2 j Capital AJournal IAn Independent Newspaper Established 1888 GEORGE PUTNAM, Editor and Publisher ROBERT LETTS JONES, Assistant Publisher Published every afternoon except Sunday at 444 Che meketa St., Salem Phones: Business, Newsroom, Want Ads, 2-2406; Society Editor, 2-2409. Full Leased Wire Service of the Associated Press end The United Press. The Associated Press is exclusively entitled to the use tor publication of all news dispatches credited to it or otherwise credited in this paper and also news published therein. e ti lb 'ii C B t) a SUBSCRIPTION RATES: By Carrier: Weeklv, He; Monthly. 11.00; One Ter, $11.00. By Mall In Oregon: Monthly. 75e; 6 Mo.. $4.00: One Year, $g.00. V. 8. Outside Oregon: Monthly. 11.00: ( Mos.. 16.00; Tear, 112. a v a C li 4 Salem, Oregon, Thursday, September 15, 1949 Truman Reveals the Politics of His CVA f 1" ; c A couple of days ago Senator Morse made a cautious n "non-political" appraisal of the controversial Columbia i 4 Valley administration. He described the issue as too im 8 portant to be dumped into partisan politics. He said the j development projects should be built first "so we have I r something to administer." t But President Truman doesn't see It that way. ' a In a typical squeeze-play move, the president has bluntly I told congress that if he doesn't get his CVA, then no funds ' " for development of the Columbia river basin. Truman's t stand came out In a communication to the chairman of the j senate public works committee. The president asked con s gress to defer approval of a billion dollar development pro- ' I gram of th region by the army engineers and the recla i mation bureau, the existing federal agencies in the field. ' i This Is playing politics with the future of the Columbia "river area. If Truman doesn't get his pet project out "here, he doesn't want the region to get any further de I velopment. By taking such a stand, the president will force a show down on the controversial issue. With the veto power in 1 his hands, he could kill off any appropriation measure that i congress might pass despite his threats, i This is just what the Capital Journal has feared and fought against. This newspaper has contended all along that development of the Columbia river basin was the ' most important thing. That was what the people of the J region were interested in. Too many backers of a CVA , appeared more interested in setting up their pet scheme than in seeing that the region got developed. Truman has now shown such to be the case, i By trying to sidetrack development for the sake of establishing a bureaucracy, the president has made the 1 Dolitics of a CVA clear. Truman and his crowd, and that includes many "fair dealers" in Oregon, want a bureau- cratic administration for the region. They are more in , terested in that than they are in developing the Pacific , Northwest or else they wouldn't take the stand they do. 1 The CVA now stands unmasked unmasked by its cre 1 ator, President Truman. The polit:" of a rV A a- ''ad 1 and dangerous as suspected. 1 Minton for Supreme Court Justice President Truman has named Sherman Minton, 58, of Indiana, judge of the Seventh U. S. circuit court of ap ' peals which embraces the states of Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin, to be associate justice of the U.S. supreme court to fill the vacancy caused by the death of Justice Wiley ' Rutledge. The appointment breaks the New Deal prece- dents by selecting a supreme court justice that has had " previous judicial experience, and is over 50 years of age, ;J but It fulfills the requirement of being an aggressive New f' Dealer. I! Minton is a native of Indiana, a graduate of Indiana uni 1 versity with master degree from Yale, long practiced law, served as captain of infantry in the first World War, was ," public counsellor of the Indiana public service commission, i 1933-34, and served in the U.S. senate, 1935-41. On his ', defeat for re-election he was appointed administrative as ; sistant to the president and a few months later to the U.S. circuit court. Minton is best known for his vigorous fight for the Roosevelt administration measures, especially his cham , pionship of Roosevelt's plan to stack the supreme court ; by adding new justices to the ranks of those over 70 who did not retire, which would at the time have enlarged the ' eourt from 9 to 15 members, because the court had de clared unconstitutional some New Deal measures. In 1938 Minton introduced a bill providing stiff penalties for newspaper publishers who published anything they knew to be untrue. The bill, which embroiled Minton in ; heated oratorical exchanges with Colonel Robert R. Mc Cormick of the Chicago Tribune and other publishers, was finally withdrawn. Minton's rise in Indiana politics was coincident with the governorship of Paul V, McNutt, who later became federal security commissioner, war manpower commis sioner, high commissioner and then embassador to the Fhil- ippincs and a candidate for the presidency. Minton is also a close friend of President Truman and while in the ; senate, had the desk next to him. ' Republican Democrat i Washington, on being inaugurated as president, howd ' In the performance of his official duties, to stand poli tically neutral; he was opposed to partisan politics. Ham- ilton, his close friend and political adviser, however, was ; all out for party politics. It was he who founded the old Federalist party, and with which Washington became ! rather unwillingly identified. Those who opposed Hamilton and his Federalist asso ciates were republicans. The words republican and demo crat were synonvmous, and in time were used indiscrimin ately. However, the name republican seems to have been in use as late as the beginning of Van Ruren's administration, for we find at that time a new paper, "The Madisonian," appearing in Washington, and very much to the political concern of the retiring president, Andrew Jackson, who referred to it as "a viper in the hypocritical guise of a friend to the administration, it intends to sting by dividing the republicans." On September 14, 1837, Jackson wrote to Van Ruren from the Hermitage: "I fear only one thing, that the paper lately set up in Washington, "The Madisonian," will do mischief by dividing the republican ranks." It is quite evilent, therefore, that the words'"democratic party, did not come into general and exclusive use until after the above date. Does Own Operation - Vith .22 Mt. Clemens, Mich. U1 Wayne Bacon, J. I'tlra, won't have to worry about having his appendix out, doctors at General hospital said today. He did the job himself by accident with a .U caliber re volver. Physicians said th healthy appendix was snipped off "al snout as well as If It were professional Job." Bacon, shot Tuesday whit cleaning the gun at his home, tsifftrad other InUrnal injuries. BY BECK Parental Problems KO-HUM-MWf STAYED "J AKO XXI ASSURED M 33? ,W9 AWAKE SO LATE LAST Cfvf HOW MUCH BETTER VOU'D KVl, NI8MT TALKING ABOUT SUEP IN A TENT OUT IN JW' V&Pv WHAT WE WERE BOIMS JT?e THE FRESH AIR. THE rSf TO 00 TODAY..THAT-. SV( NEXT TIME SALLY ffSW 'YtV HO -HUM. .WE'RE TOO J V STAYS CVER-NI6HT RfifWS, '- nr -EEPY TO T YOU'LL SLEEP o8-1Si iff V0"' ' aJnbep- jfglsSEz!? 'UlA'L'V-: SIPS FOR SUPPER Last Time By DON UPJOHN Some guys are old enough so, as the boy said, they should oughts know better. But by gum, it's the last time as far as we're con cerned. As we sit here this a. m., attempting to start pecking at the old typewriter our muscles so stiff and lame we can hardly make it, we vow here and now it's the finish. Never again will we crawl out early in the morning to haul water to the ele phants. If we can't sneak in under the tent somewhere we don't go. Getting Prepared The Fourth in rpioh. Ark, Inc., re ligious organization, filed sup plementary articles of incorpora tion here todav in furtherance of a campaign to raise "five bil- lion and one million dollars to form a fourth ark for the salva tion of the righteous for the com ing destruction of the world." The organization states it also Intends to re-erect Solomon's temple in Portland. Founder, di rector, secretary and treasurer is Rev. Theodore H. Irving, col ored minister, Portland. Foregoing is what might be termed an ambitious project. Portland and Multnomah coun- ty are getting to be the recall Note on our desk from Ewing ingest places in the country. McCroskey who retired from Whatever else may be said of Willamette Grocery company Sheriff Mike Elliott he's the July 1, last year, after the bet- No. 1 free publicity grabber. What-Next Department- Chicago All!) u took the Poultry and Egg National Board to come up with the ultimate In the "ten best" lists. The board plans to name the "ten best dressed fowl in the nation." It's all slightly confusing and the board hasn't explained the purpose but district, state and regional fowl fashion shows will be held. It all will be climaxed with the na tional fowl fashion show at Kansas City in February. At that time, the barnyard biddies will strut down a run way in French bathing suits and formal gowns and such stuff. The board actually wants to see the chickens and turkeys cavorting around In such outfits wants to see It so badly that It Is going to give an automobile to the designer of the outstanding outfit for a fowl. Anyone can enter the contest. The board suggests that costumes be made from colorful poultry seed bags. MacKENZIE'S COLUMN Money Talks Amount to First Aid Not Cure By DeWITT MocKENZIE I I'M Forttin Affilr Anljll That seems to be a business-like and practical Job the Amer-lcan-British-Canadian conference at Washington has done by way of giving emergency aid in John Bull's economic crisis. It's more than just an economic remedy. It gives a real lift to the morale of a very hard-pressed England and to the numerous countries whose welfares are in terlocked with hers. The agree ments werrl worked out with due re gard to the dig nity of Britain, and to the bond.', of friend ship The conferee tackled the D.WIII kUckml. problem in the same spirit of unity and co-operation shown during the dark days of the world war. Undoubtedly the aid would have been arranged had no oth- er nation than Britain been con- cerned. But quite apart from tho proposition of helping a staunch war-time ally it was very .clear than an international catastro- phe would be precipitated If she were allowed to collapse. As Canadian Finance Minis- ter Douglas Abbott put it: "We go up or down together." The ask of the conferees In this initial meeting was related to Britain's shortage of dollars. !" 1 ' "" ffl She is earning far less dollars the past generation greatly than she has to spend for essen- speeded by two world wars tial imports. Thus shortage had has upset Britain's economic ap lo be made up. and the confer- pie-cart. She must devise new ence divised a 10 point program ways and means to meet this sit to meet requirements nation. She may achieve this by The agreements include these: carrying out her plan of devel The United States and Canada oping her potentially rich col are expected to buy more tin onies. and rubber from Britain for However, such development stock piling. Britain will be per- Isn't in overnight Job. ter part of a long life spent there keeping track of the gro cery figures. Ewing's been mostly at Olympia and Spo kane since leaving here per fecting himself as a landscape gardener and was seen in Frosty Olson's today pricing carnations, no doubt for some of his old girls down thisaway. He'll be here a few days and then in tends to head for Hollywood. Maybe he plans on getting out the old musical saw and make the movies. Also on our desk a coupla onions from the garden of that old expert Otto Bush, 2295 D street. Each of same weighed over 2 lbs., was about 5'i inches across and was all onion. Otto still remains champ. Manila. P. I. (U.R) A local auc tioneer failed to record a sin gle sale today. His wares were 11 caskets. mitted to spend Marshall plan dollars in countries other than the Untied States, such as the purchase of wheat in Canada al though America has an export able surplus. Britain will be free to discriminate against U.S. and Canadian goods to build up her non-dollar Imports, and so conserve dollars. On the face of it, of course, England will be benefiting in soma cases at the expense of America The answer to this is that Uncle Sam's contribution is an investment for insurance against a greater calamity. Sir Stafford Cripps, British chancellor of the exchequer, ,av, nP , convinced the agree- menl wilI block iny furlher dangerous drains on Britain's gi, reserve, However, I don't believe we ,hould take this as indicating that Brtiain's economic problem ha been solved. It is first aid. Her trouble is far more deep seated, as this column recently pointed out. The vast Industrial develop ment of other countries during WASHINGTON MERRY 'Nine Old Men' Will Rule Against FDR's Philosophy By DREW PEARSON Washington For the first time since Frinklin Roosevelt ap pointed the majority on the supreme court, you can writ it down that the "nine old men" will now rule against FDR's general political philosophy. This turn to the right will be apparent shortly after court convenes in Oc- tober, and would have tak en place even had not Justice Wiley Rutledge passed away last week. It will be empha sized all the more, however, witn nis aeain.i: There will fr. now be three Drtw PMrsva different and distinct groups on fe4 the Supreme Court, with gen- Reading it. Justice Reed beam erally divergent points of view ed: "If this stays in," he said, on most subjects. "I'll go along with you." Group No. 1 The militant liberals have now been reduced Chief Justice's New Rule to only two men Justices Hugo Fred Vinson, a great human Black and William O Douglas, being, hasn't surprised those Up until, Frank Murphy's death, wno know him wel, bv his drlf, they controlled the court; be- to the right. The Chief Jus cause they could usually per- tice', background and social sur suade Stanley Reed or one other roundings always have been a justice to go along with them, little right - of - center. Under Now a definite minority, Black Roosevelt he was a faithful fol and Douglas, will still have a iower of the New Deai Jeft.of. powerful impact on the nation, center philosophy, but now he will probably become like Hoi- j, traveling on his own. mes and Brandeis in their ring- w,, . , . in? hUlnrir rfim nt their . .wat has surprised some of i ,i ,l. , t: ty will be no more ' GrouD No. 2 The conserva- .. ' . , . ;r tives are represented by Felix , . . j . , . , ITronlrriirtAi. anH Hnh TanVcnn . .v.. me most insignificant law clerk ly that atom' Jackson, more astute than couid drop in to see him at any b o m b , will Frankfurter and . more skilled time. mgke u wjld. politician, is the dominant of t erness , the two. Both men were ap- , T Vinson, asso- ; u.. r, w in -. cla'e justices have found not Tle pigeons pumicu uy nuuseveii as nucleus, both have drifted well over to the right, and both are in oppo- sition to most of FDR's social and economic views. ... Middle-of-the-Roaders Group No. 3 The middle-of-the-roaders are led by Chief Justice Fred Vinson, who for the time, since the death of Mur phy and Rutledge, will now con trol the majority of the court. With the Chief Justice will line up popular Stanley Reed, also from Kentucky. A trifle lazy, easy to sway, ana worried about increased government con- trols and so-called "statism," Reed has been gradually veer- ing away from the liberals. Also voting with the Chief Justice most of the time will be hard-working ex-Attorney General Tom Clark, who partly owes his Supreme Court appoint- ment to his old friend Vinson. For it was Vinson who tipped the balance in favor of Clark when the President's mind was undecided. Clark will be more liberal than Vinson in many cases, but most of the time he will stav with his old friend. Though a Republican, Justice Harold Burton also lines up rather consistently with the Chief Justice. Burton feels a great loyalty to President Tru man, who appointed him, and with whom he once served in the senate. Furthermore, Bur ton, a plodding lawyer who has to struggle to turn out even three or four opinions a year, is forced by necessity to hang on some body's coattails. And the Chief Justice's tails are both the most respectable and the most con venient. Douglas vs. Frankfurter tu - tm, aiivic waa ti tune wutfti jam Douglas seriously considered rivuDninff rnm 'th. ,,- Court. Still a voung man the confining drudgery of the court bored him. With the death of Rutledge and Murphy, however, he will probably not resign first be- cause he will not desert his old friend Hugo Black, and second because he will not desert the liberal cause. Also Douglas gets a kick out of baiting his opposite number, Felix Frankfurter. The only member of the Supreme Court who successfully and consistent ly gets under Frankfurter's skin, Douglas almost makes him fran- "c a c . ,.,,,,. ul ,rw wuioa, nrsi-ciass lun neia in tne norm- pal stadium problem, however, goodwill and thev are all gen Douglas will sit listening at- west. The turf field at Salem I sincerely believe it will solve iusV, together Then someone tentively to a long and involved High School is primarily a prac- not only the stadium question a'v- h"iuii . t-rar- t,i'ii.-;i. aiicu Buuueui.v, A.o..n.u,,r. .cmr, ,,,, climax. Douglas will intervene .h J 2 v" rlfivv. mean so-and.so.doou. Felix? Those who sit In on the Su- preme Court conferences iv Frankfurter Is much more like- ly to resign than any otiur member of the court, the chief reasons being the needling of Bill Douglas and the lack of yming people s company in Washington. At Harvard, Frankfurter was constantly sue- rounded by adoring youngsters, but in Washington they don t come round to see him nymore Fran, Fii.Iar nl ktm. 1 am..,itr. 1.IKIT, UllllBdl quite a political trader, and used to concentrate on winning Stan- ley Reed, sometimes called "the swing man" of the court. On morning, as law clerks and jus tices went to work. Frankfurter, his office door wide open, could be heard pleading on the phone. "Now, Stanley," he said, ob viously talking to Justice Reed, "you know I don't want to In fluence you, but don't you let those 'So-and So's' take you In " Th so-called "So-and-So's" - GO - ROUND were, of course, the court lib erals, who several times did bend over backward to win the vote of Justice Reed. In the As sociated Press case, for instance, the liberals needed one mora vote and instructed their law clerks to study all of Reed's past opinions in order to Insert some of his pet phraseology in their final opinion. After an exhaus tive search, one of Reed's pet legal theories was dug up and woven into the AP opinion, uupicuiE i.uun coueaaues. Jiowever, has been Vinson' for- mality. Chief Justice Stone -..i-j 11 , court wun an easy- ni inin.i;i.. ...u:.l ....v.. .iiajitv UIIUCI WI11CI1 . . . ... . . , . " y.that.th?y have to m.ake P- ' 7 .. n . " DUl are "i"? te" X'?80" 8 creta.ry what thej; want e Chief Justice about. As a result, per- tain justices do not call on Vin- son any more. icocrriiht ! Oscar the Turtle Doomed to Capture in Lake Churubusco. Ind.. Sept. IS U.R) has outwitted every attempt by nun, may lose his freedom to a gasoline driven pump. Harris set the pump to draining the seven-acre fulslake where Oscar lives. Harris figures that once the lake is drv it will be no trick at all to cage the turtle and haul him away. No one has ever gotten a really good look as Oscar. But Harrj , ; h about 500 ds u a hal' ntury old. Harris came closest to captur- in the turtle when he and some neighbors put two electrodes into the lake and !'nt 2,500 volts through them, Stunned fish, frogs and Oscar floated to the surface but before 'ne capture coum be completed the wily turtle came to and paddled back to the muddy lake who have called me a liar," he In another attempt, Harris said, STATE FAIR PROPERTY Municipal Stadium Proposed For Fairgrounds Location The Long Range Planning Commission, Salem Chamber of Commerce. Gentlemen: The city of Salem has been in dire need of a municipal stadium for a great number of years. Several years ago, a stadium was voted for the city but at the same time the ballot measure for aDDronria- ballot measure for . ' ' ,ln money ,or th construction was defeated. Since that time there has been no further en- deavor made to provide a sta- dlum with adequate seating ca- Pacltv or tle "ty. The 1949-50 school year will be the last season when Salem High School and Junior High school teams will be permitted to use Willamette's Sweetland Field, due to the Willamette Building Program. Willamette's athletic program will be ade- quately accommodated on its new field in Bush Pasture. However, this field will be used exclusively by the univer- sity, due to the difficulty and ex Dense involved n ma ntainine a t- . . ,j , ., .. nee iieia ana win noi siano up jor 00111 practice ana m Rame jcnrauic oy me mgn anQ junior High Schools. The that I wish to make is that ,he stale of Qrp. gon sell its present State Fair- grounds and rebuild a beautiful new fairgrounds on state prop- erty in the vicinity of the Cot- tage Farm and T.B. Hospital. All of the present buildings on the fairgrounds with the excep- tion of the grandstand could be either moved or torn down. The grandstand is about the only modern building on this Im- mense area. I feel that the land occupied by the State Fairgrounds Is far .. 1.. 1.1 . . J Ul , UIU VBlUuUIC IU .I.IIU 1W1C 1UI about 50 weeks out of each year. This entire area could be sub-divided into residential areas on the south and east, and into industrial sites on the west along the railroad track leaving space around the stadium for off-street parking and landscap ing. It would also give oppor tunity for more north-south streets through Salem relieving some of the traffic congestion on North Capitol Street and the Fairgrounds Road. At present, BY GUILD Wizard of Odds ITSSOO TO I AMINST A QUALIFIED WOMAN BECOMING A U.S.SEHaTOR. (HELEN uAHAuAN P0U6LAS IS THE ONLY WOMAN THE SENATE NOW.) ! tP" BY ODDS OF 5 TO 3, ''" i AMERICANS SPENT MORE ON BUYING gOLDFISH THAN ON CANCER RESEARCH IN 1948. POOR MAN'S PHILOSOPHER Manhattan Lunches to Destroy New Yorkers By HAL BOYLE New York MV-What will finally destroy New York City? Time has washed down the drain the great metropolises of many previous civmzauuns. jna 111 nine una uuuuuu-uii-mc- Hudson probably will also be reduced to the whisper that now echoes from Sodom, Gomorrah, Ninevah and Tyre. . . ' nut now: mr? K l 13 UllllfWC-g " .i.,,,!., i V. L TJ .t.n in.. .,. "h1 "te ' a ' t obl'gat- ing Washington, D-c- or. some believe, the city may be wiped out in sudden Appears Oscar, th. .icantir turtle who farmer Gale Harris to capture staked out a ISO pound female turtle to the lake shore but Os car never even winked at her. Nets, cages and even divers yielder no better results. ... All this took a lot of time and Harris's farm work suffered. But the capture became an obsession with him and he se cured permission from the Indi ana conservation commission to drain the lake into another lake five miles awav via drainage ditches. "I want to show un the nennle there Is but one street leading north between Commercial street and Lancaster drive. i have no idea how feasible tnis pIan might be possibly it , jllst another "pipe dream," but as a citizen of a fast grow- ing city I feel we should do something now and plan for the future. As for the financing of this pian t oeneve that the sale of tne land by the State to indivi- duals or to one company for subdivision would pay for the loss involved in moving and wrecking buildings also pay the Stale for the grandstand. This is Just an idea that start- ed As A Knltltinn In thp mnni.! -- --- - --- -- DUl also tne problem of the xuture growtn or Salem to the norm. If it In your planning for the future. ,u well and good, if not just file it with the rest of the crack- Pot ideas that hatch out every once in a while. GARDNFR KVAPP UAKUNtK KNAPP P S. Another thought on this plan inasmuch as the state is taking a lot of property off the city tax rolls through expansion 0f the captial grounds, they should do a little toward equal- iling tnis ricrea,e in property by being willing to sell the land occupied by the State Fair grOUndS. (f A "ini sT? ?B LA a LS Tarzan Weismuller Works Out Hollywood, Sept. i Johnny Weismuller who ate him self out of his Tartan role has dieted himself bark into jungle movies. He weighed in yesterday at Columbia studio at 199i and will begin work as "Jungle Jim," a sort of Tarsan-with-clothes-on role. A clause In his contract stipulates that he must pay Producer Sam Kattman $1,000 for each pound of weight over 200. The swimming star lost his Tsrsan role when h loomed up to a paunchy 23S. IN BABIES. BY ODDS Of IIN4,STARTUFT-HAH0E0 -BUT AS ADULTS ONLY I IN 20 WILL STILL BE LEFT HANDED. (6M YOU AMP, DAW HMD. SAUM.OUn mass outbreak of violence by maddered riders of the Long Island railroad. My own theory, however, is that Shangri-York will be done to death by the three-hour Man hattan lunch. This is a spread- i ing epidemic that attacks our i social, economic and cultural H structure at the top. The modern three-hour Man hattan luncheon is the old sim ple businessman's blue-plate spe cial raised to the stature of a Hollywood production. Its temples are the popular restaurants of the midtown and financial districts, places where the waiters purr and the menu prices look like a listing of the war aeDl- Gathered around the table are two to four people who ostensi- bly have met to undertake im portant business, but whose real objective is to gossip, see, and be seen. ... The ritual begins promptly at 12:30 o'clock. "Anybody going to have a drink?" says the first man tenta tively. "Think I'll pass my self." "Pass," says the second, after a pause. "Well" hedges the third. ' "Let's have one anyway," says the fourth, mad because they have all palmed the real deci sion off on him. So they all lap a double round of martinis extra dry. And the first man orders a third martini, wondering if the others think he Is drinking too much. He wonders himself, too. By then the havoc of the night before and the cares of the morn ing are gone. In a mellow glow they go in to a half dozen oysters or clams for energy. Next comes a huge plate of chicken au gratin with asparagus tips and a side order of salad. Like wo men they hesitate over whether , , . , mu , " V"- V,c " a'ways yes a chunk of pas- try big enough to throttle a hip popotamus. Then comes coffee and 'brandy?" "Oh, why not?" And a double round seems only sensible. Why let a good fire die once it's burn ing well? The four gents by now are cooking on sixteen burners. If they are radio writers they are pitying Shakespeare. If they are business executives, they r th.t i t urin .nirf v..,,- hi.i . ,'n.', ,..ith man if he hadn't mad. .o manv boners. a -i i n rusy kiuw wraps inem in "Good Lord, it's 3:30!' They waddle out and grab a hBri, tn fh. There oy.t(,rs, alad, coffoe, and Kr(,nch paslry churn them into torpor. The afternoon is lost. Until quitting time they sag like sug- ar j,,,, over thp'jr desks They have to stop off for' a couple of qulck h(nball!1 on 1he wy home to keep alive, "Tomorrow I'm going to Just have a snack lunch." they prom- ise themselves. But they don't. Its back to the same old trough for another wallow, Three hour luncheons may take a long time to destroy New York. But they do a quicker . Job on the men who eat them.