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ren of Seattle wisely had an eye other able writers were discussing disregard the teaching of the New sion to do what Paul says they are
not allowed to do, in the churches.
single to this fact in selecting jtheir the same important question. Testament and the practice of the This statement of Paul’s is not an
lot. Their house is neitheir large About that time the following primitive churches in reference to accident or error; it is not an iso
Awb is said to be one editorial note appeared in our this matter, or to deter true men lated remark of his on this subject;
xif (Lui from jlacing the subject in nor is it an obscura» or equivocal
of the neatest intlie city and will neighbof^CIie TcWWi! OA umj A News.-
its proper light before theTpeopTy" statement^
meet all present demands, and is so
Some of our exchanges are dis Until the subject becomes ' too of moment, at the translation. At
constructed as to have additions ctiming the old hackneyed theme
the thirtyfifth verse, he says, “ For
built to it as soon as practicable. of Women speaking in the Church. “ hackneyed ” for the apostle Paul it is shameful for a woman to speak
It is astonishing how terribly to 'handle, we shall feel proud of
i - Its size is 28 by 44, and has a seat scared some people are that women our company. The idea that any in church."
Now wether a “ man can prevent
ing capacity of about 200. The lot will exercise some privilages that
one desires to prohibit women from a woman from speaking ” in the
was n donationone ai-ti*-**^
■B p r whini'1 »¡O i|. l .y. Uuinii -n-i-Lay <lrp -church or not, is a matter of no great
gtegation, Bro. Denny, and the cussion of this question, it seems to
women, is too crude to require concern to me ;' but it IsOKttfcruf
3 house was built at a cost of about us, c?n resulUin no good. Our ex
more than a passing mention. It deep concern to me that, as it seems,
$1200. The brethren have managed perience is that no man can prevent
Go<l is not able to stop or suppress
a woman from speaking that wants is because of the reverence we have this woman-speaking mania in the
to pay the entire cost of building
*4 .to. and no man can make her speak for the Word of God that we de- churches. Whenever the charm of
with the exception of pefhaps$400, if she don’t wantToT We read ’thatr
^sire to follow it, not in preventing" a sTi f L. plaintive.. wUmmming ,, deli-
which debt they hope to settle in a “ in Christ Jesus, there is neither
women from speaking, but to have cate female voice in the church is of
short time. Bro. Bruce Wolverton Jew nor Greek; bond nor free;
them both speak and work at the more force—has more head and
has been employed to preach for male nor female, but all one in
heart logic—over the “lords,” or
right time and in the. riqht plaee. ladies either, of creation, than the
the church or\e half of his time and when it comes to hard work ; there
But the following to an exchange word of God has, the outlook in that
will enter upon his work on the 2d women may and do take the lead
written by Bro. L. B. Wilkes, of quarter is not hopeful for the church
Lord’s day in this month, at which often, but when it comes to speak
California, who stands head and of God. This error of which we
time the house will be formally dedi- Ing a tender word to her bretbwm
cated. While it will require a strong aiul exhorting theuf to good works; .
c ,i . a. . ■
i _ unum. In the same nest is hatched
when it comes to lifting up her brethren of that State in scholar a large brood of errors, all having
and constant effort on the part of soul in prayer in the'presence of
ship and Biblical knowledge, so for their differential attribute a “ I
the brethren to build up a flourijh- . her brethren^ though her wrfrds
fitly speaks our sentiments on this don’t care ” manner of dealing with
ing congregation, yet we think the may be as the burning coals TrouT
subject that we take pleasureDn“ TÎTë"Wrd of Godr-A nwm-once tried
outlook is very encouraging. The the. altar of God, and her petition
giving it to our readers; He says : to convince a woman, who had got
brethren are at peace among them as sweet incense that is pleasing in
religion, that her view of Bible
is a xvoman,
teaching was wrong, and so he pro
selves, are very hopeful and zealous, it ifiUSt. Trot be permitted. The
find an article from the pen of some ceeded to quote what Peter says.
and indeed we see no reason why “.Lords of Creation ” must exercise graceful writer, on what he calls
they should not move right on to these exclusive rights and privil “the old hackneyed theme of wo “She answered : “ I don’t care what
Peter says ; I ‘ recon ’ I’ve tried‘it.”
victory. We expect to hear good eges. We talk about Scripture man speaking in the church.” He So Mr. Beecher replied when asked
contradictions. If Paul taught the says: “It is astonishing how ter for his authority for infant baptism.
reports from this church.
___ We made our headquarters in the proscriptive doctrine in reference ribly scared some people are that He said : 1 have no authority, in the
pleasant home of Bro. Benedict, and ■ to women, as it is claimed by-aome, women will exercise soine privileges Bible, for infant baptism ; but I
then, indeed, we have a teaching that don’t belong to them.” * * *
it is only necessary to state that froni an inspired apostle, that is not Again the brother says: “Oar ex have some better than that ;~T hâV©
Bro. and Sister Benedict know how only opposed to other plain passages, perience is, that no man can pevent tried it, and find that it works well.
So, his idea of what works well
to make a preacher and his wife feel but to 'the whole spirit and genius a woman from speaking that wants supplies all the omissions of the Bi
to, and no man can make her speak ble, and suppresses all the objec-
happy and enjoy life. We also of the Christian institution.
“ broke bread from house to house ”
We saw this note, which was if she don’t want to.” The brother’s tional features of that book made
with other sisters and brethren dur evidently intended partly for our experience is, I would suppose, of by Him whose foolishness is wiser
but small account in the discussion
L. B. W.
ing our stay, among whom we men benefit, soon after its publication; of this question. With the speak than men.
tion Bros. Osborn, Littell, Me but thought it demanded no serious ers an<L writers of the Christian
Selections and Comments.
Donald and Denny. Bro. J. W. Os attention from anyonfi. We now Church the rule, that we speak
born is one of the first members give it not because of any argument where and as the Bible speaks, and
O n ' P robation .—The .Pacific
are silent where the Bible is silent,
' who came to the city and be has it contains, but as a sample from needs not to be reargued now. In Christian Advocate says:
■aken a very active part in collect some writers on that side of the sectarin churches, where men make - Rev. S. Mathew has just closed a
ing the members together and or- question who too often manifest a the rules, it may be sound doctrine protracted „meeting at Rooster Rock
Kpmizing them into a church as fast greater desire to exercise their own for women to speak in the church. of more than four weeks continu
fas they have moved in and could opinion altout the matter and allow But in the Church of Christ, where ance. Sixteen united with the M.
ibe found. Our week’s visit at Seat the women to do as they please, the voice of Gori decides all ques E. Church on probation. The most
tions, and the voice of strangers is of them were truly converted and
tle was a very pleasant one indeed, rather than follow the plain teach not heard, it is not so. 1 am aware the most of them were heads of
and one long to be rememBed by ing of the divine Spirit. According that some good ami prominent families. He baptized and organ
us, for in such cheery company as to the opinion of our “ experienced’’ brethren in the Christian Church ized them into a class and set them
that of sister Littell, and other like brother it is now in place for Bros. think that women may, of rights, to work.
speak in the church; but so Paul
“ Then they that gladly received
congenial spirits, it'is hard to see McGarvey, Johnson,
Garrison, did not hold, if I understand him.
his word were baptized; and the
how it could be otherwise. We are Bruner and other able writers to 1 Cor. xiv: 34.
find er obligation to them all for close their investigation of this
Paul says, “Let the women keep same day there were added unto
their Christian kindness and liber “ old hackneyed theme,” because it silence in the churches, for it is not them about three thousand souls.”
ality to us, and we hope at some “can result in no good,” and the permitted them to speak,” etc. The Acts. 2 : 41. Did these unite with
ture time to be priveliged to meet brother’s experience is that no man writer of the article referred to is the M. E. Church on probation ?
requested to look at this statement
¡gain with these good brethren.
can prevent a woman from speak of Paul’s, and see if it is not in the
T he F orce of E xample .—The
ing that wants to, and no man can flattest and severest kind of conflict
WOMEN IN THE CHURCH. make her speak if she don’t want with what he wrote in the article A. C. lie view gives us this note on
alluded to. If it shall be said that the force of example:
A few weeks ago we had occasion to 1” We thank God, however, that this text may be explained, my re
Two ministers, meeting in a
to write two articles on “ Woman’s the time has come that something ply is, yes, it may be explained; but country store a young man recently
Work in the Church." The editor more than a little ridicule is re no explanation is a correct one married, asked him to treat to
the Christian-Evangelist with quired to induce all Christians to which leaves womcm full permis cigars, which he did, and the min«