MEDFORD MAIL TRIBUNE. MEDFOiiD. OREGONFRIDAY. JANUARY 4, 1935.
PAG E FIVE
German Received
Ransom Money in
Cemetery, Claim
(Continued from Page One)
flights over land and sea all ol them
In viiin.
He told of putting 170,000 in' a
email wooden box and of removing
20,000 at the cemetery alter Dr. Con
don told him the ransoming could be
done for $50,000. The box was slight
ly cracked, he said, because of the
bulk of the $50,000.
The doctor got out of the automo
bile at the cemetery, he related, and
returned in from ten to 15 minutes.
Later, he went to Bridgeport, Conn,
hoping to get his child.
He went by car with Dr. Condon,
Colonel Henry Breckinridge and a Mr.
Irey of the internal revenue bureau.
Took To Air
Prom Bridgeport trb party took to
the air In an amphibian plane.
"How long were you in the air in
your plane?" WilecS asked.
"I believe several hours; I haven't
the exact time, but we flew up over
the area described in the note. We
landed up there and spent a consid
erable time looking over the sea har
bors in that vicinity."
The note or which he spoke, he said
had been delivered to Dr. Condon at
St. Raymond's cemetery when the
money was paid.
"What whs the purpose of your
mission in the plane?" he was asked.
"We were looking for the boat de
scribed in the note SVhlch you Just
showed me, and to see if we could
find any location of my son."
"Did you pilot the plane yourself?"
"I did."
Searched for Wont
"And during those hours you
.searched the waters in that vicinity
for the boat that you hopted had your
son In it?"
"That is correct."
"Your search, of course, waft In
vain that time?" Wilentz prompted.
"It was," Lindbergh rei?lied simply.
"You returned then where?"
"I believe we returned to a field, a
landing field near Hempstead, Long
Island, called the Aviation Country
Club."
"Did you make another effort In a
plane to locate the boat that was sup
posed to be the one that you were
looking for?"
"I did later."
"When? The same day?"
"No, It was a day or two after
ward."
And again that search was in
vain?"
"Yea."
Then he landed at Teterboro airport
in New Jersey, tie said, and drove on
to his home in Hopewell "That was
in April, during the early part."
Tells of Henrmj; Voice
The flier's full testimony on the
matter of hearing what he alleged
was Hauptmann's voice, follows:
Q. On the night of April 2nd, 1932
when you were In the vicinity of Sf..
Raymond's cemetery and prior to de
livering the money to Dr. Condon
and you heard a voice hollering "Hey.
Doctor," in some foreign voice, I
think as you referred to It since that
time have you heard the same voice?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. Whose voice was it, colonel,
that you heerd in the vicinity of St.
Raymond's cemetery that night say
ing, "Hey, Doctor?"
A. That was Hauptmann's voice.
Q. You heard It a second time
where?
A. At District Attorney Foley's of
f.ce, in the Bronx,
.fte; telling that thtr serial num
bers of the ransom bills we're recorded
at his request, Lindbergh related he
was called back to Hopewell from one
of his numerous trips on th night of
May 12, 1932.
Saw Baity at Morgue
"Now Colonel," Wllenta asked, "on
that night, somewhere around mid
night, you say you returned to Hope
well; and did you visit a morgue In
Genton?"
"On the following day I did," he
said.
"By tne way." Wilentz went on, "in
March, 1032. when was the last time
you saw Charles A. Lindbergh, Jr.?"
"On the Sunday evening preceding
the first of March. That would be In
February, 1032."
"And from that time on did you
ever me that child alive again?"
"I did not."
"Did you see the child at all
again?"
"I saw the child's body."
"When?"
"On the 13th of May, 1932."
"Sometime slightly after midnight
of May 12th?" f
"Yes."
"And It was your child?"
"It was."
"And you ordered the body cremat
ed, as I understand it?"
"Yes."
Right after this Wilentz said:
"So that you did not get your
money back and did not get your
child?"
"I did not." Lindbergh said.
Star Cross Examination
Colonel Lindbergh squared his
shoulders as he prepared for defence
counsel Reilly's first questions of
cross-examination.
Before asking if he was armed.
Reilly wanted to know if the filer
was a peace officer of the state. He
was not. The court sustained the
state's objection to the question
about being armed, but let It go be
cause the witness "seemed to want to
answer,"
Reilly pressed Lindbergh closely
with questions about hid servants.
"It would be possible for someone
in the house to take the baby out of
Its crib?" he asked.
Betty Gow, listening, hearing her
own name mentioned from time to
time appeared tense, though motion
less. Her fingers quietly clasped her
purse. Her head was turned away
from the witness.
Inside Job Hinted
Reilly was plainly pressing his an
nounced intention ol attempting to
show the kidnaping wat. planned in
side the Lindbergh home, by others
than members of the family.
He wanted to know what investi
gation Lindbergh made of hlB ser
vants before he y.lrea them, and what
Investigation he made of them after
the kidnaping.
The flier said he depended upon
the police for the latter investigation.
He, himself, talked to Ollle Wheat.,
the butler, and Wheatley's wife, be
fore he employed them, he said.
There was laughter in the court
room when Reilly remarked that some
of the police woro not infallable.
Nevertheless, Colonel Lindbergh said:
"1 think we have very good police."
Mrs. Wheutley. a widow now, sat
in the court room. She wept when
Lindbergh related the death of his
former butler.
Itiih.v lino Cold
Colonel Lindbergh said his family
usually spent only the weekends at
Hopewell, but decldeti to remain over
Monday the time the baby was taken
because the baby had a cold.
"Now, how many people knew the
baby had a cold and that the baby
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was going to stay In your house on
Monday?" Reilly asked.
"I doubt that anybody knew that
on Monday," Lindbergh answered,
"because as I recall there was some
question aa to whether my wife mig.it
not come to Englewood on Monday.
I don't believe we knew that our
selves Monday morning as I recall
now."
"So that if the family followed
their usual course that Monday,"
Reilly pressed, "they would have re
turned to Englewood?"
"Well, if you say usual course we
had only been there the house was
newly built and we had been there
only a few weekends so there was no
catahlished precedent as to what our
movements were."
But your movements were In the
knowledge of your butler and your
butler's wife and your nursemaid, is
that correct?"
Nurse I nhifnrmed
"Not completely, no. Miss Gow was
in Englewood that Monday and she
did not know until my wife called
her, I think, I believe Tuesday. That
Is something I can't testify to. what
date my wife called her. I under
stand she didn't know what we were
soing to do until she was called."
"How did you communicate with
your wife that you would not be
home Monday night?"
"I believe that I called her that
evening by phone."
"Did you talk to the butler?"
"He might have answered the
phone, I don't remember that."
"But he would know that you
were not coming home Monday night
after you finished talking to your
wife, wouldn't-, he?"
"He probably would, I can't say
definitely, tout I think probably."
Few New Plans
"Very few people would know that
you were going back to New York
again on Tuesday, would they Colo
nel?" "Very few people know what I do."
"Yes, so that a person on the out
side world or a gang on the outside
world on Tuesday, March the 1st.
would have knowledge as to where
you were?"
"Well, that depends upon their or
ganization." "I couldn't depend upon any in
formation that you gave?"
"Well, not with my knowledge."
No License Prank A. Richards,
Ashland, was arrested by state police
officers yesterday, charged with oper
ating a motor vehicle without an op
erator's license. He Is slated to ap
pear In Judie Roberts' Justice court
In Ashland today.
FITTS BATTLES TO ESCAPE TRIAL
MONDAY 10 TALK
WORK INSURANCE
(Continue from pae on.)
employers present. The plans to be
submitted are as follows:
1 . Contributions from employers.
employees, and state. This plan has
been in force in England since 1911.
3. Contributions fram employer and
the employees. Tills plan closely ap
proximates In its fundamental aspect
the law recommended by an Ohio
commission.
3.' Contributions from the employer
only. Tills plan Is similar to one en
acted In the state or Wisconsin.
4. A proposal for a set up of
federal machinery to supper any
of the three foregoing plans. This
idea has been suggested by groups of
manufacturers throughout the na
tion.
It Is expected that hundreds of
forum luncheons will bp held next
Mo nd a y a nd as a resu 1 1 of t hese
meetings it is the purpose of the
national committee to prepare recom
mendations on the basic principles
Involved that should go Into any
sound state and national unemploy
ment legislation.
Information received by the local
chamber of commerce would indi
cate that the movement to bring
about unemployment insurance is
national in scope end that legisla
tion for same will be urged at the
earliest possible moment.
It is therefore necessary, chamber
of commerce officials point out. t'vat
a large number of employers be pres
ent at the meeting on Monday so
as to hear the four plans so far sug
gested and also in order to. if pos
sible, recommend one tflnn which the
majority of local employers believe
they feel they should support.
At the forum on Monday the four
following spenkrrs will present the
four plans: W. F.- Isaacs, Floyd Hart,
Dr. W. F. Roney and Don Newbury.
Chamber of commerce officials bo
lleve that this is a rather unusual
type of forum luncheon and on ac
count of fact that Its purpose
affects all employers of labor a large
turnout Is expected. Reservations Tor
same should be made Immediately at
the chamber of commerce office.
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District Attorney Buron Fltti of Lot Angelei, Indicted with hie
ilster-eecrctary, Mrs. Berthal Gregory, on perjury charges launched
an attack on the Indictments on the grounds the grand Jury was Il
legally drawn. Fitts (left) In court wlth'two of his attorneys, Gerry
Glesler (center) and Joseph Scott. (Associated Press Photo)
MEETING TONIGHT
Members of the Med ford Shrine
club held their monthly get-together
at the Hotel Medford today, pre
ceding the annual meeting of Hlllah
Temple, which will be held in Ash
land tonight. E. C. "Jerry" Jerome,
entertainingly told the Shrlnera
about the annual East-West gridiron
classic, which was held at San Fran
cIeco on New Year's day, sponsored
by the Shrine for the benefit of the
Shrlner's hospitals for crippled chll
dren. potentate O. O. Alenderfer urg
ed the members of the Medford
Shrine club to attend tonight's meet
ing at Ashland, when the officers for
the coming yoar will be selected, and
installed,
Henry CnrlUc, representative of
the company which will bring an in
door ctr?i!" to Medford soon, tinder
the auspices of the Hillah Patrol,
briefly described the program which
his organization will present at the
Medford armory. This indoor circus
is now playing In Klamath Falls,
under the auspices of the Amntlcan
Legion Drum corps, of that city.
A record turnout is expected for
the annual meeting of southern Ore
gon Shrlnera In Ashland this evening,
and a supper will follow the Impor
tant business session.
C. P. A. Here R-Tv. Stratford, C. P
A. u. -.and Is In Medford for a
few days on business.
IN RULING BY 0. A.
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sioner John A. Bttrneburg. Thi legal
ity of Nealon's appointment was at
tacked at the time, and it whs up
held by the state attorney general.
The Hood River and Jackson county
situations are Identical, causing Dis
trict Attorney Codding to Inquire
Into Its legal phase? today, simply
as a matter of sound policy.
District Attorney Codding In his
opinion holds, that an Oregon law
pissed In 101)8. several years after
the law upon which the Hood River
county ruling was made, provides
that county commissioners elected at
the November geiifnil election, shall
take office In January. Codding holds
the law Is specific upon this point,
and does not permit of any other
interpretation, and takes precedent
over the older law.
Caster, a resident of Phoenix, and
the county for 80 years, was elected
last November over Commissioner"
Nealon by a majority of approximate
ly 450 votes. It was the upset of
the last general election. Caster ran
on the Democratic ticket.
A press dispatch from Hood River
reads as follows:
HOOD RIVER, Jan. 3. iSpl)
P.ecause County Clerk H. F.
Blackman responded to an urge
to delve Into an old volume of
Oregon laws this week, Joe
Smullln, who was elected coun
. ty commissioner on the demo
cratic tlckei last November, will
sit In the bleachers (or the next
six months.
Blackman discovered that the
law provides that county com
missioners, county treasurers and
county surveyors, when newly
elected, shall not take office un
til the July of the year following
their election.
Smullln was on hand yesterday
to take up his duties, but P'i
trlct Attorney Baker ruled that
the law must be observed and
Smullln retired, while the clerk
notified Frank L. Keating, in
cumbent, who was defeated last
fall, to appear and carry on his
duties for the noxt six months.
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