PAGFi FOUR
jMfEDFORD MAHJ TRTBTJNTi), MEDFORD, OKKflON,, M WKSTOAY, JANUARY 18, 1012.
Medford mail Tribune
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KTSrORS, OREOOK.
Melronnlln of Southern Oreiron and
Northern California, ami tho fastest-
Browing city In Orccon.
Population V. 8. ceiisun 1910 8840;
estimated. 191110.000.
Vivo hundred thousand dollar Gravity
Water System complete!. Ktvlnir finest
supply pure mountain water, and 17.3
miles of streets paved.
Postoffieo. receipts for year cndlnc
November 30, 1911, show Increase of 19
per cent.
Banner fruit city In Orejron Ttojruo
Illver SpltsenberR apples won aweep
staltcs prlxo and title of
"Apple Xlujf of the World"
nt the National Apple Show. Spokane,
1909, and a car of Ncwtowns won
rirst rrlte In 1910
at Canadian international Apple Show,
Vancouver. B. C
rirst Mm la 1911
nt Ppokano National Apple Show won
by carload of Ncwtowns.
Rogue nivcr pears brought highest
prices In all markets of tho world dur
ing tho past sis years.
Wrlto Commercial Club. Inclosing 6
cents for postage for tho finest commu
nity pamphlet over published.
INTRODUCES BILL
FORWARDEP'T.
Senator Bouinc introduces Second
Bill Providing for Improvement of
Roads In Crater Lake National
Parfc.
At tlio instance o the war depart
ment, Senator Jonathan Bourne, has
introduced tlio following bill into1
cengress:
A. bill lo authorize tho construc
tion of a road in Crater Lake Na
tional park, Orogon, and to appro
priate !?100,UOO for tho commence
ment thereof.
He it enacted by the potinto and
house of representatives of the United
Slates of America in congress as
sembled, that the sum of $100,000
dollars bo, and is hereby, appropri
ated, to he paid out of any money
in tho treasury not othorwiso appro
priated, to bo immediately available,
anil to he expended umlor tho direc
tion of the secretory of war ami the
supervision of tho chief of engineers,
for the construction of n wagon ronil
and the nccesury bridges through
Crater Lake National park, Oregon,
together with n system of funks and
water supply pipes lo provide for
sprinkling, in accordance with the
recommendations contained in the re
port of the war department published
us house document numbered '.V2S,
Nijtl.v-Heeoml congress, second ses ses
seon: Provided, that i)ts secretary of
jwir may enter into a contract or oon
trnclH for such material and work as
may ho nucossnry to complete the
said project, to ho pnid for ns ap
propriatioiib may from timo to lime
be made by law, not to exceed in the
aggregate .HI07,000 dollars, exclusive
of repairs and maintenance and ol
the amount herein apprepriated: Pro
vided further, Hint the work may,
in the discretion of the socrotnry of
war, ho carried mi by contract or
otherwise, as may bo most econom
ical or advantageous to tho United
State: And provided further, that
sudi sums as inny he liocowmry for
repairs ami maintenance of the said
road, bridges and sprinkling system,
net exceeding $20,000 por annum,
may be expended from tho appropria
tions hereinbefore mado and author
iced. FORTY DROWNED IN
WRECK OE STEAMER
LONDON, Jan. 18. Forty mom
bora of the crow of tho steamer Wln
elow, It was learned today, porlHhed
when that vessol was battered to
pieces hi n torrlflo storm off Potor
Head rocks near tho coast of Scot
land. Pour sullors clung to a por
tion of tho wrockugo and finally wero
roacuod. mfcre dead than nllvo. This
Jh tho vessel which was sighted in
dlstresH off tho coast of Sootland yea-j
torday, but whoso ldontlty at thnt
time could not be learned,
WANTEDLIVE ONES I
IN AN article describing the clovolopmcnot nml opportu
nities of a Rogue river valley town appearing in the
New Year's issue of The Mail Tribune oeeurred tho state
ment that the plneo furnished an opportunity for a live
and progressive banker.
Inasmuch as tho town in question already had a imnic,
the article brought a protest from the banker, who stated
that the bank was an occasional advertiser in The Mail
Tribune, that officers of the bank were also advertisers,
so an explanation was desired, as the article seemed to
show an unfriendly attitude on the parr ot the paper.
Nothing is further from the fact. Tho article in ques
tion was furnished by the commercial club of tho city
affected. Tho club's officials stated that the bank in ques
tion had refused to join the commercial club or subscribe
to the publicity fund, or help the community in its efforts
to develop, hence there really existed an opportunity for
a live and progressive bank.
It seemed to The Mail Tribune that tho point was well
taken. It made no difference whether or not those affect
ed were patrons of. this paper. Jt regards all such imper
sonally. It is tire principle,
at stake.
Any bank or banker, or' for that matter any business
man or property owner, who refuses to help support the
local commercial club, winch represents the organized
effort of tho community to upbuild and develop towi) and
country, cannot be called progressive.
Commercial clubs and members of commercial clubs
will do well to follow the example of tho particular com
mercial club above mentioned, and advertise for new insti
tutions when existing ones refuse cooperation. Those who
refuse to help in upbuilding work are not entitled to share
in the resultant prosperity. There is no reason why com
mercial clubs or their members should assist or patroni.o
those who refuse cooperation although amply able to
financially.
THE REALTY
f OOS BAY panel's seem
V4 much Iippjiiisf vnrk tins Iipimi stniinoil nn tlio nrn-
.iceted raeifie Great n cstern railway from .Lhigene to
Marshfield as because the said announcement "blackened
the eye of Marsht'icld by preventing real estate deals from
being made."
"We also read in the columns of the Marshfield papers
that assaults were threatened upon the person of Engineer
Sumner by real estate speculators because the engineer
announced that he had been ordered to cease work, and
the announcement had caused a loss in boom valuations
advanced overnight.
Coos Bay, like other promising towns, is evidently
cursed with the realty speculator, who, buying on margins,
hopes to get rich quick through the advance in prices due
to tne improvements auti enorts ot otners.
' Just as soon as there seems a prospect of a new rail
road or other developer, these speculators descend like
vultures upon their prey. They really do nothing to de
velop or build tup a community, but succeed usually in caus
ing an inflation of values harmful alike to present and
future. They scare away more capital and citizens than
they attract and any place is better off without them, for
just as soon as the feverish boom pulse they have stiniu
late"d flutters a little they are off with their unearned
increment to new fields and more verdant pastures.
Coos Bay need not worry over spoilt realty deals. The
realty is still there, worth as much as ever. If all the
real estate speculators and most of the curbstone brokers'
pull out, the town will be bettered rather than injured.
A year ago Medford had plenty of these fly-by-night
brokers and speculators several hundred. But one by
one they have "folded their tents like the Arabs and
silently stolen away" and all Medford breathes a sigh
of relief. The city is in better shape than ever, for those
who buy property do so for investment or improvement,
not for speculation profitless to the community.
Our Correspondents
KANES CREEK ITEMS.
Superintendent Henry paid n siit
to the DurtlnuclU school Moiidaj.
Nellie Ktiucbiirg of (Jold Hill, who
has been the guest of .Mix. Mardon
for several days, has rolurncd homo.
Mr. llyrley and sons are doing con
siderable grubbing ami clearing,
which decidedly improves the uppoar
anco of the place.
K. Khoicii ami George Ifiirsliliingcr,
tho "sages" of Kuruoe Creek, wore
renewing old aciuaiutnucs in Gold
Hill Monday.
Mrs. Taylor ami daughter were
Gold Hill visitors on Tuebday.
Mr. and Mrs. MoConohiq of Med
ford, who have been spending tho
past week as the guests of Mr, and
Mrs, Jlotwcholdcr, have returned
home.
Mrs, Swimlen of.OTalls Crook was
a pleasant caller on Katios Crook one
day recently,
Ifcv. Davis did not hold service nt
the school house on Sunday as was
his intention, on account of the fu
neral of the lute Mrs. Hitter, who was
hnried on Sunday at Hock Point.
The dance in Hlackwel! Saturday
night was n most decided success, as
reported by those in nttendance.
Mrs. Avery was visiting in Gold
Hill on tiny recently w'ith her friend,
Mrs. Kolsoy.
News items arc 6earco those days,
ns thero is nothing curious or other
wise to writo about.
llnslilna for hvaUh.
i
not tho personality, that is
SPECULATOR.
to bo in mourning not so
BUTTE FALLS ITEMS.
Attendance at Sunday school and
Christian Hmlcavor are on the in
crease. The mill is putting in new machin
ery mid will be thoroughly equipped
for n large huwinoaK in the spring.
I tut to Falls offers splundid oppor
tunities for shrewd biihiuesw men to
got in on the ground floor and grow
up with the country.
C. E. Powers loft Tuwdiiy for n
brief visit to the metropolis of south
ern Oregon.
Mrs. linker has gone to California
to visit her son, who is in ill health.
She expects to return in March.
Church and school interests are
looking lip. The school has a much
larger attendance than last year. The
congregations are taxing the seating
capacity of the assembly hall.
Hut to Falls is growing.
Several new houses, mostly of Hie
bungalow Ktylc, ore about completed,
milking llutte Falls a udattractive
little burg, Of these wo notice the
dwellings of Mcsrtrs. Maker, Mills,
Stoddard, Harrott, Chinnery, Ohen
cliaiu, Peeler aiidj-'mersou,
O, Adams Ieh'ou Tuesdny for n
visit to his brother; at Central Point.
V. F. Aiidcrhiiifjtf the Hubs mills
is here on business,
CENTRAL POINT ITEMS.
John P. Clark or Dutto Fnlln Is
hero this week on ImibIiiohb.
W, A Hntliawny of Coining, Cl
la In Central Point this week tiaim
acting business.
N. 1). Firestone, of I ho Meadows,
ttpont Tuesday iiIrIiI with hl8 friend,
J. II. Uraeo, on route homo from it
trip to I .oh Angeled nml other south
ern cities.
Mr. nml Mrs. L. Smith of Bllvorton,
Ore., nro visiting U Hatfield mill fan..
My In our elty.
Osonr Hlnokford of Willow Springs
was hero on- business Wednesday.
Mrs. nml Miss liavhlson, Mitt. Hoy
Nichols. Mrs. Unrl llcft, Mr. nml Mr.
.1, P. Itnnglnud, .Mr. nml Mr. Hugh
Porter of Seven Oaks were shopping
here Wednesday afternoon.
Mrs. Duncan, Mrs. Unmlnll, Mr.
nml Mrs. Cooper, Mm. ami Miss Her
ring. Miss liluoktord. K. O. Fabor,
J. W. Myers, P. J. Taylor, l.eo Wat
kins, Mr. Dunton, J. J- Kellertunn,
Art Lewis and I,, Nichols spent
Wednesday afternoon In Medford.
The Hoboknh lode hero held their
annual Installation Tuesday evening.
After Installation a splendid supper
was served and a sociable time was
had by all presont.
Miss Viola Smith spent Tuesday In
Grants Pass.
inpC AlIfllCMPPQ
LntlUL nUultnULU
GREET EVANGELIST
The revival services at the Free
Methodist uhureli. Tiinlh and' Ivy
streets, yc.stunhty afternoon- wero
well attended. The Mibjoet used by
Kvangelisl Whuutlnki' Luke J 1:0,
"A friend of mine in his jonmi'y i
come unto me." First marginal read
ing, "A friend of mine out of hi way,
'lost,' has come to me and I have
nothing to sot before htm. ' A lost
sinner needs Jestn. Church, onli
nance-, rites, ceremomos all full In
meet his diro need. "Only Jesus can
do helpless sinners pood."
At night the church was lilted, ex
tra seats being iwcd. The text wus
Matthew '27C1'2, "What then shall
do with Jesus which N called Christf"
The preacher vividly portrayed the
scenes and cironimtnneos of the text
Pilate's position, responsibility,
perplexity nml failure, the lower ele
ments of his nature prompted by the
Devil prevailed; he went down. The
scene changes. Christ is on the
judgment throne; Pilate is prisoner.
Oh, his failure I Christ is on our
hands. What will we do with him?
Wo cannot nvoij the responsibility,
or evade the ilociou ami its, rcs.nl Is.
Whnt Mill ye do with Jcxus? The in
terest in tlm' meetings is steadily
and rapidly iiirrciiNutg. Three cu'iic
to the altar ami claimed to llml pence
with God. Praise God for salvation!
TRIP 10 APPLEGATE
Dr. K. It. Scely is hack from an
automobile, trip to Applcgato valley
testing the merits of his little Hop
mobile in which hu mnde tho trip.
According to the doctor his will he
the last machine to make the trip, as
tho road is in a frightful condition.
Time after lime the machine mink in
the mud to iu axles ami hail to he
coaxed out. Hut ho made it.
WILL WED MAN JUST
BEFORE HE GOES TO JAIL
LOS AN(IKM-3S, Cal., Jan. 18
Lillian. Polite, iu, and pretty, will be
married tonight to Joseph Chutiik,
who Is umlor nontenco to sorvo two
years In San Qiionlln for lnanHlaugh-tor-
Tho lr applied for a Ilcuse
yostnrday, explaining meanwhile that
if Jno bad not prnpodod nho would
have tikcn th Initiative herself,
"When .loo Mild to mo 'Lillian, will
you marry mo an" I Htand?' I told
him that I wai honored by his pro
posal. He ulriick a man with his fbit
becuiiHO of an Insult, and what red
blooded man could do loss? Wo will
bo married tonight; thon I will watt
for him lo return from Han Qiiontlu."
GIRL HELD PRISONER
FOR OVER TWO YEARS
KVKUETT. W8h., Jan. 18. Aftor
being hold a prlsonor for IX months
In n house, Hi-ycar-old Mary Cartor,
ilaiightor of Mrs. Hotsy Carter, was
roJoaHod today' und tho mother wnH
sent to the liisano asylum, It was
found that during nearly two years
tho girl hud hcon allowed to leave
the houso only four times.
Hasklna for health.
THIS WILL INTEREST MOTHERS
Mothor Gray's Sweet Powdorn foi
Children, a Certain relief for Fovor-
IbIiiioeh, Headache, Dad Stomacn,
Toothing DlHorders, movo and rogu
lato tho Howolu and Doatroy Worms.
They break un colds lu 24 hours.
Thoy aro bo pleasant to tho taato
I'liiuiron iiKe them, uvor iu,vuu
testimonials. Used by Molhorn for 211
years. Thoy never foil. Kolil ny an
DnnselBtH, l'&c:' , ttamnlo mailed
FW-:a. Address. Allen S. Olm" d,
TO OPEN STORE
WITH CONCERT
Palmer Plnuo Plnco to Do Opened
With Willi Class Concert Iiy Enmcs
Orchestra, Assisted hy Mrs. Olah
Chaff co. '
Tho Palmer Piano Pluee, MeiN
lord's luryiwl piano salesroom, will
have its foiuuil opening Suturduy
evening from Ttllt) to II o'clock. The
KamoH orchestra, ustdiitcd hy Mr.
Olah Chaffee, will give the following
IiIkIi class program. Tho public i
eordmllv mvitcd lo attend.
I. Overture, "William Tell". .Koasinl
'-'. Vocal Solo, "Kattute" '
Kllvn Cowcil
Mrs. Olnh Chaffee.
:i. Cello Solo, (it) "Lo Cygne" (The
Sw'iTu") Saint Saens
(h) "To the Kvening Star"
( from TniiMhnusor) . Wagner
W. A. Knim.
I. Duet for Violin nml Cello, "Mis.
ororo" (from II Trovaloie) Verdi
.". Pimm Solo, "P.douiiie (in lv
Major) I.Uxt
Adolph Kmiur.
(I. Violin Solo, ",1c .ills lo pel it
Tumhour" (with vuriutioiis) . .
Ford David
Anna Aubrey Ktiinos,
7. Vocal Solo, "Slave Song"
Teresa Delriego
Mrs. Olah Chaffee.
8. Finale, Selections on the Interior
Player Piano , Selected
V. C. Dcbley. WS
IS
LAID AT REST
Mrs.
Monday
Nettie Thntcher, who died
on train No. l." as it was
Hearing this city, was buried Wednes
day in the I. O. O. F. cemHory, mem
bers of the Masonic order attending
the funeral. Floral piece were sent
hy tho local Masonic lodge ami by the
I'astem Star, Messrs. .Midler, Mof
fat, Summerville, Peel, Kershaw nml
Lawrence acted ns psllbcarcr. Hev.
Shields officiated.
Juniors to Meet.
The Junior association oT the
Greater Medford club will uiecl
Thursday evening, January 18, at
7'M) o'clock, nt the home of Mrs. lv.
S. Parsons. Iiu(Mirlant business is to
bo considered.
NOTICH TO .MINK OWNKHS.
All persons who nro desirous of
securing spaco In tho Medford Mining
Jubllco Uook on tho minora! resourc
es of southern Oregon and northern
California, to bo Issued Foby. 1, 1912,
should Immediately call upon or nd
drosa C. V. Patterson or Guy T.
Thrashor, Nash hotol, Medford, Oro,
INVITATIONS AUK OUT.
Von aro Invited to nttoud tho high
clnwi coucort to be given Saturday
evening, free to tho public, from 7:. '10
until 9 o'clock nt Palmer's Piano
Place, fieo program on another pagol
Do You Know the Con
dition ol' tho Title lo
Your J'roperty'f"
Aro you sure that thero arc' no
unsatisfied Jmlgiuenta against
sonio formor owner no unpaid
assessments- no unpaid taxeii
no court proceedings missed?
You can't bo Hiiro unless In
former traimforH
Abstracts
That Are
Absolutely
Reliable
woro lined lu each transfer.
Hotter ascortalu tho condition
of your tltlo now, Then If you
should want to soil or borrow
monoy, you'll know whoro you
Htand.
Jackson County
Abstract Company
Corner fltli and 1'Jr Hts,
North Mall Trlbuno nidg,
Medford, ,prcgon
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I
You'll Uphold My Glasses
oso
Am
If vou t-y them once you will find
out that thoy nvo Just mi repre
sented accurately adjusted to fit
your tdKUt and to relievo all strain
on tho vision. My work Is hlnhly
satisfactory,
Dr. Rickert
Over Kentner's
WOOD
COAL
ANY QPANTITV
BURBIDGE FUEL &
TRANSFER CO.
HOTII PHONICS
Valley
Second Hand Store
Wo Iluy and Hell All Kinds of Kecoml
Hand (loodn
M. J. PILCHER, Prop.
15 North Fir
Home iUit Hell :tl)7U
REAL ESTATE
Willamette Valley Farms
of all descriptions,
Garden ami Fruit Lands, Timber
Lands.
Some excellent bargain in AL
MANY CITY PHOPF.KTY,
Write or call on
J. V. PIPE,
S0.1 UVM Second St.. Alhanv. Oi..
Game Boards
Also full line of
Games
all seasons
Medford
Book Store
Medford Real Estate
& Employment Agency
POli HAIjK:
ri-rnotu.hungnlow with sumo
furniture, clone Iu, $2200.
!l lota lu WuHUiiorulaml add,,
tr.rio.
!) ncrca Improved 1! mllen out,
only $7ri00,
Half Intermit iu lunch counter
S200,
119 aenm Improved, $l-T por aero.
100 ncrcH Hi iiiIIom out, $ 1C0
por ucro.
TltADK
10 acres uoar Central Point for
houso In city,
MIHUKIiTiANKOUS
Want from owner, acroago to
trade for I.on A'KoIoh property.
All liltnls of tradon In California,
IlorsoH for nalo. .
Furnished houses for rout.
Vacant houses In all partti of tho
city for rout.
List your property with us,
KMPIXmiKNTjl
Woman to cook on a ranch.
Girls for gouornl homiowork,
E. F. A, BITTNER
ROOMS 6 AND 7, PALM BLOCK
Opposite Nash Hotol
Phone 4111 j Home, II,
WHEE TO GO I
TONIGHT
T II E AIRE
TONIC.1IT
TIIK OIIAIIAMH NOVHIiTV
(illCl'S APT
PiMltlvelv a feat u 10. CoiihIhIm of
forlv rats, cut a ami dons, wnutt
thliiK very dlffeicat from usual
run of vaudeville.
TOM HTOt'lC.MAN
lllaclifiu-o Comedian nml IMnJolst.
Featuilux his hniijo JumkHhr.
Three iceN of tlio bctt pictures
lu timu alwajs on luuid-Ono feiu
litre Film.
Special Matlueo Satontajn anil
Sumliiyn nt '-It 00
l!enlng IVrformauro at 7:00
STAR
THEATRE
Under direction of Peopled Anumo
incut Company
AMVAYf-IN TIIK I.KAO
1000 feet of Matehlex Pllni IIMIO
TOOAV'S PltOOIttXM
"HAN, TIIK I.IOIITIKH'SK
KKItPKIt"
Dramatic Htory of Dttad Mau'n
Ulnud.
"TiiK citorrii cniii"
Frc Cnnimly,
"CAIN ANII AIIKI."
Illbllcal Hiectacl', which cannot
fall to command tho approval of
everyone,
"WHO OWNS TIIK ItAllV"
lllxh Ctitwi Comic.
"TIIK POLITICIAN'S
IHIKAM"
ltlp HiMrlug Comedy.
Ah SATIlim
Singing "When tho Autumn
I .on vert Aro Kalllnic."
Voiir Oh ii (JimmI .Inilginent Will
Aekuim ledge Our SiiwrIorlly In
Kery lti'Hx"ct
AiIiiiIxmIoii IOc. .Matlueo ctcry day
NoyesS Black
HOl'KIC ANII SJON PA1NTINO
UP'tO'Oato Auto and Carrlngo
Painting, Cold I.iwf 8lnu and
Interior Decorating n Hpttclnlty.
Shop nml Office
S. Ornpo ami llltli St.
Offlro Phono 7771. Hon, 7112.
All Work PoHltlvoly (jimrautewl.
TUSCAN SPRINGS
flnvlug no equal on earth lu variety ot
mineral watorri and curing dlHeiimm
Hint medlclucH will not reach, If you
aro In need of health, como now. Wo
aro open all tho year ami can kIvo tlio
hoHt of care and attention now iih well
nn lu Hummer. HImk" dally from lied
Hluff to tho piiIhi;h. Further pur.
tlculnru addrenn
E. B. WALBRIDGE
TUSCAN SPHINOS. OAli.
Wanted-To Trade
A flue piano for a nice driving
team, weight 1250 Mm. Will pay
caHli dlfferenco.
Wo hamllo Kuabo, Sterling,
Helming, Mcl'hall, I -a Faniuo, ami
many others.
Call at
IIAIiK'S PIANO IIOUSK
N Cor. 10th anil Oahdato
Draperies
V' mrrv a viy emriilcli. )itu
of ilnirliH. inn- iMirinhiH, rix
tun n, ele , mill ilu all eliu.Mi m of
UllnilHt''l'llU,' l"lllll til 11 it lo
look iifti r UiIh worh i xi-iuHiwly
mill Will l!ll CM UOIIlt Ullill'll HH
IM IIOMhllllc 10 K t 10 I Vl II till!
Iar( Hi I'ltlrti
WEEKS & NgGOWAN CO.
IF YOU OWN
A LOT
Wo will liuilil you n homo on
monthly payments.
MEDFORD REALTY AND IM
PROVEMENT COMPANY
M, F, ami II, Co, Bulltiliill
A
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mi irnirtijuiiiiinwni . i
Lo Hoy, N, y,