THE OREGON DAILY. JOUKKTAL. PORTLAND, FRIDAY EVENING. JANUARY 15. 1904. SPEECHES TO THE POINT BY DELEGATES JMPOBTAHT ADDRESSES DELIT XBED IW LIVESTOCK COJTVEJff TIOW OK V ABIE XT 07 SUBJECTS nrroBMATiow as to vobest BESEBVES ASS WATEB '"STTFPXjT. As usual. President Springer and Sec retary Martin put in a prompt appear ance at the afternoon session yesterday, of the National : Livestock association v. convention. . In opening, the former led oft- with the statement: "Tou cannot catch flies with vinegar. I enunciated this principle seven years ago and we've Stuck to It ever since." ' ' fe;:;:hn Texas Baaohes..fpiisi'v'jiS' "I own ranches In the great state of Texas, the only one that has been able to regulate the railroads. The rail roads don't want any more legislation like that of Texas, In forming a railroad eommliMrieB-eleeted-by-the -peoplef-sus- talned by the Texas supreme court. This was upheld by the United States supreme court a body we respect as we do the old flag." A Fatrlotio Tribute. . ' ' ,: He' paid a tribute to the flag that was . . led on to victory every time In the last war. i "No one need fear Rockefeller or rierpont Morgan. We furnish the meat tbey .eat and own the land. This after noon the senate In Washington Is dis cussing the great Panama canal, and , we don't carr what Jim Hill says about It Makes a Prediction. "Uncle Sam will - grow big enough some day to turn over Cuba and the Philippines to their own people; - when they have learned . enough to govern : themselves. You cannot turn down the Christian religion nor the undying prin clples' It represents. We need never fear the religions of the East, where cruclflxion was held up above human ity." President Springer then Introduced Dr. J. K. Stubbs of Nevada, who spoke on . "What Shall We Do With Our Grac ing LandsT" A Pitting Tribute. . Adjusting his glasses at the close of ' Dr. Stubbs' address, President Springer - Stroked bis brow to straighten out the tangled threads of thought that the ad dress suggested. Taking a long breath he sprang to his , feet with vim and vigor. Advancing to the front he started In again: . "The magnificent men of the East laid the foundations of an empire, and they bullded better than they knew. The sons of easterners will extend and are extending that empire. They will finish this up when this great administration shall build the great Panama - canal. Governor Sparks of Nevada sent the right kind of man here when he dis patched Dr. Stubbs to this convention.1 Wanted Speech Printed. The president was Interrupted by a voice, which requested that Dr.-Stubbs' : address be printed, in pamphlet form for wider circulation. "It will be done, continued President Springer, with em phasis. Teddy All might,. Too. s "President Roosevelt is another of the right kind of men and has sent his able emissaries to Portland. X want ' . you' to understand 'that In this great land of ours our noble men 'and women are not only willing to. liv ' foV their country, but to die for It If need be. ,et us forget the selfish maxim, 'Live and let live and substitute therefor. 'Live and help to live,' Let us become a i mutual forbearance society." He then i presented Governor Heber M. Wells f Utah, who delivered the able address on "The Policy of the Government Rela tive . to Forest : Reserves," published . in The Journal last evening. '; Introduces Hon. 7. K. W swell. ' - ' President Springer said, after Gov ernor Wells had finished speaking: ' 1 urged President Roosevelt several years ago to appoint an honest land 1 commission to come West and find what Western men need, and he has graciously complied, - lie appointed 'three' members of this : commission, two of whom he sent on to us, and they are here with us todaythe Hon, F. II. Newell and the Hon. Olfjord Pinchotr, Mr. Hawaii Talks. Mr. Newell said: "The president of the United States has' asked us to meet and consult with you, ; and If we can agree, to have given you that, which you seek. Dr. Stubbs must have ; been around arid picked up my unwritten speech, so well has he presented my Ideas, i The ' president has asked us to meet you and show you our good will. Something clearly must be done to re lieve the' situation affecting the West ern livestock and sheepmen. - "A- statement has- been -made- regard ing the reclamation 'of arid lands. - Yet these amount to only 2 or 3 per cent of the entire area of the Western states. This is a time of transition from old conditions to new. What these are, -you all anticipate, and they are now before you. We are delighted that the Ideas presented may lead to ultimate success. Mr. Pinchof and myself are more than pleased 1 with your .unanimity. . While we are here, every suggestion you . can make we want.' If you can suggest any thing further, write it out and we will take your Ideas .with us." Presents Mr. Pinchot. Here came another opportunity for President Springer, which he was not slow to seize. c In introducing the .;. Hon. Glfford Pinchot, he said: . "Mr. Pinchot has devoted his life and attention to the study of forestry. He is a college-bred man, and was selected by. the president because of his qualifi cations. He Is not afraid of anyone or anything on. earth." , Mr. Pinchot thus responded: "If I am afraid of any man It is you," as he : glanced archly at President Springer, : and then continued: "I'm afraid some one has done something with Governor Wells of Utah. He forgot in his discourse to mention what forest reserves are for.'' I have found out here that, without the presence of summer range, in the next few years the destruc tion of. that range now going on will cauBe it serious reduction. Governor, I want to add to your remarks that forest and grass are Important, but not more Important than water. - Doubling' Water Supply. "We have fallen into the habit of as suming that trees will grow only where they are growing. I believe it possible to so restore the forests that the water supply 'will be doubled. It has not been the tree or the soil, but fire that must determine where they shall grow. Areas will be produced In the future that will be important as water purveyors. "When land Is withdrawn from the public domain thatjdoes not mean that It Is to be a forest reserve. The gov ernment' makes withdrawal to allow ex perts to map out the lands and deter mine, what -la proper to set 'aside as forest reserve. But 1 11 have. this ques tion out In private with Governor Wells at Salt. Lake." Mr, Plnchott remarked that, as he had but 'One .speech, and as he had already delivered that before th Woolgrowers association, he could only read a few ex cerpts therefrom, which he did. Mr. Brook of Wyoming. ' The Hon. B. B, Brooks of Wyoming1 was then called to the stage by the chair and asked to speak on the subject of forest reserves. ' In part he said: The average man knows little ' or nothing about forest reserves and cares less.1 Once, there was an. old maid, -in a state where women are allowed to vote, who went to the polls.' The' In spector asked her her age. She replied that she had seen 21 summers. He re-' plied: 'How long have you been blind?' So I say the average man Is blind to the subject. ' If he could spend day after day traversing the vast areas-ofi our Pwlds plains up to the mountains, and then pass upward along their great sides through the timber belts to-the regions of eternal snow; then on upward again, till' his feet found a place on. the ever lasting : glaciers, and still up, until' he stood, upon the very peak of the moun tain where he could tickle the feet of the angels fl he wanted to, . he . would understand. He would know1 how the sheepherder feels when he is' relegated to those cold wastes to feed his flocks. Blocking Progress. ' "Within 12 years the government has withdrawn from settlement, development and use, more land than is contained within all the New England states, with New York added. The forest reserve cover more than your great state 'f Oregon. ; Forest preservation is a good thing, but couldn't we manage best for ourselves could not each state handle this question : best ' for Itself 7 Let the government turn over these lands - to each state, retaining in itself the title, but permitting the states to lease them for graalng, or to make homes or farms. "In Wyoming we have three reserva tions, . containing 8,654,144 acres. - On these progress has ceased. No settler can there build a home. No. livestock can there grace, save by the permission of the government, and in limited num bers. When you check the lumberman, the cowboy and the ranchman, you block the wheels of progress. That's our con dition in Wyoming." President Springer then called for the report on nominations for membership In . the executive : committee, and an nounced that after this was done, he would give Jerry Simpson a chance to tell what he thought of the railroad situation. . "Jerry ached all' this fore noon," said President Springer, "to speak after he heard Mr. Cotton's address, but he didn't get a show, so I guess he'll be glad of , an opportunity to let oil steam." Under-suspension of the rules a res olution was adopted' expressing the thanks of the convention to President Roosevelt for the great interest he has ever manifested lh the livestock Inter ests of the United States, and particu larly the western portion thereof. .. As Mr. Simpson came forward. Presi dent Springer greeted htm. with: "And now Senator - Simpson,' V to which . Jerry came back at him with "Vice-President Springer," and the latter said: "You are unanimously elected." Mr. Simpson re sponded, "So are you," and then he thus unburdened .himself : Jerry's Strenuous Ufa, "I have been In Portland now for three days three strenuous days. Not such days as the gentlemen here who work for the government put in eight hours nor one of your little 10-hour days, but a-full 2 4 -hour day. As a, friend of mine remarked to me last night: 'How short the days are so far north,' and I couldn't help replying .that the., nights here were a mere nothing. Your presi dent - here thinks a windmill can run with water power. . "I thought , I'd like to talk on this railroad subject this mornthg, but I feel different now, ater Hearing all these splendid addresses this afternoon. They are the bestvl ever. heard. 1 1 feel like a man who ' once attended a Methodist conference. - The moderator came for ward and introduced the Rev. Mr. Jones. Said he: 'Mr., Jones is full of his sub' ie.cV Then, After a- pause, he added: Mr. Jones will now address you, on the devil.' 1 " . . ' Extends Congratulations. ; "I am much Interested in this ques tion of leasing the: public domain. I congratulate the sheepmen, the1- horse men, and the cattlemen, for, the rapid advance their ideas have made in the last two years-v The government ought to supervise the distribution of the pub lic domain. It belongs to the people, and they ought to have the use of it. . Fire and timber . thieves " are the real dan gers our forests have, not the honest ettler. - , : ."There is a graft' on this forest, re serve everything, pretty nearly, is a grafc nowadays, . , For instance, some of the railroads, in examining their grants, found themselves possessed of a lot of useless land, so they 'got the govern ment to give them lieu , lands In their. place. They received allotments on the fertile plains, while the other fellow that came after them had to be content with" bleak allotments on the mountain sides." - endorses Boosevelt. ''''.. "It gives me great pleasure as a Democrat to speak a good word : for President Roosevelt a Republican. : He has , shown great wisdom In selecting able men for this, great .land -commis-. slon, and such entitles, him to the sup port of the great v est. He's going to give us a " big reservoir-' down In our country, ' which shows his wisdom, and we are going to get it iirst of all others. "Mr. Cotton, - who spoke here this morning, is a very learned gentleman and a lawyer. He Is an example of what these railroad corporations can do. They've got the .money to buy the best brains. He made out an excellent case for the railroads in favor of the ship per of wheat. , Suggests ' Solution, "About the only solution I can sug gest ; to this railroad question Is the government ownership of railroads. This would destroy competition.'. But I; do believe the railroads do the best -they can In shipping stock. Sometimes they even give stock trains the preference over passenger trains. I ve sworn a lit tie before now because I had to give tne rignt or way to a steer. ? ..... "Of course It Is to the interest of every corporation to-get the most they can for their money, the same as it is with the rest of us. Some other time I'll give . you . my regular four-hour speech." . ' , . . CAMP 261 W. 0. W. INSTALLS OFFICERS The officers-elect Of Georae . Washing ton oamo. No. 261. -W. O. W..wer in. stalled by Fast Consul E. H. Deery at Woodmen building, Tenth and Wash ington streets, Friday evening. The offi cers installed were: Consul commander, H. A. Frederlch; advisor. Lieutenant R, E. Rassmussen; banker, P. F. Weinland; clerk, H. L. Day; escort, V. Hochfeld; watchman, James Robertson: sentrv. H. K, Kassebaum; managers. - Dr. W. O. Manion and R. G. Collins. , : After the installation the following program was rendered: . Song (. ..Gus . Fleming Piano solo .......... Professor Gramm Mandolin solo-...... R. E. Rassmussen Song Paul Hlns ... While the. .program 'wes; being ren dered refreshments-were served and re marks were made by 'the following vis itors:. Consul-Commander Elliott of IF YOU PAY MORE THE MONEY'S WASTED 1 r I .... h,. . : : ' I : II ';....'."'.'' f ..S .w ' JMKSwt,. 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Mclsaac East to try and secure appro priations from a number of states which have not, up to this time, been urged to help along the fair. The states where legislatures are now In session, which will be visited by Mr, Mclsoac, are Ken tucky, Iowa, Mississippi, South Caro lina, Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, Rhode Island and New York. r The de linquent subscriptions were turned over to Gammans & Malarkey for collection. While it is not anticipated that all of these states will make appropriations, and If so some of them will be small, the idea 4a to give" them all an oppor tunity to help the cause along, Mr. Mclsaac has been very successful In his past work on these lines. Now with the issue before the people in congress and the senate, it is thought by those having in charge the securing of appro prtatlonsthat-the work will at this tira be easier than heretofore. Clergymen Take Notice I Application blanks for 1904 permits are now In the hands of Northern Pa cific agents. , Clergymen who have .not received proper blanks can now do so on application, in person or by letter to A. D. Charlton, assistant , general passen ger agent, 255 Morrison street, corner Third, Portland, Or., or to any station agent of this company. - - Xeady for Business. The New Owl, located at. corner -of Fifth and Alder. A feature of .the even ing will be the coin display, which is one of the largest In this section, and. the first time to be displayed in Port--land. H. G. . ("Doc") JBrowa'iWill be there io greet you.. On Account of Our REMOVAL Febray Ist to 0ar New store We Offer at Auction . Our Fine, Large Stock BOOKS and MUSIC. TIME... Tomorrow, Saturday, 2:30 and 7:30 p. m. fl, r mm , . - ...... PIANO otf r. Oure years' lease in c-- XB thenew building at H- C?Sr. V JK XOSATN , ! ' "I muoh prefer Mis IUIUt as oombin- w r-CsVAw s. X. . 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