THE OREGON &AILY JOURNAL PORTLAND,, TUESDAY, MAY 20, '1819. Peace Terms Intended to Turn Germans Into Race of Helots; Says Johann Giesbeiris PARRO 'GERMANY WONT SIGN.' DECLARES PEACE DELEGATE Will Not Resist Allies Who Can ..... X Invade Germany and Do as They Please With the People. PREDICTS RUSSIAN ALLIANCE Allies Driving Germany into Arms of Bolshevik?, He Says; Pas sive Attitude Is Favored. By Ben Hecht naeial Cabla to Tha Journal end The CUeaso Dailj Nawa, CopyriM. JSIt. a Chicaso Daflj N.wm Co. Berlin, Geotany, ' May 15. (De layed) Johann Giesberts, one of the six German peace delegates who .returned from Versailles to Berlin, aid today: "We will not sign the peace terms as they stand. They are impossible. We have no Inten tion of signing such A peace for Germany as the entente offers now. If the entente refuses to change the terms we will end the negotiations and return to Berlin." "And then?" I asked. - The future Is Immaterial," answered Oteeberts. "If the entente desires It can march into Germany, ir the Frencn desire they can Ttill 10,000.000 of us. If England wishes It can starve what remains of us. out of existence. Such eventualities are more to be desired than the fate of Germany undf r the peace, offered by the allies." WOULD ENSLAVE GEBMAWS "What do you most object to in the terras?" "The terms themselves," said Gies berts, :,''the whole peace treaty has been made with such a refinement of diabolic malignity that fit would reduce the Ger mans to slaves of the world and helots for all time if ft was signed. The treaty proposes to make Germany unable to feed more than half Its population by depriving it of its resources. With its resources It ran Its factories. With the money made from the factories Ger many bought food for some 80,000,000 people from the outside world. The terms taking away our resources and demanding on top of that Indemnities hlch we could only pay if we utilized every inch of our resources are a venem. ous absurdity. Germany was prepared to pay but the rapaciousness of the entente and the merciless determination of the French to exterminate Germany's future have ruined anv noaalhilltv at real peace and real payment." WILL JTOT TIGHT - "Will Germany offer the entente armies armed resistance if they march In?" "No." said Herr Giesberts. "militar ism Is dead. We will not fight. The entente wlli find that It cannot repeat what It calls the "Crime of Belgium" and be hailed as Knights of Democracy at the same time." ' n I asked several questions, endeavoring to find out what the German plans were. 'Herr Giesberts parried most of these questions but finally said : Alio wiiwuifn iwjuoo Aiormaiiy w forward to an alliance with the only nation not in a conspiracy to extermi ' nate it Russia. An alliance with Rus sia Is one of the immediate possibilities If the entente does not humanise, or at least make practical Its peace terms. Speaking of humanity, tell me how does America reconcile its humanitarian and pfoww' DER TAG AS IT WORKED OUT , ; ' T 1 S PEST RAISER TO WOOL OE NEW ZEALAND Kea Kills Sheep in Largs Num ber and Is Wicked Factor in Lessening State's Wool Supply BIRD NOT EASILY SCARED It Has Strong Claws That Sink Into Animal's Fleh Like It Were Butter, Declares Expert. From tha Chicago Pally Kewi. democratic ideals with this obvious ef fort to enslave 70,000,000 people in such a manner as a people were never en slaved before since Home conquered Carthage V I replied that I did not know. Gies berts then spoke of his visit In Ver sailles. "On the whole." he said, "the French were more curious than bitter toward us. One woman in the street threw a nut at me and cried, 'Here, you Boche, I bet you are hungry. The of ficials without exception were cool, re served, and correct." I asked Herr Giesberts if he knew that officers were taking a poll of the sol diers In the new government troops, in quiring how many of them were- ready to return to the west 'front. He replied that he had heard nothing of It and that any move by the military clique for the resumption of the war was bound to fail. Herr Giesberts is one of the lead ers of the strong center party. He re turns to Versailles in a day. PEOPLE ABE PABAVnrO On the way from his office I collided with a second huge anti-peace terms demonstration on Koenig Platz. I watched 6000 school children carrying flags and singing ; the "Watch on the Rhine" and "Deutschland Uber Alles" march by. Following them came about 60,000 men and women singing and cheering. At intervals the procession bore placards protesting against- the enslaving peace", and calling upon the government not to sign it. AUGUST GAUVAIS FEARS TOO MUCH SECRECY EXISTS Not Scrap of Paper Which' Reg isters Expression of Opinions of Any Delegate to Conference. British Annihilate , v4 Bolshevik Warship " London, May 20. An Exchange Tele graph dispatch from Helslngfors Monday reported that three British cruisers en gaged five Bolshevik warships off the harbor of Puumala in the Gulf of Fin land, sinking one,- most of the crew being lost. The British warships are reported to have encountered the Rus sians after the latter had bombarded the ports of Puumala, Krahna and Jagorka. Polish-Ukrainian Armistice Idea Fails artsMay 20. Attempts to conclude an armistice between the Poles and Ukrainians have proved unsuccessful, and Premier Paderewskt of Poland will return to Paris this week. By Fast Scott Mowrer Special Cabla to Tha Jtairaal and Tha Chicago Dally Nawa. (Copyright, 1919. by Chicaerf Daily Newa Co.) Paris. May 20. That the present con ference Is not only the most secret but probably the most august peace as sembly ever held is the affirmation of Augusts Gauvais in the Journal des Dexbats. This veteran Journalist and student of diplomatic procedure writes: "It is an unheard of thing which posterity will hardly be able to believe that the peace conference has kept no record of Its meetings except in the public sessions where nothing has been discussed. Since January 18, the date of the solemn opening, not one of its members . has been able to have hi opinions registered which it was his mission to express. At the congress of Vienna, the congress of Berlin and the conferences at The Hague as well as all other known conferences protocols have been drawn, sometimes even voluminous, in which could be found the substance of the opinions, suggestions, propositions and counter propositions of the various states. It waa not a stenographic record as in a parliament but everything es sential was written down, each member of the assembly having the right more over to correct or modify the text of his declarations. This traditional pro ceedure was consecrated by long ex perience. It enabled each government to explain its viewpoint, make its ob jections, support or oppose - various differ. Mow much. of the whole-grain are in your food? elements was ooomaTPn tc build an9 maintain heedth to rro: digestion A most appetizing -food There's JSessdn for GriSLpeNo.,ts propositions and oblige its opponents to Justify their pretentions by serious arguments. The protocols of the Vienna and Berlin congresses are extremely valuable collections. "It is Impossible to understand why these precedents -have not been followed. The present crisis and also the prodigi ous loss of time would have been avoided. The ten, then the five and then the four have preferred not only to discuss in secret but to leave no trace of their deliberations. They have not had any secretaries to record them. They have talked Interminably. They have broached and agitated all questions without putting anything on paper. They resume on one day what they had set tled the day before. They protest against language attributed to them on the out side. As nothing is written they can deny everything and begin everything over again. "After four months of negotiations one can count on the fingers of one hand the written declarations which have emanated from them. They have been afraid to let their opinions and arguments be known. One would say that they were conspiring. We fore saw the results of this method when the four Installed themselves on Sinai. They thought they would be able to extricate themselves from difficulties by surrounding themselves with clouds. On the contrary this was Just the time to emerge Into daylight. Having noted the conflicting views between themselves they should have confined themselves to formulating and Justifying their opinions In writing. The mass of un tenable arguments would thus have been swept aside. Even though no agree ments were reached material for arbitra tion would have been prepared. "The four months which have .gone by have served only to. confuse ques tions instead of clarifying them. The representatives of the allied and the associated powers had from November 11 to January It to study the confer ence program and prepare their con versations. On January IS each delega tion should have placed Its memorandum and supplementary documents on the conference table. The questions could then have been examined one after an other, a careful record of each meeting being kept. The delegates would have had intervals between the sessions for the indispensable confidential conversa tions. But once in meeting they should have assumed responsibility for their words and formulated declarations destined to be recorded In the protocol. Oppositions would thuewhave been re vealed, It Is true, but they were Inevit able. They have not been attenuated by dlsslmilating them! . f On the con trary public outbreaks have been pro voked. - Tn the present state of things neither parliaments nor 'peoples have authentic documents at their disposition. They have to content themselves with the verbal declarations of their government ministers. There Is not even material for a yellow book. This creates an at mosphere charged with electricity whence a storm may burst at any moment." TJkranians Protest , Against Invasion of Their Land by Poles By Bassets Dlglfy: Special Cabla to The Jonmal. and Tha Chieace r.fly Nwa ;. (CopyrVM, 1919. by Chicago Daily News Co.) Stockholm, : Sweden. May : 2a I learn that the chief .of the Ukranian diplo matic mission, here has delivered to Herr Hellner, the - Swedish foreign minister, the following protest against the Polish Invasion of the non-Bolshevist region of the Ukraine : - . " "In my note of May j- 7 1 had the honor of drawing your esteemed govern ment's attention to the menace, of the Polish attack on the Ukraine during the latter a campaign against Bolshe vism because this attack Is a voluntary act on Poland's part against which the entente powers have not protested sim ply because they are In ignorance of it But now I have received information from the Ukrainian minister in Berlin that at an audience with -the Inter-allied mission there, headed oy General Uu pont, the latter declared that the en tente powers had not forbidden General Heller of the Polish army to throw his troops against the Ukraine Instead of against the Bolshevik!. As this con flicts with President Wilson's telegram about the cessation of hostilities be tween the Poles' and Ukrainians I con sider It my duty again to approach: your excellency with the request that the at tention of the entente be called to the situation -and that the! Poles be asked not to march against i.Ukralnia. J Our country is not In a position to fight on two -fronts "against tha Bolshevik! and the Poles simultaneously, especially as the latter receive the entente support. The advance of the Bolsheviki Into the Ukraine, which is the only land where Bolshevism does not : have' some 'roots among the people, threatens Europe in general and Poland in particular. ' , "On this account 1 have the honor to ask your excellency to bring to the knowledge of your esteemed government the argent request , of the Ukrainian people's republic that the Poles may be forbidden to march against the Ukrain ians, this applyif.g especially to General Halter's divisions. I have the honor to bring to your knowledge that we shall not consider ourselves responsible for the deplorable consequences to the world which may ensue unless the attacks on us cease." ' By Alice X. Archer Fpacial Ditpatcb to Tha Joanul sad Tha Chirsto Dally K m London, May 20.- "Tha event of the week," . according to an article in the current number of The Times Trade Supplement, is the resumption of the London wool sales. But the cheering announcement.' with Its Implied promise of a more - abundant supply of warm clothing. Is somewhat neutralised by the statement that the 80,000 bales offered for sale were quite Inadequate to sat isfy the present demand. This 'position has been aggravated by the recent stop page In the east of ships on voyage car rying wool to Great Britain from Aus tralasia. The desire of Great Britain for more wool Is reflected across the channel. In the Times of April I one reads that M. Exbrayat, director of raw materials fn the ministry of Industrial reconstruction. accompanied. by ' industrial and trade wool experts, left Paris for London to day to diseuss the question of the amount of raw wool to be delivered to France during the current year. As England holds the dominion and Aus tralian stocks, the rapid distribution of this quota. Is eagerly desired by the in dustrialists of the north (France) to set works going again." FABMEBS FIGHT PEST Another and more sinister factor in connection with the wool shortage is to be found in the country of which wool Is the suitable product, namely. New Zea land. From the Times again one learns that a recent conference of sheep farmer ers In the district of Canterbury (New Zealand) was held to demand that vig orous measures be taken for the destruc tion of the carnivorous, mountain4 par rota whoee "ravages are becoming In creasingly serious." - , The mystery of the sheep killing par rots Is 'further elucidated by Godfrey Turner, who writes from the New Zea land convalescent camp at Hornchurcrw Essex. He says that the kea. Is the Dim under indictment for sheep killing. "In else." writes - Mr. Turner, 1t is smaller than an English rook, '.with-the brilliant semi-metalHc : sheen of some other colonial birda Beneath the wings are brave flame colored patches The body Is compact and very muscular, the thighs are strong and sturdy, all the power of the body seemingly centered In the neck, curved cutting beak and strong tearing talons. The claws will dig into flesh as though it were as soft as but ter in summer time, and one sweep of the beak of a bird I thought dead has cut clear across a pair of heavy cord breeches. IS TERRIBLE KILLER "The kea Is not a sporting bird In any sense. Treated as vermin, it is shot as Is easiest. It is not always easily frightened , away. I - have beard often, and I believe, that a kea when on the ground will let you get right up to U and will play with a button on a string or with the. corner of a handkerchief, They have no sense and will stand when their mates are killed. "We are used to the Imported pest. sn4 to the fading out of our native birds. The kea is home reared and more ter rible than any emigrant. It is spreading swiftly.. Thirty-five years ago the par rot was only in the high country . ot Otago. and the mountain shepherds of the Hswkden had a legend of a bird which killed a sheep. Twenty-five years ago it was seen on St. James and St. Helens, but was unknown on the plains or on hill station 40 miles away. Today It has been seen in Blenheim ; It ventures to the plains and flies shrieking over Henmer springs. At one point by the publte road, botween Culverden and Hen mer. It slew 70 sheep in a night. Where I wss working In 1917. It killed seven big Corriedalo ramathe stronest sheep In the ' world between the dusk and dawn , within 100 yards of the homestead windows. We believe that It kills more sheep-than the snow that It has caused the losses we have put down to the weather in past years. LITTLE KNOWN OF ORIGIN "Today we do not know male kea from female. We do not know whether they are birds of the night or day. They kill at any time. I have heard them I n heavy bush and seen, them among rock peaks and above Ice. No neats has eve been found. 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