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III ffl- REPUBLIC
Man V?ho Readily Gave Away
for Yuan Shi- Kai Talks; In
terestingly on Relation of
. Country to World Powers.
Written for The Journal by Spencer
Talbot
Nanking, China, eb. 17 Tour corre
spondent has Just been riven the privi
lege of. interviewing- Sun Tat Sen, the
first president of ' the provisional re
public of China, who has resigned in
favor of Tuan Shi Kai, My interview,
however, probably will, not be found
more Interesting than the Interview
which preceded it.
My card was handled by no less than
12 military and secretarial dignitaries
before It reached the chief executive
and when I, finally was ushered Into the
presidential office I found another In
terviewer Uiead of me who was engag
ing President- Sun In most earnest con
versation. This person proved to be
Miss Lin Tsung Su, walking delegate,
business agent or whatever you are of
mind to call her, of the' Chinese Suffra
gettes' union., . ' .
She Is an attractive young glrL That
Suffragettes' union knew what It was
about whin it picked "her out- to inter,
view the new president.. Her mission on
this occasion wis to attempt to put Mr.
Bun. on record In favor of the ballot
for Chinese women, and she. came very
close to doing it He told her thai he
was glad to see her,- that her object was
good one tfnd that be was inclined to
view it with favor.: -
8u Ht Against Suffrage,
."This important Jnatter is not in my
hands' he said, f'but Tuan Shi Kai
will have a good deal to do with It when
It comes to be dealt with. If the Chi
nese women hope to gain the vote, they
will have to qualify themselves. .They
will have to educate themselves in re
gard to the laws and the government,
and especially as regards the election
laws. Chinese men are going, to be
doing this for some years to come, and
It will be a good opportunity for the
women to do so. When they are quali
fied, there is no doubt in my mind that
the vote wUl be given tv them."
Miss, Lin assured the president that
plans already were laid by her union for
an educational campaign among Chinese
women by means of lectures and articles
is- Uve Chinese press. Jle then gave her
permission to wire her headquarters in
tsnangnai or nis views, ana me auaience
was over.
Dr. Bun Is small, dark and jovial. He
works fast and good bumoTedfy; and evi
dently is-a clever -organizer. ' He has
been making a very chaotic situation be-
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Mr. CeitI
VOTESFORVO
and the ;
STEINWAY
PIANO
Mr. Carl Denton, a pupil of the Royal Academy of
Music of London, England, of which he is at present the
local representative, has been a resident of Portland for.
eleven years. He is weU known as organist and choir di
rector of St. Stephens
teacher. - Mr. Denton contributes the following indorse
ment of the STEINWAY PIANO with permission to
use the same..
sherman; clay & co. - . "
Gentlemcn Some twelve' years since, in St. James
'Hall, London, I had the opportunity to heat, in" one even
ing, on one platform, three great artists each using a dif
ferent piano. One . used Steinway, - another, Bechstein
(German), and the third used Broadwood (English).
This was a test worth' making. At the conclusion of this
concert I knew that I would never be satisfied with any"
-but a Steinway Piano! . I ". " r ' ; '
I do not believe that any musician really prefers any
other piano. to Steinway,ihd the presence of a STEIN
WAY GRAND PIANO recently. pur,chased-io my
music room is ample proof that I do not. "v. ,
: " .- - - - - Sincerely,
. r- CARLDENTONT
Sherman
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gin to show some evidence of system.
His Interview with Miss Lin stamps l.im
as being rather far Beelng, 1 It is" Often
said that the women of China have more
influence over their men than the women
of any other country over theirs. This
is to a great extent true.. It is due to
the system of clan and family life.
When a youth marries, he continues to
live with his own family. The bride
becomes a very -humble member of .her
husband's, family- Tnus It is not the i
wives who control, but the mothers, the
Old women, and largely the old men, al
though this revolution Is bringing many
young men Into the center of the. stage.
Summing up this phase of the situation,
It would not be surprising to see China,
the youngest republic the first to grant
the vote to women. :
President Sun's, long residence abroad
has caused him to shed a good deal of
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Ex-president of the new Chinese republic. Bun Tat Sen, and photographs taken In Nanking, the new capital
of China, where he will have hla. headquarters. ' The snapshot of Dr Sun shows . him surrounded by
members of his staff and bodyguard just before leaving the railway station at Shanghai to go Jo Nan
king, following his election to the presidency. The small picture Shows the American consulate at Nan
king, and below is a group of republican soldiers taken in Nanking. , A'. ' : '-
reticence and - philosophic evasiveness
one encounters In the average Chinese
statesman:-H talk freely and frankly
when ft question is asked which he feels
that he can answer. The interviewer
will find him a good deal like Wu Tlhg
Fang In this regard. He asks as tininy
qu'estlons as his interviewer.
"What about thi cabinet was asked,
the interviewer having In mind Tuan
Shi.' Hal's experience when he was ap
pointed premier some two months ago
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Portland;. Oregon.
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and appointed ft cabinet only to have two
thirds of the appointee decline he
places-offered.- .." '
"All accepted with the exception of
Mr. Wong, who felt that Er" Wu . Ting
Fang ought to he retained as minister of
foreign affairs. At the first sitting of
the cabinet , all the members were .pres
ent excepting Dr. Wu and We. Wong,
and I received many helpful suggestions.
These men will be as great help. to Yuan
Shi Kai as they were to me."
Dr." Sun was told of the general sur
prise which had been manifested over
the appointment of Dr. Wu to the min
istry of law Instead of the ministry ef
foreign, affairs. -' If-
St. Wa Xs Jlenr CHtsW .
That was not a mistake," he replied.
"Dr, ; Wu probably is - better known
among foreigners as a diplomat than he
is as a lawyer, but we consider him ft
better lawyer than diplomat He has
practiced law; he Was. graduated as an
English barrister In London. In recent
years he has drafted the civil, erlminal
and commercial codes of China. fitUl
more recently, he has been engaged in
drafting a still more modern set of laws.
which we expect to adopt, with possibly
some alterations.. J consider his ftp
polntment -the most Important one In
the cabinet It Is very important to
have a strong, man as minister of for
eign affairs, but if we had ft Bismarck
or a Napoleon In that office he would
be able to accomplish nothing until our
laws are reformed. That must snd will
be the. first thing on the reform . pro
gram. With frood legal foundation,
we will be able to accomplish things in
the bureau of foreign affairs. ,Tes, un
Ul we get good laws we will be able to
accomplish nothing." -
"What is the reform program V
"It Is too early to go into that." We
must do a great many things, but the
president and cabinet must discuss and
formulate the program. -
-What about llklnr (This, it should
be explained, is a tax on goods in tran
sit which has given no end of trouble
and expense. ?to foreign . hongs doing
business In Cnina. ' It is in ft way com
parable to the old ' toll gate system in
some, parts of the United States, but in
China It results 1 an enormous rev
enue, only ft small portion of which
ever reaches the government
That i already abolished," wsjb his
answer. ':,. ', r. . .
"And currency reformsT
"We intend to get to that among the
first things." . '
"Do you hope to abolish extra-terrl-
torlalltyr (This refers to the govern
ment of pertain ports in China which
nave been leased or ceaea . to xoreign
governments.--' In - Shanghai, for- in
stance, there: are concessions to various
nations, including Amerioa, Great Brit
ain and France a lease for 999 years.
These have been , merged into an in
ternational settlement in which there
are American, British, French, German
and other courts. An r American com
mitting an offense-is tried in the Am
erican Court. A civil action between sn
American and a Chinese is tried In what
Is known as the mixed court before an
American Judge "and a Chinese magistrate,-
Extra-terrttorlallty formerly ex
isted In Japan but the Japanese govern
ment in recent years has been! able to
abolish it , . : -:-''r , -
"As soon as we can get' the country
on 'its feet peaceful and prosperous,
governedL..byT good, 'modern, effective
laws, we hope to be able to abolish this
strange thing called extra-terrltdrallty,"
he replied. : "J. ''''
Reported jTapanese OpposittOB....,K
Dr.. Sun's attention was ; called fo
statements whl,ch-kav.-been recently
published to the effect that the govern
ment of 3a pan was opposing the forma
tion of a republic in China because of
the "fear that, 'If it proved successful,
it .'would.' lead to a Blmi4afmoveinent
there, Well .Informed foreigners who
have studied 'conditions irt 'Japan are
of the opinion that there will not be jl
revolution In Japan until the present
mikado dies. " ".. 1 '
Taxesr have roneTmr about HOfi ner
tint In Xna iasjt !5 "yiia7sanririere Is'
much distress in the mikado's kingdom.
The country is poor in natural resources
and simply has-overplayed Itself. Dr.
Eaa.iU4.Aflt caauueat on the , Japanese
government's 'position' at this time, but
a little later in the interview he turned
the tables on the interviewer by asking
what he thought the attitude of the for
elgn powers would be toward Immedi
ate recognition of the republic
Dr. sun eald thatthe permanent cap
ital of the republic probably would be
Nanking. "It has been suggested." he
was told, "that some of the powers who
have bought high priced legation prop-
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Speakers on Both Sids at
Grants Pass Are Profuse .
in Compliments. : . "
(Speclil i The Jourul.l '
, Grants Pass, Or., Feb. 17,The mem
bers of the Eugene Commercial club ar
rived this evening at :32 O'clock and
were met by a delegation . from the
Grants Pass Commercial club. After
greeting many friends the party was
taken to the Hotel Josephine and given
a banquet. After the banquet an address
of : welcome was given by. President
George C, Sabln, president of the -Grants
Pass Commercial club with- response by
M. J. Duryea, president of the Eugene
Commercial , club. " Mayor SmUh of
Grants Pats and Messrs.. Ray Good
rich, D. H. Hayes, John Sjajgjadry
And E. S. Rolfe, all of Eugene, gave
short talks. . .. . .'..'"' , '; . -The
Eugene spirit "Is here In great
power with the visiting cltliens. The
visitors leave for Eugene tomorrow
morning at .9:10 o'clock. The compli
ments' passed between the various speak
ers this evening were very profuse.
DR. C. T. CHAMBERLAIN ,
IS HOME FROM VIENNA
Dr. Charles T. Chamberlain, ' son of
United States . Senator Chamberlain, is
(home from. Vienna, where he has been
since September 1 in attendance at the
Chiari clinic for practitioners in the
treatment of nose and throat -" Mrs.
Chamberlain met him In New York and
they spent two weeks In Washington
before coming west. While Dr. Cham
berlain was abroad his wife "suffered at
tacks of appendicitis and on Friday she
was operated upon, deciding to undergo
the operation while in good health. She
Is fast recovering from the effects of
the operation.
,.,.:.,.A.Not. Usual Use.-.-t---
- From rthejf-Wasfiingti
"Lady," said Meandering Mike,
"would you lend me a cake of soapr
"Do you mean to tell me you want
.Soapr:. ... , .... ...
"Tes'm. Me partner's gotHae hloeups
an I want to scare him."
erty in Peking would object to the re
moval of the capital." '
Dr. gun laughed aV the suggestion.
The expense would be a very small
item to the foreign nations," he said,
"but "if they object to it, we would be
willing to reimburse them."' . i-
"When do you expect to be la a po
sition to begin paying the indemnities?"
"We are doing it now, through the
customs ntryUieJbn fact that" the
Chinese students InTATh-prlca ,rfiave' heen
compelled to quit school because of lack
of "funds is not our fault It Is' the
fault of the Peking government
Dr. Bun tefused to go further into his
plans at this time, except to say that
the appointment of minor officials waa
proceeding and that in all cases where
the present office holders were worthy
they were being reappointed. He shook
hands as jve parted and promised that
he would get me a passport which would
enable 'me- to go about more freely in
revolutionary territory., -
You'll remember with satisfaction the
good service and the long vegffcyou get
out of a Moyer suit e ven after you've
forgotten how little you paid for it
are not equaled anywhere at the price
its a case of under
You'd better look into Moyer $15 suits
if you rdq.Tyoii'II get iiito one"df tHjOT.
When You See It
and
YamhilL
FIVE STORES
Third and Oalc
Everiogton De Armond "Kelly.
'(Special to The Joonnl.) 1
Oregon City, Or., Feb. 17. Everlng
ton DeArmond Kelly, one of the most
prominent pioneers o'ClacIeamas coun
ty, died, Friday night at the home of
bis son-ln-iaw, Charles E. Burns. Mi-
Kelly, although 79 years of age. hod
enjoyed the best of health until he was
stricken. He ate dinner at the home of
his son, Charles W. Kelly, and late in
the afternoon returned to the Burns
home. While seated in an arm chair he
went to sleep, and about an hour later
Mrs. Burns was attracted by his heavy
breathing. Before the physician arrived
the pioneer was dead. r
Mr. Kelly was postmaster of Oregon
City during President Cleveland's first
term- and afterward was, ft member of
the city council nd county treasurer.
He was a stroh g Democrat and a devout
Roman Catholic. Ha was born in Lodt,
8eneca county, New Tork, May 20, 1833,
and when a boy moved with his family
to Michigan. He and Miss Lucy Water
,von, Hvln gt pn-co un ty. New
Tork, were married ftt Grand Blanc,
Mich., in 1852. They crossed the plains
in 1853 antrsTBtled In Oregon City. Two
years later they returned to Michigan
via the Isthmus of Panama. In the fall
of 1858 they again crossed the plains
and located in Oregon City. Mr. Kelly
on the second trip took the California
trail because of . the' uprisings of the
Indians, Ke obtained fontroi of a hotel
In this city, in, which business he re
mained until 1864, when he opened 1
mercantile store on Main street
Mr. Kelly is survived by his daugh
tr, Mrs, Burns, and, two sons, John w
and Charles W. Kelly. , 7
WARM WEATHER MAKES
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' fSnectal to The JonrnH.l ' '
Cottage Grove, Or., Feb. 17. The un
usually warm weather is causing fruit
trees and flowers to blossom out this
year earlier than in any previous year.
All fruit trees are nearly ready to blos
som out and some branches pt : 'i full
blown plum blossoms have already been
brought into the city and put on ex
hibition. Many different kinds of flow
ers ere already in bloom:.
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ememoer
In Our Ad It's So
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L U. Teal Suggests Eq:";-
ment Be Used for Govern
ment , Line in Alaska.
t"se,Kf the rails, rolling stock and en
tire equipment of the Panama raliroa I
for government. fine In Alaska is pro
posed by J. N. Teal in a letter to Scr
tary Fisher of the Interior department
at Washington. This is suggested as a
far better method of disposing of the
Panama road than by . selling It for Junk.
The letter Of Mr. Teat lsn rail.
t'fentlon to the opportunity to utilize the
present efficient force at Panama In the
far north, where Secretary Fisher has
recommended that a railroad be con
structed to develop the resources of thi,
Inland country. Mr. Teal, in his loi
ter, says:
'I noticed in the papers a statement
to the effect that the president Intended
(o submit in . the Immediate future a
message covering the Alaska' sltuatton
with his reeommendatlons thereon. Tim
item stated that he approved the policy
as -has been heretofore outlined .from
time to time by you. Amongst other
things. Is the construction of ft railroad.
In this connection, I have a suggestion
tovmake which is not at all original, but
which doubtless has occurred to you
before. That is, the use of both mate
rial and equipment not required at Pan
ama in . Alaska. With the work ap
proaching completion as It is at Pan
ama, there will be scores, If not hun
dreds, of engines and cars, and construc
tion equipment of all kinds, as well as
miles of rails that can be either used in
some such way as -above suggested or
will have to be sold. for junk. As yon
probably are aware, " the gaWe of the
Panama road Is not standard) but Is, as
J remember, five, feet Therefore, who
ever, purchases these engines and cars,:
etc,, In their bids will make due allow
ance .for the fact that they will all have
to be changed in order to be standard
ized: whereas, In Alaska, -they could he
used as they are. In addition to this,
there Is ft wonderfully effective and
well trained force of men at Panama
who will now be gradually dispensed
with and who, beyond question; would
be delighted to take up the work in
Alaska. I make these suggestions, as It
will not only save very large sums of
money or the government, as all the
material could be transported to Alaska
by water, but it is all ready and at
hand and will greatly expedite the open
ing of this country, something we all
greatly desire. -
With best wishes," I ftm sincerely
yours,- " - J. H. TEAL."
Rains Make Willamette High.
- tSiwilal to The Jonnial.
Eugene, OrC Fib. 17. The Willamette
river' registered 18 feet above low wa
ter mark this evening and Is slowly ris
ing. There wilt pot be much more rise,
however, as the rain has practically
ceased. The river, Is overflowing in
a few plaees,4rt no damage Js reported;
- Alfegretti.
These celebrated confections are for
sale- exclusively by. Big Slchcl & Co.,
92 Third, third at Washington and'
Sixth at Washington.
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