en up for lost, found alive in
Alaska; Medford pilot dies when
PAT. plane plunges into San
Francisco bay. Ralph Bardwell,
scheduled as a passenger on tha
Ill-fated plane, was unable to
make the trip.
City council delays action on
proposed milk ordinance.
Frank Carideo. famed Notre
Dame star, to wed Mississippi
girl.
Annual term of federal court
to open here October 6:
County court orders Super
visor William Perry to remove
bars from road in south end of
county.
Charlie Chase in "The Panic
Is On" at the Fox Craterian;
Barbara Stanwyck in "Night
Nurse" at the Holly; and 'The
Woman Between" at the Fox
Rial to.
Athletics cinch American
league flag and St. Louis wins
National race.
Probable rain, unsettled fore
cast. High 81, low 47.
TWENTY YEARS AGO TODAY
September 16. 1921
(It was Friday)
Pursuit of Roy Gardner, es
caped mail bandit from McNeills
inland prison ebbs.
Pioneers hold annual meeting
and dedicate log cabin at Ash
land. The next year's meeting
will be held at Jacksonville.
Relations between EnglampJ
and Ireland continue tense, with
no peace in sight.
Kentucky wages war on Ku
Klux Klan.
Few deer killed in county to
date during deer season now
open.
E. C. Faber store In Central
Point robbed last night, and
$500 worth of groceries stolen.
Picking of Jonathan apples to
start next week.
Slightly warmer with a high
of 82, and low of 44 degrees.
Boeing Equipment
Stolen Is Claim
Seattle. Sept 16. (P) Phil
Sands. Boelnc Aircraft eomnnnv. .
told Justice William Hoar today
that construction of bombard
ment planes was being hampered
seriously by workmen taking
tools and equipment from the
plant. He testified at a hearing
in which Charles Eidinger, 24,
3oelng mechanic, pleaded inno
cent to grand larceny of $354
worth of tools and equipment.
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