THE OREGON SUNDAY JOURNAL PORTLAND,-SUNDAY MORNING, MARCH'S,- 1911.
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DAMAGE ROADS
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Dealer Take Exception to a.
Statement MadebyOregon
ian Concerning Reliability
Riirt Held in January, 1911.1
Are Different Froniv Other Car
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CONTEST DID NOT
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Long: Island's Fatal: Experi
; ence With Vanderbilt vent
. Last Season ' Brings Many
i: Other Aspirants Into Field".
Portland automobile dealers, eharac
tertae as false and absurd statements
that have been madaconcernlngjaamag
i to the county roads from the endurance
and reliability test for auto trucks that
Jfb Jonrim! In January.
. Thi. contest-vas a feature of the
7 Portland Automobile slifow. and about 14
tracks were entered,, maklnf the circuit
of the-Section Line, Base Line, Sandy
m,1 Vnaiuv onnria rvrr a. KS mile course
at ordinary SDeed. Each truck made
but one trio over the course. -Tlfe 14
entries Included six heavy trucks, seven
pneumatic tired delivery wagons and one
hard tired deliver wagon. The success
of the contest and the enterprise of The
, Journal , In promoting it led another
newspaper to claim the trucks had done
j sio.oou damage to tne county roaas.
From letters received by The Journal
contradicting this statement tile follow,
ing extracts have been taken: .
Boaas Xot 'Damaged.'.
The writer wishes to ; state that he
was over the roads' previous. tU, the con
test, and shortly after, and he considers
this .absurd,' and nothing more than an
imposition on the part of the Oregonlan.
, The roads are not Jn any worse condl
tion after the contest, than' they were
previously, excepting possibly in a few
places, where the ; trucks got , off the
macadam into the - mud. The writer
thinks, that : the . Oregonlan should be
brought to task regarding this publica
tion, and made. to prove, their assertion
-whlcbhc does-toot illsST-thef-ean
- consistently do. ; ; "r " " . ,
- Another says! ''There was np damage
done at all whero there was really a
road. On some of the soft mud roads
the trucks cut In a little, but not nearly
so much as a wagon carrying a less load
on the Ordinary narrow tires. I noted
particularly that in "many places after
the trucks had passed over, the roads
had actually been considerably improved.
Charge X Bldleulona. ;
"Inasmuch as the ordinary rear wheel
of a truck with its double tire measures
from to 11 inches, you can readily see
that: it has a rolling tendency which
readily breaks down the rough parts' of
the road and smooths it Out ? ' ;
"Of course the claim that 1 10.000 dam
age was done is ridiculous on its face,
and such a statement could only have
been made by an irresponsible reporter'
having little or no actual knowledge of
conditions as they were,, but has simply
attempted f to make, up a sensational
story from hearsay,"
One expert proves now Impossible 'the
statements are in his letter:
"The statement Is absurd on the face
of it to any one who has had any ex-
MevtAnna wKetsAA.i lea Ahasil. I,l. :
over country roads. Fourteen five ton
automobile . trucks could not do that
much damage to the roads on 1009 trips,
let alone one trip. i
"The Oregonlan certainly gave the
trucfc Industry a very ugly slap in the
face when , they, made tha statement
It appears to the writer as though the
Oregonlan was a little Jealous over the
success of The Journal contest "A
Tea Cents Corers Samage,
"The writer went over the roads sev
eral times previous to the contest, and
Immediately after the contest, and the
road was In no worse shape after the
contest than before."
The manager of a company who has
had; wide experience with such tests,
says he never before heard of automobile
trucks injuring reads materally. He
writes: .
"I am at a loss to understand how the
trucks could damage the roads to such
an extent, because the Section Line road
Is now Impassable, caused entirely by
the Bull Run pipe line contractors oper
ating ; mule teams with steel wagona
we are informed to repair the damage
done by these learns will cost thousands
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uuufii, una cuimume me enure sum
mer at least.
"We feel that If the 00.000 were left
off the $10,000.00 damage "wfilch1he
Oregonlan claims was- done, they would
iiju mo buuu runuB naa oniy Deen dam
aged to the extent of 10 cents.
"I have recently returned from the
east,' where cars are entered on an en
durance run on an average of one a
month, and never before have I heard
that these endurance runs did any ma
terial damage to the roads."
Tracks Sot Besponsible.
And here Is one from a firm that was
not even reoresentui In th tt-
"We will say that although we did not
have a truck in this contest we noticed
mo aruciee ai tne time they were pub
lished, and thought the news gatherer
In this Instance was certainly straining
the point for something to print and
we inougm the assertions made at that
uiiiu bu uueny ridiculous that we paid
no attention to them. Although the con
test in question may have torn up the
road In one or two places, vn account
of the soft condition of the roads at
that time, the damage certainly did not
-amount to anything- like tho figure
named by the Oregonlan."
There are other letters statin? rrac-
tically, the same facts thai whatever
damage may have been done county
roads la due to the -work on the M)unt
Hoed line, the Bull Run ;lpe line and
similar enterprises where narrow tired
team, trucks are in use, and -rtalolj'
not to the broad tired, easy riding auto
mobile trucks, that are coming -Into
favor everywhere for all purposes.
NEW COAL COMPANY
; F0RMEP AT COQUILLE
i (Special Dltpatcfcto Tb Journal.)
Coqui lie, Or., March 4. Pulaski Coal
It Navigation company is the name of
new corporation Incorporated under the -laws
of Arlxona, but whose principal
officers, are cltlsens of Los Angeles. !
This company has purchased 12 9 acres
of coat land near Coqullle, Or., and ex- i
pect to commence development work '
ery sooiu ; They ' expect , within . the .
next 11 months to be shipping 800 tons
of coal per day.
rrmer in Coos county are clowln
end planting "grain 'and vegetables on,
inc upiunu. vr n-ijr viuy, uuring; UUS
j.rcity weather. . ' ;
I'u. k shooting: is still good on the
niMifiUps near foqullle.
'( cltWns f Coqullle are making
a nu've Jowsrd Improving most all the
kum u " -irlng the coming summer.
The latest ' B.-M.-P- ereatloa the -8 0 hr p.- roadster.
MIUTIA M BE
GUARANTEED TO
SECURE '11 RACE
i Will 'New Tork have an automobile
raoe! this yeart This is the question
which is seriously being thought over
Just now,, and from all Indications the
vanderbilt in New York city seems
doomed. No on knows where the raoe
will find f. home.
Reasons for the abandonment of the
big American automobile classic are
that no less than five persons were
killed or seriously wounded through
lack of proper police protection of the
course last year. An effort will be
made to secure the state militia to
guard the course, and should this be
unsuccessful the race will probably
have to be given up.
Through the poor management of the
last race, racing was given a hard blow
la the metropolis, and It was necessary
to send the grand prlx : to Savannah.
Speaking of the troubles' of the Van-.
derbllt cup promoters, , Howard M.
Covey, who recently returned from the
east, said:
KUltla, Might Xaka Baoe Possible.
"The only thing that will save the
Vanderbilt to Long Island will be1 the
guarantee , of .militia,: for . the policing
arrangements..' There cannot be another
race held there under last year's condi
tions. With troops, however, it would
be a different story.4 The course at
Savannah ; and Elgin , were policed by
troops ana tnere was no trouble witn
the crowds. It eould be tho same way
on Long island, and that is what we
are. . after. - f-,
Savannah? 'I do not think thero Is
a chance In the world of the race being
held there? Why should It? They have
the grand prise, that's enough. Re
member, road racing doea not begin and
end at Pavannah. There are other
cities that want the Vanderbilt and
will make determined efforts to land It
if Long Island falls, down. -i -
"During show week I heard a Detroit
man say that his city was after the
Vanderbilt ; He declared that If New
Tork wss unable to stage he event,
Detroit would be one of the first to
come through with a proposition. He
added that many persons he had talked
with there 'were intensely interested in
the chance of holding the Vanderbnt
Of. course, it may ba a different propo
sition when the question of patting up
enough money arises, hut I ! think ; the
Detroit folks would make good.
i 4 rThen , there Is - Chicago. Chicago
wants a big road race. The motorists
of .that section were given a sample of
the game when the Cobe cup and In
dian trophy raoes were held there In
1909. These events had none of. the
prominence of the Vanderbilt and were
not a success financially.;. Chicago
would be right tn line, however, were
the Vanderbilt to be put on the market
And there Is Lowell. The Textile City
Is anxious to take another flyer at star
ing a road race, and may make a bid."
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Model 45, with mohair top, top cover and glass front, foreHoor five-passeh-ger
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ROJ.d . I N EATE; AND MfiCARTH INC J Mr6374.
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If you :,wili buy that
slightly used car NOW,
we can. save you con
siderable in. price over
what you will have to
ay later in the spring.
omeof our customers
have left their cars
-with us to SELL, not to
; : keep in many in
stances have accepted
delivery of. their; new
cars and don't want
two carsori their hands
therefore we are in a
position , to absolutely
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feet Condition, and, that, is all you can ask, of any motor Car. "V"' '! - v-iV; .
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must be run a reasonable distance before it works properly, - ' v '. 1
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' 1910 BU1CK 17 Five-passenger,' fally equipped, including,
... tire inflating, pump. Run. only 246& guiles. - Cost new
. $2229.. Our price, $1500. - M.; , , , ,t-
1909 10PE TOLEDO Four-passenger, fullyequipped. Cost
rt new $5120. f Our price, $2000. . ,
1910 PIERCE-Six-cylinder,- 48 horsepower, " toy: tonneau,
- v - finest equipment." Cost new; $5320. Run less than 6000 ,
: riinilesJ Our price, 93750'; . s - ,-. . , . ;
BRUSH RUNABOUT, 8350. 1 . , :.", ;
, 1910 LOZIER Four-passenger toy tonneau, used for Vernon- , .
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1 1910 WHITE STEAMER Five-passenger, fully equipped.
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RICHMOND Five-passenger; fully equipped, $800.
1910 HUDSON Roadster, fully equipped. Cost new, $1850.
Our price, 8800., - '
1911 HUDSON Roadster; fully equipped, 25-gallon tank on
rear. Cost new, $1400.. Our' price, 8950. '-'
AERO CAR Five-passenger.' Cost new," $3250. Our price,'
: PACKARD "30" Seven-passenger;ully--equipped. -Costr
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1907, THOMAS . FLYER Standard ' equipment. . Cost new,
J $5125. i Our price,' 81100. ; '
1909 THOMAS FLYER Seven-passeftger, fully equipped.
Cost new, $5250. Our price, 81500. - ' ' , ' , .
1908 PIERCE ARROW-Seven-passenger, newv top, newly
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