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dozen or more ministers.of no mean not a word about laying on hands. the gift of God that was in him tween things that differ.
ability. • Jt is a duty we owe our Luke 6: 13, Ky., “ Chose twelve, by the putting on of my hands. apostles told the church what sort
selves, the cause we plead, and the which he named apostles;” Gen, But where did Paul get his apostolic of men to choose, and they chose
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chose twelve,which he
these and ourselves in particular, apostles.” Here now is twelve at Antioch, I will wait till some of whom it is said he apostatized
as we may hope to claim the atten apostles .ordained, no laying on body can tell me better. We never and taught doctrines that God
tion of the ..people. Trusting that | bands about it. Aiid in the ordi- find Paul working miracles before hated. Some say the seven were-,
all may come full of the Christ- nation of Mathias, no laying on that, and' we do find’ him working set be fore-the twelve for examina
spirit, and with no sectarian bitter hands. Acts 15, Ky. The church miracles soon" after, when, on one tion. If so how was it that somo
ness,, I shall endeavor to do all in at Antioch determines to send men occasion, the people exclaimed, one of them that was gifted with
iny power to. make our meeting a up to Jerusalem, and at Jerusalem “ The gods are come down ih the Tteservmg -rrf- spirits- did not.. sctr
they ordained for) determined the likeness of men.” Now friend G. what Nicolas was? But in the
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matter. 1 Cor. 7 : 17, “ As God has 1\1. W. we can see that the term present time who is any better
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called every one sq let him walk, ordain is one thing, and the im- qualified to fill an office in the
church after laying on hands than
THE AN AMORPHOSÏS.
T in-. gH-climcliesT
Now we have both mefrand things thing, and the process in each act before ? None, none. Then why
ordained or determined, not a word is quite different; and to confound go through an unmeaning and
the two things, and call the con empty form ?
I find in the C hristian H erald about laying on hands. Now we fused mass all ordain is shocking.
Now turn to 1 Corinthians and
of July Cth of the current year, an will view the picture from another So in the other case, to confound twelfth chapter, commencing 12th
article written by G. M. Whitney, standpoint. We find in the 51st the term Holy Ghost and the en at the- 4th verse. Road closely.
a few extracts of which I design to Psalm, King David says, “ Take not dowment, or endowing with gifts, 4th verse, “ diversities of gifts
thy Holy Spirit from inc.” Luke
and call it all Holy Ghost, is 5th, “ differences of administra
1. On page 5, he says, “ These says, first chapter, Elizabeth was equally delusive. We must call tion 6th, “ and there are diversi -
churches had each one its own full of the Holy Ghost, and that things by the right name, and take ties of operations;” 7th, “but the
who had been selected and Zechariah was full of the Holy
Pfttd-s ad vice —to—Tiaaothyv. and ..manife.s.tatiQn -of. thespirit... (gift)..... is.
ordained- by fasting, and prayers, Ghost, “and John was full "bf the
“ rightly divide the word of truth,” giverf to every man to profit” 8th,
and laying on of hands, of the Holy Ghost_from his birth. John
otherwise we will stir up more fog “one gifted with wisdom, to
ministers or evangelist; on this 7; 38, 39, is made to'say, “The
another knowledge; 9th, to an-
than we can settle.
point hinges all my argument for Holy Ghost was not yet given, be-
Now let us examine one more | other the gift of healing.
the high authority of the church.” cause, that Jesus was not yet glori
dispute between case. Paul found at Ephesus a few I understand that these gifts were
Again, he says, " But the objector fied.” Here is
transferred in different ways, and
cannot see that ordination can be John and Luke and David. What disciples "that knew only John’s they operated differently.
of any benefit; he thinks he can is to be done with John for saying baptism, and when they were bap
I will now leave the subject for
act as bishop er deacon as well by the Holy Ghost was not, and could tized in the name of the Lord
an agreement with the church as by not be given, till Jesus was glorT- Jesus Tie "laid“ hTs 'fiands ' on th em
M acky W. S mith .
Now, friend fied ? Shall we call a moot court and they spake with tongues. Now
Whitney, as to church government to try the question ? Something shall we say that laying on hands
I readily admit its utility and di must be done, it will not do for is a part of baptism because the two
vine authority, and.I also admit the these old saints to dispute in this acts took place at the same time ?
importance of ordination; and I way. Come around, friends, and Under John’s ministry there was
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would be blind indeed, if I could view the Anamorphosis from the no laying on hands. Why ? Just
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not see that there must be an
At my last meeting near Island
agreement between the church and
city I immersed one lady. At my
its officers, and I think that if a
last appointment at the Christian
man should be so vain as to rise up
Chapel, we had one accession by
in church and aim to assume the
relation, and at my last meeting at
authority of governing without the
Elkfiat one lady made the good
consent of the body, he certainly
confession to be immersed at their
would be called to order, and be<r
asked to take his seat. But if the
church should make choice of A or
Your Bro. in Christ,
B, and by unanimous consent make
J. M. J ones .
it known to him, and he is willing necessary qualification for their but I here say there was ordaining
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to accept, I ask in the name of work, “ He assended upon high under John’s ministry. The twelve
Bible sense, what more is necessary and thus he gave gifts unto men.” apostles were ordained, and also
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to constitute his right to act the At the house of Cornelius the en Mathias. But why go to the sixth
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part of elder in that church organ
ization ? But the meaning that
Last week we closed a very in
friend Whitney applies to the term first. Now we hear Peter say in But what did they do ? They
ordain (if I understand him, and I his first epistle 4: 10, “ Let every chose, or ordained seven, either by teresting meeting at Willisburg.
think I do,) I think is entirely out man as he hath received the gift, mutual consent, or by election, and Eighteen persons were added to th»
of place. *’ Now, I affirm, that, in minister the same one to another.” set them before the apostles, and church. Nine were baptized, six
the New Testament use of the term How will we do that Peter ? Just I when they had prayed, they laid restored, and three were by com
ordain, it is to determine. Now I as I did in Samaria, in the presence | their hands on them, nothing said mendation. Within three years
have two translations, and I will of Simon, when he thought the gift : about fasting. But why did they we have preached at that place five
put Gen. for the Gneva, and Ky. of God could be purchased with | lay bawls on them if it was not to weeks, and one hundred and
for King James. Ky., Mark 3 : 13, money. One more witness. Paul | qualify them with necessary gifts twenty-one persons have been
ordain; Gen., appoint. Here*we how do you impart spiritual gifts ? to carry out the new undertaking ? added to the church.
Jiave twelve apostles ordained, and Just like I imparted tv Timothy ‘ We must learn to distinguish be-
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