THE OREGON DAILY JOURNAL; PORTLAND. FRIDAY , EVENING, AUGUST 23. 1007. ' v -C MILLMEN SAY PROFITS . HAVE NOT INCREASED Lumber Manufacturers Give Their Side of Controyersy : With Railroads and Declare That Eastern Sales Ilave Often Been Made at Loss. f '. 4 J 1 ; By Thoma McCusker. , A few days ago the statement ' V mad and printed that the ruton the i; railroads were attempting to advance I'the eastbound lumber rate wa because . they wanted a division of the spoils, or, In other words, they believed that the ' millmen mere making too much money, . and they wanted aome of it, and not because the present rates war not euf- flclently remunerative. It was asserted then that thera wat a logging combine that controlled not only the price of loss, but the output as well, and whenever the price of logs advanced $1 per thousand feat, the millmen added 12 to the prlca of lum ber. This Is denied by the millmen. They ay that the legitimate differential be tween the price of logs and ' lumbar Is $1.60 per thousand feet, based on an es tablished rate, wiu say, or liO lot iocs, but only the further advance In too firlce of lore 1s added to the price of umber; consequently, so far aa the millmen are concerned, they do not re alise an additional' benefit from the ad vanoe in the price of -logs and lumber, while the railroads would receive an additional profit -should they be suc cessful in their enorts to advance rates of freight The millmen state positively, and of fer their books aa proof, that they have filled foreign orders at loss in order to keep their mills running and give em ployment to their men. Deny That Is Combine. They say "further that there is no combine among the millmen, and-that the Retail Uiraber association, which once flourished here, has gone out of existence, add 'that any on can buy lumber direct from tha mills without having to pay tribute to the middlemen. They deny that there la a loggers' combine, but adrp.lt that there la a "gentlemen's agreement" among the loggers to restrict the output and keep up the price. With very few exceptlonl the loggers Own the 'timber and are man who have already ,made a great deal of monev. consequently are in a position to dictate terms to th mill men. The logger who does not own timber, but who buys on a atumpage basis, finds that tha price , has ad vanced from (0 cents a few years ago to aa high as 12.(0 per thousand feet now. One millman, who operates his own logging camps, says that it cost him $4.16 per thousand to log bis timber, in addition to oost of stumpage, and with tha price of logs from St to til. he aays, there is not much in it for the logger who does not own his timber. Be that aa It may, the men who sup ply th logs at the 'present time are mostly men of means, and any advanee on lumber will not affect -them, bat will seriously Injure th millmen or the man ufacturers. Another thing to be taken Into eon Slderatlon is that th Dries of labor at tha mill has advanced about per cent in tne last rour years, one millman say lng that he has increased bis payroll at least n per cent witmn in last year, This of course, is made necessary by in increased cost or living. Lumber Gtoes Outside, It Is asserted that from 75 to 90 per cent of tha manufactured lumber goes to outside markets, and thai th money comes into ioruana ana is expenaea in wages, etc, and after th legitimate running expenses are paid. If any sur plus is ti it is inveetea in Portland property, so that all th profit flows Into the nnanoiai currents hers at home. This argument Is good and worthv of ( consideration, and even if it should hap f pen that a little more than a fair profit . was made, the fact that tha money clr T culates here for one purpose or another ! benefits the city In some form; conse quently there are no grounds to take sides against ths millmen, or even remain in different as to th outcome of the fight, t for. It Is a moral certainty that, should J th railroads win, the publio will have to pay the bill. f Some one has said that the high price i' of lumber restricts the building indus r try. Now, this is very questionable. ' Look back a few years for oroof to the contrary. At no time in the history of - Portland or any other city during a de- Jiresslon was there any extensive build ng operations, but on the contrary everyone was afraid to invest, and I re member during the strenuous times fol lowing the panio of 1893. every man owning property counseled his friends not to build, as there was no profit In -owning a house, and there was no build ing done. This Is true of every flurry in the money market. The difference In the country then and now Is so ' 1 1 ii marked, that there cannot be a financial reverse, unless the men overloaded with money get panicky, or for some reason those who largely control the monev market hava an object In view In forc ing a panio on the country. Oregon Za Mob. In 18DS Oregon was poor, very poor, and the Portland banks had on deposit about 118.000,000. Today Oregon Is rich, for population and area under cul tivation, the richest state in the union, and many- times richer than older and more densely populated states, and Portland banks have deposits aggregat ing at least $76,000,000. This being true, why should there be any cessation of building operations, and as ay matter Of fact there Is not I have been In formed that the amount of lumber go ing Into a frame building Is about 13 per cent of the total cost. This will make the lumber.ln a 16,000 house cost 1600, and as the price of common lum ber rules from 913 to $16 per thousand, and the better grades from $17 to $30. It will be safe to aasume that the aver age cost Is about $20, which will show that It will reaulre $0,000 feet of lum ber for such a house. Now if the price of lumber was advanced $2 of even $$ per thousand, the additional cost of such a house would be only $60 or $90. and certainly no one will argue for a mo ment that this difference will deter any person from building. This refers to ocai oonaiuuns. Does Mot Apply to East. Tha sama losla cannot be aDDlled to the eastern consumer, aa he la compelled to pay In addition to the advance In the price of lumber, the contemplated ad vance in rates. The average weight on rough lumber Is 3,300 pounds per 1 000 feet. Consequently an advance of 10 cents per 100 pounds makes an advance in price of the lumber of $3.$0 per 1,000 feet Take this, with the advance of ft or $1 above referred to, and the eastern consumer Is up against an ap proximate ad vanoe of from $6 to $9 fier thousand. And when this la taken nto consideration, that Oregon lumber must comDete with southern cine, one can readily see that tha millmen of ths coast stand a good chanoe to lose a trade which has taken them years to build up. The reason for ths railroads advanc ing the rate has been discussed from all sides. Tha railroads claim that the present rate Is not remunerative, as it wss made at a time when they were hauling empty cars east and they wanted full loads for their cars. This is not true, and the railroads cannot produce any records to sustain their contention. As I said In a former ar ticle, it has not been more than two years since Jim Hill informed the Inter state commerce commission that If he had loads for his westbound cars he could make a better rate on lumber east bound, as the eastbound rate carried with it the cost of hauling the empty car west. Now. that the volume of wtstbound business has greatly In creased, the reason given will not stand Investigation. Champion of XaUroada. A gentleman In Seattle, a former sec retary of the lumber association, and who seems to be now posing aa a cham- MYRTLE TIPTOH IS MARRIED TO LEROY Romance Commenced When Girl Was in Trison for Horse Stealing:. (Special DUpatrh to Toe Journal.) Walla Walla. Wash., Aug. 13. A ro mance that started while the bride an Inmate of the state penitentiary ter minated yesterday In the marriage of Mvrtl. Tlnton. tha Colfax rlrl. who served two years for horse stealing, and James Le Koy, well known In Walla Walla. Hlnce her release from the prison Miss Tipton has been stopping with friends In Walla Walla and Col fax, her old home. Yesterday Le Roy and Miss Tipton secured a license from Auditor McCaw and shortly afterward walked over to the courthouse, where they were married by Judge lirenta. A few. attaches around the courthouse and newspaper men witnessed th cere mony. Miss Tipton's rase attracted a great deal of attention at the time she was arrested and sentenced to the peniten tiary. She stole her father's team and. masquerading as a boy, drove down through Columbia county to Walla Walla, where she disposed of th horses, fine was trailed by the Whitman county authorities and finally arrested and taken back to Colfax. Bhe was con victed of horse stealing, her father prosecuting the case, and sentenced to two years. Bhe was lately pardoned by uovernor Mas a. 'The Quality Block on Furniture Rdw . . j ' !l . . . . ,. . i. i 1 . 4.. I- a i i . nrit street n decorated with numerous furniture itores. in tact me turnuure puying puouc ioon upon mis ouay meet as the furniture section. It would blind mWa senses to attempt to count the vartous tores doing business under tiwP j head of "Carpets and Furniture." Right in the center of this furniture district ana towering neaa and shoulders ab6ve them all is the house of "I. Gevurti & Sons," the recognized "Quality" establishment of Portland and of the northwest SPECIAL FEATURES FOR SATURDAY'S SELLING WANTED HER PLACE BACK AND GOT IT Tempest Sweep Tacoma School Hoard, and Mrs. Rice, Poetess, Is Also a Principal Again. ?lon for tne railroads, severely rebukes he millmen and tells them that had they refrained from antagonising the railroads by agitating hostile legislation the railroads would not think of advanc ing the lumber rates. This confirm what I said about the reason given by the railroads for the Advance. It shows that they merely want to retaliate, which Is very reprehensible action, and the courts certainly will not abet them. Others say that owing to the shortage of cars, and the fear "that laws will be en acted compelling them to furnish equip ment, the railroads want to restrlot th business, even If they have to bank rupt the millmen, who have all their money invested in the business. Whether the opinion I advanced, vis.: That ths railroads wanted a division of what they think is too much profit for the lumber men, or an of the other theories ad vanced are true, the effect is Just the same, and places the railroads in a very uneuvlable light, and Justifies the mill men in the action they have taken, and they should have the cooperation of the publlo In their fight, as success by the railroads means, if not a deathblow, at least a very severe setback to the prin cipal Industry of the Pacific coast j to suggest to the millmen that In con sideration of the help of the public at this time, thev should loin with nthar people In constructing electric and lnter urban lines whenever and wherever it is possible, and also assist them in opening; every Important river on tha coast to free navigation, as this is of viuu importance to the whole coast, and no one Is more Interested In it than h lumbermen and their allies. (Special Dlapatrh to Th. Joarnal.) Tacoma, Wash., Aug. 21. Mr a Carrie V. Shaw Rice, poetess, school principal and for two terms member of the state board of education, who was dropped from th list of principals of the Ta coma schools last June, was reinstated py the board of education yesterday aft ernoon after one of the warmest ses sions the board has ever had. During th wordy war that prevailed Director Charles Drury called superior Judge M. Lt ciirrora. who in addition to being i member of the board is a dignified mem ber of the Pierce county bar, a liar. Ths Judge retorted, but later both thought Detter or tneir statements ana made mutual apologies. Superintendent A. H. Yoder of the city schools Is b'amed by the friends of Mrs. Rice for her being dropped. She was given a leave of absence for one year in order to make a trip to ths orient for the benefit of her health, with the assurance from Mr. Yoder that she should have her position upon her re turn. Arriving back she found another principal had been elected to fill her po sition. Her friends, numbering many of th moat prominent people of the city, at once took up her fight, and much bitterness and ill feeling has prevailed. She was reinstated yesterday by a vote of t to 2. Soma of Mrs. Rice's poems and chil dren's stories are Included in text books In use in the schools. BEDROOM SPECIALS Por Saturday we have placed the price on numerous stan dard Bedroom Suites far be low the regular. These come In the hardwoods and are very attractive as well as serviceable. Now is a time when bedroom furnishings will be very popular, owing to the increased demand. Our stock is so much larger and more complete than other dealers carry that we can assure a better variety for your selection. Fine Parlor Furniture Most Complete Stock in the Northwest Lowest Pos sible Prices C& Most Liberal Terms In furnishing the new home the greatest sense of pride centers in the parlor. It is with more thought and more care selected. Our third floor prides itself of the largest and best stock of parlor furniture to be found on the Pacific coast. Prices more moderate and subject to our plan pf easy payments. Dining Room SPECIALS Our Dining Room Furniture occupies the entire eastern half block on the second floor. Here are always to be found many articles whose rices are of a particularly iviting character. We claim to sell all furniture for leas. We only await the opportun ity to prove to you our claim. Tomorrow many piecte of highly desirable Dining Room Furniture will bev of fered at prices bound to popular. Visit this large sec tion of tne store. 1 Saturday Special Women's Skirts Every Skirt a true representative of new fall style. A special sale toacquaint you with the many excellent features of this modern Women's Department. $7.50 Panama Skirts $3.95 $9.60 Panama Skirts ?5.05 $12.00 Panama Skirts $6.95 $13.60 Panama Skirts $8.95 Blacks and all desirable colors. SATURDAY BASEMENT SPECIALS A set of 6 cups, 6 saucers and 6 plates all for f 1.65. This means Saturday only. The regular price is $2.50. The china is in very pretty mould. The patterns all attractive in coloP and design. In fact their likeness could hardly be duplicated anywhere in Portland under $3.00. Satur day fi.es SATURDAY HINTS TO MEN Right down on the main floor this Men's Department makes an awful stir, always busy, and yet never too busy to be accommodating. The very best clothes that men can wear. The sort that all men should wear, and at prices within the power of all men to pay. Either for cash or a little down and $1.00 a week. Special Showing-BOYS' SCHOOL TOGS LIBERAL CREDIT TERMS I. Gevurtz ( Sons FIRST ON YAMHILL SECOND MAIL ORDER Excellence OFFER CENTRA LIA BETTER PHONES (Special Dlapatch to Tha Journal ) Centralia, Wash., Aug. 21. The last regular council meeting was largely taken up with Messrs. Wagner and Clements of Portland, who seek a fran chise for a local telephone system In connection with tha Northwestern long distance aystem. Mr. Wagner explained the various provisions of the franchise and the vast Improvement in service which would be given. He stated that a local corporation would be o.-t?anlred with a local board of directors In con trol. It ia proposed to Install an auto matic system and give each patron his own line, avoiding tna delays and an noyances of party lines. The franchise contains a provision for a free fire alarm system, which will permit the use or eacn phone to send in alarms. The present telephone system is very fioor and If this franchise is granted t will be one of tha biggest Improve ments me city can maxe. STORES ARE CLOSED IN HONOR OF DEAD (Special Dispatch to Ths Journal.) Grants Pass. Or., Aug. 23. The funeral of Wlllard Denlson, a popular ana nigniy esteemed young business man of Grants Pass, occurred vesterdav anemoon rrom Newman Metnodls church, this city. Rev. C. O. Beckraan officiating. Out of resDect manv of the business houses of the city closed their aoors aurina; tne hours of the funeral and the church was filled with sorrow lng acquaintances and friends. Wlllard Denlson was 26 years of age. na nas uvea nere nearly an nis lira ATTORNEYS GENERAL CALLED TO CONFER I New York Oulfiltlog Cf. YOUR CREDIT IS GOOD New York Ontflttlng Co. OH Hot Weather Diet. With all tha fruits and grains of the market to choose from it should not be difficult to select a diet for hot weather that should be at the same time nourishing and not over heatlnc. There is little demand for tha heavy dishes of the winter; one wants Instead the acid of fruits and easily assimi lated food a Here are some not wearn er menus: THREE BREAKKTASTS. Shredded wheat biscuit Bananas with cream Poached egga Coffee Tea Again the knife does its work. No hesitation in our stroke, and there should be no hesitation in your stride, if you want the best pickings. The end of the season leaves us with about 85 Sum mer Suits on hand some two-piece, some three-piece and we are going to close them out at $8.65 they were $15 and $16. Also about 60 pairs of Trousers at $2.85 they were $4 and $5. Shirt special for Saturday: Men's Blue Chambray Shirts, all sizes, plain and plaited bosoms, at 654-the $1 kind. (Special Dlapatch to Tha Journal.) Olympla, Wash., Aug. 23. Attorney uenerai j. v. AtKinson is in recelDt of letter from Attorney-General Herbert 8. Hadley of Missouri Inviting him to at tend a conference of all the attorneys- general or me unuea tsiaies at St. Louis on September 30 and October 1. The purpose or this conference is to dis cuss a number of important subjects. inciuaing pudiio service corporations, maximum rates, legislation on trusts ana me connicts oetween state and fad' eral courts. V.. 3LI0N ClofMng Co Mohawk Building. 16168 Third St. OPERATOR AT WYETH IS WATCHING COMET (Special Dlapati-h t Tbe Journal.) wyeth, Or., Aug. 23. J. L, Whiting, night operator at this place reports that he has seen a comet the last few nights, the first time that he noticed it being last Saturday night. He reports that it can be seen very plainly between 8 and 4 o'clock in the morning. Just v caqicill UUrUGUll. AllilOUf )1 11 Is very small It Is readily aean without mo unc ui a gias. DRAIN PEOPLE WANT NORMAL REOPENED J Special Dlapatch to The Journal ) em. Or., Aug. 23. The attorney general has received complaints from ?v i t.1 i Dra,n 1ut'oninr . A , uvmu ui regents to close the normal school and asking his opinion. His answer was that the board was acting entirely within its righta. SIBERIAN ARMY IS BEYOND ALL CONTROL (Journal SpteUl Seine.) St. Petersburg. Auc. 23. Th. ..-. i commanding reports that tha rik. armir is completely bevond rnntrni l. an attack on tha barricade of the muti neer tha loyal troops sustained heavy losses. Eighteen rebels were killed and IS wounded. Eat only government inspected maL Grape fruit Cot tee Iced melo-e Coffee Bardlnea on toast Tea Toast Scrambled egga Tea THREE LUNCHEONS Clam bouillon Cold roast beef Boston brown bread Blackberries Iced tea Milk Asparagus salad Meat loaf Milk -biscuit Peaches and cream Iced tea Cocoa String bean salad Potted beef Corn muffins Watermelon on ice Lemonade Cocoa THREE DINNERS Clear soup Olives Cold cauliflower with mayonnaise Lamb chops breaded Bent Discuit Maple mousse Coffea New potatoes Cheese Lady fingers Y EIGHT DAYS MORE Saturday and Next Week Last Days of New York Outfitting Co. Clearance Sale Saturday and all next week is the last chance you have to take advantage of the greatest Clearance Sale Portland has had this season. Prices are cut to a mere shadow of former values we are making a big effort to make room for our big stock of MEN'S, WOMEN'S and CHILDREN'S WEARING APPAREL which is arriv ing in case lots every day. ALL OUR $18.00, $20.00 and $22.50 MEN'S SUITS ARE SELLING FOR ALL WOMEN'S AND CHILDREN'S APPAREL AT PROPORTIONATELY LOW PRICES ocfi if- frzrllt 'JRcniember that our liberal credit te US 1 1 Ui I CUll extended to everybody. Feel hesitancy in asking for creditit is freely yours, all you want terms no Cream of tomato soup Salmon salad Pickled onions Cold roast veal Boiled rloe Wafera cneese Ioa cream Macaroona Coffea Bisque of clam Fried egg plant Chow chow Cold chlCKen naraioga cnips Peach Jelly with whipped cream Cheese crackers Coffee K KK One Piece Gowns. The one piece gowns of embroidered j lingerie stuff are mora cobwebby and beautiful than aver thia year and every woman should have several well made silk slips In her outfit this summer, for the on piece modal Joined at waist Una by Inset lace or embroidery la the model par exoellence for aheer muslins na transparent maieriajs. nana maae rrench lingerie rowna lavlshlv em broldered and lac, trimmed are natur ally costly luxuries, but there are charming one-piece models which are hot appallingly expensive and are very effective. Hnch a model is attractive in fine em broidered Swii with colored dots on a white grounu. xne rrocx it trimmed with many huea of narrow Inset Valen ciennes insertion and a gulmpe and cuff of Valenciennes and ia worn over an India silk sllt matehlna tha embroi dered dots In color. A white Bwiss with lllao dots worn over palest lilac silk la especially pretty in thia style. K H K First Aid. A hot-water bag will cfttlmes sud denly spring a leak when most needed; tha same with tha pipe of syringe. A pleoa of adhesive plaster placed ever the break will atop tha leak Immediate ly, and will ataty In place for quite a bile., it can easily ha removed, and 19 WHS wmmm proves a most satisfactory first aid to an injured rubber article. An Effective War. It was in tha great auditorium In the Athens of tha south. Tha Chicago Glee club was giving one of ita delight ful concerts. Right In front of ma was a young gentleman and a young lady who were more Interested in each other than they were in tne concert, xney talked and talked and talked. Finally the young man said, "Did you aver try listening to mualo with your eyes shut?" ana tne Oiaji laay oeni iurwa.ru, ana touching hlni on the shoulder, said very pleasantly, "xoung man, eua you ever try listening to musio with your mouth shut?" And ha did it right there and then. at H :i Hint for Mother. Camphor lea or sweet cream la. good for removing Inflammation produced by sunburn. Hot milk la most refreshing and stim ulating In. cases of. cold or overfatigue. Its action 4a quick and grateful. For bump or bruises apply lea-cold cloths or cotton saturated with lead and opium. In the absence of these remedies, bathe with wltoh-haieL Hiccups are usually due to wind on the stomach produced by too rapid If, however, tney appear be- For an Infant one year old rhubarb-and-s feeding. however, they appear twaan feedings, a simple remedy Is to hold baby about the body with one hand and arm, grasp the: ankles with the other hand, and turn it quickly upside down once or twice: this motion will cause the Infant to belch up the wind, which will- produce Immediate relief. Hlvea are usually tha result of a dis ordered stomach. They may be relieved by drinking water in which pinch of bicarbonate of soda (oooktng-soda) has been dissolved, and at the same time bathing the blotches with - the soda- water. teasDOonful of rhubarb-and-soda mix ture may be given and repeated every three nours until tne ooweis are thor oughly cleansed. For a baby six months old, one nan the dose should be given." tun These New Colors. The erase for faded flowers and grasses, which Is a mania In Paris, leads to some results which are really laugh able, though those same faded flowers cleverly handled are capable of delicious color schemes. A Philadelphia woman Just back from Paris displayed the contents of her hat trunk to a group of Interested friends tne other day, "WelL what do you think of thamf she asked proudly. The - ostrich' Plumes are rorreoua" commented one friend politely. "Don't you like the flower trimmed onesr The friend struggled- twlxt frankness and eourtesy, but the truth would out ''My dear,'- aha said firmly, "thev look as though you bad turned your last sum mer's hats hind side before and gath ered together all -your old flowers and pinned them on any old way and then left the hats out In the rain and tha aim for weeks." - The description was vehement hut it answers -fairly well for some of the modala which the milliner rMnmnnj aa ultra chic Faded lavenders, violets, purples, blues, greens, pinks, browns, etc., are prominent among the artificial flowers, but oeautirui roses ami iiiana and pansiea and other flowers In natural buh mrv iovwu ua waii. Aberdeen Lid Cases Dismissed. . (Soedsl Plrpatea ts Tha JeanML) Aberdeen.- Wash.. Aur. 11 Tin count of the olosing of the saloons on Sunday all of the pending lid eases have Cider contains trice a orach alcohol m Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer, yet people gen erally agree that cider to a temperance beverage that even children can drink. Pabst BlueRibbon Tha Beer of Quality contain! only 8J of alco hol, and la rich in the ex tractives of malt and bona that aid the digestion, build up the blood, and promote health. Charles Kohn A Co.. Cor. Id and Pine Sts Port Phone stain 0. land. Or. I been dismissed at tbe instance of Prose cuting Attorney E. B. Boner. All other laces out saioons win be allowed to eep open for the present 7