The Oregon daily journal. (Portland, Or.) 1902-1972, October 09, 1910, Page 43, Image 43

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PORTLAND, OREGON, SUNDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 9, 1910.
SPRLAD OF JUVZ.NILL CRIME ,
RESULT OF LAS D
Cardinal Logue, the DisUngulshed Irish Prelate Visiting This Country Discusses With Edward Marshall
Terrible Results That Flow From Our Lax Marriage System- In ,: America We Do Not Know At All
' What Real Marriage Is What Should Be a Sacrament Is a tyere Nuptial Experiment,
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, - f . By Edward Marshall '
jOtJR youth ar turning into crlm
f , lnals because of Godless educa
V tton."
i'. ' Ths laxness of your 'divorce
laws is a disgrace to America."
' "Tour . marriages are experiments
nly."
"You have, apparently, no Christian
Idea of marriage at all," -' ,
; Wiiere divorce is easy no home life,
In the best sense of the word. Is pos
sible." . "The only difference ' between ' the
polygamy of the .Mormons and ' the'
polygamy of the divorced is that one ia
' simultaneous polygamy, while the other
'is successive polygamy.", 4 ., . . '
' "You. are degrading your womanhood
and making of your, men Lotharios;"
Kindly, charming, smiling, and above
all thlngs-wunwUling, was. the wonder
ful old gentleman who said these things
to me. The smile of Cardinal Logue
Is like a benediction, and he is almost
ever smiling. . His voice when, baited
to it 1 by cross-questioning, he gave
Utterance to some criticism of the ha
tlon which he' really admires and to
which he felt that day he owed the
"'debt of guest to host, was always thrill
- ing with -the-soft -vibrations T of a care
fully trained , speaker, and . these other
and . Jbiora wonderful vibrations . of a
man whose speech is animated by ion
vlotlons of the heart. He disliked to
ay a word in criticism of a country
which he very certainly admires for
many of Its admirable characteristics;
but, quite as plainly, on the two Sub-
Joctsiwhlch-i-conStanUy-andV- possibly
a little viciously, kept baiting him, he
felt too strongly to bev silent under firs,
v That f ours ls a beautiful country,
with a canker eating at its heart as a
worm eats at an apple's core; that we
are a wondrous people, turning to false
gods or none at all, and, therefore; to
ward destruction, Is' what -Cardinal
Logue thinks. . And he sorrows over ltt
' very plainly, very definitely, very gen
uinely sorrows over It
s -A Slstlngaishe Churchman.
Tha cardinal, Whose homej In Ire-
i land, i was, one , of the distinguished
churchmen who came to New York city
recently to participate in the great
, celebration verthe last payments-on
the mighty debt which for years had
.Diirdened the Cathedral of St Patrick.
the twin Spires of which rise beautiful,
serene, above the turmoil of Fifth ave
nue. He graciously received me twice.
- On the'occaslon of toy - first visit he
was garbed in i the sombre robes of
priesthood, and when L saw him the
second; time ;he. wore all the glory of the
'. crimson trappings Of a cardinal In the
Roman church. - Both times, he- was. re
luctant, both times he was, when urged,
..."explicit v.-''v1---; -' ': '
I almost feel that I am doing the do-
Ughtful, 'pleasant-voiced gentleman a
wrong in telling only of the things he
, sees in os which he thinks should be
condemned, because ha sees so many
things in us to ba admired, and speaks
of them . so frankly and with such
- genuine enthuslasmt but wo know our
merits know some possiblr which for
eigners .would not adjudge so meritori
ous, i It is criticism, .which, always is
most;:' interesting.
The cardinal Is short, nol fat stooped
by his years ahd jabori. , He iwa. born
in Northern' Ireland in 1840, v and .70
years, and such tremendous labors as
have been this churchman's would have
r stooped - most; laymen" more, v Indeed.
i" visot is amazing. ,, i asKea him
for the address a photographer, and,
much, to my distress, he hurried from
, the i;oom and. up, a flight 'of stairs to
get it But. he went with all the vigor
of a youth, and when, two minutes
later,; he appeared ; again, having se
cured the Information I desired he was
not breathJngwtth-Urapldity at all
above the normal. This, and his won-
oerwiiy clear skin, bright active eyes,
completely ' steady hand, told ah . im
pressive story of right and wise living.
When he spoke of us with words of
criticism his voice dropped -often, until
it came so faintly that the stenographer
who was recording what be said for me
was forced to strain his ears to catch
the 'words; when he: spoke in praise
his tones rose and his words came distinctly.-
r f:. '-' "i: : Z
H4 thinks we ar mighty people in
a mighty land; he glories in the free
dom of our Institutions and man-making
methods; he sees in us a' wondrous
mental vigor which the older nations
on the .ocean's other side may envy,
but not rival. In our public men he
discerns marvelous ability, and in our
women many admirable traits; butwe
have faults grave faults. And under
protest he spoke to me about them.
On Two Greatest faults.
Chief "of these, he thinks, is the evil
of divorce. "
Next most deplorable, he, thinks, is
the lack of religious training in our
public schools. - - - ,
A few weeks before I saw him I had
talked with- Lord Northcllffe, the
world's greatest Journalist also an
Irishman, although now a British peer.
Northcllffe had found our greatest
fault to be too much conventionality.
Cardinal Logue does not at all agree
with him. He finds our greatest 'fault
to bo too . great an independence of
those laws of God and man which he
considers necessary' to the preservation
of society,. .
. Our lax divorce laws and our ten
dency to fly to them without what to
him eeems sufficient provocation, he
thinks the greatest of our faults; to the
absence . of religious i training in our
public schools he attributes the increase
of juvenile crime, which of late .has
been so widely noted that the infamy
of it has reaohed across the seas and
to his ear. ;;;. , .
I tried, with a Derslstencv which t
afraid I carried almost to too great a
length., to get the cardinal to preach a
f-.u.vu .v jh iinsm.j' , oungregauon
which the American Sunday newspaper
unera weeKiy 10 tne men who speak
through it; but after careful thought of
the idea, he decided not to yield to my
strong urgings. It was not-becauaa4i
iacKeg material or lacksa convictions :
it was because the thought was strong
in nun ma- ne was ners, m some sense,
as tmr guest, and should not take so
great a liberty as to admonish us
m
r
how most to Influence you for good."
upon . the subject af divorce I In
duced him-to expreps hlmBelf with free
dom, though, and what hff Bald is both
of Interest and of Importance, coming
as u oes from a man of such great
eminence, a man whose whole career
attests hi brilliant Intellect and devo
tion to the causa of human uplift .
Th Svils of Divorce. '
Tour ; divorces," , he, said earnestly,
'are a disgrace, to' your great nation."
His kindlv ace took on a look of
deepest gravity and, real conoern,' He
did. not use. the word' "disgrace" with
harshness, but with the true, priestly
Inflection -of .regret and admonition,
There' are few signs-of advanced age
In his movements. Neither his. Hps nor
his hands are at tall tremulous. But
now he leaned back . In his chair his
head deep sunk between his .shoulders,
and his eyes closed. His f ace, as he
eat thus, pausing, evidently in a search
for words, war infinitely sad,." perhaps
a bit indignant, surely very full of pro
test. - ' ,.: ;i. ; i. ...
"You do not seem to have a Christian
idea .of marriage at all."' he went ? on
slowly. fl,am sorry to say such a thing
about a. people .whose - guest , I arn bul
you say you are willing to accept the
blame. I would not wish to have Amer
icans think me discourteous. Your mar
riages seem, In many cases, to bs'mere
experiments. ( What ; is it about your
people ' whlch creates ..this . state of
things? I do not know; I .cannot pos
sibly Imagine.; In this unfortunate con
dition you stand quite alone,---"-
"in Italy there has been much talk
about -uniiappy-marrlages,- and -for -a
uuie mere whb Discussion or divorce as
the one remedy. From all sides Came a
call for legislation which would permit
divorce, and flnaly laws were remanded
even in the king's speech. ; After this
such law were passed. But, In a little
while, after the nation had had time to
think about It a revulsion came. This
grew. Before long the whole country
was In fierce revolt against the institu
tion. , JKven; the free thinkers of whom
there are too many now In Italy came
out definitely In opnosition. and enough
Influence was brought to bear to kill
the evil shortly after It was born.
''Divorce! It is a dreadful thing. It
oniiaiizesj men ana degrades woman
hood. ; You must get rid o It, If you
would " prosper Iplrituallyvaha socially.
As it is, as I have said, it seems to me
that you have no proper Idea of mar
riage at all.'- The Catholic church con-
Ldemns. divorce and does not weaken, be-
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the institution. - .
Our v Marriage Experiments.
w 'Tbur Ttnawiages' i no said slowly,
seem to be experiments only, v Divorce
can end Hhenj at any time for any cause
or ror no cause. And that destroy the
family, and what; destroys the family
aesuoys society, Again I ., say. you
seem to have no Christian Idea of mar
riage at alt , - .;'., - v.-.-:
"Thera . are ' two s evils In America
which giva it, a unique distinction, and
they are not widely separated in their
character. - One of them Is the polyg
amy of the Mormons, out in Salt' Lake
City, . and the other is the polygamy
and polyandry of your other, citizens in
almost every other portion of tha coun
try, due to , this pernicious 'bossibilltv
of wholesale divorce. . Mormonlsm Is
bitterly condemned by the very folk
who most vigorously support' the other
horror; but Mormonlsm has Its advan
tages 'when compared to the" system of
polygamy which' so " obtains : in other
parts of "the TJnited States i; -
Te Mormons have a number of
wives, contrary to Christian principles:
but they look after, them and. take care
of , their children., They shirk no re
sponsibilities. The divorced man who
remarries has a number bf wives, con
trary, to Christian firlnciples, and cares
for neither them nor thelr-ehildren. I
The only dlference which I can -see be
tween tha polygamy of the divorced is
that tha Mormon's is a simultaneous
polygamy, while the divorced man's Is
a successive polygamy. Of - the two.
the first la better; but they both are
wrong all wrong!
"I am worried for . vour .wrlfun
There Is a" loosening here of the very
ties which should bind tightest. Sta
tistics show a large decrease in your
church memberships, except ia : Catho
lic church membership. Lack of church
membership it is, I think, which leads
to your ; extraordinary records of Ju
venile crime, of which I shall say, pos
sibly, a few words before, you leave.
nut divorce Is. by faf. the fcreatest
evil which you have to combat, and It
seems to be the only one of all your
evils which you are not maklnsr the
least effort to combat but'are coddllna
and encouraging, fostering and increas
ing. You cannot prosper SDirituallv or
socially while this ; Is going on. You
must get na or divorce utterly and
achieve a pr,oper Idea of marriage be
fore you can say safely that you .have
succeeded as a nation.' -. . " '. . ,j
W o Wot Know mat jKatrimony
.I- -. - - Ought to - Mean. rt
"It would appear to roe that there
are plenty of people in . America who
do not know at all what matrimony
means or should mean, - who either
never knew or have forgotten that Its
chief characteristic as an Institution is
and must be, If society is rightly to be
maintained, excluslveness. The law of
Qod and tha best Interest of naari de
mana mis. , xiiobo two things tiever
clash the law of God and the best in
terests of man. ; One la invariably the
Other.
. "The Catholic ' church condemns di
vorce becatfsa divorce is against ' the
law of Christ The church and I, and
all good Catholics, as churchmen, must
ana ao conaemn it first ror that cause.
for. its antagonism to the teachings of
all good religion. But looking at it
even from a material point of view, one
cannot find the slightest- reason for
anything except condemnation. It was
born of selfishness and lust and with
out consideration for any really worthy
thing. A divorce law is a lawless law.
Divorce Is an anarohleal Idea. . It must
be rulnoua to the welfare of the fam
ily, and the family is the foundation of
society. -
"See what occurs!, This man Is di
vorced; that .woman is divorced; they
com remarry,-and again theyseek dl
vorce and get it . The welfare of So
ciety aemanas one woman ana one
not actually occur where the existing
laws are not definitely appealed to,
tnere-ls. In the minds of both parties
to. the marriage contraot here-iri Amar
Icar the knowledge that those laws may
at some future time be appealed to,
and this mere knowledge utterly de
stroys the sense of true responsibility
in the minds of both husband an! wifa.
That sense of ahsolute responsibility is
essential to the welfare of society. -The
family , life, all family? ties, are lrre
vocably destroyed, f Divorce which : on
demand can break the ; bonds which
should be : most permanently binding,
by doing so corrupts the husbanU,,' and
leaves the children rotbed of both their
natural protectors,
lead the Children Into Loose JUves.
, .u i.uiuk uui encourage tne cnu
dren to lead loose lives In their turn.
and so the evil spreads and spreads un
til to. lengxn u reaches everywhere and
cankers everywhere. Morality, raving
vanished in the parents, must Inevita
bly vanish in the children, , unless by
the grace of God they are mlraculoasly
preserved in purity, which sometimes
happens, certainly. And by destroying
the morality of the .child ; you oobtroy
the safety of society. ! 'j, ' :s
- iivorce, therefore, is not only, con
trary to rligious laws and spiritual
laws, but Is against the best practical
Interests of t,he country.,. The two are
Interlinked to closely that one cannot
be disturbed without disturbance o tha
other; but that fact la In- these , days
frequently forgotten. Divorce is unde
niably an economical mUtake - ea ell
as a most henlous sin against religion.
It is an evil which eventually, if left
uncurbed, must utterly disrupt your
social, fabric," , , . :
. "5hen you think us. in a bad way,'
una economically? You think
that social anarchy .confronts ust"
The cardinal, who had been speaking
wm, closed eyes, his fine Old bead , sunk
petween his shoulders, raised his head
a bit, looked up at me and smiled. I
did not wonder, when I saw that smile,
at the tales which had been toldto me
of the absolute devotion his associates
feel for him. It has been said that God
gave Iteland the sweetest of his smiles,
and of all Ireland's sweet smile I feel
quite certain that this old man secured
undoubtedly the most entirely winning.
"No," said he. "Oh, no, Ido not
think that social anarehy -confronts
you. V I think that, you will , presently
correct these gra,ve mistakes which you
have fallen Into. You are a people full
of wonderful , abilities. In a -country
full of wonderful .. resources, you. have
done wonders, :and you will do ? won
ders; but before you do your greatest
wonders you mustmakejrretIon of
the worst amoiigyour errors. And this
error of divorce, I think, la the chief
among those crying, for correction. That
you. will correct it I have not the slight
eat doubt and you must.
Divorce Breeds Other Svils.
l "And when you get rid of divorce you
will get rid of certain other evils which
go hand In hand with it. Easy divorce
breeds, looseness all along the--lines and
iiwitn. your, mixed population looseness Is
more dangerous even than It is in other
countries where the (blood Is not so
mixed. .The non-Catholics among your
Ignorant are doing jfety badly by you."
"Lord Northcllffe,, visiting here re
cently, told me tbat;we were the White
Chinese,"', ald, Rasing his strange
characterisation on what he called ur
slavUh worship of conventionality."
VI. would not call you that." said Car
dinal Logue, and took the sting out of
his words by another of those wondrous
smiles, 'lie may havijbeen.jiulte right
in thinking that some of your ills come
from the introduction of so great a for
eign mixture I do. not know about thatj
but I am not certain Tie was right in
calling you the 'White Chinese,' for in
marriage and divorces lawsOChlna is
ahead of you. ? -v, ';-..,;.,:, ,
"The Chinese people carry out their
ideas by the light of reason, don't you
see? - Divorce, as you have it In America,
does not exist there, I am told, and they
have one extremely wise provision which
you lack. There are no marriages of
relatives in China, The Chinese man, I
am informed, cannot even marry a girl
from, the village he lives In. He must
choose his bride from some point distant
from his home It : prevents consant
gulnity in marriages, and even that I
- i
am lnrormeu, is sometimes tolerated by i
your civil laws and Dy certain of your,
clergy, " Not even third couBins ean be
married in the Catholio church without
a dispensation. ' 'i. :" '.'-': ,j,V' '.i "
"This habit oi divorce, which has '.be
come so common In America, will if it
is not corrected br you in the jyjurse of
time from the right to claim so high a
title as the 'White Chinese It is and
must be destructive to the morals of
both husband and wife, it makes the
children practicaly illegitimate' and robs
them of both parerita It may be worse
than Illegitimacy in effect; fof illegiti
macy may teach a child that sin must
parry with it punishment, which is a
useful lesson; . On the contrary, under
the system which obtains ljere. tae child
may well assume that Sin does a not
bring punishment, but Is sanctioned by
the law and by the customs of the Coun
try. Then what will be that child's
course later on in life? A course of
tawleeness. beyond a doubt" .:'',V: kVr'V
Ho Tendency Toward Xasiw Divorce,
I asked the cardinal If there was any
tendency Ih Ireland or England toward
easier divorce, and , he unhesitatingly
replied that there was none. v ;
"There are few dlvoroea in England,"
he went on. ; 'Tiecause. divorce there is
so difficult and so expensive None but
tha very rich can posBlbly afford this
sin, and that la a good thing. In Ire
land there are even- less. There are
practically no' divorces there at all. It
requires a . long and costly litigation
there to break the bonds which should
not ever be permitted to he broken, ex
cept in circumstances so extremely
rare that they need scarcely be consid
ered. And this discourages the thought
of breaking them. . As long as vthls
thought , does .not commonly exist the
happiness, the - real Integrity of homes,
is very much conserved..
- "It is .the knowledge that divorce Is
easy that makes wives and husbands
prone to err. It puts temptatlonln
their wsy, They yield." Such Is the
way of human nature. Where divorce
is easy immorality will spread Increas
ingly, Inevitably. i J
"Unfortunately, there is at present a
commission sitting in England which
has under consideration amendments to
the divorce laws; but we all hope they
will not - make them less rigid than
they : are now. It would be a great
calamity to the' whole kingdom If they
were , to do so. The opposition to . a !
change ia rvery "strong, 'and. is confined ,
by no means to the Catholics. Even
the lawyers, many of them, realise that
loosening of the divorce laws, while it
would breed business for them, also
would breed trouble for the social fab
ric; and so they, too, oppose the idea.
"To an Irish churchman . the condi-'
tlons existing In America - cannot be
otherwise than horrifying. In some
ways you may have progressed worthily
beyond the older nations, but in some
ways you have retrograded." , : y' vi :
Not . long before I met the cardinal I
had been talking with another man of
eminence , upon the subject of the in
crease in our cities of young Criminals.
I mentioned this to Cardinal Logue.
He made a gesture of real horror. It
was" as if the thought of something he
had heard or read upon the subject had
been brought into his mind and filled
It with revolt.,-- , t ' . ' ' ';
;"':-:v;v-'Toung' ciimtaaJfc'f V'z'y'
"I know little of the slums of either
London or New York; r; he said,, 'but; I.
have heard about the youthful, crlml-,
nals whom you . are breeding here in
yours, In that you are like Paris.
Paris also shows a shocking increase in
the number of" young criminals a
shocking change for worse in the vari
ety of crimes In whloh they are discov
ered. .: ..v;;'..,l;.'-::.;.,!
' "These young and vicious sinners are
the product of the Godless schools In
both America and. France. .v. Your youth
are - turning into, criminals- because Of
Godless education. To this more than
to any, other thing I wouldffttribute the
whole-increase-lh America of crimes of
violence . among both young . and old,
and in this I do not stand alone. . I
have read charges-by vyour Judges and
statements made by -men of eminence
in . the . United States . who believe that
young offenders , are the product pure
and simple, of a - school aystem which
eliminates religious ' training. And
young ef f enders growing to maturity,
become often the most dangerous and
violent of criminals.
-Crime tt not increasing everywhere.
It is not increasing, for example, in old
Irelahd. It Is not increasing anywhere
Wi.ere "Children are Instructed properly
to fear God and conduct themselves on
Christian principles. , -;i f
."Precoctousness in crime is not a
natural developmentrof the century; It
Is directly , the result or ine impious
banishment of God's name tncf 0it
teachings from the places , wlipr t:i
young are given their preparation fr
their battle with the world.
"I had much of my education in
Paris, and in those days Parts streets
were . not made perilous by youthful,
murderers and thieves. Today, I am
Informed, the situation there is very
dreadful and baa been becoming wors,j
with evory day since' the banishment
of the religious orders and the aboli
tion of religious training In the schools.
It is pot long since two boys there, not
more than It years of. age, I . think,
killed a whole family. - - V j
"Ireland , : has some things which
properly may be -regretted, but, , thank
God, this increase, of depravity amon?
the young' Is not of r them. We have
young criminals, but ' by comparison,
their sins are petty theft and things
of that sort c-nly.; Our Irish", boys ar.
mischievous thy may break windows
now andthen, but they do. not do mur
der. It Is the teaching of the church,
and" that alone, which makes this true.
''No; America cannot expect to pros
per, as she easily and properly might
prosper, till she learha that marriage is
a holy institution and that righteous
ness is vital simong the , things which
must be taught the young." '
The cardinal's fine eyes took on the
sternness of the prophet as he closed
with this prediction, tfnd the fire Btlll
hung there as he bade me goodbye.
Many File Expense List?,
(S1pci Burenu of The lournal.)
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exponded 11407,3(1 inbehalf of Candi
dates on the non-political Judiciary baj
lot in the primary campaign, The money
was contributed by candidates and oth
ers Interested in the. welfare of the
ticket . .
Clyde T. Hackett, candidate for Joint
representative, spent $99,05, . George N.
Farrin, candidate for Joint .representa
tive from Coos and . Curry counties,
spent $2,0.15 5. T. Pierce, candidate' for
Joint representative from, the same dis
trict, spent $69.75., Alex -Stewart can
didate f or ' Joint representative from
Hood River and Wasco counties, spent
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resentative, from ' the same, district,
spent $8. Henry D. Reed, candidate for
Joint representative from Douglas and
Jackson, spent $4, L
teous. I must not preach to you as a
return for all your kindnesses. Be
sides, you have among you able man
who know yOu better, and who far bet
ter understand how best to talk to you.
You have been very kind to me here 1 man to everyfamllYibut-jiUh-niiJ
-UwmeffcH-eeNr-ne, la practiced in
America, there comes before long not
one family for every pair but, an sir
gregatlon, of families, The. family
longer is a unit
"Disastrous! And where divorce does
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That new carpet you , have been
needing can be had now. at & good
saving. The carpets are all orthe
newest design' and come in variety
of .oriental and floral patterns Laid
on your floor with a good lining at
the special price of 1.35.
Cash or CreditTerms to Suit
This Heavy $6.50 lronBed $U5
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Terms to Suit ;
A strong, .well-made . bed,
ejiameledcreamand.goldand
' green and gold full and three-
quarter size. Has heavy angle
: iron head; and foot ends, high
' Finished - with three ; coats of
glossy enamel. ' -.-
Massive $55.00
Quartered Oak
Dressers, $19.85
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Terms to Suit:
Made of selected quartered oak,
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grade construction. ;,
This Large
$15 heater
$9.95
Cash or Credit,;
. Terms to Suit
This heater has nickel
top rim and fenders,
polished steel body,
cast iron base and fire
box, swings . top will'
take 16-inch fuel 35
inches- high. " - w ,
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