NATION Thursday, February 14, 2019 East Oregonian A7 Should anyone worry about a $22 trillion national debt? By MARTIN CRUTSINGER AP Economics Writer WASHINGTON — The government surpassed a dubious milestone this week: Its debt topped $22 trillion for the first time. Piles of federal debt have been growing ever higher for years, fueled by accu- mulating annual deficits, which themselves have been driven by tax cuts, govern- ment spending increases and the mounting costs of Medicare and Social Secu- rity and interest on the debt itself. Under President Donald Trump, the national debt has topped $20 trillion (Septem- ber 2017) $21 trillion (March 2018) and now $22 trillion. As a presidential candidate, Trump had assailed the $1 trillion annual deficits under President Barack Obama and had said that as presi- dent he could wipe out all the debt. Now, Trump is pro- jecting that his own annual deficits will top $1 trillion for a time. So just what is the AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais, File This June 8, 2017, file photo, shows the U.S. Treasury Depart- ment building in Washington. national debt, why does it keep rising and how wor- ried should we be about it? Here are some questions and answers: Q: What makes up the national debt? A: It’s the total the gov- ernment has borrowed to finance its operations beyond what it’s collected over the years in reve- nue from taxes and other sources. The debt has become a perennial source of hand-wringing because of, among other things, con- cern that it will paralyze the nation’s ability to finance its future operations and will hamstring generations to come. Not since the late 1990s and early 2000s has the U.S. government run a surplus, a luxury that allows it to reduce the debt and finance other needs. Q: How does the debt differ from the deficit? A: The deficit is the gap between what the govern- ment collects in revenue and what it spends in any partic- ular budget year. The accu- mulation of these annual budget deficits, combined into one, represent the debt. Because the government typically spends more than it collects, it must borrow to make up the difference. For the 2018 budget year, which ended Sept. 30, the deficit totaled $779 billion. That was the largest gap between spending and rev- enue since 2012, when the deficit was $1.1 trillion. That year, during the Obama administration, the govern- ment had increased spend- ing and cut taxes to continue stimulating the economy in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis and the Great Recession. Q: Who holds all the debt the government has borrowed? A: One misperception is that most of the U.S. debt is held by foreigners — in China, Japan and elsewhere. But in fact America’s big- gest creditor is ... America. Sixty-two percent of the fed- eral debt is held in the United States — by the Federal Reserve, the Social Secu- rity system, banks, pension plans, mutual funds, insur- ance companies and indi- vidual investors. The largest single chunk — $5.9 trillion, about one- fourth of the total — is money the government owes itself in the form of trust funds. The biggest is the Social Security trust fund. The government has drawn on this money, which is earmarked to pay Social Security benefits, to finance other expenses. But once that money is needed to pay Social Security ben- efits, the government must replenish the amounts it bor- rowed — with interest. If it’s still running deficits, the only way to do this is to take on more debt. The debt held by the pub- lic — $16.2 trillion — is about three-fourths of the total. It’s held by investors in both the United States and abroad, ranging from indi- viduals and pension funds to foreign central banks. China is the largest for- eign owner of debt. It holds roughly $1.2 trillion in Trea- sury securities, followed by Japan, which holds about $1 trillion, according to the latest accounting. Q: With interest rates still so low, how much con- cern is there about the size of the national debt? A: That depends on whom you ask. Many econ- omists say they fear that the rising debt represents a time bomb that will eventu- ally explode and derail the economy. That is especially true, they argue, in light of projections that the annual deficits are once again headed above $1 trillion and will be stuck at those lev- els for years as the govern- ment pays the rising costs of Social Security benefits and Medicare health insurance for vast numbers of retiring baby boomers. But some economists counter that with interest rates so low, the govern- ment shouldn’t be worried about reducing the deficits — at least not now. Instead, they contend, the govern- ment should focus on mak- ing worthwhile public investments in such areas as education, infrastructure, health care and environmen- tal protections. Judge finds Manafort lied to investigators in Russia probe By CHAD DAY Associated Press WASHINGTON — For- mer Trump campaign chair- man Paul Manafort inten- tionally lied to investigators and a federal grand jury in the special counsel’s Rus- sia probe, a judge ruled on Wednesday. U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson’s deci- sion was another loss for Manafort, a once-wealthy political consultant who rose to lead Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign and now faces years in prison in two criminal cases brought in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. The four-page ruling hurts Manafort’s chance of receiving a reduced sen- tence, though Jackson said she would decide the exact AP Photo/Kevin Wolf Kevin Downing, Paul Manafort’s defense attorney, right, walks to the entrance of federal court on Wednesday in Washington. At left is attorney Tim Wang, another member of the defense team for Manafort. impact during his sentencing next month. It also resolves a dispute that had provided new insight into how Muel- ler views Manafort’s actions as part of the broader probe of Russian election inter- ference and any possible coordination with Trump associates. Prosecutors have made clear that they remain deeply Highlights of the bill to avoid shutdown Associated Press WASHINGTON — It’s not just about the border wall. The border security issues that sparked a 35-day government shutdown are but one element of a massive $330 billion-plus spending measure that wraps seven bills into one, funding nine Cabinet agencies, includ- ing the departments of Jus- tice, State, Agriculture and Commerce. End-stage fights over unrelated policy provi- sions produced a deadlock, so efforts to extend soon-to- expire laws like the federal flood insurance program were dropped. Highlights include: A billion here, a billion there: Most of the bill deals with spending minutia such as a $1 billion increase to gear up for the 2020 census, an almost 4 percent budget increase for NASA and an $11.3 billion budget for the IRS. Most agencies are kept relatively level. Federal employee pay: Trump has proposed a pay freeze for civilian fed- eral employees, but the measure would guarantee those workers a 1.9 percent increase. Big trucks: For fans of the truly obscure, there’s a provision to exempt sugar beet trucks in rural Oregon from length limits. interested in Manafort’s interactions with a man the FBI says has ties to Russian intelligence. But it’s unclear exactly what has drawn their attention and whether it relates to election inter- ference because much of the dispute has played out in secret court hearings and blacked out court filings. In her ruling Wednesday, Jackson provided few new details as she found there was sufficient evidence to say Manafort broke the terms of his plea agreement by lying about three of five matters that prosecutors had singled out. The ruling was a rejection of Manafort’s attorneys’ argument that he hadn’t intentionally misled investigators but rather for- got some details until his memory was refreshed. The judge found that Manafort did mislead the FBI, prosecutors and a fed- eral grand jury about his interactions with Konstan- tin Kilimnik, the co-defen- dant who the FBI says has ties to Russian intelligence. Prosecutors had accused Manafort of lying about sev- eral discussions the two men had including about a possi- ble peace plan to resolve the Russia-Ukraine conflict in Crimea. During a sealed hearing last week, Mueller prosecu- tor Andrew Weissmann said one of the discussions— an Aug. 2, 2016, meeting at the Grand Havana Room club and cigar bar in New York— went to the “larger view of what we think is going on” and what “we think the motive here is.” “This goes, I think, very much to the heart of what the Special Counsel’s Office is investigating,” Weissmann said, according to a redacted transcript of the hearing. He added: “That meeting and what happened at that meet- ing is of significance to the special counsel.” The meeting occurred while Manafort was still in a high-ranking role in the Trump campaign. Weissmann said inves- tigators were also inter- ested in several other meet- ings between Kilimnik and Manafort including when Kilimnik traveled to Wash- ington for Trump’s inau- guration in January 2017. And Manafort’s attor- neys accidentally revealed weeks ago that prosecutors believe Manafort shared polling data with Kilimnik during the 2016 presidential campaign. Rekindle Your Love For Reading Purchase a 1-year subscription to the East Oregonian and receive this highly collectable book, “Pendleton Round-up at 100,” absolutely free! Makes a great Valentine gift or a wonderful addition to your own coff ee table. 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