t •'w » '• HMM ÍífcWBí • v » ¿jr > X * % l » #•’ w • r - “GO YE, THEREFORE, TEACH ALL NATIONS.” .• V » MONMOUTH, OREGON ; FRIDAY, AUGUST 27, 1880. VOL. X. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ raoldBLo C hristian messenger , Devoted to the cause of Primitive Christi­ anity, and the diffusion of general in- * formation. Price Per Year, in Advance, All business letters should be addressed to T. F.' Campbell, Editor, or Mary Stump, Publisher,.Monmouth, Oregon. Advertisers will find this one of the best mediums on the Pacific Coast for making their business known. BATES OF ADVERTISING Sptxte 1 1’W’I $1 2 H Col............ 4 H Col............ 7 H Col............ |U2 1 Col............... 4 00 50 00 OS 00 IM $2 50 4 00 7 00 12 90 oO on TM 1 $4 7 12 20 35 òli 1 1 Yr (HI $7 00 $12 IH> 20 00 00 12 00 35 00 00 20 00 65 00 00 35 00 00 .65 00 120 00 Notice« in local oolumna 10 cent« per line for each Insertion. Yearly advertisement« on liberal terms. Profeeaional Cards (1 square) $12 per annum. Hr. T. G. TMVKIMil I» onr .Mtvrrrtrtnw Agent in Portland. Entered «< the Poet Office at Monmouth « h .Moot«! clam matter. ,. From Bro. Jajnes M. Mathes. B edford , I nd ., July 27, 1880. T. F. Campbell: - D ear B rother ,—You have laid me- under many special obligations by giving the.Li*e of Eld. E. Goo^Lwin such a good notice in the M essenger of 16th inst. I thank' you for the copy of the M essenger you sent me. Your M essenger is a good paper, and true to the cause we advocate. It is a sound paper. I was much inter­ ested in reading the proceedings of your Sunday School Conventions in this number And I see that my oid brother, T. K. Dibble, who was a citizen of Indiana at one time, and afterwards of Missouri, is among you, doing battle for our Master as in days •of yore. The Lord bless him. And I also see among the honored names of your veteran soldiers, the name of my old time friend and fel- low-laborer, Eld. John M. Harris, He and I were fellow-workers in our pioneer days in Indiana. I think he is a few years older than I, and was a youn^ preacher when I joined the church, in Qct, 1828, 2nd Lord’s day. I was immersed on that day, and on the next Wednesday night, at the prayer meeting, I made a public ad­ dress to the brethren and sisters, nearly 52 years ago. He and I met at a general cooperation meeting in 1831, at the house, of James McCollough, near Crawfordsville, Ind., and there I preached my first discourse from home, in the presence of Bros. John M. Harris, Michael Combs, Andrew Tuattin and James R. Ross, all the preachers present on that occasion, hence-passed over the river, so far as I remember, except myself, Bros. J. M. Harris, Wm. Wilson (the blind preach­ er), and perhaps Bro. Ross. Old Bro. James McCollough, at whose house the meeting was held, was the father of our beloved Bro. Jas. H. McCol­ lough, our efficient evangelist. We had but few churches and preachers in Indiana then, and only a few meeting houses. Our preaching ■was done mostly in private houses, bams and in the groves. We did not ■wait to be invited to hold a protracted meeting, and by correspondence ascer­ tain how much compensation we were going to receive for holding the meet­ ing. The great question with us then was, Where can we get to hold a meeting? In what school house will they let us preach ? Will farmer A. permit us to hold a meeting in his new bam ? Will farmer B. consent for us to stand under the shady boughs of the sugar maple, near the creek, on his land, and proclaim the unsearchable riches of Christ ? These were the great questions then. ter and invariably pay at the time of their patients to some other praction- shrink from doing so; but I do like But times have changed. From a buying. ers ? Any clergyman who in whnt of people to be sensible and logical/And Then, there fire the texts: “ The a parish himself, recommends for a de­ there is neither sense or logic isrivn,-.. small band we have become a great multitude. In ' Indiana alone we. powers that be are ordained of God. sirable situation some other candidate? sisting that one Scripture command number rnear 100,000 disciples. Whoever reSisteth the ^powers shall The usual following of this text is : shall be followed literally, while allow- Churches now are seen in> almost receive unto themselves damnation.” " Let jio man seek another’s but every ing that many others are not to be. every town, village and city, from This is a plain language; yet those rfian his own wealth.” We find A curious part of this matter is that Lake Michigan on the north, to the who insist most earnestly on a literal no rule more forcibly enjoined than the command thus insisted on is one beautiful Ohio on the south. We now interpretation of Scripture would not that of the subjection of* wives with which, man has nothing to do. have perhaps 100 efficient. preachers, think it right to sin in obedience to to husbands. The command in regard There is no call* for his interference. ’when we had but one in 1831. The the powers that be, The accepted to this, is given over and over and The word “ let ” is Used here in a gen- churches all over the land are able, meaning of the text is: Oljey the pow­ over, and always clearly. “ Wives, . eral sense, as in many other cases : and in many cases they are willing to- ers that be when their commands do submit yourselves unto your husbands i “ Let him that is on the house-top not — sustain the faithful evangelists in not conflict with the voice of consci­ in everything.” “Submit yourselves i come down,” “ Let him that thirsteth their work, and it is their duty to do ence. unto your husbands as unto the Lord.” come.” The command concerns wo- “ Sell all that ye have and give “ As the Church is subject to Christ- ■ .men only, and its interpretation rests it liberally. ~ ■ - Blit, as I have said, our pioneers alms," is a ptaitf command.' For every so let the- wives be to their husbands i with her. Why should man step in are nearly all gone. - A few of us are body.to’-follow it is impossible, since, in everything." Plain, forcible, com­ * between her and her creator ? or even “ waiting till the shadows are a little if property is sold, somebody must prehensive; yet your minister toli ' ■ between. her ancLPaul ? Surely if her longer grown.” In Indiana, Bros. buy, and for the head of a family to you that these commands are n de­ Bro. John M. Harris, Bro. Dibble, and ' and laziness find support. The best . er’swho hold fast by “ all that they cide for her; ■ may prefer that he > all the dear brethren and sisters on and wisest in thè land practice this ■ have,” qnd try to get more ; who sue should; may insist that he should; the Pacific slope. I am now in my • text as if it were written : “ Do not | at, law the person who “ taketh away i but when it comes to authorityr that [their] goods,” arid seldonrgive to any ■ of her own rta- n and-conscience J J 73rd year, but I am not superanuated, give to every man that asketh.” but able for duty yet. “ Of him that taketh away thy man that asketh;” and take so much supreme.— Independent. 'r . Fraternally, goods ask them not again.” But reli­ thought for their lives as to make the I How to get GoQd Tomatoes. J ames M. M athes . gious people do not hesitate insist accumulation of property an absorbing ' upon the restoration of goods of which aim ; who “ owe many men and pay .Supposing that the plants arc "well- , Miss Ellsworth’s Letter to Lucin­ they have been unjustly deprived. reluctantly; who would blame th^ grown, we will begin to stimulate arid woman who obeyed her husband to do da. Their usual interpretation of the text repress. Water every third day with jt_ seems to Jae: ‘1 If any man taketh wickedly—these same men, having good, rich liquid manure, all through BY MRS. A. M. DIAZ. away thy goods, compel him to restore : walked straight through, or gone the season. This Av ill produce an enor­ them and punish him for taking ' around, or jumped over the texts quot- mous growth of new shoots and close Jfj/ Dear Lucinda: I ed, find their way completely blocked foliage, and enable the. plant to hear You ask what I think about the .them.” ' by this one of Corinthians xiv, 34, and well, Nip off* three-fourths of these « Take no thought for your life texts of Scripture which would place what ye shall eat, nor for your body say : nowF, here ■ is something- which I shoot's, leaving those which bear the women under subjection to men, “ and what ye shall put on. ” The much- can neither be walked through, nor most flower-buds ; tie the long, heavy especially about that one which for­ abused tramps are about the only gone around, nor jumped over. “ Let stems up to laths stuck into the bids women to speak in churches.” ones among us who follqw out this geur^ women keep silence in the ground, exposing the fruit to the full In such matters we naturally look command to the letter: Pious men, church." This means exactly what it sun; mulch heavily all around the for guidance to our religious teachers I church members, ministers do “ take says, and must be strictly followed. and members of religious bodies. There main stem for three feet, and thin out thought ” for these things, and seek If a woman should ask why must •the fruit where it grows too closely. is something curious in the way these I seem to regard the particular texts you salaries to prevent a lack of them. this be taken literally, and those not ? This thinning out requires an amount speak of. The same Paul who forbids Some say the command means “ take they can offer no other reason than be­ of moral courage which few amateurs women to speak in the church said: no anxious thought;” but if your cause we think Iw. If the woman possess. The fear of not having “I suffer not a woman to teach.” Yet minister were deprived of his parish says, My reason and conscience do not enough tomatoes is a dreadful feeling; religious people employ women teach­ he could hardly help taking anxious tell me to interpret and follow this but, when we once learn that a few ers. The text may be said to mean thought for the feeding and clothing text literally, they answer virtually:- splendid large fruits are infinitely bet­ that women must not teach adults, es­ of his family, and in these times of Your reason and conscience can guide ter in every way than a great many pecially adult men. But even thus failures and shrinkages and embezzle­ you in the interpretation of any other small, ill-shapen ones, we learn to explained, it is set aside by prominent ments almost any persons having fam­ text; but here you must lay these look upon the excess as enemies to religious leaders, who in conducting ilies depending upon them must some­ aside and be guided by outb . We the plant, exactly as we view the evening schools for adults of both sex­ times take thought and anxious think this text phould be interpreted great green wqrms, and then our es, include women among the teachers .thought, and the strictest religionist literacy, and you must accept our courage comes. employed. They would smile at the would not condemn this anxious opinion. If she asks, why should 1 Now for seed for next season. accept your opinion,? the answer can More moral courage and a repression idea of taking the text literally. Your thought. own fiiinister, if wishing information *’ Let no man Sfeek his own, but every only be : Because we think that in of that curious longing for the first on some point in astronomy, would man another's wealth.” Do you know this case you ought to. If asked, why fruits which all amateurs experience think it right to ask itof Maria Mitch­ any religious persons who obey this must we do in this case as-you think must govern us, or our seed for next ell. He would not ask it of you; and rule ? ' Do you know any religious we ought to ? the answer can only be: year Will produce later and weaker if his question related to zoology, he shopkeeper who asks his customers to Because we think that in this case plants. Select the earliest fine toma­ would not probably put it to Maria trade at the shop over the way, rather you ought to do as we think you to ; cut off every other one from the Mitchell. The accepted meaning of than at his own ? Any religious shoe­ ought to. They can bring noMrigher same cluster; tie loosely around its this text seems to be, then that woman maker who entreats people to get their authority, for they have already al­ stem a white string as as a mark and must not teach unless she is better in­ shoes at another shoe-store ? Any reli­ lowed that the texts making woman grow that particular fruit as if all gious merchant who hastens to tell his subject to tnyi are not to be followed your future enjoyment of tomatoes formed than those to be taught. conscience tells her other- depended upon it; as it really does. We find other texts of Scripture fellow-merchants the secret news he when her z •* wise. has received of a riso in the price of which are not taken literally by reli-. When dead-ripe on the vine, pick it I ought to say here that I have my­ and at once wash out the seeds and gious leaders. Paul said ; " Owe no goods ? Any religious lawyers and man anything.” Not many even of physicians who, in obedience to the self no desire to speak in the chfireh jry thnn’ln the shade’-Jk^Z ew the stricter sort, obey this to the.let- oomgumd, turn over their cleints or or • in any public place—I should Yorker. I 4 - >