Smoke Signals ' June 1991 page 9 The Environment Pi A Kuftff Grand Ronde - Oregon Peaceworks Coordinator Susan Gordon (left), recently toured the Grand Ronde Reservation with Corbin Harney (right). Harney is a spiritual leader of the Shoshone nation. Interview with Peacework's Susan Gordon The following is a taped interview with the state coordinator of Oregon Peaceworks Susan Gordon about the recent demonstra tion against the continued testing of nuclear weapons at the Nevada test site. The test site islocatedonthelandoftheWesternShoshone Nation and has become a major concern of a growing number of Native American Tribes across the country. Gordonrecentfyvisitedthe Grand Ronde Reservation with Corbin Har ney who is a Spiritual leader of the Shoshone people. Smoke Signals: Susan, the first question I want to ask you is what is the purpose of demonstrating against nuclear weapons testing? Gordon : The American Peace Test was formed origi nally in 1985, the group of people that decided to do that were looking at the whole process of nuclear weapons and how we get them. The weak link in the process is testing and we felt that was a specific area that we could have an effect on and specifically protest against and that was a key component. If we could pull out testing that we could stop the continual nuclear arms build up because they wouldn't have away to keep doing it if we could stop the testing. The other aspect of it is that it's an easy target in the United States because it is at the Nevada test site which is very specific and can be focused on readily. Smoke Signals : This seems to be almost a noble cause, I wonder if people are aware of some of the dangers that the testing itself can bring on the environment and the people that live in that area. Gordon : There is a couple aspects of that, more and more the down winders are speaking up. The down winders are the people who live down wind from nuclear test facilities or nuclear weapons facilities like the INEL plant in Idaho or the Hanford site in Washington. Those people are just now becoming aware of the effects of radiation on their lives and as a group they're beginning to speak up and become part of the protest against it. Especially the folks at Hanford when they did studies of it and found that more than 80 percent of the families that lived down wind from Hanford had serious birth defects and high cancer rates, high prostate problems, thyroid problems, and the govern ment is beginning to readdress those folks with money and medical assistance, but they're doing it very quietly because they don't want to admit that the nuclear leakage from facilities has affected their lives. The other aspect of it is that, almost every single nuclear test site around the world has been placed on Native peoples' lands. So the testing has been removed from the main populations of the countries that are testing and put on minorities and Native people as the victims, so that lessens the impact on their society, on the society that's in control and makes it somebody else's problem. Smoke Signals: Why do you think that is? Why would you pick out Native lands to do nuclear testing? What do you think the reasoning would be from the research you've done? Gordon: It's because minorities and Native people don't have a strong political voice and aren't well organized to fight back against a major government system like the United States or France. It's been easy to go in and take over a m inority. I think it's based on racism and the inability of governments to look at all of their people and to really address the differences in culture that exits. They don't want to look at culture's as being just different and not inferior. Smoke Signals : Has it been your experience that Native American's that are affected by this kind of thing are now becoming more organized and aware of what's happening to them? Gordon: Certainly the Shoshone's have become very much involved in the American Peace Test and their looking at the next action in April 3rd through 8th as being specifically Native American focused. With the idea of perhaps bringing in other Native Indian Tribes to do a bigger education kind of forum to bring out more informa tion about the different kind of Native American culture's that are out there. Smoke Signals : Now that you have explained some of the reasons that these type of demonstrations take place can you tell us more about you're organization the Oregon Peace Works. Gordon: Oregon Peace Works was formed in 1987. We formed out of Citizens Action for Lasting Security, and Citizens for Nuclear Free Oregon. Those groups had formed originally in the early 80's as part of the national nuclear freeze movement, they were independent chapters and they had worked on the freeze movement in the early 80's. We spent a whole year on discussing the form and structure of Oregon Peace Works and had meetings around the state. We decided that it was important to have a state wide organization to continue the networking and to bring as many of these isolated groups together under one name. So we formed at that point in June of '87, and the idea was to be a networking organization that continued to empower the local chapters to let them continue their own programs but at the same time to tie them into a statewide network. And the other aspect of it was that we wanted to be for peace advocacy, instead of being reactive and adversarial we wanted to have a program that was clear and practical and included a firming step to create a future that would embody our brightest hopes and best energies. Smoke Signals Works is funded? Can you tell us how Oregon Peace Gordon: Mainly, through donations and a small bit through grants. Our chapters make donations and we have a renewal program that's been established. And we have some major donors that help us out. There's three branches of Oregon Peace Works, we have 501 C4 which is our general non-profit that we do most of our work out of. We have and education wing which is called Oregon Peace Works Fun which is the 501 C3 which is a tax deductible non-profit donation. And we have a Political Act ion Com m ittee which this year formed two com m ittccs, one to work on State Legislative Races and one to work on Federal races which is specifically Mike Kopctski's race. Gordon : Can you tell us what your position with Oregon Peace Works is exactly? Smoke Signals : The state Co-ordinator which is a non sexist way of saying director. Smoke Signals : How long have you been doing this now? Gordon: I have been the state coordinator since May of 1990. I became the co-chair of Oregon Peace Works in early 1988 then began working part time from my home in Coos Bay doing the bookkeeping. Then that moved up to