The Oregon daily journal. (Portland, Or.) 1902-1972, October 06, 1921, Page 10, Image 10

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S 8EAI,1 BERT C. RITE.
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5 liberality comuts lea ' 4i ' gtting' pa-'
ZSrorly than in airing Judict jbsIj. La
tuyere. ,
MR. REED AND MR. tAWES
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SENATOR REED of Missouri dis-
. likes the plan 'whereby Charles
GJ Dawes is given power to . reduce
-expenses in the administration at
Washington. He denounces It as
v Itbpudent and a deflance-of the cori
j gTessional power.' i t
.' It would seem vtq i the laymen
, though of course he may be mistaken:
3out matters legal and govern -
rnentaJ, and especially congressional
- f-that tha plan to reduce expenses
la the .departments and put them on
business basis Is entirely legal, not
.necessarily a usurpation of congres-
icJonal power, and certainly purpose-
. ol and commendable. Of course,
, tfiings may not be done at Washing-
tin Just as they are done in the ordl
t" nary business enterprises of the day
' -e-some public officials apparently
J hjave patents on their way of doing
, Gisiness and attempts to change
Processes at Washington whereby the
- iublic4s to benefit are frequently op-
rBsed. Senator Reed knows some
thing about the opposition to thej
Ajeagus of Nations and 'the udgk
1 ltan, and. of course. Senator Reed
. pay". believe that the mere fact that
te public Is already groastnr tmrfer
fixes should have no weight in 'the
ajreraises. He thinks congress should
do the paring of expenses. If paring
13 1 be done, instead of Mr, Dawes.
But there has been a congress Jor
considerably, nore than a : century.
I J. has been working its wonders year
-Ja and year out all that time. Sen
ator Reed has been on the "scene tor
C good many twelvemonth himself.
And the expenses and additional ex
penses, have , continued ' to climb.
Senator Heed might have taken over
Mr.; Dawes Job but he! didnC
As far, as the public is concerned,
it : is not , so - much Interested in
hether the congress or whether Mr.
?- :
Dawes 'reduces " expenses. But the
country waited for tfongress and con
gress, failed to reduce .Now. Mr.
Dawes Is on the Job,' and if it ia all
the. saxhe to' Mr.' Reed," the' country
would Just 'as soon, (hat Mr.iUawes
stay there . c - ' ' " .
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Hie Panama canal has a depth of
40 feet. . ThS fIumbla. harboi1 en
trance has a depth of "42 eet at' Jow
tlde. i Aay ship that' can pass tltrough
the Panama canar can enter the Co-lumbla,-
3? - :'ap&: :t
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: WHEN" IS MORALITY ?
HEN you reiftd newspapers .that
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yiuuaiy ' viister. : jkroucaie ana
Boy? Gardner and. In the same-' pa
pers, read excuses and apologies for
Newberry, i do .. you wonder 'Vhere
you-are atM and why Is morals?
. Probably-vyou thlnlt; that disbursing-
hundreds of thousands of dollars
of slush moey through use of
Brother 1 Johhsheck book In the
corruption of voters is very wrong-.
Probably you think that violating the
Michigan law and the United States
law against corrupt us of money in
elections Is Just as reprehensible as
violating the law by, robbing . the
United States mails or the law
against disgusting; booze parties.
The trouble Is that you are old
fashioned. You see Truman ' and
Brother John .are in our set, some
what exclusive, so to speak. There
is no smell of the barnyard or the
slop barrel on them. "
And you see Truman Is a financier.
Wasn't he director pf the Big Six lim
ited and president-of the Under
ground Stlck-'Em-Vp ad the head
and' front of divers big enterprises?
Can a big corporation head do
wrong? Certainly not. The court
and Jury that .tried to' send him to
the. penitentiary for using! Brother
John's check book in the election
were crasy.
Besides, what's the law and the
constitution among friends? What's
a few fool' laws Against corruption
in elections in comparison with a
party majority in the senate ? What's
the need of being particular about a
man's past or his use of Brother
John's check book. for membership
in the United States senate, anyway?
Some people seem to think that the
senate is a Purity League or a Society
for Promoting Decency in Elections.
Anyway, what's the good of money
if you cannot use it in elections, es
pecially when you can do it through
Brother John's bank account? Isn't
it a good thing to give the voters of
Michigan a chance to turn an honest
penny once in a while when a cam
paign is pn? Weren't Brother. Tru
man and Brother John slaving for
the "common people" when their
campaign committee was slipping all
that money into the horny hands of
the sons of toil all over Michigan?
The Jury and the federal court in
Michigan that sentenced Brother
Truman .to the penitentiary ought to
be recalled.
POLICING THE POLICE STATION
THE city council has adopted a fer
tile field , for investigation in
questioning" costs, the necessity "for
costs, and what comes from expendi
tures in the police department., With
only 12 men of the day relief for pa
trol work and with the -cost of the.
department approximately . s double
what it was three years ago, it Is not
only the right of th council, but the
duty of that body, to examine where
the money goes and what Is given In
return.
There are plenty of men down at
Second and Oak to man the desks.
But there is a communication on
file with the city council from the
head of that department ask'ing for
60 additional men. to do police work.
Why not take some of the policemen
from the police station and permit
them to do the work for which they
are paid? Why not place clerks in
5lerks' jobs, and policemen in police
men's jobs, instead of trying to make
clerks out' of policemen? Why not
employ mechanics to do mechanics'
work, carpenters to do carpenters'
work, stenographers to do stenog
raphers' work, and let policemen do
policemen's work? There are 400
policemen and policewomen em
ployed by the city, and there are 13
men to patrol beats during the day
time. There are certain special squads in
he police department doing, excel
lent work. And there are special
squads with men and men and men.
But (hey are all specialists, and few
common, ordinary, everyday, un spe
cialized police.1 v Perhaps' the special
ists are the latest wrinkle In police
circles; perhaps they are the thing;
perhaps they should all be specialists,
but it is quite certain that policemen
should be policemen of some kind,
and not specialists in polio clerk
ing, police accounting and .police or
namentation at the police station.
At Big Rapids, Michigan. Judge
Dresscher rented a theater, called
a mass meeting of mothers, and read
me not act to mem.' He' "was
wrought up over the large number
6f "Bhotgun" marriages he has been
called upon to-, perform, in . recent
months, and he,proceeded to tell .the
mothers that they were largely re
sponsible, for the shame of their eons
and daughters. He declared that
the immorality is epidemic and an
prdpriately declared that with youths
roaming the streets at all hours of
uieK night, the American home f is
being undermined. ,
V'-vw THE INSTIGATORS
rpHERE is a phase of the sordid Ar-
buckle case largely ignored by
inquisitors, legal and otherwise,- but
which has not been lost to sight by a
Myrtle Point; reader of .The Journal
Booze, was at the bottom of the af-
lair, remarks H. E. Glazier. . . Where
did he get the booze? he asks. , Then
adds, frankly: "
For years I was a boose fighter. I
know that ft brings out th bestial in
human nature. Let the law roete out. to
Arbuckle. what la due him according to
law. But by all, means make him ray
where he got" the boose. Then give the
vendors the limit of penalty pteacribett
by the liquor laws, r This done. Jet the
people of California. Oregon and every
other state make the. manufacture of
liquors and the handling - and sale of
same punishable by much more severe
penalties .thata at present.
' This comment comes . from a re
mote' point In ,Oregon;..But In places
large and small there is a growing
wonder- in the minds .of people who
believe In Iaw enforcement. They
cannot understand why officials ob
ligated by oath are apparently so lax
in , enforcing .the prohibition . law.
They cannot understand why penal?
ties are so light and how bootleggers
can operate so openly.
They wonder, why churches, organ
ized bodies of ministers and anti
booze societies do not summon offi
cers of law;: enforcement into 'a lead
ership which shall purge the country
of an Illicit traffic. .-
Has the prohibition law broken
down? - .a .
. From the American Mining con
gress comes the statement that "the
present known "reserves of high-grade
iron ore, -Vbased upon the constantly
expanding requirements of the steel
industry,- will be exhausted m 20
years." fThe developers of iron mines
in-Columbia county, near Scappoose,
recently assured the people of Port
land, that high-grade iron ore, 1. e.,
ore which is more than half iron, is
to be round in that district in suffi
cient quantity to meet , the needs of
Portland's Industry for 100 years.
Here's hoping that the latter state
ment is true and that, being true,
neither the steel trust nor the trans
continental railroads succeed in sti
fling production.
A LIFE FOR FIVE DOLLARS
6TjiOR a41 the crimes of my life I
- have not realised "15." That is the
testimony of a 76-year-old man on
the occasion of his latest arrest for
tbe-ft- B:e confesses ' a criminal ca
reer of 59 years. Half of it he has
spent in .'prison. He now faces
another term which indicates his
probable death behind the gray walls
of a penitentiary. And in all his
criminal operations, extending over
a period of 59 years, he has "not
realized $5."
The little family with which he
started out in life are scattered and
gone. Though he still lives the chil
dren have buried the name f their
sire. The- mother who held him oh
her knee and believed in' Mm to the
last.was hurried to Jjerigrave'by "his
.wayward ways of liyingHls brothers
and sisters, long ago banished from
their thoughts as best they could the
recollections of him who was . their
favored playmate in." childhood.
The statement of the aged criminal
should be of interest to those young
men who in recefct years have taken
up a life of criminality. Their opera
tions will het-hem but little. They
will go through- life, perhaps meet
death, in penitentiary as this aged
Criminal ' promises to do. lAnd be
sold "his life for a paltry $5.
-THE SUPER-INVESTMENT
REALIZING that the diff er
ene. btvin an Tclrfmr '-rv on
Igorrote and an average American
is mainly a matter of education, ear
nest men and women in Oregon are
striving to raise by contribution
money for wiping out a deficit and
further - endowing Pacific university.
The Eskimo eats blubber, lives in
dirt and stench as he 'did 1000 years
ago. The Igorrote has his dog soup
for i delicacy and the leaner and
bonier the dog, according to his idea,
the better the soup. Birth, racial in
stincts and environment have some
thing to do with the ideals of both;
but an education that would give
them vision of a life with more of
living and scope and usefulness in
It would lift both out of their
squalor. r
When' you give money to a Chris
tian college you make an investment
in human welfare. The output of
such an institution under all ordinary
circumstances becomes a pillar in the
social order for the advancement of
civilization, for the safety and greater
usefulness of life and for the protec
tlon of your property.
Every nation in the world Is in a
near crisis. Civilization is strained
to, the breaking point. Cabinets,
parliaments and congresses, facing
colossal war debts, are striving to
contrive ways for collecting money
to pay, those debts without letting
their people know the full limit of-j
the sums that are being levied.
There never' was a time in the
world when there was so much need
for people to be trained through
education to be able to think. If
you contribute a few dollars or many
dollars "to' such institutions as Pa
cific university, it will go into hands
that klhow the' value "of money and
how and where to place It to give
you the most in standard citizenship.
THE PIaACE TO BEGIN
SIXTY miles an hour is a tremen
. dous pace. That and more is. the
speed at which a motorist is reported
to have been traveling between Salem
and .Portland. ' An automobile at
tempted to catch him and failed. A
motorcycle tried -, and failed. The
fleecing machine 'passed other cars
on thV straightaway. It passed them
on .th curves, It stopped ; for
nothing, recognized no safety rules,
nV law, no nothing. r It . was a mad
dash p"with nothing in mind save
speed, speed and more speed.
" On the occasion of the late dash
nothing occurred" But, automobiles
speeding across the highways of Ore
gon, at (0 miles an hour and, more
can mean only one thing death to
the occupants of the speeding na
chine or of other cars. It is a prac
tice that must be curbed, and there
Is not a better, place to begin than
on the' driver of the Portland-Salem
juggernaut.' 'He has a ; driver's li
censee :Take it-away and let-him
walk-' until he can learn" to "respect
the laws of Oregon. ' , - t
Is It; coincidence or' accident that
most - men who - appear In pictures
with 'their hats on are found to .be
bald when "encountered with their
hats off? ' " -
KENYON AND THE BENCH
THE"country would suffer "grave
loss if Senator Kenyon, Repub
lican, of. Jtowa were ? to abandon this
seat iiw the . senate for a tendered
judgeship in his own state.
HThe lbwa progressive Is tone of the
clean, high-minded, fearless and in
telligent men in the senate. He is
not owned. He does not, stoop .to
play? partisan politics. He does not
quail under pressure, and he is always
prepared to fight the battles of the
common people of .the country. Mr.
Kenyon , is one of the few big men in
the senate, and any appointment that
would remove the capable senator to
a burial ground in Iowa would be an
appointment detrimental to the best
interests of the nation. '
It is not unlikely that the proffer
of the Iowa' judgeship was brought
about by interests that would like to
see Senator Kenyon absent from his
seat in the upper house jot congress.
pUYING OUK'AN
f .' ARCHDUKE ,
American Syndicate's Venture in Buy
ing; Up the Salvage of the House
of Hapsburg Proves an Attractive
Theme to American Editors, Who
See Trouble in It for All Con-
cerned, and Little Besides
Romantic Truly j, but" Dan
gerous in Every Aspect. ' !
Daily Editorial Digest
(Consolidated Press Aasoejation)
Some of the ingredients of a best
seller romance, adventure, a gambling
chance Oh a "great killing," Yankee
enterprise and international complica
tions are found by our editorial writers
in, the story of the sale of immensely
valuerble Hapsburg holdings in Austria
Hungary to a syndicate of American
business men. For romance they point
toi the fact that through the fortunes
of war vast imperial estates that for
six centuries have been held by divine
right bow to the might of the American
dollar. The adventure lies in the fight
to secure title by contesting the- claim
to possession which will be made by
the countries embracing the estates,
claims which they will hold -are secured
by treaty, making it, as one writer puts
it, "the greatest international gamble
since the sale of French rjghts in the
Panama canal."
, But from the viewpoint of many
editors the story is not all romance.
Rather it involves social and political
aspects that make the venture objection
able. They see danger in -American
exploitation of the great industries ac
quired, thus increasing alien ownership
in countries which are striving to
abolish absenteeism and to break up
enormous industrial holdings. Political
ly it Contains serious possibilities which
these writers 'warn against, and they
insist that in the struggle for possession
which the purchasing syndicate will
make the principle of caveat emptor
must apply, since the United States can
not be palled upon to guarantee,' their
investment.
Purchase of "the possessions of one
of the Austrian archdulres" by wealthy
Americans appeals to the Ithaca Journal
News (Ind.) as "a striking indication
of the way the world 1s being turned
topsy-turvy," since, as the Kansas City
Journal (Rep) says, "it is difficult, to
Imagine" the royal Hapsburg line .in
the days of its glory "bargaining with'
a group" of American capitalists over
what they believed to be theirs by the.
right of divine Inheritance." Now,
howftVer, the Journal suggests, they
seem to have awakened to the old
American adage. "Money talks." Amer
ican millionaires, the New York Globe
(Ind.) remarks, "are getting more and
more on terms of equality with Euro
pean, royalty," even to the extent, the
Boston Globe (Ind.) adds,' of "getting
very chummy with the Hapsburgs" ; but,
the New York paper continues, while
"the- incident puts the stock of royalty
a- little lower than ever before," it does
not "particularly raise the stock of the
American millionaire," since if he wins
"he is a .successful gambler," if he
loses he "will still seem-a little like the
Archduke Frederick."
.' " ;
-But with all Its romantic appeal, the
venture presents legal obstacles that
make it a risk, for, as the New London
(Conn.) Day .(Rep.) points out, "It is
doubtful if authority exists which can
compel these nations to part with prop
erty they wish, for'.- themselves." This
phase of the case the Indianapolis Star
(Ind. Rep.) gives thus: "A large part
of the property has been confiscated
by" the governments which have arisen
on the ruins of the Austro-Hungarian
empire., and before the syndicate can
profit by its purchase it must prove that
confiscation of the property was a vio
lation of the treaty of St. Germain."
: It requires "a large degree of opti
mism," the Norfolk Virgintan-Pilot (Ind.
Dem.) thinks, "to imagine Czecho
slovakia, Jugoslavia, Poland. Italy and
even Austria. doing the handsome thing
ana releasing sucn parts oi ui arcn
duke's - landed and industrial holdings
as have been sequestered," and the
New Orleans Times .Picayune Ind.
Dem.) - "cannot conceive of Austria al
lowing herself to- be stripped of ancient
and revered possessions in order that
a former archduke may live in luxury
while Austrians starve." ; The Augusta
Chronicle (Dem.), points out .that Arch
duke Frederick claims that he is "not
a member of the reigning family," that
the 'property in question '. is his own
private fortune and as such is protected
from confiscation by the terms of the
treaty. Most Americans, however, the
Brooklyn Eagle (Ind. Dem.) suggests,
"will be inclined to .accept with many
grains of salt the assertion that; this
mammoth property was accomulated by
Frederick without the" 'aid Of royu
grants or 'concessions, , purely through
his marvelous skill in investing money."
But aside from the litigation ' and
"tremendous, international sensation'
growing out of the project, the Spring
field Republican (Ind.) predicts that it
will "cause .much bitterness and con
tribute to the spirit of unrest in Europe
aa- well, for' .lf the concentration of
great wealth in" the possession of royal
families was causing ill feeling, transfer
off the property -to foreign ownership
is not likely to have a soothing effect."
- The desire of Kurope, the NewarM
Nws (Ind.) potntat- oat. baa been to
break up the great estates of the dis
possessed monarchs and royal families,
and- while the Washington Post and.)
feels that "it would mean - much to
the war-stricken countries where' the
various ' interests are 'located to have
American capital and enterprise devoted
to the building up of languishing proje
thav Mamoiav Ktavr 4 Ind. ' Kan.) faau-m
that "there may be a feeling ' of resent
ment over the disposal of the property
to -absentee owners thousands of. miles
away." and the Raleigh N- C) News
and Cibserrer,Deni.) eeea "danger that
the property wilt; be administered s as
so much similar pi'oprirty la administered
in this country with the lowest possible
return to iabor'and the greatest possible
I CtUI If fcu lUTCSWI .
Further, the Topeka Capital (Rep.)
warns, the venture "threatens to Involve
the United States in a, controversy witfc
the new state" carved out or Auatrta.
"the last place on the globe where this
country "would wish .to see, dolUr
diplomacy- enter as - a new rector."
The Rochester Times Union find.) hopes
that the promoters of 'this scheme "will
not copy some investors in Mexico who
want our government to guarantee title
and returns on their speculative pur
chases" and the Johnstown Democrat
(Dem.) "prays that i no i International
complications may grow, out of - the
transaction.' because "Uncle Sam .has
shown himself ready to underwrite al
most anything representatives of Amer
ican - Big Business, may happen to ac
quire, anywhere." However.,, there is
"no necessity for' the (government of
the United States to become involved."
the Philadelphia Bulletin (Ind. Rep.)
declares, because "the protection which
this government accords its ciuaens in
foreign lands does not include a guar
antee of every , bargain they may pick
up.1 -" --": . - -'
' Letters From the People
i OornmunicaHona sent) to The Journal: for
publication fn this department should be written
on only one sue of to paper: aacauu not exctta
SOO words in JenstJk. and must be. aicned br tb
writer, whose mail address in full must aecom-
LODGE, ROOT AND THE REST
Assertion That. Disarmament Hopeless
in the Hands of Such Men. ,
Portland. Oct. S. To the Editor of The
Journal The press of 'the country is
giving much space to the personalities
of the American representatives in the
armament copference.- The most strik
ing thing about the appointments is that
they are all old men and lawyers, with
the lawyer's point of view, that the more
trouble we have the more grist will come
to the legal mill. ; Of the four who will
represent the United States, not one of
them can be considered even . remotely
to share the hopes of the people of this
or any ether country for a better-world.
They belong to an age that is' past and
out of plumb' with the present day ".and
its problems. v To expect anything worth
while from Lodge, Root and Underwood
is only to be disappointed in - the end.
Not one of them ia on record as opposed
to war because of the cruelty and. suf
fering it has entailed. Their hearts, like
Pharoh's of old, lure hardened against
the masses in their struggles and aspira
tions for a more equable way of living,
and every act of their past lives, in a
legislative way, has been in favor of
those who profit from wars. ,
If President Harding were acting for
the majority he would have appointed
delegates to the conference whose mental
mood would typify the sentiment of the
country for the abolishment of war. With
Lodge and Root at the council table the
armor manufacturer. , and. munition
maker will have two representatives, who
will always have an- eye and ear cocked
for their interests. Every' voter should
keep hiSv eye on Washington when the
conference meets, and every voter- should
likewise demand . that no star chamber
meetings be held. R. Harrlgan.
- SOME QUESTIONS . '
Multnomah Hospital, ' Portland, Oct.
4. To the Editor of The Journal Here
are some questions I would like to see
answered in your paper :
Why do the reformers always get
busy investigating the entire movie
business Jt an individual happens to
be suspected 'of doing something wrong?
When a minister of 'the gospel takes
a notion to kill someone, why do not
the reformers get busy and investigate
all the churcheB?
Why is not cleanliness necessary In
the county hospital ' as well as in a
private hospital?
"Why are all the reformers who visit
the county hospital interested in the
saving of a person's soul, while no. one
seems to care what becomes of the
body?
. Why does not the Rev. John Lake
go to the county hospital and heal all
the sick ones there?
,. -. "A Journal Reader.
" 1 HOLOGRAPH WILL .4
Portland, Oct. 1. To the Editor of The
Journal Is a holograph will a legal
document? If so, please instruct me how
to frame one as. to -Witnesses, etc.
. Reader.
A holograph will ia .a legal document in
Oregon. It -should be so drawn aa to state
definitely and clearly the intention of the tes
tator with respect to the-jdisposition of hia prop
erty. It should be witnessed by two persons
who are not beneficiaries tinder the will.
ANSWER TO "JBVOLUTIOXIST"
Orthodox Believer Accuses Him of Try
ing, to Rid Himself of God.
Philomath. Oct. 4. To the. Editor of
The Journal I am glad he called it the
evolutionary "theory." .Most any theory
will stand the test of people who are
trying to rid themselves of God. But for
me, a half-dozen facts are worth a bushel
of theories. Any successful stockraiser
will tell you that without intelligent se
lection of breeding stock animals breed
down, not upward. (It seems to me we
have run against a God, first thing.)
If .we were evolved from the lower anl
nals, there would be no missing link.
There would be plenty of one-fourth,
one-half and three-fourths human. It
would take as great power to change one
of the laws of nature or God, which
ever you call it as. it would to create S
man. (You have found God again.) If
you have to acknowledge a God, why not
take his explanation of the world and
man? The Bible says God made man of
the-dust-of the!earth- Our bodies are
nourished by the plants, we eat or from
the animals that live on the plants, which'
draw their substance from the earth.
The evolutionary theory never yet took
a man out of the gutter and made a re
spectable man of him and made him sup
port his family in comfort, or rescued a
fallen woman and made a respectable
woman of her. How long would "Evolutionist"-
wish to Mve in this world if- we
all accepted his .theory land lived as if
wei believed it? I am afraid Russia
would be mild. Uas "Evolutionist" ever
read "his Bible thrdugh, or is be Just
swallowing someone's theories - without
looking to see -what, they, are made of?
There are a number of -proofs of the
inspiration of the' Bible, if he cares for
them. -V A Christian. ,
Uncle Jeff Snow Says"
There's alius a lot of old duffers and
sanctified "chap and old maida av-hollerin'
about the wicked, and degenerated
young folks, Laws-a-me, what wicked,
no-account, worthless,- vicious," th levin'
critters the young fellers is! And as fer
the young women I They don't dress
right, they dont dance right,, they don't
set right,? they go -to movies and out to
parties, and - wear thia stockin's and
paint their lips, and dance on the dinner
tables, and their skirts is too short and
their suspenders . too, long, - and 1 so on.
My old geat-granny in Arkinsaw-uster
soold and chatter 'bout, the -wickedness
and sinfulness and' no-acceuntness of
young folks, and she war most 100 year
eld over 69 year ago.- -1 read a book
over 200 year old oncet teMn how
triflin' and degenerated them , young
people was then. : This old world goes
on jlst the" same," and our grandarters
ain't no worse'n . what our grandmas
t a dnra hit , '-,..,- .
COMMENT AND
,.-; SMALL CHANGE
" Seems like the whole "world is1 playing
When eVerybody works but" father, the
old man, sure aa anything, will get inte,
mischief. -- i
Lots , of fellows -wbo aren't baseball
marvels at -aU , are. "hitting the ball
pretty steadily.. --
;: ..-i . . . a ,
A horse caused the death of a little
boy. Dobbin's Just trying to" reestablish
himself in competition with the auto.
'
The headlines bear out the opinion
that the, church is trying to break into
some of the motion picture type of noto
riety. ; .: i , - . ., . ::
-.... ..W U-sr; , ee .Viri;C.v?-v,'
"Five hundred .ex-eervfc- men with
families need Jobs." Where is that old
bunk. 'There's nothing too good for our
soldiers"? . ' -'-. v
.. - . : . ' - -;..-? -"
Calves -are down.? the market editor
reports. ' And we'd - been thinking ' all
the time that it was a mattar o dresses
being up. .
f : - 4
Orecon ia maklnar ahetn with a fa ah Inn
plate if -we-are to believe the news Item
saying, "2 carloads of sheep designed
for Chicago markets shipped Thurs
day." .
"PorUand Still Supreme." a headline
aaysT'aa a Wheat Center." That's good
news, no matter what you ; thought it
would say after reading the first three
words. v
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MORE OR LESS PERSONAL
Random Observations Aljoiit Town
Dr. and Mrs. P. C. Kames of r The-
Dalles have moved s to Portland. Dr.
Barnes will enter the North Pacific
Dental college. Speaking of Dr. Eames"
removal to Portland The Dalles Chron
icle says : "After, more -than eight years
of practice in Wasco county as a vet
erinary surgeon, during which he has
patched up ailing Dobbins and Bossys
for a nominal consideration. Dr. F. C
Eaxnes has at last been compelled to
admit that the present axge ia rapidly
becoming 'horseless' in fact as well as
In theory. Year after yearas the auto
mobile and tractor have become more
popular. Dr. Eames has seen his 'prac
tice' decrease, until at last he began to
realise that something had to be done.
He decided 'that he was not qualified
to become an automobile mechanic,
which would seem the natural occupa
tion a veterinary surgeon would turn to.
Finally, Dr. Eames has decided to enter
the dental profession. He has entered
the North Pacific Dental college in Port
land for a four-year course in dental
surgery. Mrs. Kames is already in Port
land and they expect to take up perma
nent residence there."
. '
W. W. Srheed. a" resident of Morrow
county for the past 42 years, 32 of which
he has spent at Heppner, is spending a
day or so in Portland before returning
to Heppner. For the past eight years
he has been attending the various county
fairs throughout Oregon, displaying the
products of Morrow county.
-'
Bernita Everhard of Molalla, who
was recently operated upon for appendi
citis In Portland, is improving steadily.
Her mother is staying in Portland, a vis
itor at the home of, Lloyd Shaver.
-
Mr. and Mrs. G. M. Blakely, formerly
of Portland 'but more recently of Con
don, have moved out on their stock
ranch near Monument.
Chief of Police Carlson of Astoria is
sojourning for a few days In the .me
tropolis. .
Ferdinand Rost of Astoria has moved
to Portland, having secured a position
with a Portland firm. .
Mr. and Mrs. Clarence Reasman have
moved from La Grande to Portland,
where they expect to make their home.
Charles Thompson of Thompson Bros,
at-Heppner is transacting business in
Portland.
Mr. and Mrs. Perry Strong and daugh
ter Mildred of The Dalles are Portland
visitors.
Miss Sophia Heilbert is here from Al
bany for a few days. .
OBSERVATIONS AND IMPRESSIQNS
OF THE JOURNAL MAN
By Fred
(Here is reintroduced J. W. Cohen, pioneer
of 1847. The story of bis comlnr to .Oregon
wa told a few weeka aco by Mr. Lockley, who
will continue the aarratiT in six installment.
Certain painful episodes of a personal character
are covered in the present installment. 1
J. W. Cullen came to Oregon afoot
He crossed the plains in 1847 with his
parents. "I walked over 2000 miles in
coming to Oregon," Baid Mr. Cullen.
"It was my Job to drive the cows, and
as I had' no pony I went afoot. My
stepfather, Mr. Polk, died near the Cas
cades. When my mother came to Port
land she moved into the first frame
house built in Portland, the lumber for
which was brought by Captain Nathaniel
Crosby around the Horn from Maine.
Mother married Frank DeWitt' The
Rev. J. S. Griffin performed the cere
mony. This was one of the first wed
dings in Portland. My second step
father, Frank DeWitt, was a deep sea
sailor.. He had been a mate' for many
years. AU of the discipline he had
formerly distributed among his. crew he
gave -to me. He was a firm believer
in the efficiency of the rope's end, and
sometimes my back was so bruised and
sore I could hardly sleep.
- " ---- -
"One afternoon1 'when I was 13 years
old he gave me - a particularly severe
beating. I ran from the house hatless
and coatless and, striking out due west,
went through the heavy ' timber from
Fifth street on up the old. Indian, trail
over what is now Kings Heights. .As
I. climbed the trail I beard something
behind me. I was scared, I thought
it was a cougar or a bear? I stepped
to the side of the trail to let-whatever
it was pass. In,: a ? moment or two
I discovered it was a man on horse
back. I stepped out Into the trail and
spoke to him. He asked me what-1
was doing so far out in the timber
without a hat or coat -1 -told him
I was going Into Yamhill county.' He
asked me If I wasn't running away from
home. I told - him -1. had friends in
Yam hill county I was' going to visit,
so he let me get up behind him andI
rode four or five miles. At the forks
of the road be let roe get down and
directed me to a farmhouse- I aeked
a man there who was . uny offing hia
oxen if X could stay all night.: He
told me he. was just a traveler, like
myself, and referred me to the owner.
Presently the owner of the place came
out and I asked htm If I could stavy
there all night He asked, "Why are you
running away from home? I told him
I waa-on viny "way to visit friends in
YaxnhUl county. .-v He aald, "Why did you
Come " away from home without ' your
hat and coat?; He talked to roe quite
a while, trying to get me to go home,
but I j told him I wotild die before iI
would go home,. so be finally took me
in -and ' let- me . stay : there all night
There were' two girls at his place. , One
of them was 'named Keziah Price. . I
nearly died of bashfraness when he tola
me if I would stay at his place and
work for- him I could have, my choice
NEWS IN BRIEF
i- - SIDELIGHTS -
; ,j .,
Aa a street sport, automobile-' wrecks
have taken: the place of the old -fashioned
dog . fights. Roseburg New
IteYlew.
'"Say it with Jobs" Is a fit slogan for
thoae wIR jriah to express their appro
riatton to the ex-eervioe tnen.-AstorU.
Budget. , 1 - :
'Ex-Preeident Wilson - is ' reeoverlrtg
slowly trom his illness, and If the good
wishes of the American people will help
any ha has them Eugene Register.
; . , , -
. One thing, at least, that disarmament
conference has already accomplished. : It
has arot arenda" Into the American lan
guage as a fancy substitute ftv-. ro-
gTam. --Aioany jUtmocrat ,
The government will not allow Henry
Ford to have anything to do with the
ships the nation built during, the war.
He might ball things up so they would
make some money. Medford '.Mail
Tribune. . s-., --. , -.''
t v.-.fV- ; -.--
Germany ewes the United States over
a, quarter of a billion dollars for the
American force of occupation ; on the
Rhine. When -Germany will pay It is
another matter, entirely: Medford
Clarion. ' , - -
'.'.
Preliminary steps toward the organ
isatiop of a county fair have been taken
and now It means eneraretic work on the
part of the farmers of the county and
the business community to put it over.
the g oai.-' Baker .Democrat.
. Mrs. H, L. Coughenour. sister of Ser
geant B. F. Sherwood of the Portland
police, force, Is leaving for her home at
Burlington. Colo. She has spent the
past two months in Portland visiting her
daughter, Mrs. Harold Kelly, and her
brothers. E. ML and Fred Sherwood, at
Oregon City. Mr. Coughenour is we'll
above the three score and ten mark,
and while this is her first visit to the
Pacific coast she goes back a confirmed
booster for the Columbia river highway
and our other scenic assets.
C. W. Barger, who was born at Sil
verton 7J years ago and who drove stage
More than SO years, is visiting his
cousin, Mrs. J. M. Freeman, in Portland.
Mr. Barger does not take kindly to the
automobile. . He prefers something In
front of him that is alive. He was a
driver with Dave Horn in Eastern Ore
gon when Sam Jackson, later ownee of
the iDast Oregonian and now publisher
of The Oregon Journal, was stage agent
at Pendleton. , -
'" .;'" -
E. LaForest, superintendent of the
stables and equipment of the American
Express company, is irr Portland for a
day or so. He has Just returned from
an inspection trip in Montana. Thirty
five years ago he handled the ribbons
as a stage driver, later going to work
for the Wells-Fargo company. He ex
pects to leave soon for his home In San
Francisco.
C. C Berkeley, manager of the Bald
win Sheep company, known as the Hay
Creek company, one of the largest stock
ranches in Central Oregon, is In Port
land arranging for several entries at
the Pacific International Livestock con
vention. Dr. and Mrs. J. H. Lail are in Portland
visiting their old time friend. Judge W,
H. Holmes. Dr. Lail represents a drug
house of Portland. He spends - two
months each summer in Portland, Or.
From here he will go to Boise, Denver,
Salt Lake and Spokane.
Mrs. Jack McCarty and Mrs. R Mc
Allister of La Grande are visiting
friends m . Portland. -' From here they
will go for a 10 days' visit to friends at
Marshfield and other Coos Bay points. .
'".' ' . .
Mrs. Lee Brown ' and her grandson.
Burke Nelson of Pendleton, are Portland
visitors.
. .. ' -
Mr. and Mrs. Alfred Peterson of Eu
gene are Portland tlsltors.
- Charles Putnam of Brownsville is visit
ing friends in Portland.
.
Mr. and Mrs. J. C. Standish of Halaey
were recent visitors In Portland.
Lockley
of the girls and that he would recom
mend that I take Kesiah. i -
i. .'.'" e '
"The next ', morning when the man
with the ox team started on for Yamhill
I asked him if I could follow back of
his wagon. He laughed. -and said, 'I
don't own the road. Yon can follow me
as far as you want to.' We started
out bright and -early, but before , we.
had gone far ,it began to rain hard.
It was a cold rain, and I was soon wet
to the skin. He stopped his oxen and
lent me a sailor's pea jacket and told
me I had better climb In and ride; In
the wagon. When we got' up on Che
halem mountain his wagon broke down.
He unyoked his oxen and started for
Phil Thompson's place on Wapato lake
I started on afoot for YamhilL Present
ly a man named Dorris, who was riding
on horseback,' overtook me and invited
me to .climb up behind him on his horse.
We.atoppedL Sor dinner and I got dried
oot by thefireplace- After dinner he
took me on his horse again and we
rode to his place. He invited me to
stay all night' which I was glad to do.
The next day I got as far as Perkins'
place in Yamhill wunty. They told me
I could stay and work for my board.
e e
-My mother, of Course,--was very much
worried- about my running away. She
found out where X was and. came out
and persuaded me to go back. My
stepfather-' had" promised her that he
would , never use a - rope's end on me
again. I had been back but a few weeks
when he became very angry at me. . He
was a man of violent -temper.- He was
also a man 'of his word. He did not
get? the rope or . even a whip," but he
picked me up and- threw me ' on tthe
floor u. hard 'a' he could .and con
tinued:' to pick me fup and throw -me
down till X felt as If verybone In ray
body was' broken.' t iwatched . my
chance',; sneaked out of the back door
and again I struck due west over Kings
HeiKhts for YamhiU- county.;- I v went
to work for Dan Johnson and. Joel Per
kins, r They i weTerbrothers-la-law' aid
partnera , Joel Peskins owned the dona
tion lauid claim' on which "Lafayette was
built v He hailed from Lafayette. Ind..
and . so he named .his . donation ' land
Lafayette. He ran the ferry and hotel
and-a livery barn there, I waited on
the table - In the. hotel, herded stock;
ran the ferry 'and, whenever the bar
keeper was drunk, tended bar. I waar
a handy man and roustabout Whiskey
was two-bits a drink. We had gold
scales on the bar and We took ia cen
siderable -gold dust In those days
nearly, everybody had- Beaver 6-dollar
or , 10-dollar gold, pieces or? the old-
fashioned frO-dollar gold sluga A good
Lmany or the miners and - adventurers
who had. drifted up from California had
Spanish; doubloons as well as the S0
dollar slogs. ' Our- silver money very
largely consisted of small Spanish silver
eoinsv or dollars from Chile -or Periu-
There was very little Amencaa tl'xsr
in. . circulation " -
, . The Oregon. Country
Northwest Uappeninc In Bnef Vorna tor tha
Busy Reader. ' .
OREGON '
-, - V. Dl IV LVlWliltf WjL.lt'
cars, left Enterprise last Friday for ta
Eastern markets.' - .-r " -
prlnoned In the county jail at Kugene.
loan- of whom, were women. , , ;
The market road program In Clack
amas county for this year is practically
completed. . with nearly 15 miles im
proved. .
About 0.000 rbushels of wheat, or St
carloads, have been salvaged so far from
the -wreck of the Farmers' elevator at
Condon.-- .. 4-. . ... ;:t-
- The city i Ashiand is advertising for
bids, on $83.uw of bonds of various clas
sifications, the obligations bearing per
cent intereatv j ;
.Fire of undetermined origin at Yamhill
Monday, morning destroyed the eSray ga-'
rage and Knowfts plumbing shop, caus
ing a loss of $4750.
There are three applicants for the Posi
ilon ,0' Postmaster at Woodburn, Mra
Minnie Richards, Henry Hall and Major
Eugene . Moshberger. ,
Between 00ft and 7000 automobiles
driven by tourists registered at the Eu
gene municipal camping grounds during
the season just closed.
Secretary of State Koxer has prepared
a statement showing that the motor ve
htcle fuel tax is bringing into the state
treasury about 150,000 month.
More than SO high school pupils are
, conveyed to Hubbard in a truck this
year from other districts. The attend
ance Is 85 greater than ever before.
Friday, November 11, Armistice day,
Q, chosen as the date for the East
End Fair and Apple show, sponsored by
the Milton-Freewater Commercial club.
Herbert Egbert of The Dalles was
awarded the sweepstakes prise of J 85
9" the best bushel of wheat among the
500 entries at the Northwest Grain and
Hay show at Pendleton.
Practically all the walnuts handled
through the Oregon Growers' associa
tion have been sold at prices ranging
from 1 to 2 cents higher than the open-
lng-OUOtationa for thAfall
- -" uniivi ma flvuU.h
Applications for the cash bonus from
ex-service men up to last Saturday night
aggregated 3392 and applications for
loans totaled 3131. It is believed that
Jess than half the men will apply for
loans
WASHINGTON
During the last week 761 cars of fruit
Were ahinned nut nf tha Volflm. v.ii.v
vvalued at 1862.974.- '
Damage to fruit In the Palouse-sectlon
by the high winds -of last week is esti
mated at from 15 to 40 per cent
Seattle is facing a consolidated tax
levy for 1922 of 63.38 mills, as compared
with 73.55 mills paid this year, a reduc
tion of 10.17 mills.
Charles H Stanfield, aged 61, died
suddenly at Walla Walla, Monday, of
heart trouble". Stanfield had lived in
vValia Walla since he was 4 years old.
Carl W. Morgan has resigned as com
mander of the Davenport post of the
American Legion to accept a position as
principal of the Harrington high school.
The Spokane branch of the federal
land bank has been allotted JJi.700.000 by
the federal farm loan board, the money
to be loaned to f n rm- in firAtmn wkH
lngton, Idaho and Montana. ?
Forty-six new homes, to cost on an
average more than 63000 each, were
either begun in Spokane during Septem
ber or their construction authorised by
the city building inspector. ' .
John Stock, aged 40, an employe of
the Independent slaughter house at
Yakima, was seriously burned about the
face and body when the offal tanks ex
ploded from some, mysterious cause.
1rnu.rii finer lttnm.v TrMi Ttr TMnK
i Of Walla Walla county is completely
exonerated from all charges made
against Mm by the Evening Bulletin, bv
a committee named to Investigate his
office.
While working . In his orchard near
Clarkston, H. Walker was accidentally
Shot Monday, by Fred Ledke of Asotin,
who was hunting Chinese pheasants.
Walker was seriously wounded but will
recover.
After starting to Colvilla with a load
of wood, James Woodward, pioneer
fanner, was picked up on the road un
conscious with bis left arm broken and
all bis left ribs fractured, his team hav
ing run away.
James Nejisoh, of Roslyn Is under- ar
rest at Ellerisburg following the death
of Hector Oberta, aged 12, who was
struck by an automobile driven by Nel
son. The boy was killed while standing
on a sidewalk at Roslxn.
The White Bluffs-Hanford project on
the Columbia river has been selected by
the American Legion executive commit
tee as the first land setUement project
that should be financed by public funds.
The state has about 6300,000 available
for the project
IDAHO
For state and county purposes the tax
levy in Jerome county has been reduced
to $1.71. In 1920 it was 62.55.
Jess B. Cowen has been named by
President Harding as postmaster at
Caldwell. The salary is $2600 a year.
Miss Ora Budge, daughter of Judge
Alfred Budge of Boise and a graduate
of Boise high school, has been awarded
a scholarship In the Chicago university.
Evan Evans of Grangeville. named by
President Harding to be Internal revenue
collector for Idaho, has arrived In Boise
to take up the duties of his office about
October 10. ' , .
Sale has been made to a Salt" Lake
City firm-by State Treasurer Banks of
the fourth issue of Idaho state highway
bonds in the sum of 62.000,000. This was
the fifth attempt, to sell these 5 per-cent
20-year bonds. . .
Governor Davis has appointed George
of manager of the state insurance fund
icvcuur rscaieu oy u. YV . tjnurcn, wno
accepted the appointment as commis
sioner of public investments.
rViW Like Best
In The Journal
G. E. HOLMBERG, 40Tr
! East Thirtieth street The
editorials. They are . fair.
They have the Interest of the
, people at heart ...
MRS. R. MT. COLLIER, 938
East Caruthers street All.
Every cojumn of it.
MISS 'ROSE RAGER. 939
East CarUthers The comic
page, especially "Krazy Kat"
and "Jimmy." i
DILTHY, 408 East
,Thirty-second .tree t The
general news.
TOUCHET MILLING COM
PANY Huntsville , Wash.--
T The market ; page : would he :
; about I perfect if it included :
: , the"; Winnipeg market quota-' K
' tions a little oftener, ;(l ; f.
- J MRS. CHARLES HORTOS,
814 Willis boulevard Tb-'5
editoriala .There is a sublim-:''
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