THR- OREGON TdAILY JOURNAL, PORTLAND, . FRIDAY.:, EVENING, AUGUST 21, 1914. 11 COMMISSION STARTS ON STILL HUNT FOH BAHNACLESON PUBLIC Witness Tells Industrial Re lations Committee What He Believes Causes Unrest TESTIMONY DRAWS SNEER Mesafcer of Board Belies Issue With Employers' Association Betaf Discussed. a "bernacle on the body What la public 7" Answer to th question sought by th United States commission on Indus trial relations at Its hearing; In the cen tral library this morning; has not yet been given to the satisfaction of the commissioners, M. C. Banfleld, organizer of the Em ployers' association of the Pacific coast. as a witness tesimea mat me numan family la divided Into three clauses employers, employes and barnacles on the body public. William O. Thompson, counsel for the commission, asked him to define the third characterization. Mr. Ban field answered that every one should know what he meant, but that he would go further and say, that he had In mind leaches and bloodsuckers. Chairman Walsh Interrupted. "I will confess I do not yet know what you mean. Can you not put it In plain Kngllshr Mr. Banfleld explained that he had organised the employers' association in the Interests of capital and labor, to be In readiness for attack by the "bar nacles." Banfleld Defines "Barnacles." "Do you mean those who inherited money?" asked Chairman Walsh, "I think I do," responded Mr. Ban fleld. He was also ready to Include thieves and pickpockets, but unwilling to thus designate doctors and lawyers, as, he said, they are always employed by someone. - "I mean those who live not on men tal or physical energy, but by Jaw bone," exclaimed Mr. Banfleld, with a little show of Irritation at the ripple of comment and amusement in an au dience composed to an extent of labor union representatives. Some kinds of politicians and graft ers he meant, too, but not agitators. "We are agitators right here and we are doing no., good by this Investiga tion,' flared the witness, who added. in response to continued questioning j that he did not think of llteratteurs or poets as barnacles, but that dealers In real estate nearly fitted the descrip tion. Witness Is Asked to Xxplaln. I am not classifying anyone," he said when asked If he also included persons who hold real estate for la crease in value. Chairman Walsh relinquished the questioning to Commissioner Commons who is professor of economics In the University of Wisconsin. "When you refer to 'barnacles on the body public' do you refer to officials of trades unions?" asked Commons di rectly. "You are making a pretty good guess," admitted Mr. Banfleld. "Do you mean business agents of labor unions?" "I have said all I will say." WUI you give any speclfla Instances of graft among officials or business agents of labor unions?" "I never dealt with labor unions." Mr. Banfleld was asked to explain what he meant by saying that the in vestigation by the United States com mission on Industrial relations Is un necessary. "All Organizations, commissions and agencies that interfere with individual liberty are failures," he answered promptly, then explaining his idea that work should be a matter of rela- tlon between employer and employe, as In former times, which, he said, are much better than now. Organisation Declared Wrong. "Why, before all this carnage of blood and murder and fighting one an other the man who earned $30 a month was better off . than many a banker of today," he declared, adding expres ion of his belief that, organization both of employers and employes Is wrong;. - "When in time of peace you prepare by organization for trouble you are sure to get it." The witness said he thought unions should have no salaried officials. As organizer of the Employers' Associa tion of the Pacific Coast he ssjRd he had accepted no salary. - , "I consider the man who accepts sal ary for organisation s coward,"- he averred. Commissioner Garretson, who ts president of the Order of Railroad Con ductors, cut In with a half-heard re mark about Its seeming fully as cowardly to him to refuse to give plain definition of statements, then asked what was the difference between or ganisers of employers' associations and labor unions as barnacles. Garretson asked the witness what credentials be had as a representative of labor In .organizing the employers' association "in behalf of capital and labor." Ban field's answer was apparenly unsatis factory and Garretson sneerlngly add ed, "You were self elected, thent" Teamsters' Strike Becslled. Banfleld described the teamsters strike of 1910 which he directed here for the employers. He said that one of his men, a hostler, claimed to have gone on strike only because labor union representatives kept him behind a tree until 2 o'clock at night, threat ening to kill him if he did not strike next morning. The witness also re lated that the union set the delivery of four loads of fuel as a day's work, and that when he fired men who sat playing cards In the middle of the afternoon, after delivering their four loads, be had more trouble. "There never has been a strike won in Portland by the unions," said Mr. Banfleld. answering a question as to the success of strikes called In this city. rishermen's Secretary Complains. H. M. Lornsten, secretary of the Fishermen's union, Astoria, was the first witness called. He complained that public officials, from government to state, seem to work against the gill- net fishermen and for the trappers, seiners and wheel fishermen. He said that the laws passed are not enforced if they favor the gill net fisherman. and that most of the legislation Is in favor of the others who compose themselves the corporation. He said there should be a take of 600,000 cases of salmon from the Co lumbia river annually, but there is less than 100,000 cases, partly because fish ing below tidewater is permitted, part ly because fish are taken from the up per river in clear water and are pre vented from spawning, and partly be cause, he said, the government hatch eries turned into the river Inferior fry. Chairman Walsh ventured the asser tlon that If conditions are as repre sented by Lornsten, be should be able to secure correction through support lng publlo sentiment. Lornsten said the average earnings of a, boat and two men - per season is $600, of which $200 must be taken for the rig. leaving $100 for each man to pay him for, say, four months' work; Some of the boats, . ot course, earn more than this but there are others that come to : the end of the season facing a deficit. Pressmen's Troubles Discussed. I.- D. Hunter, secretary of the Port land Typothetae. an organisation, of i employing printers, described the trou ble that had been bad with pressmen. Witnesses examined yesterday after noon were A. H. Harris of the Labor Press, Professor A. E. Wood of Reed college, T. H. Burchard, president of the State Federation of Labor; B. W. Bleeman, business agent of the Car penters union, and Mrs. Lizzie Gee of the United Garment Workers. Witnesses to be heard yet today are George H. Howell of the International Typographical union, Ernst Kroner. an architect, and C E. S. Wood, who Is listed as counsel for the unions of Portland. The hearing will conclude tomorrow with the ' evidence of Father E. V. O'Hara, Amedee Smith and Caroline J. Gleason of the industrial welfare commission, W. F. Woodward. Johr Talt. C. F. Swigert and Benjamin Os borne. Some surprise has been ex- Stressed tUat Labor Commissioner Hoff wa aot among the witnesses subpenaed, because he has been con stantly referred to by other witnesses. Publicity Man Sues Brewery- Concerns 1. X. Bowls Charges Breach of Con tract and Asks Balance of Salary as Campaign Xanagsr for "Wets." Charging breach of contract, F. R. Bowie began suit in the circuit court today against 11 brewing concerns and two Individuals for $1120, claimed as the balance of salary which Bowie al leges is due for his services as public ity manager for the liquor interests wet campaign. The defendant seamed are: Gam brlnus Brewing company, Portland Brewing company, Rothchild Bros, Olympla Beer agency, W. J. Van Schuy ver & Co., F. Zimmerman & Co., Henry Fleckensteln & Co., Salem Brewing as sociation. North Pacific Brewing com pany, American Brewing & Crystal Ice company. Northern Brewing company, H. Varwig and Sol Blumauer. Bowie says he was employed by A. M. Eppstein, secretary of the Oregon Brewers' and Wholesale Liquor Deal ers' association on June S, at the sal ary of $75 per week until November S. He says he was discharged July 27 In spite of the contract. Action was brought through Logan & Smith, attorneys. COMMISSIONER FAILS NEW TELEPHONE RATE H. Daly. Will Place Mat ter Before Council Next Wednesday, REPORT IS COMPLETED month; as the elimination of the meas-1 ured service at any time would leave the subscribers with cheaper service than $2.26 unlimited class." ' The new $1.60 a month rate was placed in effect a short time ago and allows $0 calls a month. Three cents is charged for each additional call. The rate was made following several con ferences concerning Commissioner Daly's resolution to have the company return to rates embodied in the com pany's franchise but long since abandoned. EXCURSIONISTS START Bankers Prepare to Use New Currency Statement Is XSade That If ew System Kay Ziead to Increase In Cost In stead of Seduction. Contending that the new $1.60 a month rate of the Pacific Telephone & Telegraph company is in no sense a reduction from the $2.25 two-party unlimited service which the city seeks. Will H. Daly, commissioner of publlo utilities, and father of the movement for cheaper rates, has taken steps to require the company to replace its two-line-five-party service. In recommendations to be made to the council next Wednesday, Commis sioner Daly will ask that his original resolution demanding the company to replace its discontinued two-line-five-party, service and other rates which may have been discarded b adopted. In his report, completed today, Com missioner Daly says that while the new rate will probably furnish a satisfac tory service to subscribers having lit tle use for a telephone, It is In no sense a reduction, and Is In effect a $1.50 ready-to-serve rate. "If the process of elimination by substitution of service is continued by Journal Want Ads bring results. ON COOS BAY TRIP BY TRAIN IS EVENING Sixteen Portland Business Men Will Be In Large Party to Make the Trip. Hetlonal Currency AssoolaUom Termed at Meeting Held Tester day Officers Elected for Ensuing Term. Oregon bankers are now in line to make use of the government's new emergency currency, following the for mation yesterday of the National Cur rency Association of Oregon in the di rectors' room of the United States Na tional bank. The officers chosen are: President, C. F. Adams, president of the Security Savings & Trust com pany; vice president. R. Lee Barnes, vice president of the United States National; secretary, George W. Bates, president of the Lumbermen! National I treasurer, P. E. Snodgrass, president of the First National bank of Eugene. J. C. Alnsworth was chairman of a ! committee that did the preliminary 1 work Veadlng to the organisation. The comptroller of the currency sent cer tain blanks and forms for the use of . the association, and these will be filled out and sent back for the gov ernment's records. Eleven national banks of the state j are now represented in the association, including, besides the Portland banks, , the First National banks of Eugene, ; Astoria, Albany, The Dalles and Baker j and the Capital National of Salem. An executive committee was appoint- ) ed. consisting of Joseph Schmltt, presi- i dent of the First National of Albany; eixieen roruana business men, largely representative of the commer cial interests of Portland, have signed ror the excursion to the Coos bay country, which starts tonight. The party was limited to twenty, and sev eral who were undecided at noon. It was thought, would add their names to the list before train time. The Portland men are going In re sponse to many urgent Invitations on the part of commercial elobe and bus iness interests or the coos nay region for representative business men of this section to go and see the progress that has been made and the resources that Southwestern Oregon has. Leaving Portland by sleeper, the party will breakfast at Eugene and leave at i:S0 by the new Willamette Pacific railroad. They will travel to Its present terminus and from there go to Mapleton to spend Saturday night. Leaving Mapleton Sunday morning In special conveyances, the line of the railroad will be followed and progress in its construction noted through Acme and Florence to Gardiner. Leaving Gardiner at t o'clock Monday morn ing, Marshfleld will be reached a noon. Tuesday morning the party will go to Myrtle Point and spend the day, leaving In the evening for Coquille to spend the night. Wednesday after noon at 1 o'clock they leave rn auto mobiles for Bandon. to stay until Thursday afternoon at 1 o'clock. Re turning to Marshfleld the same day, the night will be spent there and Fri day at 12:20 the party will start for Portland, arriving here late Saturday afternoon. touched are expected to iota the Port' IndNmen and travel with them to the ether points of Interest. , C C. Chapman, secretary of the Portland Commercial club, ts manag ing the excursion. Others signed for the trtp so far are . C C Colt, chairman of the delegation and president of the ITtuoo Meat Co.; John'M. Hcott. general passenger agent - for the Southern Pacinc; O. L num mer, secretary Portland Union stock yards; J. Fred Larson, president Urn denstock sc Larson Co.: C F. Wright, rice president-secretary Ballou Wright; F. 8. West, managsr Gooa year Rubber Co.: Fred Blmlngton vice president Miller - Blmlngton - Calhoun company; Phil Metschan Jr., proprietor Imperial hotel; R. M. Irvine, sales manager Flescbner. Mayer Co.; A. J. Ness, sales manager M. L.- Kline; Arthur J. Raney. general agent Secur ity Mutual Life Insurance Co.; W. H. McVay, credit manager Marshall-Wells . Hardware Co.: Frank E. Smith, Frank E. Smith St Co., Inc.. general insur ance; H. W. Mac Lean, manager Pa cific Paper Co.; W. A. Lemon t, sales manager Pacific Hardware & Steel Co. Scientists tn both Germany and France are seriously trying to ascer tain if there Is any value in the divin ing rod for locating underground water Business men or tne cities and metals. the company, as In the past,' says ! J. H. Albert, president or the capital j Commissioner Dalv. I can see where ! National of Salem ; Emery Olmstead, th meuranui mrvipn mav s-ra.tiv tn- vice president of the Northwestern Na- i ereas the cost to those subscribers ' tlonal of Portland; R. L. Durham, presi- I now using the present JZ.Z6 unlimited ( ot m mn,uaui .-.o-wwu. . , Lumbermens National. service. "There is no question In my mind that the consumer should elect the class of service he needs. As long as the company can substitute or dic tate the class of service it is willing to install for the consumers, the way will be open for the company to force the measured service on the subscrib ers who have a normal use for the tele phone, and thereby greatly increase Its revenue. Th council should certainly not admit this $1.50 a month measured service as a scbstltutlon for the two-wlre-flve-party line service at $1.25 a Delegates Named. Sacramento, Cel., Aug. 21. Gover nor Johnson today named M. N. New mark and Harold A. Oilman of Los Angeles, and A. L. Powell of San Francisco, delegates to attend the in terstate irrigation commission's meet ing at Helena, Mont., October 1. 2 and 3. Secretary of the Interior Lane has called the congress to discuss irriga tion problems and make recommenda tions for Important reclamation work in the west. Special For Saturday 17 Lbs. Sugar With every orUer of gro ceries amounting to $5 or more. We have a complete line of Grocer ies and Liquors. Give us your order for Saturday. Ryan Grctery Co. Phone Main 7632 Cor. Ninth and Davis Streets PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S i 34- 'Out of- the high rent district," Green ST A M P,.'s With this advertisement and s pur Chun of 3 lbs. Ardmore. Coffee for $1.10 at oar store, or with six of tbe jeltow ticket given by our salesmen. This sd redeemable Saturday, Aug. 22, .and. Monday, Aug. 24 only. Positively Do stamps sent out. Tbe tickets given by oer salesmen ras be exchanged any time for 8. H. stamps. 7777773 : 809 SALMON. ST. Between Front and First.' Main 8268. CLOSE SAT. P. K. I Q ft. CO Q u lo co - cl lUJ to Bey at the People's Became It Pays We don't ask for your business on any other grounds than GOOD GROCERIES FOR LESS MONEY. Don't buy here because you like us or because our clerks are at tentive and' polite or our deliveries are quick and accurate. BUT, buy here because you get more for the dollar. POTATOES 100 lb. sack .$1.50 15 lb. sack ...250 Sweet Potatoes, lb 50 10 lbs. good, solid Onions 250 Watermelons, per lb. . ........ ...".lj Green Corn, per dozen ....150 Fancy Gravenstein Apples, box $1.00 3 for 25c Specials Splendid quality Corn, Tpmatoes, Beans, Peas, Vinegar, Extracts, Cat sup, Molasses, Clams, Shad, Salmon, Olives, Mustard. Salad Oil, bottle ....250 Crosse & Black well Salad Oil. . . .850 10 lbs. Compound .,950 5 lbs. Compound. m. t .500 Small Crisco . .300 Medium Crisco MMM..M....55(i Large Crisco ... .$1.05 1 lb. Cocoanut ................. . 150 BUTTER Extra Fancy Creamery ........ 700 Fancy Creamery .............650 2 lbs. Tillamook Cheese. 350 2 dozen Ranch Eggs .550 CONDENSED MILK 2 cans Supreme 150 2 cans Aster 150 2 cans Marigold 150 3 cans Carnation 250 3 cans of Pioneer Milk .-..250 Eagle Milk 150 SYRUPS 1 gal. Homestead . . 500 y2 gal. Homestead ....... ..250 1 gal. Monarch ....450 1 gaL Blue Label Karo 500 Y gal. Blue Label Karo. .... 300 gaL Homestead, cane and maple at 500 New Honey, per comb 150 Strained Honey, pint. .....250 Strained Honey, quart.. ....... '.500 Strained Honey, gaL $1.25 BUY YOUR MEATS HERE We carry a full line of smoked and fresh meats and meat products. We do an immense business be cause we are satisfied with a small profit. The result is more meat for the money for youand YOU ARE SURE OF FRESH MEAT. All Cereals Are Advancing BUY NOW 9 lbs. Oats and Wheat... 300 9 lbs. Cream Oats 400 9 lbs. Coarse or Fine Graham 300 9 lb. sack Farina 400 9 lb. sack Germ Meal.......... 400 Quaker Oats, package. ....... .100 2 pkgs. Violet "Oats 250 3 pkgs. Violet Wheat 250 Cream of Wheat ....150 2 pkgs. Wheat Eats. .250 9 lb. sack Corn Meal. .350 1 pkg. Uncle Sam... 200 1 pkg. Roman Meal 200 SOAPS 13 bars Elk Savon si 250 8 bars XLNT 250 7 bars Golden Star 250 6 bars Fels Naphtha 250 6 bars Sunny Monday 250 6 bars Crystal White 250 2 bars Sapolio .150 Gold Dust 200 Peariine 200 Citrus .......200 PHONE YOUR ORDERS We're right at this end of the line, ready to give you the same personal service as though you were actually in our store. When you order over the phone, you put us on our reputation for square deal ing so don't' hesitate. Here is ONE place phone orders get real attention. SPECIAL ON TEAS Gunpowder, Japan, E. B., Cey- Of Ion, all, per pound -aDC EXTRA SPECIAL 1 lb. Lipton's Yellow Label Tea. 600 All Spices, except mace and nut meg, per can ................ .50 1 lb. Black Pepper . ... . ..... .250 1 lb. Fine Pure Mustard 250 Hires Root Beer 200 SPECIALS 2 Dutch Cleanser 150 2 Large Ivory Soap 150 Postum 200 Instant Postum 250 Imported Peas, can 100 Bakers Cocoa 250 Homestead Cocoa 150 1 lb. W. H. Baker's Chocolate. . .350 1 lb. Sweet Chocolate 250 Snider's Catsup 200 COFFEP Grand Special, lb .....250 Homestead, lb. 300 Gilt Edge, lb ...350 German-American, lb. can 300 3-lb. can 850 We also carry Golden West, De pendable and Diamond W, in one and three-pound cans at popular prices. Ci 1 lb. Royal Baking Powder 400 25 oz. K. C. Baking Powder 200 1 lb. Coledyke Baking Powder.. 100 1 lb. Ginger Snaps 100 3 lbs. Soda Crackers 250 1 large pkg. Soda Crackers. ...-.200 6 pkgs. Uneeda Biscuit 250 Large box Soda Crackers. 750 5 lbs. Broken Macaroni 250 1 No. 5 Macaroni 250 FLOUR BUY NOW Our Special, sack $1.15; bbL $4.50 Corvallis, sack $1.20; bbL $4.75 Olympic Crown, Vim, White River, sack $1.40; bbL $5.50 We Take Phone Orders FRIDAY EVENINGS Until 10 o'clock Main 5700 A-6255 QUICK DELIVERY Free, of course Sellwood, Tuesdays and Thursdays; Rose City Park, Arleta. . Kern Park, Tremont and Lents. Wednes days and Fridays; Montavilla, Thurs days. Daily deliveries to other sections I isrn and mm SUNNYSIDE STORE So many ople orer on the East Side in the Sunnyside district have asked for it, that we are conducting a Sunnyside branch at 994-96 Belmont Same prices as main store. Free de liveries. Phones Tabor 18, B-1215. Phone orders taken at Sunnyside Store till 10 o'clock" Friday evenings PEOPLE'S j PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S f . PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S j PEOPLE'S j PEOPLE'S PEOPLE'S JVC Orees Trsdlaf temps FREE Wit snyarcBeses Open BstrirAavy Kvenlnffs -1 Vs f tVwMrT" Corner Second and Yamhill Streets Crree Tradim S temps FREE Wltfe sJl Furoisses Oyea sfwO&r Xve&lBs mam STALL 30 Pot Roast of Beef 120 and 150 Cottage Hams 100 Na 5 Pure Lard 700 No. 10 Wash Pure Lard $1.35 STALLS 4 AND 5 Our specials are everything to eat. Our prices are die lowest. Call M. 6352, we will fill your orders and deliver. STALL 19 Bine Ribbon Butter, roll.. W. C. Special roll Aster MUk, 2 cans ....... -' - 700 .. ...... . 150 STALL 21 California Grape Fruit, 6 for 250 Oregon Crawford, box . . 500 STALLS 22 AND 24 Roast Beef . ..... . . . . . .:.12c Bacon . . . 15c Home-Made Liver Sausage 12c STALL 16 Choice Juicy Steak 140 Pot Roast Beef 1240 Try a sack of the New Astoria Bread Flour, the cleanest, whitest Flour made on the coast 20th Century Grocery. STALL 26 2 lbs. Peanut Butter . . ; 250 Double S. & H. Stamps with all bulk Teas and Coffee. STALL 9 Holly Milk, 2 cans ...150 Rogers Peanut Butter, lb 150 Tillamook Cheese, lb 200 STALL 7 Choice Oregon Halibut, lb 80 STALL 23 Only choice Inspected meats here. Dou ble S. & H. Stamps with every 50c purchase. STALL 20 Country Club Coffee 350 0 lbs. Rolled Oats 450 3 boxes Hudson Lye 250 STALL 12 Freestone Peaches, dozen 100 STALL 11 Sharpless Butter, roll 700- Oregon Creamery Butter 600 Good Eggs, dozen 300 Wisconsin Sharp Cheese, lb 250 STALL 15 Home-Made Potato Salad, lb 150 Summer Sausage, lb 350 STALL 18 Full line of Fresh Killed Chickens and Fish of all kinds. STALL 14 Regular S5c Coffee 300 Regular 60c Tea 500 air 14 libs. $122 LAMB ROAST, lb. ;. 8c Boiling Beef Sausage. . . Hamburger Fancy Beef Roast . -Beef Steak I .... . Lamb Chops. 12 c Bologna Liver Sausage. . . . ., lOc Oregon CREAMERY BUTTER Two Pounds 65c, 70c and 75c Columbia River Salmon, lb. 10c Halibut, lb . . ..fee Kippered Salmon, 2 lbs. . . . 35c 3 cans tall Salmon 7 lbs. Rolled Wheat, Oats . 3 lbs. F'cy Dried Peaches. 3 lbs. Large Raisins PTQ 5 lbs. Macaroni .1 1 u. 25 MASON JARS Quarts, per doz. 50c Pints, per doz. . . 45c SCHRAM FRUIT JARS Quarts, per doz. 45c Pints, per doz.. .40c WASHINGTON mmii m rssstr w mm v m m i m corner First and washington ot. Malaga Grapes, six lbs. for .... .25c Tomatoes, six lbs. for .....25 c Sweet Potatoes, six pounds for . . 25c Cantaloupes . 5c, 10c