THE OREGON SUNDAY JOURNAU PORTLAND, SUNDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 2$, 1914. THE FUTUR WILL SPEND LE IN BED" EDISO Also He Will Eat Less, 1 Say: s tne wizara 01, .1 w. - r Electricity Human ity Will Llve in Double Shifts Because the World Will Be Too Crowded. , - ' -v "Xv s ' v( -Xv -. , 5 ' t if . ? ? y ' . friz ' y- -T' mr V, "s f i- MAN TTTaV fflW N j " v ' kk'v v ftg..;iMM inif vt " 4 i' V:- J 1 W.'',s Cxi I f A 4 f - x,- -4 1 3 . 1 .1 k ,.iasgja.., - saaal w 'fcCTLaf,r'tfA.'fjT41f -rii'niii m-inf-t-rini-LBiMiii hlumwim m "i "i -if if T ir n ! ' - By Edward Marshall. SAZS E die on to me: "Humanity will have to live in double shifts, by and by, because the ' world will se crowded, and it will have to sleep ltss.' By sleeping less it will enormously increase Its productive power, for sleep is an absurdity, a bad habit. . Zt will have to eat less because the world's population will be so great that its productivenceo will not keep pace with a per capita consumption as great as that of the present time. Sy eating leis it will enormously Increase Its efficiency and happiness, and will do away with poverty. These statements by the great in- vector were drawn out In the course of a long talk occasioned by the I thirty-fifth anniversary of his -Invention of the electric lighting system. That anniversary occurs this month, and It is the anniversary of the be f ginning of an era of peaceful revolu ktlon. In whinh this man has been the leading revolutionist. In a third of a century he has seen I the worlil march marvelously to ward efficiency, and the fact that kmore than any other man he has con tributed to the facilities which have ; helped it to march rapidly makes what he thinks of it especially im iportant. He expects more rapid progress In jjthe future than the paut has ever Utnown; he. will not believe that any feproblera will arise of which "solution his essential to the human advance Vwhlch will not find Its solver. When 1 asked him what had been the principal achievements of inven tors since his own epoch-making f triumph, he sat thoughtfully for k moment. "A good many things have been , done." said lie. "A good many ('.things. Let me sec" , Wears His Years Lightly I had not seen him for a year, and . as he sat, with Kdlsonian intensity, absorbed in thought, 1 watched his ''face. It showed to me no signs of Jr added age; there was not less than f the old-time brilliant sparkle in his eyes; his hand as it tapped a pencil on the table was as steady as a youth's; a moment later when he rose to cross the room his step revealed a spring and an alertness notable In that of few other men now living who were born in 1847. His . moment of revery ended ab ruptly. "Give me a pad! Give me a nadl" h called to Meadowcfoft, for years his Office associate. His voice was ringing and without one of the signs of age, I handed him a pencil and some pa per and he wrote with a firm hand and smoothly flowing thoughs the list Of H great achievements which he numbers as the most important work Of other men since his own inven tion of the electric lighting system. He carefully explained, as he pushed the list across the corner of the table toward me, that he probably had omit ted many things from it. The follow ing day, when he revised this inter view, he added the seventeenth Item. "The biggest value to -the world has some from chemical discovery," he added, "If we set aside -the work of medical men. " It has been a very fruitful period in chemistry. Of the sixteen items on his original list only six were strictly chemical; and that his heart Is true to his first love, electneity, is shown by the quaint circumstance that the first item on his list consists of the one word "wireless." I asked him to tell me something of tiaMmate at what his Invention of Thtraa A. Edison. the electric lamp really has aecom- plished. . . Was the Starting PotnU "It seems to have been the starting point for the whole era of electrical development," he answered. But there was no boasting In the woras or in tne tone, it was merely the reply of one who, thinking deeply, was endeavoring to state exact fact. And then he fell suddenly silent, ab sorbed In deep thought. A curious change comes over Mr. Edison's strong face when he Is searching In his mind probably the most marvelous mental storehouse in the world for facta. V It is plain enough that he sees noth- ing, it is certain that he hears noth- ing of the outside world when he Is deeply thinking. There Is a complet- ness m the Kdlsonian abstraction which I never have seen equaled. "You see," he went on slowly when e roused from thla deep thought, "as he roused from thla deep thought. soon as the light was proved to be a practical thing, It was plain that It was of paramount Importance. It wai clear that it must speedily and com pletely be developed. "Its development developed other things, like dynamos and methods for tltJfJ?011' elctrtclty- Thesf kept me busier than the perfection of the lamp Itself had kept me. And they engaged the energies and talents of many other men. - "I estimate that 3 per cent of the work of developing our present elec-, trie lighting system was devoted to the perfection of the lamp, and that 97 per cent was devoted to the per- fection of the system which makes the lamp available for practical use- fulness. "The problems Involved tn the dis tribution of electricity for lighting purposes throughout large communi ties and its sals to the consumer, by meter measurement, as gas already was being sold, involved an enormous amount of study and hard labor. To make each light Independent of all Other lights was a great task. "It is In such associated problems that the hardest work of every big Idea lies, and in connection with the electric lamp the work was particu larly full of problems, for there waa nothing from which to draw prece dents. "About the only help I had In the development of the electric light lay in the fact that the scientific world was all against me. and recited Ohm's law to prove the case. "It was an interesting situation. I turned the Ohm's law around and did what was regarded as the opposite of that which It provided for, and found that it applied to the reversed situation peirfectly. "And once the lamp was meas'ure- aWy Perfected It seemed at once to start thought along the lines which bore the world into what we now may accurately call the 'electrical era. I am glad to have had a hand in that ' "But I wasn't satisfied with it I wanted to furnish power, as well as light as soon as the wires were spread through the strets. It was clear . enough to me that electric power was certain to become cheap, and It was , certainly more flexible than any other. "Presently we put the world's first electric railway Into operation at Menlo park, and I was sure that the idea was practical. Siemens of Berlin also put one in operation at the same time. "Its development needed money, though, and capital was hesitant In--deed, .J was assured by . the greatest financial tlgures in Wall street that thla scheme of operating railroads by electricity waa the craziest idea that ever had been advanced by any one assuming to be sane. "They eould net convinee me. .Tt had carefully gathered all the figures of the- cost of horse cars and ttreir operation and was sure that the substitution of electric power for horse power would result In an enor- mous saving. Indeed, I knew, and my knowledge was exact. 1 knew electric traction was the coming thing, and a very biS thing. ' Rut it tooled me." He paused, again deep in thought. "How?" I asked. Had Underestimated it. "It was bigger than' 1 thought it was," he answered. "I had made a better guess than Wall street had, but , ,, k my Bues had ben far from ade: Prophetic It was so big that u amased me. It increased traffic startlingly. As a matter of fact, elec- trie traction has Increased streetcar traffic, t stimat hv boo npr cent "The first electric cars revealed a facmty qf operaUon and a rapidity of A v..-l. .. m.i seemed to have expected. "Their multiplication of traffic waa enormous, their effect upon street rail way receipts was very great. Then the men In Wall street, who had declared them to be a crazy dream, began to speculate in electric traction . stock. They have been at it ever since. 'Spragtre and Johnson, two of my associates, put the first commercial ttn r-i niito tn ful operation at Richmond, Va. After this Installation the work progressed rapidly in all parts of the country." One Mr. Edison told me about his feelings when he made his first great tour of Europe, and, although he tried to travel very modestly, found the cities that he visited illuminated in ; WorkTs Greatest Inventions Sine . cm. i hi sin t htMw rtu i 3rfvali3a UUIfoe Qm ten jeVewi sum k ""J" .,.re fca is.s iiwi.sjQPsaUi'aTS f Lux i. mm yr mjQmm -it rv 9 m V asr- a T Aa Appreciation of Edison by Stelnmetx. It U true that Sdlsoa bmw went to ny eoIls, aid Dr. CbftrlM Pro too StsliuiMta In pHny of th wonderful lnrvntlon of th aleetrto IwspVhlctt Edison produced thfatjr Ot years ayo thla raomth, trat h knows more about the aubct txeorht in college tlutn most college nen. H la eaaentlally a practical man In the aenaethat whatever be esdertakea he wlahea to know whether- and how tt wouM be of uee and benefit to mankind, but at the same time he la apparently Interested and familiar with almost any field of human knowledge. Whether you talk with him about electrlea! engW neerlng or other engineer tag. erganle ebemlstry or anthropoVogy or any other subject, you always find alnt tuny familiar with the subject and able to grre you TaluabJe hints sot lag your difficulties, as X have found more than once during the various times I had the pleasure to meet him, and that even In the highly the oretical aspeeta of the subject. Thus, for Instance, most electrical engi neers now consider the subject of transients one of the most .recently explored and most Intricate fields of electrical engineering; but already In his first direct current Installation Edison met such phenomena, and un derstood and explained them. From my experience I oonstder Edison to day as the man best Informed tn all fields of. human knowledge.' his honor with the electric lamps he had invented. There was a side issue to the pride and joy he felt, furnished by the fact that many of the lamps were operated in countries where his rights were not protected, so that he drew no royalty from the honorable illumlnatlonsr but he said little about that. He ' rtever talks much about money. He never has thought much about money. But I remembered that old com ment and asked him, upon this occa sion, to tell me something of the aen tlment which stirred in him &g the anniversary of his great Invention ap proached. "I don't believe the electric light has ever stirred much sentiment in me," he answered. "I had so much trouble and worry in connection with the perfection and Introduction of the lights that I never have bad time for sentiment about them. "I believe they have expanded what we may describe as 'day,' and that that has increased the possibilities of effective human effort. I rather like to think of that "As people advance they are lea and less satisfied with the compara tively brief 'illumination nature has supplied In daylight. "Civilization's march means the march ; of artificial illumination, -because artificial illumination adds to the hours of man's possible usefulness and interest, and because Interest means happiness, and because' to the best men happiness means willingness to strive. "Everything which decreases the sum total of man's sleep increases the sum total of man's capabilities. "There really is no reason why men should go to bed at all, and the man the Electric Uzhtr-Mr. Edtsn's tUiHeXa evf v f T TsJU -t" CaH i 34 VMMwUeZaM I a r?. etc i,-r.'- 7 "Jt I; !' I " ' of the future will spend far less time in bed than the man of the present does, just as the man of the present spends far less time In bed than the man of the past did. "As a matter of fact, a very simple bit of arithmetical figuring will show that by and by humanitly will have to live in double shifts, so that there may be room upon the earth for all the people. We are conquering the en emies of life at a great rate. Our in crease of the life rate more than makes up for the decrease in the birth rate." "But war still help to keep the pop ulation down," I commented, although Mr. Edison had said, early in our talk, that he did not wish to mention war. "This war is a catastrophe," he granted, "but it isnt going to change the basic facts of life. It will leave the world as round as ever, and the places left vacant by Its slaughter will be filled. "The day of life in double abtfts wtll come in spite of war. Medical science will save more lives this year than war will take, no matter how terrif ically murderous that war may be. "I think this matter of sleeping la one of the serious things which hu manity must begin to study. I never yet have come across the case of a man who had been hurt by want of sleep. "As we have advanced in ei visita tion the amount of sleep which we have taken has decreased, and as we further advance It further will de crease. 'Sleep Is a Bad Habit." "In the old days man went up and down" with the sun. A million years from now he wont go to bed at all. Really, sleep ia an absurdity, a bad List In ffls Own Handwriting. fta U0L Cim. fbf- Os aM eo VCsJUti a A, sr-frZLa C WAsTKy mSU. VAa W t TSsJ v - f-!' 1 I -' &Cpfo ' - yy s a - v v y " A - s 4 Charles P. Stelnmetx. habit. We can't suddenly throw off the thralldom of the habit, but we shall throw it off. I "Humanity can adjust Itself to al most any circumstances. Not so very long ago we had a good deal of trouble here in the factory while we were i trying to perfect the disk record for our phonographs, and it was plain enough to me that one reason for it was that our work was too much in terrupted by the daily routine of our lives. "We made up our minds that the trouble bad to end, andvthat it would really get something approaching un divided attention until it did end. 'Eight of us then started upon the work with very definite intention of wasting just as little time as possible. "For five weeks we put in from 145 to 150 hours a week each at the Job. One hundred and fifty hours a week means more than 21 hours a day." "And none of you suffered any 111 effects?" Mr. Edison chuckled. "Ill effects? No. We all gained weight" Also Eats Very Little. This took us Into a realm of dis cussion as interesting as that con cerning sleep. Mr. Edison has a world wide reputation for sleeping very little; it seems that he deserves a world-wide reputatfctn for eating very little. This point came out when I asked him what the double quartet of prac tically sleepless ate during the period of Its intense endeavor the period, during which all its members gained weight "We bad plain, workman's food." he answered; and then he said with emphasis: 'That's the stuff fer me, and I am sure we'd all be better oif if it was what everybody ate. "Our diet was not scientific It was fuel for our physical engines. As I remember it It consisted principally of potatoes, onions, fried ham, pork and beans and pie. When we felt ex hilarated because things were going nicely we sent out for a steak. "We became known in the factory as tbe Insomnia squad, and we all were proud of the appellation. "We enjoyed life, too, and I don't think all the members of the Insom nia squad' have gone back to their old habit of oversleeping, or to their old habit of eating too much and too elab orately. "They felt too well while they were members of the 'insomnia squad.' "The man who sleeps too much suf fers from it in many ways and gains nothing from it The average man who sleeps seven or eight or nine hours daily is continually oppressed by las situde. "If he sleeps only four or five hours daily, he feels as clear as a bell and full of energy when he wakes up and when he goes to bed he is sufficiently tired so that he will certainly sleep well, but it takes a month or two to acquire the habit" "Have you always slept well?" I inquired. "I have never overslept and I have never had a dream, good or bad, so far as I know, in my life." said Mr. EdiSOn. "I had a close friend." he went on. -who conatantly complained of dread- i H,.,m. r irfvised a shortening of the hours of sleep.- My advice waa accepted, sleep waa cut down to six hours daily, and the result has been an absolute succesa. "Nothing in the world ia more dan gerous to the efficiency of humanity thaal too much aleep, except perhaps, stlmttlation. The elimination of all stimulant would be a fine thing for the race. I lately have been using a .coffee from which the caffein has been extracted before it oe into the cof fee pot, and it baa been a distinct ad--vance. I , Xb vac against stimulant is a V,.' o ' 1 Y A' ! (cr i w -f V;M n n s JL 4 1" A 4 'A t v I fine, big human sign. The temperance. movement's advance ought to be a ject for general congratulation; m.i;' winter's crusade in New York for l?t-g ter regulation of habit forming lruKijj was mighty worthy work; presently b shall be cutting out tobacco, tea xndlp coffee, and we all shall be better for t,) "But a general deoresse in tlie waste entailed by too muoh sleep willj do more for humanity,' I think, thuna almost anything ever (has done. . ' "When I went through Switzerland I noticed that in the -valleys every onM was in bed and dead to the world at 8 oj- 9 o'clock at night, and they neveit were very much all v to it at nj,$ time. From that population nothlnkS is to be expected. ' a "Higher up, where the development of water power had meant cheap anjl. Plentiful light for every one, it waf quickly and plainly apparent thst tltel mental life of the people was brthtirw and more efficient , j "The same thing is noticeable In tHcf United States to any one who keeiM his eyes open when he travels, arid; nothing is apparent to tbe man wis keeps his eyes shut Sleep shufs them. if "Here, as in Switzerland, where tl nights are illuminated you see nwi buildings, busy factories, clever aiicfi effective people. Where there is "nS cheap and effective artificial light 'yQO? find stupid people. j "It Is that which marks the pri$ cipal difference between the city riiiifl and the country man. here, as elHfcS where. And of ail illumination electric? Hht Is the best In every respect cji and gaa both vitiate the atmosphere and thus counteract some of thefjf advantages. Electricity does not. is the perfect light It brightens pebl Pla UP- - ( "Suppose a crusade which would educate the people ' might be atartfeu which would keep th 90,000.000 pejog . pie of the United States out of bcU one hour each night if "I can think of no way n which w vast addition to the wealth of. tfid . world could be made so certainly if'li by this method, but this nation shj the world will be slow In Its adoption, for apparently sleepiness is the mosj. -difficult of all habits to break a wag from. But there is sr vast economy gain which humanity may mtk wittj out the help of any new invention. : 1 "Another and an even greater onjji might be accomplished If ; tbe wof ill would stop Ita overeating, j; "The 'Insomnia squad' here at Ch factory was also a food-temperan;:! squad to an extent If it had by more temperate in food consumption It would have gained efficiency there by. I consume five ounces to a mei, three times a day. Including the wt in the; food. I drink lota of water, 1$ "The man engaged at hard physleaU labor, whose work makes the en sens or his body require more fuel thja mine does, could get on perfectly wrll with eight or ten ounces to a mul although he1 might find the achieve ment of the habit difficult if "On the average, men would $ . better if they reduced their food j J sumptlon by two-thirds. They do lite work of three horse-power eni'i and consume th fuel which snoajjri operate fifty horse-power engines, f A "Taking into their bodies too rntS't1 uuuiuuug tuwiuicd vuy ynttiu.y find themselves unable to aesimtlsge efficiently any nutritioua substaoc Taey become obese and pallid they can't bold their ownin the rte because they are 111 -from malnutri tion. Their Intestines are full of ba,)- terla. producing putrefaction. TWy fail both of efficiency and comforts "We need enough solid food. eh day to compensate for the soHs 'which our body burns up in dJgstio. and if we take mora than that ta harm ouraalvea. Wa should eat? -to keep oor weight constant ' ' TVt ounces at a meal ia nearer what really require than the great quagip Ue wlflcb moat of us consume. I hVa Concluded, on. Pago SovcaJ v - i f A