THE GBEGON SUNDAY JOURNAL,. PORTLAND, - SUNDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 25, 19X1 9 if J VERBATIM REPORT OF JOINT DEBATE BETWEEN WEST AND BOOTH I . -. : r- : : -J booth telus how timber LAND HOLDINGS ACQUIRED (Continued From Preceding Page.) discredited In all. If I prove two ol them false, then the evidence against him multiplies, and so on thruga the case. Tell' of His Beginning. "Where did we commence with this little iKftch of tlmtoer? 'The record is here, and I want to say that the proof of every sentence that 1 shall utter is here in docu ments that I i ill not have time to i Iii it , thiu tViIno hmuAira HIIUW bin 'ti, nu w vi . SThat little patch of timber was pur. chased by people other than ourselves. We got 1- by the usHignment of con tacts. We liave . worked it ten years and ther is seven years yet there to cut. That was the beginning of our operations. It is the sworn testimony of myself in the Three-ten rate case before the Interstate Commerce Cora rqtssion and in the records given here 1 this city in the Innocent Purchas ers' bill, and if Mr. West did not know it. it is his own fault; it is a public record and I believe ha did know It. "Hut he charges, secondly, that the fortunes of the Booth-Kelly Lumber company were founded on the pur chase of a tract of timber of about 17,000 acres." (The speaker her produced a- map, to which he referred). Tails How X.aia Were Bought. Mr. Uooth: "Tho yellow here repre sents that timber. The green was Umber that we did not own. This is the railroad to which he refers, that he says was built under connivance With the railroad officials. This is tr.iia-.r, rlndicatine) and here is where our mill is situated. Here are the oth er mills. He says we owned all the timber,' that others could not operate xnd there has been nothing else doing ther in that country. T.ltpn mfin. This is all timber belt, except the little valley where the railroad runs. Did we connive with the Oregon officials, who were afterwards discharged? "Here is the fact. The lands were b'ought of the vice-president of the Oregon & California failroad, and also "of the Southern Pacific company. In conjunction with C. P. Huntington, Its president. The contracts are here, if you want to read them.s We bought It, ha says, never paying a dollar of the principal, and pnly the interest after the timbe was cut. Out of that, and from that we have taid to the laboring men of Oregon $10,000, 000, operated for 10 years, and there Is 10 years yet to cut. - "We never had any interest in that road, except we gave the right of way for it and the ties. We never had a secret ' rate, and, as a railroad com missioner, he knew that, or could have known it. We never iiad the contract delivered to us until simul taneously with it we had to agree to opurate and to ship carlonds of timber over that road the firct year. - Declares Statement raise. "Does anyqpdy else there operate? Let's see. He says not. But there re nine mills on that road other than ours. In every sentence tnat no ut tered, whether as to connivance with Oregon officials, whether as to con struction of the road, or secret rates, j or the payment of that, he falsified, and could have known it if he desired; and had he been a man, he would have known it. "And, furthermore, since the facts are) as 1 state, I offer to pay his way, or any man who desires to go in this audience, to Bee whether this limber is all cut, and what the facts are. Every dollar of it was paid within a little nvnr f i iu vonra hv t Vi miirtf-lp. Ing of the premises, and every state ment ii.at he uttered in reference to it in absolutely false. (Appld.i-.se.) "He says that I was tn coni ivance perhaps that is not the direct state ment; I leave it to you to jud,re that I was In connivance politically with the men. Senator Mitchell, Senator Fulton and others, .hat enabled us to buy these lands; and that J was in the legislature at the time. X.ands Owned Previously. "These lands were purchased some years nearly two years after we had commenced operations, and then they were purchased two years before I was in the legislature, two years before Senator Mitchelr was elected, and four years before Senator Fulton was elected. Did he state a truth? I leav It to you. And if he did not state it tn 'these cases, is it credible to believe that he stated it in any? "He says something about school lands. There were no school lands vacant when we purchased this. We got the school sections In that terri tory on that map from Governor Bliss of Michigan. "He says that we were active in cripping. Let me tell you this1 That the lands that I have shown you were near the railroad; they were the frontage, and the even sections there had been taken. Why don't he tell you what he might have known, that more than four fifths of all the la-ids that either company that I represented or was ever associated with ever had the title to four fifths of them had passed from the government when was a boy 6 or 8 years old. He could have as well said that I was In league with the Almighty to make Adam that he might have gone down to this gen eration that I might get these lands (Applause" and cheers.) Titles Wars Adjudicated. "He said that I had my brother ap pointed to -the land office, that these V1MTa otiIa-V.. V. .1 ml. viiuib iniKub itvt uinc x nejr werQ ac quired before my brother was in the land office: and if he is a man unfit for this position, why did Governor West appoint him, at his own solici tation, as a member of the State Ag ricultural society? "He said furthermore about these lands that we had gotten in connlv nc wun me government, that the . officials pr with politicians in the Klamath jtndian reservation, that we naa roDoeq tne children. Listen to me. "e .cities to those lands, extending from Eugene to Idaho, passed from the government m 1XS4, under a Demo- crauc president, by the rebiit of Democrat. ex-Mayor Pond of San Fran cisco, and the president of a large banking concern, and the titles to those tanas were aajuaicated by the sunr.m court of the United States. Could there have been any connivance? "But listen to this: When we bought them, 111,383 acres lyjng within the Klamath Indian "reservation was In litigation. Wa made The company who owned them was to crry tnis enrougn tne supreme court whera It was their lodged. Thev' im The company won, and then it was that th United States government had lands allotted to Indians; 21,000 acres pi intra urn oeionged. not to the gov vtuiuvm, uui io mis roaa company wntuusa uui in last. "Wast did I do then? I went to the government to ask them what they desired us to do, and they said by act of congress I have it here before me on this table and we ask you all to sea it mat the secretary of the interior Kelly? be authorized and Instructed to clas-' "The company paid purchase price sify these lands and ascertain at What of land to government and all fee and price in cash we would sell them or expenses upon final proof. In July, upon what basis wa would exchange 1902, following the final proofs in them for other lands. They were ex- May previous, each of the applicants amined an classified, and here is what executed and delivered deeds for the occurred. iand to the company or to R. A. Booth "A representative of the government and each received-from the company and a representative of our company jioo. went over the land. We classified "The Edward Jourdtfn deed ' was them into 16 different classes. We dated July 22, 1902, but was not re went then to the representative men corded until September 6, 1907. in Klamath county, asking thm to, "Remember that during that time appraise them, and they were appraised there were land fraud investigations, by eight different men, including mer-I Deeds Hot Recorded. wains a.uu uaiikfcerg ana me &esor, ( and then we made this proposition to the government: I will only read part of it but I will leave it here for you ajj , 'The lands of this comoanv there- in whereto its title is settled by the aforesaid decision of the supreme court, comprise about 11,000 acres of odd numbered sections. To determine a fair and proper price therefor as of present time the company recently C4 used the land to be examined, tract tract,' and so on, and made a re. ! rt. which fnlinwK hr it .b... ! by pori, wnicn rouows nere. it snows a total acreage of 11,383; an average val- horUr before this suit was cora uatlon bv the eieht Deoule of Klamath menced, Stephen and Alice La Raut county of $8 11 nff, 1- ",-,. t- , Offered to Sell or Exchange. But we said to the government I " ""6' cou mi'o an oui ine i mue is cupping oy rapidly Instead ; of asking them $8.11 we said we were willing to take $7.50, or this and I ask you to hear it: 'Or we will ex change them for an equal area of equal value, and if we cannot deter mine this by our representatives we will do it by any sort of a board se lected In any manner that is fair.' They sought to exchange lands' with us rather than to -pay the cash, and that we did. We offered to exchange these lands for others within the reserva tion, and for a lesser sum. "These appraisements, men and wo men, did not include the two story white houses, many of them, that were on those premises, and owned by the Indians; they Included none of the Im provements; we excluded them alto gether, and then We said to the gov ernment, 'We will take 87,000 acres." And what occufred? When this agree ment was made 1 went to the interior department. Mr. Hitchcock was the secretary and I was under indictment. Is there anybody here that thinks he gave me the best of the trade, or that I could impose upon him? Listen to what happened. Commissioner Was Gratified. "When the trade was agreed to, at his suggestion the bill that authorized this was to be written in his pres ence, approved by him before it was ever introduced. It was Introduced, referred to the Interior department, by them to Mr. Leupp, commissioner of Indian affairs, by him recommend ed, recommended by Mr. Hitchcock, secretary of the interior, and passed, and then it was after it was all done, that I have frbm them, this letter. This is from the commissioner of laud affairs, Mr. Leupp: 'I am gratified, also, as I always am wnen tne tracKs can be cleared of accumulated obstacles to the prog ress of another Indian tribe; and I think that the way this matter was settled will help the Klamaths to get their minds into a better frame with regard to their local " industries. I am sure that it could not have been so satisfactorily arranged if your com pany had not shown a broad spirit in dealing with the situation and meet ing 'the department half way in the measure for adjustment.' (Applause). That Is how we sold the land. Is there a word of truth in what he said? Absolutely none. These were matters of public record that any man might have known and that I believe he did know. But with the same spirit that prompted him not to promote justice but to thwart it, he made that statement, when the public records contradict him. t "He said the remainder of it, five hundred thousand acres, or four hund red, or whatever it was, we sold to widows, and so on, by a lottery scheme. Transferred to Minneapolis Man, "Listen here. We sold that land I have all of these documents here and I can present them to you en tirely we sold all of those lands to Harry Hunter,, of Minneapolis, and one man, or two, who were associated with him. The contract was written in this city by Arthur L, Veazie, our attorney. Every payment that was made was covered by a receipt in his office, and I authorize him now and would have had him here had he been in town and release any con fldential relations that he may give to you the facts just as they are "The contract was carried out pre cisely, except where we granted a lit tie extension, and I have here the record from our bookkeeper of every payment that was made. Mr. Hunter in his company took other men in part ners, in a partnership, so he tells me. The record shows that that company transferred them, to a corporation formed in Arizona by the name of the Oregon Military Grant Road company, and they wen to a Kansas City con cern, the Oregon Valley Land company "They put them on the market and sold them. We never had a cent in terest beyond that contract. Mr. West could have known it if he had searched the records, either at Portland or at Lakeview and the counties through which they extended. If he did not. he is at fault, and if the facts I state in this, and in relation to other things, are true, he owes it to the people of Oregon to apologize, and if he is a man, he "will apologize, to me. (Applause and cheers). Sanies Tax Dodger Charge. "He says that I am a tax dodger. Here are what the facts are: First as to the legislative proceedings. There was a bill introduced by a gentleman from Multnomah making a special act to assess timber land. They say that' I killed it. My vote with others did, and 1 have no apology to offer for it, because I stand here, as a fair minded man, to say that the timber Is bearing its just proportion. "Here is what has transpired. Since our company was organized we have paid over $304,000 into the treasury of Lane county as taxes. And listen here. Since all of our lands were ac quired and without the acquisition of another acre our taxes have in creased under the present law seven fold. Here is the statement (exhibit ing paper). I offer It to you all. "And as to the lands on the other side of the mountains, we paid when we got them $5000 taxes; now we pay $1500, with only about a seventh of the land left. Am. I a tax dodger? That is the record. Our books were open to our assessor, and there has never been any complaint. "Listen thn, just to this last state- Governor West Masterly Presentation Brings (Continued From Preceding Page.) to comply with the request of Mr. "The four La Raut deeds were not recorded but were retained until the ''ler i? "l .or u wnen me mnu xia.ua iiivesugaiious uuu " m w.C6uu ve ress, when they were returned to the makers and destroyed. The La Kauts made other deeds in 1907. Lucy and Ethel were each paid $25 upon execu tion of -the latter deeds. Three years after executing their second deeds. whfa tpy wer,e abut to to Canada, nd agents ef the government were making inquiry about their entries, and were each paid $50 by the company. "The applicants and patentees never Baw th entered y them except when Brumbaugh took them to the ian(j before tha entries wars made They never made any effort to dispose of them, never Inquired the value there of or the amount of timber thereon or took any Interest whatever therein; never Inquired as to the expense of the entries or whether taxes were being paid thereon, notwithstanding they were always In poor circumstances, "The books of the company show that it assumed control and ownership of these lands Immediately after proofs, and charged itself with all ex penses relating to these lands, begin ning with its cruise thereon up to the present, including taxes. - Big Acreage Included. "The stumpage account contained somewhere close to 150,000 acres.' The total of $301.03 above, made up of small items of expense upon said claims, " designated 'Brumbaugh Land Claims,' was nowhere charged to the Individuals but was carried into the stumpage account under the general item 'Cruising.' "Now the cruising of the company on those claims shows that they 'aver aged, the five claims I have mentioned, about 6,750,000 feet to the quarter sec tion; the crutsings of the government show that they average 8.530,000 feet. Now taking the two together they would average 7,500,000 feet. Figuring the stumpage at only 50 cents on the ground, these claims were worth $3750 apiece; yet the poor relations were obliged to turn them over to Che Booth-Kelly Lumber company for $100 apiece. (Applause.) "Now It Is said in the brief that, 'It Is believed a proper construction of the facts as shown by the circumstances and the acts of the parties renders the pretended explanations of the defend ants and entrymen absolutely absurd and untenable, and unerringly points to the truth of the allegations in com plainant's bill of complaint, and fully justifies and demands a cancellation of all' the patents Involved In the suit.' "Now, before the claims in contro versy were filed upon, the Booth-Kelly Lumber company had the lands cruised. together with other lands in the vicin ity, and was then and had been for a year prior thereto engaged in purchas ing timber lands In that vicinity." Paid $80O Each. "Title was immediately taken to the Dunbar, Roche, Brumbaugh and Jordan claims. Dunbar and Roche were employes in the Booth-Kelly Lumber company. They filed on lands in the same locality and were paid $100 apiece at the same time. But later on when the government investi gations were on and the Booth-Kelly Lumber company needed the testimony of Mr. Dunbar and Mr. Roche to square accounts with government, they were given about $800 more apiece. That was a number of years afterwards. "That Alice and Stephen LaRaut entered the land in behalf of the de fendant company through an arrange ment with R. A- Booth is shown by the fact that the matter was the sub ject of family conversation, as related by tha witness, Mrs. Applestone, 'she was a daughter of one of the LaRauts, Mrs. LaRaut,' which occurred about the time the entries were made, or immediately prior thereto. These con versations gave the amount to be re ceived by the entrymen as $100 each, for the services in making the entry on behalf of the company. The books of the company show that these par ties did,, subsequently, actually receive the sum of $100 within a few weeks after they had made proof, and there upon deeds conveying the absolute title to the company were made. Now In reference to this Jordan claim of which I speak, the United States at torney said in arguing the case: To submit argument to show that the Jor dan entry was fraudulent would be like arguing that it is day .when the sun la shining.' "The land embraced in th$ several entries would not in such case be car ried into the general invoice account of land owned by the company, but would be kept separately In the account of each individual. Knrsery Bhyma Quoted, L 'V Both had done as e saye he has done, loaned these people $100, when these land frauds came on as stated in thts government attorney's brief, without a consciousness of ment, but I must close, for my tirmj is up, though I am not ha-if through with the first charges that he made. I will attend to them a little later as rapidly as I can. "Now as to political manipulation. I never received a favor of the com missioner of the general land office, or any senator or any congressman; and hear me when I tell - you that I have never asked it, never wrote a letter that effected any title to a single acre of our land. "Why did not Mr. West tell you that all the lands, more than a mil lion acres that we have handled, more than 99 per cent of it more than 95 per cent of it had the title initiated before our company was organized? I speak from the records. "And furthermore, men, never has there been yet actual disposition and final disposition of an acre that we own; not an acre; and there never has been attacked more than five claims, less than one-tenth of one per cent of the lands that we have handled. So you sea that wa go up in the Royal Baking Powder's class, our government notwithstanding.'' (Applause.) Bares: Details of wrongdoing, those deeds would nn I pave peeo destroyed in December, 1804. or fn January, 1905, when the land fraud prosecutions were arising in Oregon. It reminds me of a little nursery rhyme which I heard the othe? day, which says: (Laughter and applause.) " 'There was man in our town Who saw a splendid prize In grabbing deeds -to timber claims. For he was wondrous wise; But when he found the tale was out. With all hid might and main. He said the deeds were not his own And tore them up again.' "He says in this brief: 'If it wert true, as stated by Mr. Booth, that these people were taking up lands for their own use and benefit and not for him, if it were true that Robert Booth was merely attempting to assist his relatives, there was no necessity of paying them each $100 after the en tries were perfected. It could not well be that the property of each was identical, and in order to relieve the same that each should have exactly the same sum that was paid Jordan, to Brumbaugh, to Roche and to Dun bar.' "Now. my friends, I want you to understand the situation. (The speak er here produced a map, to which ha referred). "There were railroad grants in that section of the country. For a certain distance on each side of the railroad the railroad company was given the odd sections to aid in the construction ot the Oregon & California railroad. Claims Are Sought. "Now, when Mr. Booth became en gaged in the lumbering business and he began to cut timber that went with a little sawmill that he had leased from Jones & Cook, or whoever It was, he ran onto these wonderful claims that were owned by the railroad company, and they immediately set about to se cure title to some of them at a low price, which they were able to de- through friendly officials. "That left, you see, in between thes odd sections, which are marked in red, the even sections which were eithel vacanf or had previously been taken by entrymen. Now after acquiring titl It wag their aim to consolidate their holdings and acquire title to these even sections. That is why they were tak ing advantage of the situation after they had secured from the railroad company a branch line into the Wend ling mill. "The only railroad construction that we enjoyed in this state of about 20 years was the. few miles that were built between Springfield and Eugene, from Eugene to Springfield, to the Booth-Kelly mill, and the branch lin up to Wendling, to accommodate the Booth-KeHy people. Now they had the only mill ,n that district, and those who had timber in there were obliged to sell to the Booth-Kelly people at a mere pittance; and then they eet about to gather these other claims, the LaRaut claims and the Jordan and Brumbaugh and Roche, and others, were filed over beyond the Cottage Grover somewhere, as I remember it. "Mr. Booth, In order to save those lands, went on the witness stand and testified that those people had taken them for their Own use and benefit, and that either he or the company was merely loaning them the money. I want t6 read you just a little testi mony here from som of this. I want tG read you what Judge Bean said. You know Judge R. S. Bean, the Judge of the federal court, I want to read what he said about the Dunbar claim. Manner Xiooked Suspicious. "He says: 'The fact that the money was advanced by the company and the manner in which the books were kept, as well as the circumstances surround ing the entry, were suspicious, and standing alone tends strongly to sup port the government s contention. But with the explanation given by the wit nesses they are not sufficient to over come the respect due to the patents or the presumption which attended their Issuance. That he took the land not for his own use and benefit but for the defendant company. His testimony in this respect is confirmed by the entries In the books and the circum stances attending these entries.' "In other words. Judge Bean held that the Jordan entry was1 bogus, and that the statements made by the com pany that he was taking the claim for hi3 own use and benefit were falsa. (Applause). "Mr. Jordan was one of those labor ing men working for the Booth-Kelly Lumber company, one of the 'labor ing men about whom Mr. Booth is so solicitious, especially at thi3 time when he is running for the senate. (Laughter and applause). "Now listen. Jordan went on the witness stand and testified that he was asked by a representative of the Booth-Kelly company to take this claim and they agreed to pay him $100, and the Booth-Kelly Lumber company went to the land office where John Henry Booth, a brother of R. A Booth, was receiver, and Mr. Bridges was register, went there and tho Rnmh. Kelly Lumber company furnished the money to pay the necessary fees. Witness Gives Testimony. Edward Jordan was called as a wit ness in suppti-t of his application to purchase the lot for which he applied. Now the testimony was taken before Mr. Booth, remember, as receiver, and before Mr. Bridges; and here is what they asked him. Now remember he was sent there by the Booth-Kelly peo ple. The bookkeeper of the Booth Kelly people carried the check that was to pay for the claim, and he sat down in front of Jonn Henry Booth, who was secretary of the company think now secretary of the Booth Kelly Lumber company, aid he was asked this question: " 'Have you sold or transferred ycur claim to this land since making your Biaiemuiii. or nave you directly or indirectly made any agreement or contract, in any way or manner, with any person whomsoever, by which the title which you may acquire from the government or the United States may inure, in whule or in part, to the bene fit of any person except yourself? "He says. T have not "'Do you make this entry In. good iaitn ior me appropriation of the land exclusively to your own use anrl not for the use or benefit of any other person "Answer: " T do.' " 'Has any other person than nnr self, or has any firm, corporation, or association any interest iif tha entry you are now maKinj, or in the land, or J X 1 . - i . . . .. iu iue uinoer mereonr "Now just think. Thera he was. sit. ting before J. H. Booth, the receiver of the land office, the secretary of the Booth-Kelly Lumber company, and right at that time there waa laid on tho counter by the bookkeeper of tha Booth-Kelly Lumber company a chock I ........ 1 1 . L- - . loeucu me xjuuLn-tveuy people In I favor of the land office to pay this I Booth's Timber Land Deals Cheers From Great Atjdience entry, and the contract was all made. They were bringing that poor devil in there to commit perjury for the paltry sum of $100 in order that they might take his claim, which cruised millions and was worth five or six thousand dollars." (Applause). West All Hig-ni. A voice: "What's the matter with West?" Another voice: He's all right." Governor West: "Now, Mrs. LaRaut had a daughter by tho name of Apple stone. She went on the witness stand and they asked her, 'Where were you living in 1902 and prior thereto, In 1901 T She said, 'In 1981 I was living in Portland, I think. Part of the time with my mother and part of the tim ia Portland.' ' "Where was your mother living at that tim?' " 'At Saginaw, Oregon. " 'Do you remember being up at your mother's home in the spring of 1902 and summer?' '"Yes. sir.' " To you know anything about the entry of some timber land there by your mother? '"Yes, sir " 'And the other members of tha family?' '"Yes, sir, I do.' " 'Just state now what you know about that, and what information you have about It.' " "Well, at tha time I was there they had come off from their claims.' " 'You mean they had been out to visit their claims?' " "Yes. sir, they had been out to sea the land?" " "Well, who had been to se the londr " "My mother and step-father had been," " ' Who else? " 'And Ethel. That is, I know that, because they were at the house there and I knew they had taken up a tim ber claim.' Talked With Mother. " Now, did you have any conversa tion, dr was there any conversation conducted and carried on in the fam ily there which you heard in relation to these timber claims?' " 'Yes.' '"What did they say about tha Um ber claims how they happened to take them up, and all about it?' " T talked to my mother about it especially, and she told mo that she had taken up a claim and had taken it up for Mr. Booth." (Laughter and applause.) " "What Mr. Booth? A voice: "How is that, Mr. Booth?" Governor West: "Just a minute. What Mr. Booth T " 'Robert Booth.' 'How did she sa7 she com to take it tip for Robert Booth T f " I do not remember just tho words.' "Go ahead now and state the con versation that decurred there without being asked any questions.' " "Well, we had talked about It so many times, at different dates, and she said that she had taken up a claim for Robert, and they were to .be paid a hundred dollars that is, mamma was to be paid a hundred dollars ior her claim.' 'Now Just remember What this man Jordan was up against. (Laughter). Jordan was working up there for a small wage and Mr. Kelly called him up over the telephone. " "What did Mr. Kelly ay to you over the phone?' " 'He asked me If I wanted to take up a timber claim for him, and I told him yes.' (Applauso.) "What did he say no wouia 'ou- ... . w.. That he would give ma Hun dred dollars.' (Laughter.) What else was he to do besides pay you the $100?' He was to pay ior tne i"" pay my expenses. " "And when you gi i xwocum s what happened?" "Now, listen to this: " Wre went in there to prove up. " "Who went in?" " "Us three fellows Mrs. Roche, Mr. Brumbaugh and myself. l oo noi know whether that was tne time ma Mr. Booth said, 'Stand back awhile, the Inspector was there.' (Applause and cheers.) "Listen, listen. You are taxing up th time here. (Further applause and cheers, with hisses.) "'How long, did you stand Dacsr " Half an hour, or such a matter. T.a.ii-hter We went back of the main office and sat in the window there for a half of an hour or such a time, and he called for us.' " "Who called for you?' " 'Mr. Booth " 'What Booth was thatf " 'Mr. J. H. Booth.' " "Who furnished the funds at the time you proved up who furnished the money?' "The Booth-Kelly Lvfanber com- Danv.' " 'Who carried the money there who had it there?' " 'Mr. Roche, he carried a check That was the bookkeeper of the Booth- Kellv company.' " "Who paid that check over to the officers of the land office for your land?' Check Was Given Her. 'I gave that over myself. He gave me the check when we got to the land office.' (Laughter.) " 'Do you remember what kind of a check that was? " 'The Booth-Kelly Lumber com Dany's check, is all that I know.' (Laughter and applause.) "Now. these claims were known as the Brumbaugh claims, up the Brum baugh creek. Brumbaugh was an old pioneer that the creek was probably named for; and be had a son working for the Booth-K.elly people, doing a lit tle cruising, carrying compass, or chain, or something in the cruising outfit, and he had been up there when they cruised these claims, because he knew they wanted It; they were using him as a guide, and they wanted him to file on one for them. So Daniel H. Brumbaugh tells his story. " 'You took up a timber claim about the same time as these claims involved in this suit In this same locality?" " 'Yes, sir.' " "Where was your claim. In relation to the Jordan claim? "'Well, mine was In 34, townships 21 and 22, and his is in section 2, town ship 22. 1, I think." " "Was your claim anywhere near the Dunbar claim?" " 'Yes; it joined it.' " 'State the circumstances under which you took up your claim and with whom you negotiated? " There is not very much to tell. I can tell It in a very few words He asked ma whether I would take up a timber claim, and I told him I would." (Laughter.) "Who diar " 'He Bald on Brumbaugh cheek.' " 'And what else did he say as to what he would do .If you did?" ., " 'He told me he would furnish the money.' " 'What else? Would FurniMb. Expanses. A. "And pay my expenses." Q. "Anything else?" A. "And give me on hundred dol lars." (Laughter and applause.) "Now I want you to remember that it was either Jordan or Brumbaugh that testified in there that when they cave them th 3100. thev held out ' SXK fin o r n . fr rki a taf rtr snulAlhlnir that they sold to him, so he only got $65 n cash." (Laughter.) A voice: "He will make a great senator." (Cries of "'put him out.") Another voice: "How about Bliss, the corrupt governor of Michigan." Governor West: "Now, my friends, I just want to read you what Federal Judge Morrow and Ross and Gilbert say about these claims. " 'The deed from Jordai was not recorded until September 6, 1907. The La Raut deeds were never re corded, but in the latter part of 1904 and early in 1905, at about the time of the investigation by the govern ment of land frauds in Oregon, those deeds were returned to the makers and destroyed. Now Ethel and Lucy La Raut made other deeds in 1907, at which time they were each paid $25. On February 3, 1910, Stephen La Raut and his wife made a ded of their lands to the company, and were each paid $50.' "Now the court says: The expenses of the instrument in going to Rose burg, lodging there and returning, the recording fees and the publication no tices were not entered la these indi vidual accounts, but Were entered In the books of the company under the heading, K"?Brumbaugh Land Claims," and were carried into the stumpage kecount under the item, "Cruising." They were selected for the company, and now after the court recites this and spaaks of Mr. Booth's testimony, it says: Patents Are Set Aside. "These facts and circumstances are sufficient to meet the requirement of the rule that in a suit to set aside a patent the testimony with which it is done must be clear, unequivocal and convincing." That is what the court said, and they set the patents aside. (Applause.) "Now, my friends, Mr. Booth was a public official at that time. He was a senator, the same time that George E. Chamberlain was governor of the- state. T'ljey were both public officials, both charged with a sacred duty. There was a school und to conserve and protect. - "Now you remember I mentioned Roche and Dunbar, two gentlemen who were working for the Booth Kelly Lumber company. Mr. Roche and Mr. Dunbar went up there and filed on claims and received a hun dred dollars. Up in that locality per haps they run out of people to file, the Kellys and Roches and Dunbars had ail taken up claims for the com pany, and they wanted to secure title through the state, some state base that they might obtain. "Now in each township sections 16 and 36 belonged to the school children of this state, and if for any reason they are lost to the state, the state can select other lands in lieu of them. That list becomes a basis for other selections. Now if those sec tions were mineral in character, why, they would go back to the govern ment and the state would lose th;m, and they could be used as a basis for selection. "My friend, T. T. Geer, who Is out telling the people why Chamberlain should not be elected,- was governor of the state, and he had a friend there In the land office by the name of O'Dell who listed a lot of bogus deeds and who collected thousands and thousands of dollars from the people of this state and they got nothing in return. ' Cousin Claim Agent. "Mr. Geer's cousin was state land agent and it was his duty to furnish Information as to this base, but when people came thera he could not give them the information but sent Jhem to General O'Dell, who supplied it. Now down came the Kellys to have some land selected. Here is an indemnity list. They came into the land office and they wanted to select some land, all of section 14, 21 south, 1 west, 640 acres, and they wanted to get 240 acres in section 4, 9, 21 south; that is up in this territory (indicating on map). Now this is the way they proceeded: "They came into the land office, the Booth-Kelly people came down there, or sent their representative down there with the money, or mailed it down; it got to General O'Dell; and they as signed as base for these selections cer tain lands over here, section 26, 11 south, 85 east, and section 36, 10 south, 31 east. That is over In eastern Ore gon. These lands were supposed to be . mineral in character, and they were assigned to the federal government and the state authorities alleged that they were mineral in character and that they were going to surrender them to the federal government in order that these lands might be selected for the Booth-Kelly Lumber company. Now under the laws of the state you can't purchase to exceed 320 ares of land; so it is necessary for timber operators to go out and secure someone to make application for the land and turn it over to them. That is the way the deeds were secured by fraud; and that is the way the Booth-Kelly Lumber company proceeded. They wanted to file on these applications. "Now Mr. Dunbar was very much In evidence. Mr. Dunbar was the clerk who filled out the papers and they sent them down to the land office, three applications, one signed by Dunbar, one by Bertha L. Kelly and one by George H. Kelly. It is the Dunbar claim I am particularly interested in at this time. He makes affidavit as follows: Affidavit Is Made. " 'I, H. H. Dunbar, being duly sworn say that I am over 18 years of age and that I am a citizen of the United States; that the proposed purchase is for my own benefit and not for the purpose of speculation; that I have made no contract or agreement, ex pressed or Implied, for the sale or dis position of the land applied for, in case I am permitted to purchase the same, and that there is no valid . adverse claim thereto.' "Now that application was filed in that qffide on December 18. It took a little time to go to the land office, and it came back and it reached the land office on January 4. and the papers were fixed out, prepared and sent to tha Roseburg office, or sent to Eugene, and on January 8, just after lt got tbere, Mr. Dunbar assigns those school lands to Booth-Kelly Lumber company; (Continued on Page Ten.) I F. - BOOTH IN CLOSING SPEECH ENTERS EMPHATIC 0 EN.IALS (Continued From Preceding Page.) Oregon. Here is the man that was a party to it. (Applause). "August 10 Judge Gilbert ordered not less Chan 500 names be drawn, from nine; of the 33 counties. The same day Bladen wrote to Bush that Gilbert ordered not less than 700 names drawn from nearby counties, but ex cluding Clatsop, the home of Senator b ulton. August 11 Sladen notified Bush that Gilbert set August 17 as the day for filling the box. The record shows that Judge Gilbert either intentionally or negligently aid ed the government detectives in giv ing me jury do a one siaea poimcai bias. He took an 'active part in many matters connected with the filling and prefeervins of the land fraud box, tilled August 17, 1905. He excluded counties where some of the more prom inent defendants were best known. He sent a list to a partisan Democrat in Columbia county for revision and sug gestion; he extended the time for fill ing the box-, thus giving the detectives more time to select the convlctors." A Voice: How about all that tliat was done ior a $100?" Jordan Claim Discussed.. Mr. Booth: "Just wait a minute. Now the claim as to the hundred dollars. Here is the evidence. Every man who has read it, and I assume that the governor has A Voice: "Read it." Mr. Booth: "This is the Jordan claim, mind, knows that my name is only mentioned in that case once.' A Voice: "That's enough." Mr. Booth: Listen. l hat was when Jordan said 1 had nothing to do with it; I never spoke to him about it." (Applause). A Voice: "Why didn't you say that in Albany Tr Mr. Booth: "I wish you would not applaud and just waste the time- Wrhy didn't I refer to that in the Albany speech? For this reason: Whatever blame could possibly be at tached to anyone I wanted to take. Not George Kelly, but John Kelly was land man of our company, and not I He nurchased that claim and here is what happened. His es- dence directly contradicts Jordan Believe whichever you please, but lis ten to this. We have in our posses sion two letters from Jordan written years after the claim was bought, that V&e government had offered him moni for a story that would convict us, and he eaid this." A Voice: "Read the letter." Mr. Booth: "'If you don't come through with the money I will ac cept the government's money.' " (Ap plause and hisses). That is the kind of a frame up that was put up here. "Now, men and women, it makes no difference " to me whether or not you want to believe this. There is the record, every word of It." A Voice: "Read it." Mr. Booth: "And my name is not mentioned in the Jordan claim save when he said that I had nothing to do with it." (Applause). A voice: "Good." Mills Thera Before Kallroad. Mr. Booth: "You had as well con- vict anvbodv Msa in th audience: vou had as well convict the men who Rra trying to convict me; but here is the thing that he charges against us par ticularly now. I' have referred to those charges. Here is w?iat he says:J 'That by connivance with tha railroad company we caused them to build a road into the territory where there had been no mills.' "The very spot on which our mill now stands and was then built was occupied by a sawmill, and there were two others in the same neighborhood. That is the fact, and I will pay the way of anyboy who wants to go and see whether that is' true. "He said no one else could ship, that we had shut up the resources. We don't own a twentienth of the timber. and there are nine mills thera oper ating. Now do yu believe the state ment of a man wtio says a thing like that?" (Mixed cries of "Yes" and "No.") Mr. Booth: "Do you believe tha statement?" . (Continued qrie.s of "Yes" and "No.") Mr. Booth: '"There is no use for me to talk if I can't get a fair hearing. (Laughter and-applause.) But this is true. I realize very" well from what has been aid from the platform and from you, that you are not here with open minds to hear What the facts are. A Volcfc: "Sure -we are." (Hisses and applause.) Mr. Booth: "But you are here with your minds already made up. But 1 want to say to you this: That every statement save that of the Jordan claim, which has no relation to me, is disproven by the facts or contradicted by me, and I defy any man anywhere, and ail comers, to disprove it. But whether you believe lt or not is up to you. But I want to tell you this: That unless I am mistaken there are men in the state of Oregon enough who do not come with this spirit to say that the Democratic RoyaU Family of Oregon shall not longer fill tha offices of this state. (Cries of "Hurrah for Booth!" Applause and cheers.) Not One New pfo vision. Now a word more. Just a word more. There is an inference in what the gov ernor says that the provisions in the land grants were known by every woman and child in Oregon. Let's see what the facts are that are public in this city. Congress passed a bill that all those who had acted in good faTTh in the purchase of railroad lands might repurchase them from the gov ernment. While the case was at issue in this city the evidence was taken and all of the officers of our company and those who previously had been officers, swore, to the facts as to the purchase, not ofl this particular tract of land but every acre, dtwn to the laet40 that we owned, and every one of them swore that they did not know that pro vision, and it goes without saying that if it had been known, if it had been a matter of record, that anyone might h4j.ve seen, then, fellow !zens, the lands would have never been sold. But in 1SS3, over 30 years ago, I pur chased lands from that same grant to start a sawmill, and hundred's of people in Oregon have purchased It since. What was decided by the highest court of the country ? That we had acted in good faith and therefore we purchased the lands again. That is what the record shows. "We connived! How? How did i connive about that railroad? We bound ourselves to give the ties and the right-of-way if they would build Into the forest, but we otouid not buy tha timber and it is a .matter of record. until we signed a contract to do that and shipped 2500 carloads of lumber the first year, and to continue it, 2Teve Bad Secret Rita. "We connived! Why? Apparently to get the railroad companyto change their minds, if the government's state ment is true, to again develop Oregon by helping extenLthe roads into the forest and to sent out- ol this state timber enough so that the amount that we have broucht-into the state is many times more tiian during tha same time has been tmtributed by tha ; national governmetfft to this state. Does that look like we u ire connivers to rob the people of theij! iblrthrlght? Wher- would the people tiave been who have- worked in our m? (Cries of "Ah and finnlaiiBH ;. . o country to do inlhjrslate shipment Jrv- this state, and , !Fice we commenced . hundreds of otUej mills have come,; until millions of dollars are coming; here from the development that mever; wuuiu nave come- HV ior m; iiciiiwiin; that we made, ; upon w-hich were; granted the $3.iqj'rate to -San Fran-; lisco bay sand the ''i 0 cent rate east. - u "It was not mode for us. It was made for all shippers, was an op:tt rate, and we nevesr have hart a Secret rate, and that cnn.pe ascertained from; the records of the interstate eommereo commission, wherr I and other peop!e: or uregoji testing j in aerenee oi ine . 1 1 nuni ruin unn , i inr.H tm.lv. il was through out! efforts that tlwy w erases tended further east, ana on, t V i . . i t . . . . ii -: L ' il,.vAlnm,j4 ' filiv busfness and othorpeople in the coun fc.J - IIJi'.' ' M , A , ' V . . i. h condition now.' - i nree-iourins. .over half, of the mills'' aro closed; two of ours are shut dow&, the third is about to be. Why? Because " A unfri. t I r t nrln t In lt ' ' T tm 4u - - .......... . V f, before election. (Laughter and ap plause). Canadian J tills Blamed. lion, jusi aner , -leuuun, my leuow: just after the ejktlon that put tha 1 lmn(ra ru in r ' - That la a7 ti o r happened. The i-jlls closed here be- ra hh mi n in it unsina a r a p nninr. That is why tHSy are not running here; that men who come from Cana da preside over tffir. destinies and fa vor their brethren there instead ' of their brethren here. The question Is to be answered fry soon. Whatever Is your verdict ifiust be my verdict. kbut it will not Be answered by the spirit of the menwho will not hear a statement or kiviT credance to a r- ort. -i "MnW Dfl t I 1 1 ll t A HMk-.l-.. .1 ..tnl.ln this last word." ,'4 A voice. "TellAis about the S(tiool f h lid rr sn fund." fe Mr. Boojh: "ai me." . right, theii; hear Voices: "Tell hs about the school lands." ;n Mr. uooth: "Lt me tell you about Judge Uilbert Ut; then I will tall Vf dVt.llt i . A 4r Ilk. J.oIj, tWUUb 1 L. WUUBfcB till US' I L SB U kI W iuu was reimerea-i.on ll)l supposition. wmcn every man sas a rignt to Delteve or not, as you UKufi mat tne La Kauts, wnom you see, tfcat Mr. Dunbar, who wui f ,.iji kl air. UHirtia n l - !, who is our rnniager, ana Mr. Jonn Kelly and niyelfi, swor falsely. If you want to believe that, believe' it" A voice: "Sigre." (Applause). Mr. uooth: "Tfchere is no evidence io ie contrary, except wiat or one girL is it any fyonder, then, that in tne face of what" he did, that We got aucrt a ueuisitins out, menus, it I uu' yei semeu. s n is on appeal to " Buyieme rauruoi tne united BiatCS aim a uiue lateoyou win near of it. iNow-as to ti4; school lands. W never, nrrver, exploited tna scnooi lanos and Sought but very little. in uia' rrontage of the timber, arid ttlAv TXT rr. on I A ' v - A . . . mencea operating; The same thing is hub wiiu me uven sections. Decause tney were neartwi the railroad and of me most vaiae. a Value of thc-ta Baut Claims. isow as to twe values of the La naut claims, w. purchased the body . . r i .... .j . i-. . -. . i iwtu umie iruni two men. a.iina 1 1...).. . ..... moive w luuriKtn inousanu acred. no claims that Were taken by the La ""o ,iiiiii yuu ainve nea i a were so vaiuaoie, wmie uey bouuht the land irom tne ranrtmji company there for live uuuais mni a quarter, were not wjuucmu wuriKUKhiiig. inu claim on' tne borders nsere worth less. It was a noiamg proposition, and all of me iiiiiiuny h&ev mat or a ciri mm Bays that she h ra iicr mother make certain stateiiu is, not that I had made to her, hi i- iuiiiu irom some other source, tluj mey were going "to do thus and so; ut tne record show tne testimony i uwu, mm trie lan is u.-.,..Sc'-i iu Liie )-a nauiB and mat is t jan nmiH iwjjfuu luniKni, wait a while and see wut the supreme cour wj - ii lasjiue sworn testimony of seven peoples only one contradict 1 r. t LJ . I I . - . Erk . . . , . . . tH V. . uuicve upoui ij, wnaiever you use. tAsppiausej). i The meeting htere ended. Women Would Have TT J 7l sv nana ip ivianagipg . -r . vsnaiaates Are Jtstta to Stat Poi- m . won m tteg-arcr. to Handling of Pris oners. A coterie of rwtland club women Is ... ; !il . . . putting up to candidates for citv and county offices Who have Jurisdiction uvcr j.un-c hhuj prison matters, tne i . . .. - - ? question: "if emoted, are you willing io giaiii a. Bii-!tnriion, non-sectarian body or women wie right of a voice In im umii57uieii:ii wuisivii prisouers. Mrs. josepnindiu. bharp, who is back ol tne movementSi stated yesterday that tne ciuus or ingHcuy are eninusiastic in tneir respooije wnn indorsement of the question.'slt is her idea to hav a woman deputy-sheriff and a branch or the city poftfe under the special -IT Jurisdiction of; a woman. Indorse ments. so far h&Ve been made by th Political .Scienpit club, the Alberta Women s Improvement club, the W C. T. U.. the A3berta Women's For vaarA f 1 1 1 i anrl ILi. r.nlral W 1 T TT Mrs. ssnarp ay otner ciuds are pre paring to laite ;jsp me movement. i-a , . LAND TRADE IS CLOSED One of the latKest rear estate deal recently completed, was the sale of Z acres orchard ifi the Grants Pass Qistnci, owned uy -Mrs. l,. uruetner ... ... . . . . to J. W. ShaffaVd, of Portland, for reported considdatlon of 117,000. kAs"" part payment iif. Bhafford turned ln- hls residence jpj-operty at Fifteenths and Hall streetf. The ojrehard con sists of peachesf pears, apples, all of the standard vajf etles, and in bearing. The sale was rfenle bj. the Stout In-' vestment company. An engine hai been invented which" is driven by the-jvspor of heated mer cury, which is condensed and used re-' peatedly, the hat given off by tha condensation generating steam, which Is used independently. ' f , D