TODAY'S FEATURES The Mease-Anronae Section 4, peg 'Bee Csltere Heetios' t, page At .Summer Eetort See. I. pages -8. For the Motorlat Section 4, pares Basinet ?ftw Section f, Page Is, IS, 14 THE WEATHER '" Portland and vlflnltyftasday' fair and ntrmcr; gealle westerly wlads. Orejroa aad Wiiblii ton- Sand ay fair and warmer,' except near coast; . gentle westerly wlndt. -: i.-- ;" VOL. XVII. NO. 21. CITY EDITION PORTLAND, OREGON, SUNDAY MORNING, AUGUST 10, ,1919. PRICE FIVE CENTS .: a 1 ' ssis. -21- -v. ,t tz - "trtJ" r . . . v " " r HIGH COS SUED Excessive Shipments to Foreign Countries Cause of Exorbitant Prices, Says Indiana Senator. Interstate Commerce Commission : of Senate to Consider Reme dial Suggestions of President. Washington, Aug1. 9. President - Wilson's program for legislation to control the prices and distribution of food supplies will be taken up by the interstate commerce committee of the senate next Monday. The committee held a meeting: this morriing" and decided to go over the text of the president's message as a basis for legislation which they will recommend to the senate. Most of the members of the commit tee are in accord with the president's recommendation in favor of legislation 'to regulate the storage houses and to license the distributing agencies. Some opposition to the plan of branding all foodstuffs with the price paid the pro ducer was expressed at the committee bearing-.: but no definite stand was taken against' it. OPPOSES FBICE-FIXING Senator Watson, Republican, of In fiinna. expressed himself strongly In fiiv-r of the licensing plan, but is not Inclined to favor -a. general scheme of price fixing.. He believes strongly in , leguDation to limit the exportation of foodstuffs aricl pointed out that during the year which ended June 30, 1919. the exportation from the United States of food materials amounted in value to $3.r.o4.0K.000.. The .senator Is of the opinion that the ex;nrts f?re largely in excess of what ehof.ld be allowed under the existing state f production In the United States. He said he could not foresee how prices m this country will fairWTSng-'Tfcrex-perts in excess of the normal surplus nri permitted. -, v . Senator - Pameren , XemocraCV' of Ohi, explained to the committee that in his opinion there is no doubi o the rights pf. the federal governnent to license ' and control .storage houses Where the contents enter into ' interstate commerce. He pointed out also that the states have the right to license cold ptor:jge plants and warehouses which hold goods for-intrastate traffic. BECISIQir GIVES ACTHOEITf - Senator Pomerene found that author Hy in a decision rendered by the su preme court in. 1876 in the case of Munn versus Illinois, in which the validity of a law passed by that state to license grain elevators was upheld. The court ruled' in a decision written by Chief Justice Waite that the grain elevators were in the nature of a public utility and as such were subject to state regu lation. Ia the decision it was stated: "When the owner of property devotes it to a use in which the public has an interest, he in effect grants to the public ah interest in such use and must, to the extent of that interest, submit to be controlled by the public, for the com mon good,, as long as he maintains the use. He may withdraw his grant by discontinuing the use." The court held that the rights of prop erty cannot be taken away without due process, but laid down the principle that the state has the right to say what the reasonable charge for such services' should be. The decision establishes no new principle in the law, but' only gives a new effect to an old one. It Is also held by the court that where warehouses are Situated and the "business Is carried on exclusively within a state, she may, as a matter Of .domestic concern, pre scribe, regulations for them, notwith standing that they are used as Instru ments by those engaged In Interstate as well as in state commerce. Discussing'this decision Senator Pom erene said : "It is under this general principle that . congress and the several states can reg ulate warehouse and storage plants. CONGRESS MAT KEGTJLATE "-I have no doubt that congress has power to say how these cold storage nouses should be conducted and estab lish reasonable prices for them. Even though .the war is over, yet under the regulations of the interstate commerce commission and under the principle laid down by the supreme court in the Illi nois decision hoarding and prices can be . redoubled." Senator Gronna, chairman of the com mittee on : agriculture, was - In confer ence today with several senators from the wheat growing states on , the sub ject of food control legislation. Ha was authorised to prepare a statement which will set forth the views ' of those sen ators in favor of the repeal of the $2.25 wheat guarantee and of the. Lever food control act. This statement. Senator Gronna said, will be issued probably next Monday. - MILLERS REAP" BE7TEFIT . According, to Senator Gronna, the wheat guarantee measure has- been of no benefit to the farmers, all the ad vantage having gone to the millers. " In respect" to the Lever act. which Presi dent Wilson specifically asked to have continued and extended. Senator Gronna is of the opinion that the removal of all restrictions will tend to lower prices - not only of flour but of other commodl " ties. : . ,, ; President Wilson T In his message to congress made - the statement . that In - many instances there we're on hand Jarger stocks of food and food-products than at this time last year. He cited butter, eggs, fowls and meats. Official reports of the department of agriculture indicate, i however, - that although 4 a larger acreage of staple farm products was . planted : during the current year .1 Concluded- ma. -Jrac- Xwalrev-Ccluma On). era News Index Today's Sunday Journal la SU Section Editorial , Section 1. Page 8. ."! s. Foreign Norte's PI a Uenace SeetAiS 1, Pace I. Brandeia for Zionism Section 1, Pace 6. French Approve Reservations - Section I , Fate 11. Russia Looks to U. S. Section 1, Pae 12. , National Worker Disclaim Force Section 1, Pace 1. CoL House to B Questioned Section 1, Pate 1. Republicans Would Recess Section 1. Pate 2. Domestic . Exports Boost Costs Section 1, Tate 1. Los Angeles Welcotna Fleet Section 1, Pace 2. Norttiwast Elks Off to Klamath Section 1, Paca 7. Round-Up Plans I'rotrea Section 2. Pace 1. Portland Editors in Contention Section 1, Pase 1. Motor far Accidents Increase Section 1. Psaro 1, Lumber Demand ExcwwiTe Section 1, Page 13. Buyeri' Week a uccesf Sec tion 1. I'aRe 10. : BUitretl Real Estate and Building Section 2. I'-W 14. Market., and Finance Section l'ajca ll'-ia. JIarini Section I'aa 13. Spcrts ( Section 2. Paces 2-4. Automotive Section 4, Paces 7-16. On the Finer Side The Weak in Society Section B. Pates 2-4. Women's Clubs Section 4. Page 6. The Realm of Mosic Section 4. Pace 5. Fraternal News Section 4. Pate 5. In Labor Circles Section 4. Pate 8. Drama and Photoplay Section 4. Pates 1-4. At Summer Resorts Section 3. Pages 5 8 Features Tba Meune-Argonnc Section 4, Pace 6. Boa Culture Section 3, Pace 8. Magazine An Orecon Waterfall Section 8. Pate 1. Lore Life Wrecked Section 8. Pata 2. Ban Her Own Romance Section S, Pace 3. Be Kind to Snakes Section 5. Pate 4. FloatlDC Hospitals Section 5, Pace 6. The Catbird's Nest, by Arthur Btrucer Section 6, Pate 6. Health. ' Beauty and the Home Section 5. Pate 7. Xewcst Erenint Gowns, by Lady Duff Gordon (Lucile) Section 5, Page 8. Ootnlo Section fl. Pates 1-4. FOODlifOATiON -IN EUROPE BAD Starvation Is Outlook Unless . United States Extends Credit for Purchase of Foodi London, Aug. 9. (tT. P.) Europe faces starvation the coming winter, unless the ,United States extends credit for the purchase of food, ac cording to. th. report of American food experts, who will present their findings before the peace conference Monday. The American farmer will not be able to save Europe by mere produc tion, the report states. "America's food surplus will rot in the warehouses unless Europe la tided over the present financial crisis." It was pointed out. "Europe is unable to pay, either in cash or commodities.' European labor tendencies also are menacing the food situation, according to the American experts. Great Britain's decreased coal output, for instance, re moves her greatest means of buying food. Hoarding by speculators is the ex planation given for the' high prices In the United States. By eliminating this factor, experts believe, America can continue to export 18,000.000 tons of food to Europe without seriously de pleting her domestic- supply. Sub-Committee in Senate Is Not Yet Agreed on Palmer Washington, Aug- 9. (I. N. &) The senate sub-oonfmittee considering the nomination of A. Mitchell Palmer to be attorney general, failed to reach an agreement after nearly three hours of conference today." ' A motion was made to discontinue the taking of testimony and to take action on the nomination, but it failed to reach a final vote. Senator Dillingham, chairman of the committee, announced that the sub committee would meet again next week. Strike of Thespians May Be Nationwide New York. Aug. 9. Thespianitis" is now rampant and the probability that the actors' strike will become nation wide, and announcement that a series of benefits for the war chest for ex penses to defray the actors' expenses, were, two outstanding features tonight of the battle royal between members of the Actors' Equity association and the Producing Managers association. Ten theatres are closed in New York despite the managers' optimistic statements that reopenings would com! soon. Colonel Roosevelt Formally in Politics f Oyster Bay, N. Y., Aug. 9. (XT. P.) Lieutenant Colonel , Theodore Roosevelt made. his bow as a political speaker here tonight at a clam bake. . It was his first real speech as a Republican can didate for assemblyman . from - Nassau county. Colonel Roosevelt, In r his speech, declared the president is "the whole show in ' Washington, and that "congress is a rubber tamp." HIGHWAY i Charms of Oregon's World j Famous Columbia River High- way to Be Enhanced by Lunch. Bear Steaks and Trout Will Be i Fed to' Newspaper Men on Their Final Day in Portland. By Earl C. Brownlee Choicest Oregon trout simmering in the pan bear steaks broiled to please the palate of a plutocrat the scenic grandeur of America's premier highway. These savory and scenic wonder are held out aa Oregon's farewell to 208 members of the National Edi torial association, who will complete j today their two-day annual conven ! tlon when they depart for Crater Lake to carry on the program that has kept them veritably, "on the Jump" since July 26, and which will continue through Canada until Au gust 26. The simmering trout, the broiled bear steaks arfd the highway are the com bined charms the editors will enjoy this morning when they arrive at' Eagle Creek for a breakfast Of real Oregon bounties amid the beauties Of that picturesque groove from which they will carry lasting impressions from the 34th annual conclave. EDITORS ARE DELIGHTED On every hand the delight of the vis iting editors echoes as a .result of .their entertainment at the hands of the Ore gon association and of Portland. 'Nowhere on . our tour." declared 'Pres ident -Guy IT. Hardy, "have we been more completely nor more pleasantly entertained ' than ; here In Portland and when' Portland wants a national conven tio jStli its. own, I really believe our only requirement wilt be the irivttatlOtt."'" "Your, hospitality has been unstinted, the scope -of your ' program . of ; enter tainment has 'been' wide and elaborate. We-.fesrre you pronouncing a benediction of pleasure for your reception. . Dim memories of newspaper demands forsaken for the "Victory", tour of the association little ; hampered the full pleasure of the editors, both men and women, who came from practically every state in the Union to attend the Portland convention. BFSIJiESS LAID ASIDE Type, news print, presses! and the thousand and one conveniences and in conveniences that .haunt the average editor's dreams were ery successfully put aside during the time the national conversion held forth m Portland, and especially were office and shop . cares cast to the winds Saturday night as the editors, both of the visiting and the Oregon parties, retired with 'promises of the breakfast to be theirs this morning, ing. . Accompanying the party of visiting editors will be a large number of the representatives of the Oregon press, the men and women who have been In con vention with the Oregon State Editorial association and later in joint session with the national body. The big break fast is the epicurean treat of the Oregon fish and game commission, the Forest Service, the Progressive Business Men's club and the Portland Rotary club, the latter providing the automobiles that will farry the guests . on their early morning tour over the Columbia river highway. , ' BANQUET IS ELABORATE Thoroughly pleasant was the banquet served Saturday evening in honor of the national association in the gr&ov. room of the Portland Chamber of Com merce. Dancing . between the. courses of the dinner provided pleasant interruptions to the elaborate menu r-erved. Addi tions 1 entertainment was provided by a number of clever son9 and dances rendered through the courtesy of "Vic Leroy and Joe Dressier of the Panages circuit. Following the dinner addresses were made by Guy U. Hardy, president of the association ; Fred E. Sterling, state treasurer of Illinois : Mayor Baker Of Portland ; Fred L Boo.l. editor of the Portland News- Frank P. Goss. city editor of the Post-Intelligencer. Seattle, and Herbert Cuthbert, secretary of the Pacific Northwest Tourist association. Kdgar B. Piper, editor of the Oregon la a. presided as toaatmaster. OREGOST CITY VISITED " An outstanding feature of the Saturday sessions of the convention was the trip to Oregon City, enjoyed by nearly the entire party, where a memorial monu ment commemorating the establishment at Oregon City of the -first newspaper west of the Rocky mountains was un veiled with an interesting ceremony. Seventy-three years ago, before the Pacific coast was bound to the east with telegraph and steel rails, and.' when the only pony telegraph service for dissemi nation of world news was 'the pony ex press across the plains, pioneer residents established the Oregon. Spectator, and saw its first issue on February 6, 184& E. E. Brodie, former president of the Oregon . Editorial association. presided at the dedication. Mrs. Eva Emery Dye, author of "McLoughlln -and Old Oregon," welcomed the editors; W. P. Hawley, president of the Hawley Pulp & i Paper company and honor of the monument, spoke; George H.'Himes, as sistant secretary of the Oregon Histori cal . society, spoke on "The First Pa cific Coast; Newspaper.'' '. i ; GRAJTDSOK IS , PSESE1TT .. Mrs. Jennie Barlow .Harding, past re gent of Susannah Lee Barlow chapter. Daughter of the - American Revolution, spoke on "Historical Treasures of Oregon-City; and Edward Albright, vice tCoBcludsd on Thxss Coiusus One). CRATER "LAKEOREGON'S "SEA! OR SILENCE'', WITH no inlet and no visible outlet, Crkter Lake occupies the crater o the once proud Mount Mazama, which in ages gone, in a burst of volcanic fury, fell into itself. ; Here formed the deepest and bluest lake in the world, the surface of which is a thousand feet below the surrounding cliffs. First discovered in 1853, this "Sea of Silence,' as Joaquin Miller describes it, .again will be discovered this week by members of. the National Editorial association: FA U&Ski!" 5 ?- V mm . V - k 1 yasas SENATORS CALL ! FOR COL. HOUSE Adviser to President Will Be - Asked to Give Details of Peace Treaty Agreement. Washington. Aug. 9. (U. . P.) Colonel B. M. House will be ; sum moned "from Paris to give .the' senate foreign-: relations committee informa tion' on- the peace treaty, committee members said today. The decision to call House has been informally reached by majority members of the committee. ' : Formal action is expected 'next week. Need fbr House's testimony became apparent, committee- members declared, when Secretary Lansing last week testi fied that House and President Wilson attended to all the important matters, and that the other members'of he Amer ican, peace mission knew little of the procedure. Lansing' said Wilson and House did ait the work on the League of Nations undertaken by the American delegation. There has been no . suggestion, sen ators said, that the committee jwtll avail itself of President Wilson's invitation to confer. with him at the White House on the .treaty. v . , President Wilson's answer to the va rious requests for information made by the committee at various intervals dur ing the past month. Is expected early next week. u Democratic members said. The president recently wrote Senator Lodge that he waa going through the papers he brought back from Paris to see - which of them he could , send the committee. , .Lansing on Monday- will resume his testimony before the committee. He is to read a prepared v statement on the Lansing-Ishii agreement-of November, 1917, . regarding Japanese Influence on China. Committee members asked for a detailed explanation, for the. reasons for this agreement. ';' Brooklyn Car Strike 'Has Been.Called Off New York, v Aug.'. The strike of the Brooklyn - Rapid Transit - employes was called - off s tonight. - Some recognition of the union was reported to haye been given ' by. Lindley M. Garrison, receiver for "the road, although the strikers'- de mands were not fully-met. I TfaJjTS if ---ir- V -f It i r " ' :W s i ' ,'' ' '" '', jisi..'sV v-y.- -rw. .... " 'ir-'.v- .-.v.-. .-. 'i'1 i-' x - - ' ' ' . y - . " " 1 A - - " it ... Strike and High Cost May Detain President Wilson Washington, Aug. v9.(U. P.) Events of the coming week will determine' whether . President Wilson will begin his speaking, trip as he planned, or will be compelled again to postpone-It ,: He -.will not cleave -the capital,, it was learned tonight, while the country- faces a crisis from high living costs and rail road workers' demands. But if he feels these two problems are well on their way to- solution -and do- not. require that he remain in the White House, he will start toward thejcoast. The schedule that has been prepared calls for a ' trip4 .of . 10 or, 12 days from here to San Francisco, where It was announced the president would, review the fleet September 2., This would re quire that he leave Washington not later than August 20. . '' The president has no intention of abandoning the trip, it was learned at the White House. On it he will discuss domestic as well as international affairs. Cruiser to. Watch For Icebergs in Course of Prince St. Johns, N. F., Aug. 8. (U- P.) The cruiser Dauntless was , today 'scouting the. waters off the Newfoundland banks to locate icebergs and warn the cruiser Renown, which t is - bringing the Prince of Wales to Canada, out of the course in which the bergs are drifting. During the last few days large bergs and floes have been ' reported off the banks, -The prince will transfer to the cruiser Dragon, ' off Conception bay,-. and will enter the harbor on that ship about noon Tuesday. . Preparations for the prince's welcome have been carried out and the city is already - decorated. , After the prince reaches the mainland he will tour- the dominion in Sir Thomas O'Shaughnessy's private car. Chautauqua Crowds Will Hear Senator Chamb e r 1 a i n Talk Washington, Aug. $. (WASHINGTON BUREAU OF THE : JOURNAL)- Sena tor Chamberlain' left to night for Shelby ville, Ind., where he addresses a Chau tauqua audience Sunday night, followed Tuesday and Wednesday . by addresses at Rusaton. Ind and, Shelbyville, Ills. This Is . the' senator's first appearance on Chautauqua platforms.- , , " :yLyAr.'t vyy.yy- n?y. y ,y L -?r; :i..Wv.o.ia .-Jr .. MM ' illslf MMfll "V 4 4 - i 1 i 3 . r. u ?1 - 6 ; if 8 i. .Ci.T TELEPHONE RATES Postmaster General Wire's'1 M ayor Baker Direct; Injunction May: Be Sought City. Postmaster .. General . Burleson au thorized the recent adyancej In Port land telephone rates a wire "frony the cabinet off icer to' ilayorrRaaer an- npunced last",nigo.t." Burleson "found the rates allowedby the public serv ice commission' on. May -.1 to ,bo "grossly Inadequate," he . states,' and therefore Instructed, the ,Pac!f ic Tele-: phone & Telegraph, company on July 22 to disregard the commission rates and place in effect the higher rates approved by him on November 15-': The telegram from Burleson follows: "Replying . to your, telegram to Sen ator Chamberlain today you are advised that schedule 'of .rates; put -into! effect by Pacific Telephone and ' Telegraph company July 29 was -filed wlth .publte service - commission - November '4,' by authority of my general order 1931, said "rates being- specifically approved by me and authorized to be .placed into effect on November, 15. As result of protest against these . rates on Novem- (Couctacfoi on Paje TweWe. Column Four) Amos Pinchot and . Miss Pickering Wed Saugaluk. Conn., Aug. '9. Amos Pinchot, formerly deputy assistant dis trict attorney of New York and promi nent sociologist, '.was married here to day to MIsa Ruth : Pickering. . Miss Pickering, who is 27 years old. Is , a member of the. staff of the New York Nation and a frequent .contributor to other magazines. ..This is Mr. Pinchot s second marriage.- ? He waa formerly married to Miss .Gertrude M intern, from whom he was divorced last year. , 50: Are .Killed in ! Saxony -Food . Riots i Berlin, '-Aug.'- 9 Fifty persons are - re ported to have been killed In food riots at Chemnitz, Baxony. - The rioting, be gan yesterday and - order - was ' not re stored until - reinforcements ot troops had been sent to the cltyr . '-:y ' RHRI FSflN IIPHfll fKi Oaks Life Guard Killed VIien His Motorcycle Skids Police Say They Had Been Pur suing Paul Carcich for Speedy ing Just Before Accident. ' Paul Carcich, "ft fe guard at The Oaks swimming tank and a machin ist employed by the Columbia River Shipbuilding Corporation, was ' in stantly killed Saturday afternoon, when his motbrcycle skidded from under him in avoiding collision with a wood truck at East Eleventh street and Spokane avenue. Carcich had been living at 26 North Tenth street. Carcich was on his way to the uaka when the accident occurred. Louis Krickson, driver of the truck, said he had signaled for a turn into Eleventh Btreet from Spokane ana that Carcich apparently thought he could dodge past. Krickson said he turned as sharply as he could to avoid the collision and suc ceeded, but Carcich was thrown from his cycle directly under the truck's back wheel. . . - i Motorcycle Officer Mamaker, who ar rived at the scene with Officer Schad. said he had pursued Carcich a few minutes "before because, of excessive speed in Milwaukle avenue. H. Tu. Grif fith of 343 Venable hotel, however, uald It was unlikely Carcich . outspeeded Hamaker, as the Utter said, because he had been riding his machine only a few weeks and was not sufficiently pro ficient to undertake rapid spceda Griffith identified Carcich's body at the morgue. As far as Griffith knows, he said, Carcich has no relatives In this country. -. He was 23 years old, a mem ber of the Rose City Motorcycle club and of , the lodge of Moose. HOUSEKEEPERS GET Sales of Government; Bacon on ... Coast Amount to 235,000 .l Pounds in Week. -r San- FratncSsco, Augr. 9. -(U. P.) Housekeepers of five Pacific coast cities, Jiave. been L saved more than lis, 000 in-the price of bacon alone in the' first, week's sales of surplus army food When the none supply office is able to fill all the orders of west ern municipalities, the saving each week will be stitl greater. ' A supply of 235.000 pounds of. bacon s t the Fort Mason warehouse here lasted less than a week in fining de-fiands from San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seat tle, Tacoma and Santa Monica. - This was sold at cost by these municipalities, the. price averaging 35 cents a pound, against a prevalent retail price of CO cents a pound. , 'But the demand has been met by no means." said attaches of the surplus property officer's headquarters. "Ta- ' partly filled, .while an order from Butte i for nine-carloads - and similar orders from other western cities have not been filled yet, owing to the exhaustlnr of. the supplies on the coast. We have telegraphed east for more bacon and expect the first of a number of ship ments by Friday." , During the first week of food sales through municipalities, more than 10.000 cases of tomatoes were sold rrom I'acinc coast army depots. These were retailed at 14 cents per 2-pound can. The tomatoes are solid . pack, ot splendid quality. Pleased with the success of the first week's sales, municipalities are prepar ing to swat living. costs still further by purchasing prune and all other , food stuffs offered them for distribution to consumers at cost. - Large department stores, handling the sales without profit, and municipal markets are the agencies through which the goods are being dis tributed to . the housekeepers, . with a limitation placed'on the individual sales to prevent hoarding or purchasing for profiteering retailers. . , Camp Mills to Be Discontinued, as a Debarkation Camp . Washington. Aug. 9. (U. P.) Camp Mills, New York, will be discontinued as a debarkation camp tomorrow, the war department announced today. Spe cial casual eompanles arriving at Ho boken will be sent to Camp Upton, or ganizations of casuals of the air serv ice will be sent to Camp Dix and casual air service officers to Garden City. The commanding officer of the avia tion concentration camp -at Garden City has been directed to discharge all emer gency troops as . soon as possible. The personnel of the camp . will be trans ferred to Camp Upton.' Way to Get 'Kick' in Near Beer Is Found . HarrlstJurg. Pa, Aug. (U.' P.) John Bush discovered a way to get a kick out of "near beer. , Helping un load a cargo of the stuff. Bush got In the way and a keg knocked htm 1 Into a cellar, fracturing his leg. , Dr. Haeckel, Famous Biologist, Is Dead Berlin, Aug."'. Dr. Ernest Haeckel, famous biologist ; and philosopher, died today at Jena, where he held a chair In the university. Dr. Haeckel was In bis-eighty-fifth yeaj , $35,000 IN SAVING HE II iiOCfl Billot G. E. Plumb, Before House in . terstate Commerce Committee, Says Revolution Not Desired. Expects Nationalization Will Ex tend; Eventually, to Ail Public Utilities and large Industries. Washington, . Aug, ' .-President Wilson's strong plea against strikes and threats of violence in his address to congress yesterday found an Im mediate reflection in the hearing be fore the house Interstate commerce committee of organized labor's plan for nationalization of the railroads. Glenn E. Plumb, author of the Plumb plan, absolutely repudiates published reports that the' advocates of this proposal had threatened or contem plated employment, of the power ot the strike to force acceptance ot their ideas. He was equally positive Id his declaration that no thought of violence was entertained. In connec tion with the Plumb plan. In support of - this disclaimer Mr. Plumb submitted a ' prepared statement algnmf by the heads of the 14 organisa tions of railroad workers and the rail way ' department of the American Fed eration of Labor. This statement fol lows : i : " . "To ' prevent " any misunderstanding as to the policy of the organised rail toad employes we unite in a definite as sertion that we have no desire and have had ' none to Impress upon the public by violence or threat our proposal that live railroads be nationalized under 'tri partite Control.' WAGE STRIKE MAY COME The- labor 4 spokesman made the defi. nlta reservation, however, that genera; strikes of railroad operatives may de velop if the pending demands for wage increase are not granted. , . Mr. Plumb defended his plan from the renewed attacks of members of the com. mlttee.He met the rapid firs of quel' tions with ready and direct replies. In variably his explanation of a provision brought into cuesMon was sufficient te disillusionise the committeemen's mind" of any fears of impending: dangers ir the operation of the Plumb plan. He was able, too, to show in nearly every instance, how the proposed system ol handling the railroads would work tc the great advantage of the public a: compared with the old system of private ownership. APPLICABLE TO ALL Under direct questioning the witness made no effort to conceal his belief that the same principle proposed for the rail roads would be applicable to other indus tries and public utilities, including " gar and water companies, trolley linea and toll roads, provided the workers and the house concur in the desire to sppb the principle, - He declared that the committee would "see it come" for the steel industry, Mr.' Plumb denied, however, that thl general application of the principle ol nationalization would lead to Social ism. ' In reply to further questioning h stated the " plan contemplates that the trt-partlte organization would do ' lt. own manufacturing and that this polic i would Involve the taking over of the lucrative manufacturing plants and othei equipment. . . VIOLENCE HOT EXPECTED ! Mr. Plumb's disclaimer that- violence was contemplated in connection wrtr the campaign for nationalisation of th railroads, was given in response tr questlons by Representative Watson, He publican of Pennsylvania. "Much has been said here about revo lution, perhape revolution to arms. 1 do no know," Mr. Watson said. "TH you think that this bill can possibly enc all chance of revolution V "Many of ther men using that term," Mr. Plumb , replied, "hardly realize; what is comprehended by the congress man In that term. ;What I think most of the workers mean by revolution lr that they are just going to object for all they are worth." " ' ."I do not think the worklngmen wll ever rise In revolution, said Mr. Wat son. "They have - got" too much a stake. ABE O0I50 TO OBJECT . . VI don't, either," Mr. Plumb agreed "They simply mean that they are: golm to object to reconstruction plans tha do not safeguard their, interests as the: see , them, and - they are going to C something about it." : "Will this bill stem the discontent?' Mr. Watson asked. ' "It will open an era where dlsconteh will begin to vanish," the labor Cham pion declared. "There is less dlsconten now than there was 10 years ago, bu the present unrest is growing. I bellev. this plan is one of the steps brough about by the American people -out o discontent with the present condition.' Representative DeWalt of Penrisyl van I a (Democrat) pursued a similar In quiry later in the hearlpg and wai given even stronger - aHaurances that n plan for the overturning of the govern ment was contemplated. 8UBE OF HIS POSITION Mr. DeWalt inquired If Mr. Plumb ws certain he spoke the views of the rail road men. He replied : ' "t am sure that I represent tHe vlewi of the employes. If I was not sure o this . I would not be here. There ha beer a great , deal of misinterpretation in the newspapers ' that we intende to force the adoption of this plai through the power of strike. No on. (Concluded on face Two, Column One)