' : i TDgr(S nn (Q)M) 'Much Can Be B6ne' Without Xr(isi LPU 102nd YEAfi 12 PAGES Challenge Filed by Truckers A suit asking that the increased truck tax law, sanctioned by the voters t the last general election, become effective Dec. 1, was iiled In Marion County Circuit Court Friday. The suit challenges Attorney General George Neuners recent ruling that the tax increase be retroactive to Jan- 1, 1952. The act, which would swell state high way revenues an estimated $1, 930,000 annually, was passed by the 1951 Legislature and then was referred to the people. ' Plaintiff in the action filed Fri day is the Portland-Pendleton Mo tor Transportation Co- of Port land- The suit is directed against Public Utilities Commissioner Charles H. HeltzeL New. Retroactive to Jan. 1 Heltzel notified carriers recent ly that they would be liable for rates imposed under the law ret roactive to Jan. 1, plus a penalty of 10 per cent of the original fees accrued since that date. When the 1951 Legislature or iglnally approved the tax increase, based on a weight-mile fee, it set Jan. 1, 1952, as the date the law would ge into force. But the truckers contend that under provisions of the' Oregon constitution the law, because It was referred to the voters, did not be come effective until after the vot ers approved and until Gov. Douglas McKay proclaimed the law was in force. This date was Dec- 1. The suit asks that Heltzel be prevented from assessing any tax es or ; penalties accruing prior to Dec. 1. Claims Law Unconstitutional The plaintiff alleges the tax law is unconstitutional. It also con tends that the ballot title of the act at the last election did not mention an effective, date. The suit was reported to have received the unofficial blessing of the Legislative Highway Interim Committee which recently decid ed to ask the legislature to for give the tax tax up to Nov. 5. The committee said the retroactive tax would place too heavy a burden on some truck operators. The plaintiff contends the suit is brought in the interests of all trucking in the state. 2 Pedestrians Injured When Hit by Autos Two pedestrians were struck almost at the same time by autos early Friday evening in Salem, and both were Hospitalized. One accident occurred at Com mercial and D- Streets and sent Mrs. Katherina Bilde, 69, of 1397 N. Commercial St., to Salem Mem orial Hospital with a fracture of the right leg. Driver of the pickup which struck her, Gerhard Leo Bortilt, 1170 N. Front St- told investigating officers he was blind ed by lights of oncoming cars and' didn't see the woman cross ing the street. No citations were issued. , Officers also reported that four autos coming upon the accident drove over flares set out to warn of danger, Several bystanders were endangered Jby this driver negli gence, police said The second accident sent Mrs. Leota Hunt, 53 of 1491 Franklin St- to . Salem General Hospital with fractures of the right leg, right arm and pelvis. She was struck by an auto driven by Sid ney Herbert Wasserman, 295 For est Hills Way, at Rosemont and Edgewater Streets. No citations were issued. Both women were reported in "fair" condition by hospital au thorities Friday night Animal Crackers Bv WARREN COOORICH MSh! They're elopirtflr The Oregon McKay on Way To Somewhere By Some Means A mysterious change in plans late Friday caused Gov. Douglas McKay to cancel his train reser vations for Arizona and leave the state with no word of his destina tion. Gov. McKay was scheduled to leave with his wife on the 6 p.m. train Friday for the annual West ern Governors Conference at Pho enix. He apparently changed his plans at the last minute and call ed his secretary to say he was leaving Portland via airline. check at the Portland airline ter minal revealed no record of the governor leaving there. At home Friday evening, Mrs McKay .said she had "no com ment" about the governor's de parture. State police reported ear ly Saturday morning that they took the governor to Salem Air port Friday, but they could say nothing else about the trip except he was travelling under "sealed orders." Officials of United Air Lines said they had no record of the governor leaving on any flights here Friday. Whether Gov. McKay could have taken one of three mi litary flights which landed at Sa lem Friday was not determined by early Saturday. Drink Law Plan Completed by Liquor Board Recommendations on adminis tering the liquor by the drink law approved by the voters at the re cent general election were com pleted by members of the State Liquor Control commission at a Salem meeting Friday. These recommendations will be submitted to. Senate President Paul Patterson, slated to be Gov ernor on the retirement of Gov, Douglas McKay and to Sen. Eu gene Marsh, McMinnville, ' and Rep. Rudie Wilhelm, Portland, who will preside over the Senate and House at the 1953 legisla ture. Briefs on laws in 11 other states having somewhat similar laws to the one enacted in Oregon also have been completed by attorneys for the Liquor Control Commission. The commission authorized that copies of these briefs, be provid ed for all members of the Senate and House Alcoholic Committees and to- all members of the legis laturc who want them. W. A- Spangler, Klamath Falls, who recently succeeded Robert L. Elfstrom as chairman of the com mission, said no details of the recommendations would be releas ed prior to submission to the legis lative leaders and the governor. W. H. Baillie, adriilnistrator for the commission, reported j that a survey involving liquor law viola tions during the past four years disclosed that sale of liquor to minors is on the decrease. Spangler declared that while this problem, probably the most serious of any before the commis sion, can never be licked entirely, he felt that satisfactory progress could be made if the commission and its staff continued to bear down on tavern owners. "A large majority of tavern owners are honestly endeavoring to comply with the law but there are some bad eggs in the group," Spangler continued. "It is these few that must be driven out of business. They are a blackeye to the industry." The commission will meet next Jan-15. Tunisia Labor Leader Slain TUNIS, Tunisia W Assassins who struck from a motor car Fri day killed Farhat Hache-?, 39, Tu nisia's top labor leader, an out spoken advocate of independence and a trusted adviser of the Bev of Tunis. They machinegunned Hached about 8:30 a. m. as he was driving his car into Tunis from bis home about five miles outside the capi tal, then bashed in his head. Two men working in a nearby field witnessed this Ltest violence in a year of ferment that has seen 11S others killed and 619 wounded in this French North African pro tectorate. Nervous French officials de creed a curfew from 8 p. m, to a. m. The labor federation announced it was calling a three-day general strike, f Many store in the Arab quarter of Tunis closed, The , assassination ca-ne while Jean de Hautelcloccrue. French resident general in Tunisia, was in Paris .rMppin with the French government new plans to crack down on terrorism. -' - founddd 1651 Statesman, Salem, Ore.. Scrturdcry. Health Leaders Confer Here i' -YIa X r.fn-r-" i . i V Stan dine at a map ef Oreron hospitals are leaders In the Oregon Rural Health Conference meeting In Salem now. They are, from left. Dr. Robert F. Day. conference chairman, Seappoose; Harley Libby, Oregon Farmers Union, gon Farm Bureau; Dr. Edmund Harold J. Noyes, general chairman. Lack of Rural Dentists Blamed on By LILLIE Farm Editor, The Board of Education came when shortage of dentists in rural areas was pointed out by leaders of farm organizations at Oregon's third annual Rural Health Confer ence, which opened at the Senator Hotel. Ben Buisman, Oregon State Grange, Portland, said that the short age of dentists has developed at a time when the people of the coun Salem W oman Aunt of New Head of WSB A Salem woman picked up The Statesman Friday and learned that her great-nephew had been named chairman of the country's wage Stabilization Board. She is Mrs. Frank O'Brien ot 476 Union St., a spry and chipper septuagenarian whose great-neph ew, Charles Clint Kllhngsworth, 35, grandson of one of her four sisters, was named to the post Thursday to succeed Archibald Cox, who resigned. Although she hasn't seen her now-prominent relative- since he was 18 years old, Mrs. O'Brien was not "too surprised at his ap pointment. "He always was a bright boy, and his brother too. Hell do a srood lob." Mrs. O'Brien has lived in Salem since 1935. Her husband, who died 14 vears ago. owned a ranch at Park Avenue and Center Street, before the city spread out and took over the "farmland." Mrs. O'Brien and her family, Including Killings worth, spent most of their lives In and around Springfield and St. Louis, Mo. She has operated a rooming house here since her husband's death. and hasn't been back to Missouri since she came out here. Cropduster Gets 17,500 Judgment PORTLAND VPi A federal court jury Friday awarded a crop dusting pilot $17,500 damages for injuries suffered In a crash on June 3, 1950. The suit was brought against the Ace Flying Service, Salem, by El din B. Lambert, a pilot for the company at the time. He said he was required to fly too close to treei tops in the orchard he was spraying. (Lambert's plane crashed into hillside and- burned during the crop dusting work, he was doing on the Emii Marks xarm nortn east of Dallas, Ore. He was dust ing vetch and pea crops. Press re ports at the time said Lambert suffered eye and nose injuries.) Max. Mia. Zi 40 41 34 Precip. 24 , trac Portland , , Snn rraaeiaco . Chicago 45 S3 . . 35 New Yorit as 41 - Willamette River -S.4 feet. FORECAST (from U. S. Weather Bu reau. McNary Field. Salem): Rata this morning, showers this afternoon and tooisht. Higl today near 44. low to night near 38. Temperature at 12:01 am. waa 3t degrees. SAXKM PKXCmTATIOH Since Start eX Weather Tear Sent, I This Tear Last Tear 20.73 Normal Uil 4.4S December 6. 1952 ggSSZSSsmm r Jefferson: Mrs. Walter Hardy, Ore K. Yantes, Wilmington, Ohio; JJr State Board L, MAD SEN The Statesman in for a bit of criticism Friday try had been educated to the need of dentistry. The Oregon dental school equip ment is far behind and the Board of Education has built music and speech buildings and beef barns while the dental school has had to go begging, he said. Need of doctors in rural com' munities was also decried by ru ral leaders. "If you want good doctors in the rural areas, you've got to sell the idea to the doctors' wives," Dr. Edmund K. Yantes, secretary of the Clinton County Health Coun cil, Wilmington, Ohio, told the more than 200 people in attend ance. "You don't have quite so much trouble selling the doctors on a small community, but the wives take a little selling before they realize the excellent points of such living, he continued. He told of the organization of the Clinton Council and urged that rural health councils be formed and supported in all communities. "You can do a heck of a lot more in your own community than you can get done by depend ing upon state and federal help You know the needs of your own group, he said. In answer to the shortage of doctors in smaller communities, Dr. Yantes answered that too fre quently the people themselves were to blame. "You call your home doctor out at S o'clock in the morning on an emergency, and when you need work done that Is planned ahead of time you go to a city physician who probably can't give you any better if as good care," he said. Dr. Harold J. Noyes, chairman of the Oregon Rural Health Coun cil, presided at the morning ses sion, and Mrs. Buelah Moore, State Grange lecturer, at the aft ernoon meeting. (Additional details on page 12.) Swiss Failed To Reach Top NEW DELHI, India OS3) Reli able reports reaching here Sat urday from Katmandu, capital of neighboring Nepal, said a Swiss expedition attempting to climb Mt. Everest highest peak in the world! was beaten back by buf feting winds and 30-degrees-be-low-zero cold. The reports said the Swiss climbers abandoned their attempt Nov. 20.. No one has ever reached the peak of Mt. Everest, more than 29,000 feet high, and returned to tea about it. ALCOA Bite in Power Output Brings Protest TACOMA m A strong protest against a 36,000 kilowatt bite from the Northwest power pool , was voiced here Friday night. ".,- The Tacoma Central Labor Coun cil objected to the new Aluminum potline which is to be cut in at Wena tehee by the Aluminum Com pany of America. r , '-1 y "fi si 1 'J PRICE So No. 256 Gen. Mac ; . Claims 'Solution' NEW YORK OB Gen. Douglas Mac Arthur said Friday night there is a clear and definite solu tion to the Korean conflict" with out unduly increasing casualties or furthering the risk of world war. He declined to disclose his plan publicly in a speech before the National Association of Manufac turers at the Waldorf - Astoria Hotel, but implied a willingness to present his views to President elect Eisenhower. The former Far East command er, who withheld any endorsement of Eisenhower during the recent political campaign, made several friendly references to him in his speech. He said also it is "our duty as citizens to rally in firm sup port of the new administration to help it fulfill its pledge to re store to the nation a prosperity "based upon sound rather than il lusory considerations. MacArthur, ousted from his Far East post by President Truman and now chairman of the board of Remington Rand, Inc., said the present course in Korea was lead ing toward a world war. "There has been a material change in conditions from those of 20 months ago when I left the scene of action, and the solution then available and capable of suc cess is not now entirely applicable "A present solution involves basic decisions which I recognize as improper for public disclosure or discussion, but which in my opinion can be executed without either an unduly heavy price in friendly casualties or any in crease danger of provoking uni versal conflict. MacArthur s speech gave no hint of how the "change in con ditions might alter the proposals he made 20 months ago for bring ing the war to an end. His proposals then Included bombing of Red Chinese bases in Manchuria, blockading the Red China coast, and utilizing Chiang Kai - Shek's Nationalist Chinese forces stationed on Formosa. Lie Discharges Nine Employes And Warns All UNIHED NATIONS, N. Y. UV U. N. Secretary eneral Trygve Lie fired nine more American em ployes Friday for refusing to an swer Questions about alleged sub versive activiti' put to them by the McCarran committee. He warned his 3,000 employes in a formal statement that he would take the same action in future cases, as has been recom mended by a panel of three inter national jurists. His action brings to 18 the num ber sacked during 1952 for the refusals which the panel told Lie created a "climate of suspicion." In a related development, Mau rice Pate, director of the United Nations International Children s Emergency Fund (UNICEF), ac cepted the resignation of Ruth Elizabeth Crawford. She told the committee when she testified that she had been a Com munist In the 1930s. Storm Winds, Rain Continue A Western Orecron storm con tinued to lash Salem with gusts reaching 44 miles per hour Friday evening and a total ox ju men oi rain reported for the day. Prdirtion bv weathermen at McNary Field for today indicated rain in the morning and showers in the afternoon. Heavy rainfall through Wednes dav was forecast in the Weather Bureau's five-day outlook. Friday the wind was consider ably lighter than Thursday's when gusts reached 70 miles an hour on the coast. ' State police reported early Sat urdav mornine there was about one-inch of snow on the highway between Tansent and Harrisburg and an Albany telephone operator said that snow was failing -quite hard" there early Saturday morn ing. Pittsburgh Blast Kills 3 Children rrXTSBURGO VP, A relent explosion which Fire Chief Stephen Adley said was set off by a gas accumulation reduced a - three - story hosse te bomb like rabble in the northaide see tion ef Plttaburrh late last night. At least three children were -killed and three ethers are misa ing: : :. , ... . , - ...... - . i - t - . r Spreading War, He Assures Mamie Just Glad It's Over NEW YORK Ufr Like any wom an at vigil s end, Mrs. Mamie relief Friday (when she learned her husband was safely out of oKrea. "I'm glad that everything's all right and he's coming home," she said through a secretary. Mrs. Eisenhower heard the news on a radio broadcast at 7 a. m. (EST) then she settled down hi a housecoat in front of the television set in hopes of seeing her husband on the screen. She did not see reporters but issued a statement im which she said: "I am very grateful for the pray ers that have been offered by peo ple all over the world for the safety of the general and those who are accompanying him." 3 GIs Aghast As Ike Eats Beside Them By 8AM SUMMERLIN WITH U. S. THIRD DIVISION IN KOREA (Delayed) UP) President - elect Dwight D. Eisen hower sidestepped the generals Wednesday,, and ate Army chow with three awed U. S. soldiers seated in the icy open. Cameras clicked as he sat on a pinebox, and cleaned up a meal of grilled pork chop, sauerkraut and pie with evident relish. The three soldiers were so flab bergasted they hardly opened their mouths, either to eat or speak. They are Sgt. Jack R.Hutcheron of Frankford, Mo.; Cpl. James A. Murray of Muskogee, Okla., and PFC Caster Skudlarck of Avon, Minn. Eisenhower had stood in the chow line like everyone else and enlisted men dropped the food on his plastic tray. Then he walked with the three soldiers. Eisenhower chatted and laughed. He asked the three soldiers about the war, rotation and Army cook ing. Their answers, if any, were lost In the general confusion around them. Once Eisenhower looked up at the news cameramen who were shooting pictures.1 "You fellows sure do make It difficult to eat a decent meal." he said. "You should have enough shots to last six nonths." Once he remarked to the three soldiers: "I hit you on a good day I sure like sauerkraut." When the meal was done there was still one more big moment for the soldiers three. Eisenhower had cleaned his tray when a major came up and told him the generals and other mem bers of the Eisenhower party were eating in a nearby tent. "You mean all the brass is in there? Eisenhower asked, flash ing his famous smile. He asked if the three soldiers could come with him and the major quickly said "Yes, sir." The President - to-be and the three soldiers, in winter battle grab and rifles slung over their shoulders, headed into the"brass" tent. After the Eisenhower party, had left, an officer nrticed the three soldiers, still rather bewildered by their moment in the limelight. "Take care of those boys," the officer told Lt, James Boatner, son of the general whostamped -out Red prisoner riots on Koje Island. "Those boys will be in a daze for a few days," the officer add- ed.with a smile. Son Serves As Ike Aide WITH U. S. FIRST MARINE DI- day smilingly reprimanded Maj. John Eisenhower for straying too for from his father, the president elect. "You're the general's aide." Van Fleet told John, "That's your Job. Photographers had asked Dwight D. Elsenhower to pose with his son. Twice, Dee looked around but John had wandered away from the big crowd of visitors and top brass touring the Marine division head quarters. John, a major with the U. S. Third Division, had been given leave to tour with his father. A few minutes before the Eisen hower party took off to inspect another unit, John showed up at the division airstrip. "I'm proud of all these Army brats," remarked Eisenhower, smiling at his tall son. He also mentioned the name of the son of Maj. Gen. Lewis Hershey, the draft husband: was safely out of Korea, director. Young Hershey was wounded while fighting in Korea. VENEZUELA STRIKE FAILS CARACAS, Venezuela (Jf) An attempted nationwide strike which the new provisional government blamed on its political opponents appeared today to have failed. TREATY VOTE FAVORABLE BONN, 1 Germany (P)-Parlia-ment gave a substantial semi-final vote -of approval' early Saturday to West Germany's treaties of al liance with the West. By DON WITH EISENHOWER ABOARD THE USS HELENA OFF GUAM W) President-elect Dwight D. Eisenhower (completed a three-day close hand inspection of the Korean War situation Friday night, flew to Guam Saturday and boarded the heavy cruiser Helena. On the leisurely trip home, he will study the information he gathered. : j En route to Pearl Harbor, the cruiser is expected to pick up John Foster Dulles, to be secretary of state in Eisenhower's Cabinet, for a review of the entire Far East problem. 1 Eisenhower's quest for a "positive and definite" victory formula in Korea had been rapid-fire and one whicli he said required time to "digest" the mass of information he had acjcumulated. He was confident of ultimate success in the war against the Com munists, but foresaw no quick or Sailing Home on Cruiser Eisenhower flew from Korea time. A few minutes later he boarded the Helena, with tailors and ship's officers gathered on the deck craning fdr a glimpse of him. He was accompanied by Adra. Arthur Radford, Pacific Fleet commander. The Helena pulled away from the dock at 6:30 sum. and headed eastward. Eisenhower and his party gathered on the deck in mild 72-degree weather to sharp contrast to the near-zero Korean temperatures they had left little more than eight hours earlier, f Eisenhower was expected to discuss with Dulles the policy his new administration will take in aiding South Korea both economical-) ly, and f'ulitarily. - . .' The general said in a press conference Saturday the South Ko rean government and people needed outside help in the fight against tne neas. Due in Hawaii on Dec. The Helena was expected to believed the general would spend ing back to his New York headquarters In three dramatic, action-packed days, the President-elect had viewed the war up close, talked the ranks and with officials of mm: & Leaves Rhee More Confident 1. A statement that, while there was no easy solution to the Ko rean problem, "much can be done, much will be done" to improve the situation without spreading the war to the Chinese Communitt main land. - 2. A promise that the South Korean Army will get "bigger and better" during his administration, and that economic aid will con tinue. I 3. A vastly cheered President Syngman I Rhee, described by a spokesman as "more confident than ever" after his talks with the general. I . , Eisenhower also held private dis cussions about Formosa with Maj. Gen. William Chase, head of the U. S. military mission to the Chi nese Nationalists. Unarmed and bundled In a parka, he traveled by jeep and light plane across razor-edged mountains to within a few miles of the stagnant battlefield. No Panaceas for Peace Then he left at 8:01 p. m. Friday night, as quietly and secretly as he had come Tuesday night. If the 10,836-mile trip had in spired a solution of the war that has raged up and down this land of cold and misery for nearly 30 months, he did not Immediately say so. At a press conference in Seoul he said that we came over to learn. We have no panaceas, no trick ways of i.3ttling any prob lems." "How difficult it seems to be in a war of this kind." he added, "to work out a plan that would bring a positive and definite victory with out possibly running grave risk of enlarging the war. "There are many limitations on a war of this kind, but this much is certain. . . much can be done in my opinion to improve our posi tion much will be done. Soldiers Gain Confidence He conferred three times with President Rhee at U. S. Eighth Army headquarters-, again on the battlefield and at Rhees hillside mansion near Seoul. The two exchanged notes which were not made public immediately. Eisenhower told the press, "I am far from a defeatist . . freedom is bound to be successful." The visit skyrocketed hopes of soldiers bogged 'down in the near- zro cold of Korea's third winter of "war. Soldier after soldier told correspondents the trip gave them hope that if a way to peace can be found,' Eisenhower would find it. On his way home, the new Ameri can president expected to meet oth er members of his staff and study the first-hand reports he had re- ceived "to be better-able to pursue a policy of supporting freedom," he told the news conferee. . Promises Economic Aid ' American industry, he said, would be "always . in shape" . to f give that support. He promised to give Korea econ omic, help for a long time to come, but gave no inkling of his military plans. Eisenhower began b'i secrecy shrouded flight before dawn Sat urday. He slipped out of New York and drove under cover of darkness to Mitchel Field Air Base on Long Island. i Members of his 16-man official party met him there. Included were Charles E. Wilson of Detroit, who will be the new secretary of defense; Gen. Omar N.J Bradley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff; and Herbert Brownell of New York, who will be attorney general in the new Republican administra tion. 1 . The general's sleek Constellation carried a double crew of 22 so a rested hand would always be at every control. Presidentelect did not leave the plane until it reached Iwo Jima. i At the other stops all members of the party remained in the official plane as did those in a second Constellation which carried mem bers of the press. Crews hastily fined the tanks. Then the planes climbed hastily back into the skies. (Additional details on page 2.) PRESS IETTERS HTP, 1 - SANTIAGO, "Chile The First World Congress of; Newspa permen, a Latin-American organ ization, adopted - a resolution Fri day condemning all restrictions against freedom of the press, , WOTTEm easy solutior to Guam, arriving at 5:30 a.m. Guam 11 dock in Pearl Harbor Dec. 11. It was two or three days there before fly- to high military advisers and men in the Korean republic. He left behind Navy Secretary Eases Blast at AF Criticism WASHINGTON I m Secretary of the Navy Dan A. Kimball came up with a) new blast in the re curring row between the Navy and. the Air Force Friday night but softened his remarks at the last moment. I Kimball prepared a speech for the annual meeting of the Navy League which was in effect a re tort to a recent Air Force criti cism that the nation has "not one Air Force but four," including the Naval air arm. A few hours before the time set for delivering the speech, how ever. Navy! public relations offi cers revised the wording of two paragraphs ) at Kimball's request. The amended version read: "I am somewhat disturbed when I hear people in a spirit of criti cism Imply) that when any one of the services has a weapon that another service is also using, this Is a great waste. I disagree with this. "Each of the services ha. cer tain functions and operations where different weapons are nec essary. We ) each must use them as they are suited for our pur-- poses and pur missions. It is ri diculous to say, for example, that only one service can use guns, 1 or trucks, or any of the millions of items that eaci and all of the services need individually U coma to a common end which has to be victory .f In the original form Kimball had written that he was "more ' than slightly disturbed by people say ing we have four Air .Forces." He declared . "the airplane Is a weapon, not) a way of life." i Assembly Votes Study i Of S. Africa Racism UNITED 'NATIONS. N. Y. (J" The U. N. General Assembly voted . S5 to 1 Friday for a U. N. commis sion study of riotous race conflicts In' Seuth Africa. Twenty - three countries abstained, including Bri tain, the Ui S. and France. Only the South African delegation voted against the resolution spon sored by Mrs. Pandit's Arab-Asian group. j These Are Days of Christmas Values Salem merchants are offering the widest; choice of Christmas merchandise in history these lays and I The Statesman is proud of the privilege of pre senting their story. Special pages and! special sections of advertising will be the order of the day from now until Christ mas. All business sections of the city are reporting a fine re sponse to the offerings of un usual values. Both the 'Down town Merehaata Association, which held its first tag-Santa event of the year last night' and the Capitol Shopping Cen ter, which! presented its Christ mas merchandising: program In a special 8-page section of The Statesman j Friday, are cooper ating to make this holiday sea son one of easy and economical shopping for everyone.