THE OREGON SUNDAY, JOURNAL. . PORTXAND, SUNDAY MORNING, NOVEMBER 21. 10Q9.
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Ring i Track
Held t Diamond
fflWIIG CHOPS IfJOGUlS 10 ,0EET
SilC) DOLilll BEST
.GUARD III YEARS
GRAMMAR GAMES
, Millie CLOSE
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Lightweights and Heavies
Will Decide Title in
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'MARVELOUS PLAYER WHO IIELPEP HUMILIATE HARVARD
HIV PLACES AGII THIS WEEK
Mnnv' -Fans': Visit .Workout With JfcCrodiM Against
Former Oregon Aggy Star
Onarfers of Rosr Citv Outlawry Kult Will Be
3Iakes.BigMRei" iu ' '
Indiana.
Club Boxers.
Watched With Interest.
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The rat-a-tat-tat of the punching bag
and the dull thud of the sandbag inter
ipered with the elug of the Mr. pillow
Ilk glovea, h drawn scores of those
Inclined to the manly art to the train
ing quarter of the four boiers who are
preparing to entertain the members of
the Rose City Athletla club, November
0. tn , Exposition rink. Owing to Ita
i r.earness the camp of Gene Sullivan and
! Jot'key Btmnett ha probably been via
tet mora often tlftn that pf Eddie Oerf
and Eddte Couture, on the east aide.
Those, who have seen the quartet In
. training da not heaiiate to aar that
little Bennett la thfl rlassleat boxer of
the lot. Being the oldest of the bunch
and the -moat experienced this la nat
tiral. Bennett Is a miniature Tommy
Burns. lie and Sullivan bare been do-
Some time during the week the mo
mentous question or Portland a po"l-
tlon In the baseball world will be an
swered.
Judge McCredle and Nephew Walter
will meet with the magnates of the
Northwestern league to talk over the
expulnlon of the junior league from
Portland. Just what action will be
taken la In doubt
There Is a disposition on the part of
aome fane to feel that the Northwest
ern league will turn .outlaw and put a
team la Portland, backed by local cap.
tail ma. Any number of financially i
fixed parties here would be only too
glad to go Into the outlaw game and
make a. bid for local patronage.
On the other hand the supporters of
the Coast league In Its present status,
Jng their training together and despite ,ooh-Doob the Idea, of outlaw ball and
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fellow tears Into. Gene. Ike a Jungle cat
lie has some punch too, and Sullivan
' winces every once In a while on the
other end of the Jockey 'a fist '
dene Taxes Off Weight.
Sullivan will take off a lot of weight
before he meets Toung Corf. Gene la
in the best condition of. his life right
now and his two years In California
have worked -wonders with his style.
He is stronger than ever and has grown
aulte a bit since here last In fact he
looks almost as big as his brother Pan.
many having taken hlro for Pan on the
streets. '-.--' . ' .' -''--
Couture bears no, resemblance to his
amateur condition,, and he was '. some
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ascribe the bad land murmurlngs of
many of the Portland fans to super
charged animosity against the south.
ernera.
With the fans feverishly arguing the
point pro and con, the man moat vitally
concerned sits back reminlscently and
laughs when you mention the little fra-
cas that occurred in san Francisco.
The judge will do nothing until he con
verses with his co-moguls from the
north,.
The judge has no outlaw blood cours
ing through his arteries. Walter has
more paprika 4a his veins, but even he
has expressed a sentiment against out
lawry. With these two figures looming up
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THESE SEVENTY YARD PUNTS ALL IMAGINATION
- These 50 and SO and 70 yard punts may take place on the gridiron oc
casionally, but tney are mighty scarce If the average distance punted tn
almost any football 'game is correctly reported.
Take the records of the punting as found in college publications, and
the other newspapers and the average distance will be found to Vary
from 0 to 40 yards. An average of 40 yards Is bigger than usual, so
It la. evident that kicks, of, 50 .yards are few and far between.
'To the spectator it appears as if the kicks were' going-around 60
yards, when In reality they may be averaging not more than 85 yaras. The
distance gained on, a punt Isn't measured from where It la kicked, but
from where the ball Is put In play, a matter, of from eight to 10 yaras
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ready Talking of 'Radical
. Changes Next Season.
New, York, Nov. JO. Now that the
football season is practically ended,
comes the report of further changes in
the rules for next season, the object be
ing to lessen the danger to players. For
several years there has been more and
more tendency for open plays as the
open play is, attended , by less danger
than the mass plays where the players
pile up in a tumbled, heap.
Just what these changes are is not
known now, but the fear that soccer
may succeed Rugby . will lead to some
radical suggestions. To keep' up . the
old tradittons; strenuous efforts always
will be made to retain the prestige of
Rugby by lessening the dangers of the
game every year until the death list is
entirely eliminated and the injured list
Is also considerably abated. ...
Interest In the tail end of the season
was considerably lessened this year
over the absence of the navy-army
game.: But notwithstanding the loss of
this tussle. It Is announced that the
army team will be in the field with a
full schedule fornext year. .-The-only
effect that the :s death of Cadet Byrne
had on the game was to change some' of
thiarrangementa for next year.
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Pitcher Steen Not' Expected
to Stay Long with the
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New gridiron honors have been won
by Samuel Pdlan. playing with Notre
Pame university, Ind. lie Is a former
star player at the Oregon Agricultural
college and while playing In this state,
won great renomn for hla areaalve-
neaa In the game. Tins la nis lourm
year on the Notre Dam team and lie
s classed by critics as on of the best
uarda. In the west
The Notre Pame team la expected to
win the championship of Indiana. She
defeated the University of Michigan by
score of 11 to I. which In turn won
from the University of Pennsylvania,
li to .. This la what Hese Clark In
the. Terr Haute Star ha a to say of
Polan: . ;
'The real strength of tha Catholloa'
line is la the guards. Polan, who. If 1
remember right, waa playing football
at Notre Dame In . the days when I
played at Indiana, la still In the lineup.
The giant is faater and better than
ever. lie la at present the' beat guard
In the state.' No man can - play guard
as Polan can.- There hare been some
great guards In the past years among
the colleges of Indiana, such as Suther
land of Wabash, King of Purdue, Pike
and Mendenhall of Indiana, but these
men do not play like Polan of Notre
Pame does this season. He Is a power
on defense and Longman also uses him
on offense. Captain Edwards Is a fit
partner for Dolan. Edward Is big and
fast. He has wonderful strength In his
hands and never misses a tackle. Ed
wards Is probably as good aa any guard
In the state with the exception of Po
lan. his teammate." ... ,
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nun mi ciiampitinaiiip iq iQt miugir
wrlilit dlvlalon already wurr by KlluW
oonirats fur the honors tn the light and
heavyweight dlvtalona In the Grammar
School Football league will continue
throughout the currrnt weuk.
Eliot won the championship In the
middleweight class from Biickman last
Thursday on Multnomah field,- by the
score of 1ft to 0. No more game are
to be played In ihls division,
In the light f weight division Holla-
day and Shattuck'are fighting It out
ror supremacy. They are playing for
the best two out of three games. Uul-
laday won the first game of this series
last week and the second lame will be
played Tuesday. 'If Hoi laday wins this
game she will cinch the championship,
but If Shattuck carries away the hon
ors another game will be played to de
cide the .championship.
In the heavywelg.it division the first '
game will be played Monday on Mult
nomah, field. . . t '. . . '.
' The contenders are the Monta villa and
Highland schools. There are also te
be three games played la this class, the'
winner of two taking the cup. '
. Credit for the reentry of Highland
In the league is due Professor Krohn,
as this team drew out of the league
early In the season along with the Ar
leta and Ir'vlngton - teams. ' Thla left
Monti villa alone In the heavyweight di
vision. Through the efforts of Mr.
Krohn and Principal Draper of the Shat
tuck school, this division has reorgan
ised and la again a part of the league.
Captain Ted Coy of Yale, whose playing resterday was the feature of the great Yale-Harvard . game.
Coy's wonderful kicking andgreat offensive work gave the Blue a decisive victory.
FMS AWAIT THANKSGIVING GAMES
PORTLAND TWIRLER
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Bioomington, HI., Nov. 20. Pitcher
William Steen, drafted by Portland from
Bioomington, ranks with the best In the
Three Eye league and there Is mourning
in this city over bis departure.
Steen was with Toledo in 1908. but
owing to a surplus of .talent was turned
over to Bioomington and his work dur
ing the recent season has been sensa
tional. The only thing that m!lltatl
against his purchase by the " majors,
was the. fact that he had been with
Toledo and had gone down a ' peg.
Whoever tipped 'Steen to McCredle
knew his business and without a doubt
selected the livest t wirier in the Three
Eye. If Steen and the coast climate
agree, he will put up an exhibition of
pitching that will open optics.
He has terrific speed, perfect con
trol, and, above all, has the brains,
playing every batter and being familiar
with all points of the a-acre. H is re
garded as the strongest box artist that
has evet; appeared in a Bioomington unl-
lorm ana Portland . will- hot keep him
long. v ' i o . h. .. .
Steen was well satisfied with his
treatment here and had planned to re
main here next season. His draft by
Portland upset his own plans and those
of the Bioomington management and it
is well recognized here that it will be
difficult to replace him.
McCredle also was tipped First Base
man Melcholr of Bioomington, but
claimed that he could not use him. He
may wisn Derore next season Is over
that he had grabbed him when he had
the chance. Melcholr ranked among the
first Backers as high . as Steen dP.
among the box artists.
By Sportsman,
With Idaho, Whitman and O. A. G
eliminated from the championship race,
the Only " thing that prevents .the
Thanksgiving day contest at , Seattle
between the Universities of Oregon and
Washington from being a title bearer is
the murmur of protest that comes from
the clump of hills that surrounds the
town of Pullman and shelters Washing
ton State college. ...
While -Washington university' has
been impregnable against the foes .with
which her team has clashed, there is
no surety -hat Washington State col
lege win-be an easy victim. The in
land, empire school looks wonderfully
strong and it is their misfortune that
they have but two conference games on
their schedule. They had little trouble
in defeating Idaho by a score of IT to
0, arid while this does not loom as
large as the 60 points rolled up by the
University of ; Washington against the
same team at Spokane, the conditions
under which the game was played in
dicates that had the field been dry, the
score would have been much larger.
Crashes Taoom Team.
.Whitman played Whltworth college
last : week in a game In which neither
Side succeeded in making a score. Wash
ington State played the same team this
week and crushed the Tacoma machine
by a score of 38 to 0. This roughly in
dicates the relative strength of Whit
man and W. S. C. and as the university
succeeded In beating-whitman by only
17 points, it looks very much as though
W. S.'C .had developed a team this year
that is fully as good as the one put
out by their Seattle rivals. .
Last year, W. S. C was the only
stumbling block to Washington's clear
Claim to the - championship. Tha game
played by these two great teams last
year, resulted in a 6-6 .score. Neither
team scored a touchdown,- but each side
succeeded in getting a goal from the
field and a safety. It is doubtful if
any other two teams have ever secured
six points in the same game in Just
the same way. -
line 'is , Powerful.
The Washington. State line is doubt
less the. most powerful of any of the
conference ' -colleges, and ' their back
field . has , Bhown considerable class.
From the standpoint of good sport, it
is hoped that , these two great teams
will clash In a post-season game.
The two games that will be roost ab
sorbing from an Oregonian standpoint
are those to be played in . Seattle and
.Portland on Thanksgiving day. 'When
the University f Oregon Journeys to
Seattle to pit their strength and. skill
against ' Dobie's machine, they will
carry the best wishes of the whole state
with them. A victory tn ; Seattle will
be a splendid achievement and all of
the friends f the-university and even
their rivals at O. A. C., are hoping that
Forbes men will annihilate the Seattle
team and destroy ita championship pre
tensions. .V -.-''V-'. :- '
' That is one good thing about the
spirit that exists between the. state col
lege and the university. -While their
rivalry is as keen and Intense aa any
rivalry . could possibly be, they are
sportsmen enough to be anxious that
either, state team should win when go
ing against an alien foe.
Was Ko Giving "Cp. X
The game last Saturday at Corvallis
when O. A. C. fought its greats fight
against the Washington giant , team
every player won a place In the hearts
of. the student body that, even defeat
could not affect,' Every player fought
to his limit and there was no such
thing as giving up until the rlnal
whistle had blown. ' t
The game that is scheduled :- for
Thursday between O. A. C. and the
Multnomah club will doubtless be as
big an , event athletically, as the con
test scheduled for the same time In
Seattle. Many followers of football In
, Portland ' are . anxious to see the . team
that has been developed In the Penn
sylvania system and has given such a
good account of itself this year. .
The game .played last year between
these two great teams was one of the
finest conte8tsseen on the northwest
gridiron last year. It was the climax
of the season for O, A. C. and .In this
contest all their trick playa and brll
llant strategic moves that N had been
saved were turned loose to beat the
club. ;
Barer to Be verse.
This year the game with the Mult
nomah club will be O. A. C.' last op
portunity and the collegians are eager
to .reverse last year's defeat It will
be a splendid holiday spectacle, this
RUBY ROBERTS NEPHEW MAY FILL UNCLE'S BOOTS ,
Ban Francisco, Nov. 20. A nephew of Bob Fltsstmroons,, 1 former
champion of the world. Is cutting a wide swath In New Zealand, and so-,'
cording to all' accounts Is likely to follow In the footsteps of his famous
uncle. - ' ' ''
,FitssImmons Jr. Is described as a likely looking lad, five foot 11 Incbea
tall and weighing 164 pounds. , .'" , ' .
He has remarkably broad shoulders and a long reach. He is a black
smith and only 17 years old
In bis last fight at Timaru. he knocked a fighter named McCabe cold
and used the regulation Fitssimmons shift when doing It He is not like-"
ly to be seen in the ring for quite a while unless he breaks away from
parental restraint His people have refused, to let hlra enter Into another
match until he reaches his twentieth year., " .
f- Those who have seen him in action ay he will startle the world
some of these days. ' - - ' '
COAST LEAGUE 10.
SUFFER BIB LOSS
Boys Turned Down by Cali-
fornians Become stars A
in Major Leagues.
STORIES CROP UP
0UACKI61DGE
team of young and eager athletes repr
esenting ; the best that their college
has to offer, striving to wrest the
laurels ; from their heavier, older and
more experienced opponents.
The club team' will be at its" best;
they develop more slowly than college
players and all of their efforts are
bent toward winning their Thanksgiv
ing day 'game. All other - games are
mere 'incidents but the holiday contest
Is the one big event in club athletic
circles. As college closes at O. A. C.J
Wednesday, a large delegation will ac
company the team to Portland and wlf-
riiwlil Diana trh to The Journal.)
San Francisco, Nov.: 20. Though the
Pacific Coast league managed to whip
the California, outlaws . Into line and
gain a great victory for organised ball,
it has cost tnem dearly. Every player
who waa with the State league at the
Hoo-inninw nf tin pnn and who Jumped
to the Coast league musx revert oat
ness the Turkey, day contest.
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Highlanders at Houston.
..The New York American baseball
team . will likely train at Houston,
Texas, next spring. 'Negotiations are
pending which Will be settled up with
out' delay. ;
Freddie Welsh by defeating Johnny
Summers has placed himself in line for
battle with Battling Nelson.
XEWBERG HIGH ELEVEN
BEATS FOREST GROVE
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Forest Grove, Or.. Nov, 20-Th NW.
berg High school defeated th Forest
Grove High school on the university
gridiron this afternoon bya 17 to 0
score. The local boys put up a plucky
fight, but - the weight and arrrln,-i
of the visitors was too mueh for them.
Captain Mowe of the Forest OrdV
aggregation was the star of the game. I
The climax of the contest . occurred I
when, with one minute to fclav before I
the end of the game, Newberg's quarter
received a local man's end kick and ran
0 yards for a touchdown.
ALFRED VANDERBILT'S FAMOUS COACH, VTSXTURE
SAILORS WILL PLAY
FOR TITLE IX XWT
The football championship of the
t'nlted States navy will toe decided on
Wednesday .at Washington Fark, Brook
lyn, and a pretty fight is in store for
the Jacklea of the opposing teams. Two
elevens, enve taken from the crew of the
Nebraska and the other from the crew
of the Hancock, will -meet upon the
gridiron. In the last game between the
aame two teams a tie score resulted.
A marine band will be on hand and
some excellent sport Is In tpr.
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BASEBALL 3IAGXATES
Fer weka the wewrpeper ! both
the eeet mr,i wet and all wer ever
tr.K,a ftwuH )a ha fitted wttn
torlea atmut the move eVthroee
lre!,jeTit John Hrdlr of the National
M-eme. Howerer, Hrdler'a frlr4a
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tenf i"j fcsrd rwre d, "i' the w "ft-- lcrra trtui Armw Hrs4 Its to JUif'n tisre Crin.
Crart'i trr-b if n !a the tafVgifrzl '
to the former outlaw organisation at
the 'beginning of the next season.
This will affect, every 'team in the
Coast league with the exception of Port
land and Los Angeles, neitner or wnico
Invaded the coop of the enemy,
San Francisco, will suffer most. The
Seals lose such good men as Red Davis,
the? left fielder, and Bull Purham, the
heady pitcher who practically won the
pennant by getting away wun tne majority-of
his games after Joining the
team. From the Oakland team, the out
law will sret. Shortstop Terry McKune
and Outfielder Kelly;, two of the main
stays of the team. Sacramento will have
to yield up First liaseman Ganau, rucn
er Fitzgerald and Catcher Hackett, Who
was originally awarded to the ' league
club. Vernon will nave to part who
Pitcher Vance and Outfielder Caffyn.
This means that the Coast league will
be so much weaker and that its tnana
gers will have to spend Just that much
more money In bringing other players
from the east to fill the places of those
lost to them by this latest baseball com
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.''May. Cause Trouble. -
- There Is liable to be serious trouble
over this ruling before next season is
ushered In. . The State league win- be
lust as strong' as It was at the. begin
nlng of last season, as all the players
on its reserve list wui . nave io piay
there or not at all. -.V--..V.,
That the teams of the Coast league
overlook all kinds of live youngsters
is being shown the fans every day since
the arrival of the Athletics and AH-Na-
tlqnals. - There are a bunch of Callfor-4
nla youngsters, all starring with these
clubs. None of thera could get a chance
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Principal among them Is Walter John
son, the best young pltrher In the Am
erican league. He tailed Hen Berry
for a year, but was .turned down. He,
went to the American league and soon
became a star. Then there Is Harry
Krause. the southpaw of the Athletics,
who could not land with San Francisco.
Now he'a getting 15000 a year.
Big Chief Myers comes from River
side, Cel., but none of the Coast teams
wanted him. Neither did they care about
Dirk F.jran, whom the Cincinnati club'
refuaed to sell to Brooklyn for 110.000.
Now all three men are having their
chance to show the Coast league mag
nates up and they are surely doing It
te tbe queen's Uste.-
SKATE CTLVMPS WILL
CUT ICE THIS WINTER
The International Skating union of
Eurnr-e has anonunced the following
werld s championship events which are
to be deride 1 during the. coming season:
The world's speed exatlng cr.amplon-
ahip. t Holtog"iorm, rmiano. on .Marco
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Th Kunipe-an . speea tir rnam
pionehirte. l Klarerfurt. 8 wltaerland.
OA January J ani J.
Tle or)4 figure akatlng thwuflos
ah.a. at lirnt, on January tt and 1.
awd tbe Euror-n f'-rre abating rham.
r'.cra'r. a January 23 and 11. at Ber
lin. Oerraany. -
Clarence. McDowell Was Fa
mous Figure at All Big
Stake Races.
New Tork. Nov. 20-Maay are the
stories which have been told - along
Broadway in the past- week 'about the
late Clarence McDowell as thousands
knew him, who was found: dead In his
apartments In the Waldorf hotel, Since
1894 when the Jockey club assumed
control of racing In the east, Mr. Mc
Dowell was the presiding judge at the
local,' trackSi'':.:iV:" ' 'f.v !.: .' ,'::''. 'i
Every race of lmportance"ievery stake
worth thousands of dollars, .all the bril
liant .victories of Sysonby, Colin., and
others of the famous Keene stable, the
Belmont stable, tbe Walden stable And
the Whitney .stable has 'been run un
der his Jurisdiction as Judge.
He saw Imp in her glory, Hamburg
when he-made his great 2-year-old cam
paign and hundreds of other celebrities
which " have made the American turf -
famous and it was he who, in every in
stance, decided the .winner,-;j-v!i4;.'
Strangely enough; the. eastern racing
season should terminate simultaneous--
ly with : the death of this pa troh. Up J
until the time of his death McDowell
was in the stand at Aqueduct --For..
some time he complained of feeling 111
and had planned a long trip through
the south and west, for this Winter to
vlBlt all the great tracks'' of America
and Mexico. ' . , , v
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center ta the AHBuai OrES&-Oreff3B
Arricultaral ccllers game at Eogene '
Friday. He la said to be one of the
tfft men on the Atfry line ac4 CoaIi
Metrser thinks tlsh of fcita.. H
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