LTETERS ABSOLUTELY
NECESSARY, ASSERTS
THE CHIEF ENGINEER
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u, u. uianc or water Bureau
,i. r I r a pr i i
! IJfiC arfiS SVStem knQUlU
Is-!':,. - . . .. . .
I be Installed at- UnCe,; :
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SIGNED StATEMENT MADE
Heters Offer Solution of to Quss-
! , tloa of Coasmnption; jrigtres ,
I - - ' ' Are Bnsmlttedl
i Despite statements to- the effect that
lie did not believe water juterj are
necessary at this time, D. D. Clarke,
chief engineer of the water bureau,
,the nan under whom 'th rter t?a
reau has developed, in a signed stater
nent yesterday 'Bays that, water met
ers are absolutely necessary and their
Installation should begin at once. c
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1" 0110 win i is his statement:
I an unqualifiedly in favor of the
fetfcy of extending the use f meters
... Jirvtil every! service In4 the city Is .sup
plied; and furthermore 1 believe that
t he workr should commence at once and
ie continued as rapidlv a is consist
ent1 with economy of operation,
J I I thinlt jBany . havo gotoed an er
roneous impression regarding the time
required to complete tnis. wdrit, " The
time that will Actually be taKen" will
Jlepend upon the growth of the tity
. and the rapidity -with which the prt-s-nt
mains are overloaded, but in my
.opinion it is not probable that the
Hverk of A metering present service
Vtll be completed - in less -than live
years... . -, . '
. i Meters rouad Advantageous.
i 'The experience ' of rother cities 'in
ihis respect is that the installation of
meters on old services at the rate of
from 'fb per cent to S per cent per
rear produces satisfactory results, and
bare no reason to think eueh a plan
v would not .work v advantageously in
. Portland. By this ; method the con
sumption would be gradually regulated
end controlled as the cjt7 grows thus
deferring the time when larger mains
must be laid, and hence a saving in in
terest chir' wIH be eftected.
"A an ii'nsrratl'wi of the probable
effect of tils regulation srd cor.tror I
will state that on Nov-miber 30, l:4,
the total mileage of water pipes in use
iti this-city, f all sz?s. was 671.2
tntles. Of this number M3.1 miles
were four njh diameter end over,
, leaving 128.2 miles of pipes less than
Jfour Inches diameter, only about elx
for cent being larger than two Inch
iametef.
Cost of Maters Estimated.
S "Ths estimated population supplied
Unit ritv water on above date was
! 152,000, or an average of 375 per mil
tf pipe, or 4,o & resiaiuj? uiong mo
28.2. miles of small pipes and sup
plied by approximately 10,000 ter-t
Vices. Assuming the cost of meters
for these services to be $10 each, in
place, the total cost would be $100,000.
i "The 128.2 miles of small mains will
Unquestionably in time have to be re
placed with larger-sized pipes ?s th
' population Increases amd the demand
pon these particular pipes exceeds
their normal capacity.
I "The cost of substituting six inch
anfl eight ins h mains for these smaU.peciaHy during the sprinkling season;
pipes will approximate 676 896 f eet j JOHN STRAUS; 667 East .Morrison
St 11 401 $947,654.40, and Interest on
lama at per cem, ."". ,
"If it Is assumed then that the serv
iceable life of but one half of these
mall pipes could be prolonged for five
years the saving In interest charges
.lone would be $106,611.10. or more
than sufficient to cover the Cost of
Installing meters on the entire mile
age of small pipes; and. besides, the
meters would still be good for years
f service til detecting leaks and in
suring that each consumer is required
o pay only for the water actually
sed by him. v
' '' asnob Interest to Be Saved.
''I "I have no doubt that if meters had
.fceen installed generally in the Fenln-
' ula district three or four years ago
the laying of the 30 inch; Highland
I main, now being completed at an ap-
proximate cost of ,!$225.000. could have
been delayed for at least five or ten
1 ears with the saving of the interest
! Charges, amounting to approximately J
: sio.ooo per annum.
"Based upon the recorded consurnp
1 tlon through 12.585 meters during the.
i year 1914, the average per capita con.
I sumption was found to range from
j 336.5' gallons la th west side busl-
Iiess district to 127.3 gallons in sthe
! east . side business district, down to
ll.9 gallons per day in- the district
supplied through, the Vernon stand
i pipe, the average for the residence dis-
Your Mowery should I
Be took, good
SERVANT
-t Money : is the servant, of
intelligence.
" , i : It; will dress yon in a
, -.manner that will show your
. .real worth - to the critical
crowd.
,'A clever appearance pays
' J; dividends to a man's seli
rrespect and self-confidence.
. f The well - dfessed men
' j know that the material,
style and ' workmanship of
j our suits brought them sat-
. . isfaction -and service.
Let us show you a Schloss
or Sophomore suit that, for
merly sold at $20 to $30 '
this week at $13.00 $16.00
and $19.00.
Phegley&Cavender
Cor. Fourth and Alder.
2-" '
fVict alone, la the entire city, being
64. i gallons per day. .
; BMlteUasa Art ' '
"Deducting tee record of the meters
in the east and west side business dis
tricts, and assuming that a fair supply
for aU other services In the city would
not exceed the arerage rate through
meters In the residence districts : (64.1
gallons per day per capita this will
give a total -daily consumption of 20
810.00 fallout for tb entire city.
This amount Is appreciably" less than
the capacity of conduit No. 1 which
' exceeds 32iOQ.0eo gallons per day J.
-if t above amount s,9.oo
gallons per aay was actually passea
. tfarouah meters and paid for at pre.
eat meter rates. IS cent Per eubie
feet, or It cent, per 100 gallons,
the yearly income would amount to
ll.0Jl.481.sor say (171,000 in excess of
the entire receipts of the department
for water Isold daring ! the year 11 4,
when the water actually furnished ap
proximated 10,090,000 gallons per day.
If aU the water furnished 30,000,000
gallons was metered, the rates could
be reduced 4 per cent, or from 12 1-2
to 8 cents per, 1000 gallons, and the
revenue would ' stnl exceed that: ob
tained during the past year.
&os Angeles Kttoatlea Quoted.
- "Los Angeles has completed a sys
tem of aqueducts and-pipes of large
size conreylng a 23.000,000 gallon
gravity supply from .a mountain
source 225 grilles distant, at a cost of
ever $27,0(fi),00O. It appears that they
i.ow have an abundant supply for
which they have no immediate use ex
cept f os irrigation purposes, ' and yet
this i&what William Mulholland. chief
engineer of the Los Angeles' water de
partment, has to say upon the subject
of a universal meter system:
. We favor ; meters: because we be
lieve it is the only fair and equitable
method of gelling water; ; because it
prevents waste, and because it accom
plishes a saving In size of mains which
would otherwise b required. We have
been metering for 12 year at as fast
a rate as finances will permit. We in
tend to continue tbis policy until every
tap in the city is metered. Comple
tion of aqueduct In no way changes
our policy in this regard.' :'.
- "This statement was made subse
quent to the completion of the new
conduit. ..
"A majority of the water works en
gineers and managers the country over
favor the Installation of meters:
I,; ,"D, D. CLAEKE.
"Engineer,! Water Bureau."
ALL CLASSES -INDORSE
METERS; .SWEEPING
TESTIMONIALS GIVEN
(Continued From Page One.
us. "We like the, idea of paying for
what wo get. , ' '
E. C. DOLAN,. proprietor of the
Rosarian cafeteria, 346 Washington
street I believe in metering the city
and make the people pay for the water
they use and waste. I have seen peo
ple let water run all nig hi.
C. C. BROWN, manager of the
Mad I son Parlt apartments -I am very
much in favor of meters, as I think
they will save the consumers money.
MRS. a. H. GUTHRIE, 657 Everett
Street My meter is perfectly satis
factory to me.
v II. VETTER, 665 Everett street I
have got a meter here and now I want
one for a house I have on the east side.
I am one of the 1700 to file an applica
tion for a meter. -
S. S. McFADDEN, 664 East Alder
street 1 have had a meter for several
years, r am well satisfied and think
it Is the only thing. 1 find that it is
Sittlch cheaDer ' than. - the flat rate es-
street A meer is the only Just way
water can be- distributed. All ser
vices should be metered or we should
take out the meters.
1 "Ws Want Meters."
WILLIAM FILBERBAUM, 374 Park
street Especially during the sprink
ling season do we favor the meter. Our
bills are less than under the flat rate.
E. M. NELSON. 704 Market street
I am heartily in favor of meters and
wouldn't "be without one. All my
neighbors have meters and everyone
up here will vote for them. I have a
lot and a third to sprinkle and in ad
dition irrigate a garden, glie most I
pay is 75 cents a month. We want
the meters. t
O. R. MILLER, 914 East TamhlU
street I've got a meter on my house
and on my barber shop. At the shop
1 used to pay $2 a month. About six
months ago I got a meter and now it
costs me only SO cents a month. We
use all the water we want,. to sprinkle,
to wash the porches and for household
purposes and, believe me, I am for th
meters.
MRS. ROBERT TREAT PLATT, 6 S3
Johnson street With a meter we are
paying about half what we paid under
flat rate system. We find that meters
are much better than the flat rate, as
we pay only for the water we use.
MRS. -C. A. WHITMORE, 657 John
son treet-Our meter' has proven all
that w could wish for.
MRS:.E. G. CL1NE, 661 Johnson
street-; Our meter is satisfactory in
every way and we think It is the only
way to5 serve water equitably.
MRS. N. WOLFF, 666 Kearney
street I have no complaint to make
with our-meter which we have had for
four years.;
C. II. BARNELL, 716 Overton
street I like the meter fine. Wouldn't
have anything else. ' ;
A. E." LINCOLN, 500 Davenport
street I have had a meter for ; years
and never -had the least bit of trouble.
MRS. J. P. MARSHAL, 15 Ella
street The meter is a great saving.
We have a lawn, to sprinkle too. I
wouldn't have. ; anything else 'but a
meter. . ,
MRS." W. B. MITCHELL. 681 Rod
ney avenue I have had a water meter
f or . three years and : can say that I
have, used all the water I desired for
sprinkling the lawn ' and household
purposes, and have saved money. I
believe'-everyone .should have a meter.
GEORGE W; SINNEN, 334 Cook
street I'm going to vote . for , meters.
Meters are1 the only fair .way to. ad
Just water 'rates. -"'.'':
; J.: C. TAGLE, 691 Rodney' avenue I
have been, a1 water user for some time
and believe- that to maintain a suffi
cient supply during the warm weather
when water is needed that meters are
desirable, t ;,
Oets Fleaty f or Lain, k
HR. H. v J. MTTT'TTV.T.T. 1037 Bl-
f mont My lawn gets plenty of water
ana .looks fine. . I am very well, satis
fied with a meter and I never nave
used over the minimum. It's the best
way tKil -water. -
RESIfiEKT at 340 East Twenty
ninth street Tell i Daly to leave my
water meter in. I am for them and
we need them. - .
MRS. C. If. DAVID, 188 North
TwenUeth-t-I have used a meter for
more than two years and find it very
satisfactory.
MRS. M. STEELE, 948 East Taylor
street I ara strongly in favor of met
ers. I believe all services should have
them, x I pay I only 50 cents a month
and -certainly would not like to have
the meter, taken away from me.
C. W. DRUCHEL, 266 , Chapman
street J get off cheaper, with the
meter'and don't pay for -more than I
THE ' OREGON
Mm : ;v j '.
use. I am going to keep the meter as
long as they will let me.
MRS. D. W. COLLIER. 907 Thur
man street We are perfectly satisfied
with our meter and .prefer it to the
flat rate system.
8. Mi DAVIS, 667 Halsey Am very
much In favor of meters. I shall vote
for the ordinance as it stands.
MRS. H. LOEFFLER, 337 Fremont
street I shall vote for the ordinance
as . meters ana the only fair and just
way to distribute and; charge for
water.
MRS. M. R. DUNCAN, 1087 Belmont
The meter has reduced my water bill
25 cents a month.
Boosting for Measure.
S. E. VAN HORN, 1199 East Salmon
street I have had a meter for seven
years, and certainly 1 am in favor of
them.
MRS. O. L. COLBY, 798 Harold ave
nue I have been boosting for the me
ters all day. I am strongly in favor of
them, and hope the ordinance passes.
E. C. ROSSMAN, 1080 Cleveland ave
nueThe person who uses water should
pay accordingly. Meters are satisfac
tory. PAUL D. WHETZEL, 335 Monroe
street I am well satisfied with the
meter, and my entire family will vote
for the ordinance..
MRS. JENNIE BENSON, 1106 East
Morrison street I would not think of
renting a house that did not have a
meter. I wouldn't be without one, and
I am going to vote for that ordinance.
E. FERG, 286 Monroe street I think
that meters will mean a big saving to
the taxpayers.
O. N. PIERCE, 912 East Tenth street
North I wouldn't be without a meter.
Before meters were , installed In. thjs
district water was wasted so much I
couldn't get enough for my own use.
Now we have plenty, and our water
bills are less.
MRS. H. KNIPPEL, 929 East Fif
teenth street North Certainly I am in
favor of meters. We find that, with
the meter, our water costs less.
Keters Good Thing.
F. TAYLOR, 1111 East Salmon' street
Meters are a good thing to have in
the family where there is no milk.
CHARLES ADWEN, 343 Fremont
street Under the flat rate 1 paid $3 a
month, while my neighbors with meters
paid only 80 cents. I got a meter, and
I am tickled to death. It's the only
fair way of paying for water. Hurrah
for meters.
A. W. DYE, 362 Fremont street I
have been using the meter for the last
year, and I find it much cheaper and
better in every way.
CAPTAIN- J; H. PILTZ, 1089 Belmont
street -I wouldn't think of moving into
a house where there is no meter. It's
the only proper way to charge for
waterl
MRS. L, B. MARSHAL, t69 East
Tenth street North Meters are the
only thing.
MRS. GEORGE BLUM. 872 East
Tenth street North I have a meter,
and can say it's the best way to buy
water.
MRS. A. R. WATSON. S63 East Tenth
street North Best service Is on a me
ter, and it's cheaper. '
DAISY ABRAHAM, 1105 ; Belmont
street No one should object to paying
for what is used., I am willing to pay
for all . the water I use, and am well
pleased with the meter.
R. W. Wood. 101 Sixth street I've
got a meter and pay only 60 cents a
month, while many others I know, not
on a meter, pay more.
A. L. O'BRIEN, 1192 East Taylor
street We have no fault to find with
our meter. "
MRS. HOLGATE, 1107 Belmont I
like water meters better than the flat
rates, and they are much cheaper.
MRS. LUNDHARD, 1028 Belmont
We favor meters and find them satis
factory. : . ' ' - -
MRS. GEORGE ROHE. .1060 Belmont
I think the meters are good, pro
vided they don't raise the rates - "
MRS.. W. M. HARTFORD. 1080 Bel-monyr-I
find . the meters more satis
factory than the flat rate.
A. j. MEVES. .313 Washington street,
restaurant I believe in meters. It is
the only fair way to furnish water to
consumers. It will stop the waste of
water. We are metered and satisfied.
C. JACOBSEN. 207 Second street
I believe in the meters. Mt gives the
small man a square deal.
8. STRITZMAN. , 185 Thirds street.
Palace barber shop I believe the only
proper way is to meter the city, and
let everyone pay according to what
he uses. -
MRS. V. WESTLUND. 884 East
Tenth N. We don't pay as much as
we used to. If we don't use the hose
we don't have to pay for it. Sure we
like the 'meter. .
MRS. A. LEAF. 911 East Tenth- N.
Does not cost any more than it Use-I
to. .Ws.use all the water we want. Are
In favor f 'ineters. ;!-' i.-v - ..
J. P. GRIFFIN, .145 Broadway, own
er Cat'n Fiddle I am Jnjfavor of put
ting meters on water to equalize the
system and therefore everybody will
be treated alike and pay: for Just what
they use.
O. BRAVER, E. Twentieth N.
X have a meter and am in favor Of
them. ' Think the . installation of
meters should be general.: ..;.
MRS. E. WENT, 621 Going Hops
SUNDAY JOURNAL, PORTLAND, SUNDAY MORNING, JUNE 6, 1915.
POINTING THE WAY
SEATTLE SETS GOOD
EXAMPLE ON WATER
MEIER
Eighty Per Gent of Irjdivrdual
Service Metered, Points
Out Expert Engineer, 5
Seattle has a water supply at its
source five times as great as Port
land's. .
Seattle finds it necessary, and equit
able, and economical to meter 80 per
cent of the individual services.
"Cedar Creek, source of Seattle11
water supply, with Cedar lake, has a
minimum outflow of 400 second feet;
Portland has from Bull Run river a
minimum of 72 second feet, -
."If Seattle finds it necessary to
have meters, why shouldn't Portland?"
inquired J. H. Ctg-ningham, member of
the American Society of Civil Engi
neers, with offices in the .Spalding
building, yesterday.
"Commissioner Daly's assertion that
the minimum outflow of -BuU Run'
river is2 second feet or 48,000,000;
gallons daily during the low water of
summer months is perfectly accurate.
"That is only 3,000,000 gallons aj
day more than the carrying capacity
of one of our two pipe lines.
"The assertion Is contested by an
angler whose .letter in the Oregonian
is piven fuH space.
"Mr. Daly's positionr' is certified to
by the United States geologic irveys
made by disinterested government ex
perts. , "Water meters were Indorsed by res
olution of the local branch of the
American Society of Civil Engineers
last year and again at a recent meet
ing. Metering i is the only way by
which a water supply cjin be handled
satisfactorily to consumers. 1
"I wouldn't expect a person who
knew that the I fixtures at his : house
were leaky to ask for a meter to de
tect 'the waste.;
"I know that last year so much
waste water ran on some of the 'Irving
ton lawns that mosquitoes bred in the
Uttle pools in the grass and became
a nuisance. J j
"They talk about creating storage
on Bull Run river. There is only one
available storage site that I know of
Bull Run lake, and it is not directly
connected with the river,
the meters will carry. We are only
a small family ;and on meter and find
our bills are much less than on a flat
rate. ' ' " ! s '
Bats Mads Cheaper.
P. H. HICKS. 441 ,Mason For my
own home I find the meter the finest
thing out.- Has resulted, in-, making
my rate cheaper. " '-
MRS. CHARLES CRAGSTER, 349
West Twenty-ninth We are very well
satisfied with sour meter and prefer
it to the old flat rate system.
J. WOLLENHANPT. 714 Glisan
People get their water for less money,
pay for what they get and no more.
CLARK & CO., 60 North Twenty
third We favor the meter because it
saves us money. . ,
W. E. CHASE, 11 E. Sixtieth N.
The meter suits me and everybody who
Is willing to Use water right, so far
as I have heard.
J. S. ROARK, 1526 E. Burnside My 1
meter is entirely satisfactory. I know
X pay for Just what I gets
68 East Twenty-first N. Meter suits
us personally all right.
E. C. MEARS. 668 Everett street
Have had a meter in use at my: house
for several years. It is entirely satis
factory and I, believe the meter is a
good thing. . M - ' - - .".'&
A. L. FORD-WARREN", 334 : Mont
gomery Our bills have been less since
we had the meter. "
W. H. DUFUR, 1075 Belmont My
water has been;much cheaper by meter.
MRS. T. C Shea, 1035 Belmont I
use just as much water as if on flat
rate and find my bills are less. I pre
fer meter to flat rate. ' ?
" MARGARET: E. GORDON. 1107 East
Morrison Our ; bill . hps seldom been
over the minimum charge. Am in. favor
of meters. ' .
D. C. BALING. ,1122 East Morrison
We" like the meter. We pay for what
we use and bills are very reasonable;
Would not be without a meter. -,
Pay According ts- Use. n
"MRS. M. CAAB, 667. Irving -'street
We thinit the j meter the only proper
way to charge for ,water. t Then you
pay for what you use. V iN -
EDITH REED, 667 Hoyt street We
have used meter for a long time and
find it entirelyi satisfactory. 1
MRS. F, C. HIGGS, 988 Raleigh We
have had our meter since we came here
and are well pleased with the service.
W. T. SHIREY, 43 Mason street
We have - been better . satisfied ;with
meters than we - were -before.
MRS. C F. i PEDERSOSI, 890 East
PROPOSITION
Tenth North I like the meter.
Per-
fectly satisfied.
F. A. BATES, 400 Failing Why
should my neighbors be paying 60
cents for house use and $3 a year for
hose, which is 810.20 a year, when I
can use all the water I want for $6
and do not have to sign for sprinkling
nor bothered by inspectors as to
whether I am wasting water. I want
to say that I am strictly In favor of
meters.
J. H. ELTZ, 1067 Belmont Have
used meters for three years and bills
reasonable. We think meters are the
right thing.
MRS. JESSIE CONRAD. 154 East
Thirty-fifth street 1 believe in meters
and think every house should have
them. My water bills are reasonable
on meter.
G. E. HUMBERSTONE Have been
thoroughly satisfied since water meter
was installed.
ALBERT HILL, "The Rent Man,"
288 Russell street The meter sys
tem properly administered will cer
tainly prove a benefit to this city. My
experience has been that it provides a
more equitable rate for large consum
ers. A. F. GREEN, 565 Rodney avenue.
Am in favor of meters. Think they are
more satisfactory to consumers who
are willing to pay for all they use.
Plan Money Saver.
J. M. ATTERBURY, 311 Dekum ave-
ineiei. imnK u iua uaif ju way bq
a money saver, - ,
MRS. H. VIESKO, 312 Saratoga
Any one that has a meter is certainly
satisfied with it. That has been our
experience. '
Home Creamery, MRS. S. FANNLER
Am heartily in favor with water
meters. I think- they are the most log
ical solution to the water question.
S. E. MOESER, 363 Monroe street I
believe in the meter system because it
gives each and every one a square
deal. The man without a meter will
let his water run a great many timefi
when it is not doing- himself nor any
body else any good.
G. B. CARNELL, Empress hotel.
30 Stark I believe In metering the!
city. Only satisfactory way. Treats
all alike and stops the waste of water, 1
MRS. FRED D. WRIGHT. 910 East 1
Tenth Nortli Our bills have. Just been .
all right. We are not saving in water,
get better service, more water and the
cost is less. ' J
MRS. H. BRILL. 906 East Tenth-!
North We think the meters are all ;
right.
MRS. EMMA I REED, 349 -Cook f
avenue I am in favor of ths, water
meter, as it places all on an equal
basis. My experience has been on both
flat and meter rates, and the meter is
far cheaper. -II.
J. OX. 369 Fargo street Think
the meter is a benefit to the small wa
ter user, as well as the large. Am "very
much in favor of the water meter.
' 894 East Tenth street North Ws
rather have the-meter. We have less!
water rate to pay. , .
Perfectly Satisfied.
W. C. CLOW, 907 East Tenth street
North It is more fair. I would rather'
have a water meter. The old way It'
cost so much more ... .' .
MRS. W. E. STEVENSON, 909 East
Tenth street North I much prefer the
meter. Am perfectly satisfied.
6. ."NUDEEMAN,; 981 'East Twenty
first street I find that I can use all
the watetr X need, and it costs me less
than when on a flat rate. Am in favor
of general Installation.
MRS. W. B. CREWDSON, 1062 East
Ninth street North Meters are the
fairest tp those who use all the .water
they need, and the, only cure for the
water-hog. Using water for household
purposes, lawn and garden costs mefj
less man wnen on im rate. 1 am de
cidedly in favor of meters. . , - -!
F. N. FREER. 4 48 BroadwayOn the
whole, I favor the meter.
MRS. G. A. WELSH, 542 Broadway
I prefer the meter. My rate is less
now than" it was before.
MRS. R. H. ROVER. 544 Broadway J
I think - the - meter is realty a good
thing. . i
MRS. M'DOWELL. 449 East Ninth!
street North We are very much satis
fied with the meter.
; BARBARA B. BALTIMORE, 455
East Eighth street North Personally,
I am in favor of the meter system.
L.-A. HOLM AN, 412 Sacramento
Everybody should .have a meter, then
he pays for what he gets.
MRS. F. M. MILES,. 337 Eugene
street We have a meter, and are well
satisfied. - I ' . 1
MRS. HELENA SPRANER. 308 Sac- J
ramento All should be treated alike.
Am for meters. .
O. A. LEICH, 81 Sacramento Me
ter system is the best way
.MRS. L M." , WALKER. 1109 East
Morrison. We are pleased with meter.
Water rent Is less. w-
-MRS. R. G. RICE, 1114' E. Morrisoiu
I would prefer r meter. Bills have
been; reasonable., Would, not be with
out meter. .
j MRS. G. A. DOUGLAS, 1121 Belmont
street.! certainly am in favor of t
meters. i Know we save money by;
having a meter. Would not be without j
one. ... ( j
MRS. WILLIAM FEHRENBACKER, j
1093 Belmont I am. vry well satis-
L'ed with meter. Bills have been rea-
CHARLES MAUTZ. 101 E. 33rd st.
T would not be without a meter. My
bills are less. The meter is Justice.'
H. I. WARDEN. 1085 Belmont. -I
use all. the water we want and have
never paid over the -minimum charge
except one time when Jtoilet was leak
ing. eT . .
F. & HYDE.' 718 East Yamhill. I
have meter on my house and would
not be without It." Our bills are much
less than when on flat rats. '
Find Xt O. X.
MRS. IL LYONSv 1447 Cleveland ave.
1 We have bad a meter for some time
and are perfectly satisfied with iU Our
water rent ts cheaper than -ever be
fore. ,?;:::.: : ; H ';-. : h ? '
W. N. GARY. 181 Bfc ttih st Ws
favor the meter and find It O. Ki- and
it gives the ether fellow a cbanoe. :
MRS. R. J. COOPER.1 1960 East Tay
lorWe think the jneters are aU right
and would not do without one.
W. E. MABEN. 864 E.' 13th st, N-
We have been using ths water meter
for two and one-half years at this ad
dress and at no time have we ever
passed - the . amount due us as our
monthly allowance, although ws use
all we want for ths house, lawn and
garden and at no tims havs ws ever
paid over ths minimum irate per month,
which' under the flat rate would -havs
added the 83 sprinkling charge for the
summer season. 1 would refuse i to
rent any house which was not metered.;
MRS. F. A. ERICK, 17 J Belmon.t st,
My water rent has been .reduced by
having meter. I think meter prevents
waste and- reduces billJ c '
E. PEAKS, 677 Halsey I have a
meter and prefer to have one.
MRS. CATHERINE BRACKETT. 348
Grant N. I favor . meters. I think it
is cheaper and more hottest. : Have had
meter since meters were J first . in
stalled. ' Am well satisfied. ; .
MRS. P. J. SMlTHi671 GUsan sC
We like meters much better than
flat rate, as our water rate is cheaper.
MRS. BECKWITH. 654 Irving We
think the meter is fine. We have
never had .anything else.
J. T. CONCANNQN, 181 N. 21st.
We think it the only fair way tp give
the consumer what they' pay for.
HOFFMAN BROS.. 768 Glisan.
Since meter was installed we have
paid less for water.
MRS. D. A. McRAE. 346 Montgomery
I think the meter is the only eatls-
vfactory method of using water.
j. N. FEAnvi, Btontgomery.
The, meter has reduced the cost of the
water at least one-half what it was
before and we use all we want. Think
the meter is the proper tblng.
Tried It Pour Years.
MRS. FV T. GREER, 483. East Eighth
N. Am satisfied with j the .meter and
prefer to keep same.
MRS. W. T. - WADE, f 4 6 6 East Sev
enthN. By all means jl am in favor
of the meter system.
MRS. J. I. DILLON. 451 Tillamook
corvmeMT ists
kUPPSNMSIMC
Bm
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With price
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$20 Men's
Garments .
$25 Men's
Garments .
Hot
Men's" $10 and $15 Palm Beaeh
' " Suits, now at ...... . . $8.00
, Men's $5.00 Panama Hats $4.35
Men's $3.00 Brook Straws $2.45
Men's $2.50 Straw Hats $1.65
$5 - $6 Outing Trousers $3.85
Men's $1.50 Sport Shirts $1.15
Women's
Boys $10
Children's
v
Successors to pp
Steinbach & Co.
The Store of 100 Per Cent
V
X am satisfied with, the water jmeter. .,. j
Everybody should have a . meter.
MRS. LOUISE LEICH. 46Vancou
ver For my part I like the ijneter.
E. J. G- GORDON, 355 East Sixth
street N.--l think the meters kre more
honest -than flat rate. Have I had one
for f oar years and am in favor of
them. ' 1 . - ' v- -v- r . -: yv -.p
, M. GAMMlE, 348 East Slxtleenth N.
We haye meter and : are ber fectly
satisfied. J Think it ""much cbekper and
more honest.
MRS. 3.4. Ha-M. 1088- Belmont! street
We are satisfied with the meter and
have found things satisfactory.
F. . L. GEORGE. .741 Weldleif f have
a meter and like it much beittr than
the flat i rate. Think , it s Is much
cheaper. ' ,
MRS., HARRY M. 1 HENDERH ALU
680 Broadway I have a meter and like
them. ' Think they are much cheaper.
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Will Save Monev If
'Amendment Passes
'The!; adoption of ; proposed amend
ments ' to j the Bancroft bond ing act.
ballot Noi 114, will lessen the burden
to properityvowners bonding their prop
erty far street and sewer assessments
under the Bancroft bonding f act and
save J the f city mOney.i f The amend
ments will allow, property owners to
bond where the assessments re 15 or
more, will provide for 20-semi-annual
Installments Instead of 10 as at pres
ent and allow the city to collect and
pay the interest on improvement bonds
when It becomes due. - The city has ad
vanced about 3760,000 to pay the inter
est on outstanding bonds an d stands
no chancel of getting this money back
uriless the amendment is adopted Mon
day. : ;- P,..
A. R. Specht Pays
Portland a i Visit
- A. R. Specht, former manager of the
Owl Drugi company's local store and
now Southern California manager : of
the Owls "from Los Angeles to San
Diego." is iback in Portland) after a
year's "absence and just in time to at
tend the Rose Festival. .
Of course, he does not admit that
the festival nad anything to do. with
his sudden desire to make a business
trio to - Portland and the northwest.
but he personally' confirmed the re
port last night that he is gjlad to be
back in the Rose, city if only for a
few days, i Ho" plans to retuifn sto Cal
ifornia the latter part of next week
and In tfre meantime will visit Seattle
and Spokane. - .
T
COrTMIOMT (!
tUirPINHIIMIl
KUrPSNMSIMS
Solely because of the backward season, we must
reduce our stocks at once. Hence these deep re
ductions now instead of in July. Men's and young
men's Kuppenheimer and Cambridge Spring and
Summer 1915 garments, and boys' and children's
apparel, all included in this stirring event. ;
(pleairaEce
Is Now in Progress
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reductions that will compel immediate-buying.
Here's a hint of how. you 'save : C . 1
$30 Men's
Garments.
$35 Men's
Garments
Blues, Blacks, Full Dress and
Tuxedos
- Weather Clothes Reduced
Men's $10.00 Golf Coats $7.85
Men $5 Ralston Oxfords $4.35
MenV $4.00 and $5.00 Oxfords,
odd lines, close out: at $12.45
; Men's $2.00 Shirts; now, $1.45 ;
Men's $i,00 Neckwear, now 65
Men'k $3.0J5" Pajamas now $2.15
and Misses $10 and $15 Coats.
and $12.50 Norfolk Suits, now.
Wash Suits, special ndw at.
GUS KUHN.vPreS.- '.
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GROCERS OPPOSING
BIGELOW BECAUSE
': OF MARKET POLICY
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Butchers Are Also in Combi
nation . VVhich Is Support
ing Baker and Adams,
Tne controlling members In the gro
cers and butchers organisation are
determined to put ' the public markets
out of business, ' If possljtile. They
want, by all means, to defeat Commis
sioner C A. Blgelow, the cHampJon of
the pubUo markets.
" t Yesterday the grocers and butchers
came out openly In support of Georue
Ij. Baker and William Adams for com
missioners. . It was persistently re
ported that an understanding between
the. grocers and the butchers and Bak
er and 'Adams had been reached.
".Yes, sir, the grocers are support
ing Baker and Adams," said Robert G.
Duncan, secretary : of the Retail Gro
cers' association, yesterday. "We don't
care what it costs so long as Blgelow
Is defeated. We are going to deliver
all the votes we aii to elect Baker
and Adams and defeat Blgelow."
He said the grocers And thir allied
interests controlled about 6000 vots.
Several days ago Duncan wrote
Blgelow about the public markets, in
timating that the 6000 votes he men
tions would be against him if he stood,
for the public markets.: Blgelow re
plied that he refused to be sandbagged
or coerced- Into opposing public msr
kets or anything else in which he be
lieved. :. .
. Brothers of A.danis are in the whole
sale butchering business. Asked if
he thought the public markets were
a good thing for thecity, Adams re
fused to say. , ;
' "I think the markets are a permai
nent institution in the city." he said.
'It is no a question of regulation."
Baker also sidestepped ' the ques
tion. He said: .'.. I .
-I am in favor of a legitimate pub
lic market for the sale of the farmers'
produce direct to the consumer, but
not as a bartering place for those who
are not genuine producers."
As only producers are allowed to
sell at the public markets now. Ba
ker's meaning is not clear,
Mrs. Josephine R. Sharp, mother ol!
the Alberta public market, heard th
report yesterday and went to see Ad
ams. She said she was also unable to
get a satisfactory reply from htm.
She said he dodged the question,
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eorrniaHT
KUPFIMMCIHIN
Included.
.... .$4.85
.. ...$6.85
. . .$1.35
Morrison
. At Fourth
S. & H. Stamps Given