5 f 7 e-. - THfi OREGON DAILY JOURNAL, PORTLAND, SATURDAY MORNING, NOVEMBER 27, 1915. DEPARTMENT DIFFER ABOUT SHORT HOURS FOR EMPLOYES Some Sav Federal Business Should Be Run Carefully as- Private Business, opinions of heads of go eminent of fi'"s and departments in Portland ;iry a to whether federal employes should work eifrht hours a day. which Im thn customary work day for em ployes In most prlvnte enterpriser!. Most of the Kovernment employes work on n seven-hour flay schedule. The coiwlltion of employment. In var ious departments came to lislit whrn a statement was publlnhed that most of those In the. government offices here worked on a schedule of seven hours a day. while the employes l pr:;te huwlness nearly all work at least ei!i; hours a day. Ah a rnalt'-r of economy In government expenditures, tt wa- pointed out thHt a large saving could he made It' dfovernineii t employes worked fljjht hours a da . Soma Work Longer. While seven to seven am! a half hours constitute ;t clay's work in prac tically all the government offices, Mil ton A. Miller, collector of internal revenue, . W. Kl 1 lot t . internal revenue aKcnl; Captain Kdward Kdwards. sle'imhoat inspeetor; Clarence Heames, I'nited Stales attorney, and John Mon Ihk, I'nited States inarshal declare that the work of their department re quires their employes to put in much more than seven hourh h day. On the other hand K. t. Worth, I'nl ted h'tates surveyor cmicral tor Ore gon, I.HVH tliat the government gets only about U to 70 per cent of the efficiency that a private employer would et out of an eipial number of ririnlov s He savs that conditions are different in government offices than In private business, but he sees a choline for the better comiriK In government service. Rush Days Avry 13 Hours. Milton A. Miller, collector of inter im I revenue, says there are rush per iods during the year when his men are jeiulr'l to work 1 a to l." hours a day. He insists that because of these rush periods he. has no employes who do not average more than eight hours a day. The rush period comes from the sending out of notices and collection iJ the income tax. the emergency tax and the tax on narcotics. Thin period last year began in October and did not end until in July according to the col lector. If the emergency tax law should not be re-enacted congress and no sim ilar law is enacted In its place, the work of the office will lie materially lessened, says Mr. Miller, and he can make a readjustment of his force of e nv.pl oy ck accordingly. He said the employes of the Inter nal revenue agent department should not be charged to his office, but should be listed separately. He said he has L'O employe in his department, and three of these are 'pipeline" men whose jobs will cease when the prohi bition law becomes effective the first of the year, and another Is storekeeper and guager, whose job also will end wILli the year, reducing the force to His force has been about doubled ho went into ottice. BUr Increase In Work. Ho estimates the work of his office has Increased lorn) per cent since he went into office, this Increase being due to the new revenue laws enacted by con g iess. j. W. ICliott is internal reve;.ue agent and he has 17 men in his depart ment Hi" district .overs Oregon. AVasliington and Alaska. He declares v. i,u no emnh'ves who work on a seven-hour basis, office hours are no nml it half hours a of-whom are outside men. actually put in an average of more than IS hours a lav he says. There Is no branc h of the government service, he declares, where the men are worked harder than 1n his department. "Kvery man In my department will average eight hours a day for day in the vear," he said. Captain Kdwards. of the steamboat Inspection service said he thought the new article about the hours of em ployment In government service was foolish. "I think royernment employes should work eight hours a day, hut what business is it of yours?" he asked. He Fald his men worked until they got their work done, whether it was seven cr 11! hours. "We have only one clerk, whose of fice hours are from 9 to 4:3a, but he work until he gets his work done," '.e ald. The rest of the employes are classified as outside men whose hours may he irregular. Arthur Merrill, the aforesaid clerk, figured up that 'the five men in that department had put in 2S70 hours and 20 minutes overtime during the year ending June 80. On a seven hour day basis this "would be equivalent to al most a year and a half overtime In one year for one man. Trie official hours for the Vnlted mee While bis public longer than seven day, the men. most States attorney's office are from 8:30 to 5, with an hour off for lunch. , "But the assistant attorneys are here nearly always for at least two hours every night." said Attorney rteajns. "This is not compulsory, but it Is unusual when a part of the -force docs not work at night. We work on Saturday afternoons, except during June, July and August, when by exec utive proclamation civil service em ployes are given Saturday afternoon off. Should Wot Be Private Snap. "I believe a man In public office should work a specified number of hours and enough more to get the "wor'c done. I believe a person ought to run a public office just like he would run his private office. A pub lic office should not be a private snap." John Montag, I'nited Sta(es mar shal, points out that his outside men are subjec t to duty any time they are i ailed, while his offiee employes work j enough overtime to average fully einht ! hours a day. lie says when his em-! ploycs are supposed to have Saturday afternoons off it is usually between , .' and 4 o lo- k before the work is fin ished so they c an leave. r do not believe that government ivil service employes are entitled to any greater pnvHegcs In the way of ours of employment taan those of similar lualiflcations and duties In irivate business." said I.ouis Sharp, hlef of the field division of the United states land office. "Tlie work performed by the clerks of my office is similar to that of a 'arge law office and it is my under standing that the hours of 'employ- "nt in such offices are seven and half hours, and under, per day. "When comparison of this kind is made the character of the work and Hie cjualif icatloiis of the employe chould be considered." TTp to Washing-ton. lleorge H. Cecil, district forester and whose department lias the great i st number of employes on a seven I. our day hasp;, said the question of lengthening the hours of work was a matter entirely up to the tiead of his department at Washington. "Personally." he said, "I do not be lieve you will get any mote work in vi e c lerb al grades l:i eight hours than you will In seven hours." T. C Burke, collector of customs, savs the wtrU of his department is so diversified that each employe has a particular v. oik to do. which 'al lies itself tnroughout the day. so that the work of any one employe could hardly be distributed to the other em ployes, and t the work oT the officH can lie clone nicely in seven hours a day. In the appraiser's department the work is handled in seven hours, but Appraiser C,e0r,",e It. Welter says it would be no advantage to work eilit 'tours as the work can be handled in seven and even if longer hours were observed the force could not be dimin ished. "When th work is necessary to be done we need all the men we have," lie said. More Honrs More Work. Lighthouse Inspector Robert War rack says the hours for his office ate fixed in Washington and he has noth ing to say. "It makes no difference to me. If the hours are increased to eight," he said. "I have no doubt if the hours were in creased we could get more work done." Colonel Potter of the corps of I'nited States engineers says he has given the inr.tter no thought and has no opin ion as to whether government em ployes should go on an eight hour work day basis. "The cUestion of salaries Is an im portant consideration," he said, "and my impression Is that those in pri vate life receive more than those em 1'loyed In public life." He pointed out that his assistant engineers were really heads of depart ments and a comparison between pub lic and private business was dilt'i'jult to make. Befnses to Talk. Receiver Smith of the I'nited States land office said the question of hours rested with the head of the depart ment at Washington. (leorge H. Marsh, clerk of the I'nited States district court, refused to discuss the matter for publica tion. There are other federal departments !n Portland which run on a seven hour work day basis. wm Ii as the lab oratory of grain standardization, the bureau of geological survey, immigra tion bureau and others. The heads of some of the depart ments interviewed said that they un derstood the hours were fixed by law. The law, whi"h was enacted in 18iS;l. says: "That hereafter it shall be the duty of the heads of the several exec utive departments, in the Interest of the public: service, to require of all clerks and other employes, of what ever grade or class, in their respec tive departments not less than seven hours of labor each day, except Sun clays and days declared public holi days by law or executive order." There was a time when the govern ment employes Included their lunch period of half an hour within the seven hours, thus working only six and a half hours a day, but that condi tion has been changed. Ill RESIGNS i BUT WILL MAINTAIN HEADQUARTERS HER El Pacific Jurisdiction of Mis sionary Society Will, Be in His Charge Henceforth. Dr. V. B. Hlnson, paMor of the First I Laptlst church, will take charge of the ! I Pac ific jurisdiction of the American i i , 1 j Paptlst Home Missionarv society Jan-i 'nary 1. I r. Hinson left Thursday night . for .St. Louis for a conference with the I executive committee of the .society re- i ) garding his new work, but will return ; j home next Friday to occ upy the pulpit i oi ine i tine ictnpce until cue iu.ii ji j the year. iJr. Hinson's resignation as pastor was accepted formally hy the congre gation of the First Uaptist church last .Sunday ! l'ter he had made a statement giving his reasons for resigning. In the conduct of his new office, I'r. Hinson will use Portland as his head quarters and will continue to resltie here. He vet a 1 months ago he moved into ills own home at View Point and there He will continue to live. Sunday IT. John Shape, pastor of (lie First Ut'ptist church of Spokane, will picat h at both morning and eve ning services. Dr. Snape was, before coming to Spokane, highly successful in both a ministerial and pastoral ca pacity In I tii a, N. V. He 1s declared to be a brilliant pulpit orator. Whether his presence in Portland al present is a coincidence or significant of something more important is not stated. Loot Identified by North Plains Man Shoes and clothing found In the house at East Forty-first street and Sixty-fourth avenue, raided by the de tectives yesterday, were Identified to day as stuff stolen from the Maya Bros.' mercantile stoYe at North Plaina recently. As a result of this, three men. Earl Braun, alias Charles Brown, Jamea Sullivan and Jack Caster, who were ar rested in the raid, will be charged with Brand larceny and taken to Hillsboro for trial. All three of the men have peniten tiary records. Giant powder and nitro glycerin. In adtion to safeblowing tools, were found In the house by De tectives Coleman. Snow, Hellyer, Tack abery and Goltz. The police today are searchlnp for a launch said to have been used .by the men in crimes that are charged against them. FAVORS INCREASE IN INCOME TAX LAW TO Tl REPLENISH mm McAdoo Offers "Suggsetion" Which May Be Taken as "Tip" by Friendly Members "Washington, Nov. 26. (U. P.) The administration will dodge a bond Issue If possible in getting funds for its In creased military program and for its other millions of needed dollars. In Issuing to the public a "sugges tion" that Increased Internal revenue taxation should provide additional moneys. Secretary of the Tivasu-y McAdoo said this is merely aj 'pro gram," but rolllk ians said ttiay tin plainly meant that corgrem should "take the tip" and act accordingly. I He suggested that lowering the c- j emption on income taxes forj single persons from IS000 to J-'Ooo. and for married persons $43nt to i;ioOt. would he one excellent means of getting more money. At the same time, he would have Income taxes above a cer tain point Increased. Retention of the emergency "war ta" and the su gar duty, along with taxation f gas A- I line and other aemi-luxury cQtnmodi- , ties. Is favored. McAdoo estimated that the country will need til J.Hiir,.- i 394 additional revenue in 1?1T. in- eluding the $93,800,000 required by ' the preparedness program. 1 i Only One "BKOMO QUTHXXTE" To ctt the geiiutn. cull fur full name I. XX A- ; TIVK BROMO OL'ININK. Dmk for tiitiiie ' , E W GROVE. Curei L'olil hi one IV. iV. A-l TRAM MARK FOR MEN Petitions In Circulation. Kugrue, Or., Nov. 26. A large num ber of the petitions to initiate a Mil for the repeal of t lie Sunday closing law are In circulation in Kugene. Sev eral hundred signatures were obtained the first day of their circulation. Wind Uprooted Big Trees Near Chehalis Chehalis. Wash.. Nov. -6 One of the most violent wind storms that has been known in this section for years cut down a swath of timber to the unit li west of Chehalis across the river Thursday, but so far as known no serious damage was done to any per son or to any property. Farmers liv ing in the valley at a safe distance from the storm state that it rivaled an eastern cyclone. Great fir tree.1; w ere toppled over and sortie Of them carried high into the air, with the root.s uppermost. Near the soutli western Washington fair grounds large limbs were snapped off fir trees in the Som ervillo grove. About noon for a few minutes a hail storm beat down furiously. All day long at intervals heavy rainfall, ac companied at times by wind, served to make the 1915 Thanksgiving one long to be remembered because of unpleas ant outdoor wea-ther. Mrs. Gordon Was a Native of Canada Kugene. Or.. Nov. 26. Thn funeral of Mrs. Martha Gordon, mother of William T. Gordon, assistant cashier of the First National bank of Kugene, and of Herbert Gordon of Portland, was held today. Mrs. Gordon died Wednesday at the age of 7 years. She was born in Ontario, Canada, and lived in Eugene since 1888. Her hus band, T. Gordon, died nine years ago. Besides her sons she leaves a third Nin, .lames A. Gordon, at Mansfield, Wash., and a daughter, Mrs. L. A. Milne, Kugene. Dayton Odd Fellows Elect New Officers Dayton, Or., Nov. 16. I. O. O. F. lodge. No. -0. of this city held its semi-annual election of officers last evening, electing J. G. Park noble grand; C Tt. Watson, vice grand; O '. Goodrich, secretary, and O. B. Rip pey. treasurer. Grand "hief Patriarch Robert An drus paid the lodge a visit and fa vorl the members with an interesting address, after which all enjoyed a banquet given by the Dayton En campment lodge. Former Oregon Publisher Is Sued Centralis. Wash., Nov. 26. A. E. Heaton, as assignee for Catherine Hrainard. has filed suit against J. D Quillen. publisher of the Winlock L,iv Wire, to recover the value of a trip to the Panama-Pacific exposition, which Miss Brainard claims she won In a newspaper contest staged by Quillen when he was publishing the Leader at Cottage Grove, Or. The girl claims the prize was never awarded her. $95 4- Buys a $6 Norfolk Suit at this store on Saturday! Extra pair of Knickers Free Xow's the time of the year to see that the boys are pro tected from Winter rains and winds. These suits will keep your boys warm and dry at a reasonable cost. I 'show the various styles in full-weight Norfolk Suits, nicely tailored from fancy mixtures, tweeds and cheviots. Boys' Store- Second Floor. Every Suit is guaranteed to give satis faction. On sale all day tomorrow regular $6.00 Suits only $4.95 $5.00 Norfolk Suits $3.95 Stout, serviceable cassimcrcs and mixtures, with extra knickers. A good Suit for school or play at a modest price. Buy them on Saturday for only vO73 Boys' and Children's Overcoats Handsome tweeds, cheviots and novelty woolens, thor oughly showerproofed. Many new patterns, woven es pecially for youthful wearers. Raglan or set-in sleeves ; velvet or self collars; double or single-breasted models. See them tomorrow at this store. $4.50 $5 $6 $7.50 $8.50 $10 $12.50 $15 BEN SELLING Safety First against chilling of tlu body ; often a forerunner of colds, pneumonia and rheumatism. Farnous over halt a century for its superior qualities. Every garment shaped to the figure and guaranteed not to shrink. Glastenburjr Two-Piece, Flat Knit Spring-Needle Underwear is made in lifteeit grades, several weights of line wools, worsted and merino. See special feature of adjustable drawer band On Natural (".niy Wool, wlnt.r wifht .er garment II. H Natural Gray Wmil. intr waight (duuhle thread) r ariur-ul .1.71 .Natural iray Worsted, lictat w.ujht er .laruirnt 1.M Natural iitay Australian Lamb ura l. light weifbt I"T uariuent 1.7 Natural (Hay Woratrd. medium weight per yarinriit H UD Natural Uraj Australian Lamb's Wuul. winttr ci(bt per gariuaul U 60 For Sal. by Leaduif Dealers Fleischner, Mayer & Co., Wholesale Distributor, Portland, Oregon Write for booklet sample cutting.. Yours fnr the axtlng;. Pept. &0. Glastonbury Knitting Company, Glastonbury, Conn. Oldest Bank in the Northwest MORRISON ST. AT FOURTH Washington and ! Third Carefully Consider the personnel of the direc tors of any bank before becoming its patron. The directors of this strong state bank are of long service and experience in banking; they give their daily attention to the man agement of its affairs; their financial acumen and wise direction have made this bank what it is, of foremost importance and strength among state banks. LADD & TILT0N BANK Capital and Surplus, Two Million Dollars. ares st mt 1 fi m Moyer $15 Suits. Overcoats and Raincoats If you need new clothes, remember $15 will go farthest at Moyer's. There are no clothes at the price like Moyer's $15 clothes. When you see it in our ad, it's so! Second and Morrison MOYER Third and Oak 1 .W. I 1. i!'.'r I COMMON SENSE AND HEALTH COMMON sense tells you that real health cannot be forever dependent upon the artificial stimulation of laxatives and cathartics. Drugs relieve constipation temporarily but never cure it. Nujol is odorless and tasteless, absolutely neutral, and is not digested or absorbed into the system. It acts merely as a mechanical lubricant. Nujol is not a drug. Its use will not give quick, temporary relief. But Nujol is a genuine remedy in that it relieves con stipation in the most natural way by lubricating the lining of the intestines, softening the intestinal contents, and thus promoting healthy and normal bowel activity. STANDARD OIL COMPANY (Nevr Jersey) I Baqronae New Jersey Nil A PURE WHITE MINERAL OIL m xmt of ';-S Post. r''i- &3 & m - Ol orr. Write for "The Rational Treatment Constipation, an informative treatise on constipation. If you can not get Nujol from your druggist, we will send you a pint bottle pre paid to any point in tne United States on receipt of 75c money order or Stamps ! I to Willamette Valley and Tillamook Bay Points You Can Go on Saturday or Sunday and Return on Monday rnsHTHO Ik fine) fn the various ValN-y ulrrnnif , alo In thp Halmonlierry and Nelialcm rivers In TlllaaBook County. tTSXTOBS In the Wlllnmette Vnlley are mnny Interest lng places to be visited. EUOEHB 12.0R.1. Homo of I'nlvoraltv "f OreKon: 113 miles south of Portland on Wlll.-i met ti: Klver. Round trip ft-1.80. Ax.BAxnr .MiOii. Albany College. tvl,lo)i hn lately -cured an endowment of t J."iO,(Hiij. Mount Jef ferson fl& mile to thu cunt. Hound trip, noek-end, 93. lO. 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