Kitgen City Guard. BVl'UKDAV l (.1-1 ID TO CORRESPONDENTS. The business department of the WEEKLY GUARD is caused considerable trouble by corre snondents addressing the pro prietors peisonally. Address rll letters referring o the newspj oer or business connected there with to THE GUARD, Eutene, Oregon. It n - ;i 1 1 .1 i. Hill t. Mil- " to 1 The American t-l-ltV I Cole: The Dally t'ala I i i ..i Q Eltrbnr, Ml ?h., sey r the Oree m trip: In iur xjK riani i ia bot ital iiy, we never saw tie ..iul of Oregon. The clasps of oar poeket booke are getting ei rusty wo fear we will iioi li" abla to y i (ban when wi k''' baok lo "the Baal." R MM ure magnificent here. They grow to .i il i i meter of seven in b i and are most perfect ihapa ai ! exquisite bow i i Porto Rico. i$ :-:-:-;-:-!-w-:-;-.-!-!-:-!-!-:-x-!-!-:-:-:- pr. 'imw 1 , . . r. t'lll "' ' ' i in .viucruau coiciiviii i inn ivu-ii in niil small. dr it has baan in exiitonos tttilv it few months, tint it li rapidly in .i og. Beside, army and govi rnnient pflfc r- there nr.' DOW in San .Imili a munis r of Aiuerirnu husiues men wbo are obliged ta stay tbata to look after their commercial interest Nome of tbesehava brought thair families down, inn. h to tli delight "f tlii' nruiy worn i n. who have l.eeti very lonesome for so ciety of their own kind. I'ntii recently Mrs. Gey V Henry, wife of tin' military governor of the i laud, km tha leader i f tbt toctal circle at San .T linn. She it was who i rganizfd the tint patriotic league and landed nna of tha attire womeq Into an American sewing society. Mrs. Fred II. Grant, wireof thi brigadier general) alaa did her ahare In tnllTanlng exist ence for tlm members of Um colony. Her lam . - and reeeptii ni wen- the most brilliant affairs that haw la-en given rinca tin1 Bpan tarda i ft. Hut both Mrs. 11. in v ai 1 Mi. liraiit bate left the laland. and now tbe first American lady in Porto Rico la Mn Philip C Banna, wife of tin- United -state eonanl at Ban .'nan Bhe known i'ortu Itico and tin- Porto Bicana th. r onghly for ibe went there whan bar husband was tirst iipisinttd t.. his ; ant post at tho beginning of the Mi Kin icy administration. it has probably been forgotten by ii.. w. for it war bnl briefly mentioned at the timet nt it in a fact that Mrs Banna played an Important part in the campaigu of General Mile in Porto Rico. After the deetraetion of the Maine and before ibe declaration of war tbo Spanish ufticiaU treated the Ann ii- THE NE t ho M in Presto Tin . ftlce n- Utbl I 's Presbytei n i ' - mn. ist' i -Sample, wl the other da) Midi ml ft. toh. roi; LITTLE FOLKS. has MI'mUW VAI.IKV A oorreepoodent from Qreenleaf, Lnne ooooty, writea aa follows to the Orejoninn; "There is a slow, steady Influx ol immipriints to the Bioslaw valley, and the bottomi formed by tribu tary stnutcp. In tho put x years the number of tn inlie about doubled, I ho obange in we immigration ourinc, m t biirb, hihI hU . iimt in.- price of the mist vi nr i h;it a laroer 1 1 r picking must be advanced It is an oontage nf newootn ra hue improved homoa, and the of vac 'ii i irma baa rli oi preceding y an tn..r'- cutm means, anil look Up bun While ibe number ol ' doubled mice the panic wealth per capita hi I quintupled, Tenuis, ai (rati rs in N i . until.. r and : lie I Eharaettr, and : if the one bni iral ami'Mil ly I for tho o aaarrativa church. Tin- newlj lorn nt i padnati .i I Nor a tiiMin Pnoaraor Inde end ence W.st Side: " The present Indie tiona do not point to a i ieh price :..r ImpM tills year all In. null II will ten fair one. All attempt U being mail" ill uiiliit, .1IH.rl1.r4 I.. I r. .j .... (I... pnnapai pabllothattheprioeof hops t- folna U S:it injustice In li hop men to car ill raise .iimb"r i. in 111 I ll' II IS jear, the probably k, lurnl" ture, veh cles and farming imp! e tnents, iucludiiiK the lirM mowera ever seen on Like creek, or ita tributariea, till . large pli a in ii is increase of property, wbile many log barns anil dwellings have la. n replaced iy good frame bulldlnga, "Appropriations of eovernoiont land will proceed rtiwly until B railroad conn s nearer, or the im provement! lo the river l.olow yiorence, put the mouth "i the cliannel in luoh condition ihit; coast steamers will mike ri . .1 I calls there. The completion of a wagon road from the head of tide to Acme, which is being built by volunteer labor on a route surveyed md accepted for a county roil, promises to give an impetus to shipments to .Sin Francisco, of I products which have thus far had! DO practicable outlet. Many imall either idea. I'lie IIHliciJlons , 1 not point to a liiith prloa for hops, ami the price of hih ir will I. rc :nliiti"l ! -Up piy mid demand, in vlan of the al moat total failure of the fruit crop, it leemi rnaeonable ' suppose that lb ra will lie plenty of plekota to be foutal who will work for a rcasonut.le c. 1.1 panaMion, as they will have found do employment in ploklng fruit, and must do aniuetblng lo earn money. I he hop (rowan shoulil not he in bade to in the the prloa f..- pieklng too low, nor on the Other hand should the pickers be encouraged to e mbloo ami ask too Mull a price. i is al.vays hi t ter to mak" h iste slowly in Mich mi l-terH." I-.! to this i neap.. Ii. is to I a n a- , na 1 f tha ilth, Baaidi i 1 1 n d pnlplt i la a trav, Ii r. t ion as moderator Dd l"V. nth :;. n trdi .1 as a victory il. lin lit '( the tad moderator was N'. Y . m 1884 Be it, risiti college and can eonanl and his wife with ainoate HATUKOAY, AUG Pain t n.ooK. Salem Bteteeman: "In a eoiivi rsalion with Mr Huhhard Friday, 'oiiccrning the hop outlook, he hhI I: Coming from a M it ion where no hops are raited, I oannol irive out much Information ooneernlng the year's crop. I have not yet had the time t personally ilisp-et the yard- in the vicinity of Salem, but have beeo informed that the prwpeete for a large yield of a tine quality are good and prt lent Indications are lint the grower will realize a timid price for b's crop.'' Bpkkdily Cured. Mn J L 'w is a i;ret BUllerer from hay fever during the summer months and at limes tic tracts of timber land arc changing pain in nearly uuemiurable. Bhe bu hands, but the buyers do not ap pear to ropresent any combination." A TRAlTOB'g PATE. The Kansas City Star duly 27th says: The tragic scene which at tended the death of Corporal Leon- tried every r. medy she ever heurd of hut without relief. The other day the family moved down t tha river bank near the Kerns place and in two bourn -he ot relief and han not heelltrouhl. il since. Pure out door air and pure water accomplished what medicine failed to do. Mail No PACK AOU TO THI Yi kon ard V Hayes. America's onlv traitor -The poatofllce depart nent has given . notice that paokagaa will not bade- in tha Philinninaa. was witnessed i .. . ! livered by mail in tne . aon utainoi in the PhilinnineB, was witnessed by Sergeant ('eo A Limarsh of Company II, Twentieth Kansas vol Letters and postal cards v ill tie taken, hut no provision ha been made fnr noteers. now in the city, aergnint , forwardim.' third and fourili cltis i,m.,h nt to the Philinninea matter. All persona an requeated nol with the Second Oregon regitu nt fourteen month- ago. Corporal Hayes, he says, became enamored of a Filipino beauty, and deserting his comrades was placed in oharge of a Filipino battery with tho rauic of lieutenant. H met his death almost in the Crst engagement in which he fought against his coun try. .Speaking ol this battle, Sergeant Lamarsh said: "Wo had charged the Filipinos, driving theni back and killing and wounding many. Among th" wounded on the field was Hayes. He was rec jnized by several of the boys. "One of the soldiers of the Second Oregon Iroye his bayonet through th body of the traitor, and lifted him up above his head and held him there, while the soldiers shot him. The body was thrown into a trench and buriei with several dead Filipinos. We would have treated him worse if we had known him." to deposit pai kiiL'i s III any post olllce tor points in Yukon territory, as they cannot be forwarded Mimnu VlKWS. Some excellent views of Bohemia mining camps are on exhibition at W LDaLanoJa drug store. Tiny were takeu by the Eugene Photo Co. on the recent visit to Bohe mia mule by Mr and Mrs J li Welder, i'Hl-: OLD PIiAB. Mnps. Will-in .Statesman: "Last ear's Drop has been completely clean ad up and then la not a single bale stored in this city. Then are, however, 825 bales of the crop of lsti'i ul the Southern Paolflo company's hop wae house." Cubic.-Otla Pearee, recently re-; turned from Manlls, has a number of curios on exhibition at the Barker Oun Works. Among them Is a unique eennon mounted upon an iron wheel barrow. They are decidedly interest ing. Wrist Cot. Mr efatteeon, while working tor James Bbbert today mow ing, cut id- left wrist with a pen knife, levering one of the arteries, it took seven stitches hy a surgeon to repair damages. Hkar Kji.i - -HKKI- A Maol hear last night kilhd ten sheep for Bruno Vitus on his place in opripgowa prr COSSfl. AN! MliS. pinup C IIANNA. I oonrteay. Tl Americans al h ast had i gained their respect, and the courtly dons saw no reason to obange their at i tltnde beoanse of International affsira But the Porta Ricana acted different" ly. Eager to gain Spanish favor, they exhibited contempt and disrespect fox all things American. A guard of police stall iieil constantly at the consulate, Was Deces-ary to prevent iuub violence. During all this period, while Spanish respect remained ropnme, the Consul and Mrs. BattM wi re defiant to Porto Hi .in hatred, They appeared as usual ou the plaza during the triweekly mili tary concert. They were jeered and lb t d nt hy the Crowd, hut the lag, l..:. i iwan, cool and reserved, walked quietly up an l down, and the little wo man In white kept op a bravs front, hiui"iig with perfect wng froid. it took grit for tbs conaul'awlfi to remain, for all means ol exit from the island w re now being cutoff. Tbeoon snl, however, was bound to remain at his post uutil delinite orders canm from headquarters, wbile all around him an angry populace literally gnashed it teeth with rage ii the face ol blacool i ! i f, on A pi il 1-. the order RXV. UIU IIOI '. I from the W lernTfa His lir-t pai I i . the ai st at Bsdford I1 I '.'i i (barge he was culled kl t' V- terebnreb, Mlnnsapalii He . . I in Minneapolis for '.'t years, Paring the pa-i 19 y rsbel naitor of the Weetmbwter church, Vork ity lir Sample ia a membi r of a nnmbef of boards and Important committees under the c. Mr,. I of tha gi Di ral a lily among othera, the board of i mrch erection He laalso a trnat if Llni i In unlverait) He ha- been i lerstor of the 0 nod of Minnesota and al oiuottdr- STAGE- ILLUSIONS. Mot. I h ii i, ilr rsltirm k. )l,tlii. M-ill mill n . Ir. laMtatml la Plaii lhal which may lie comprehended un der tbe term theatrical meteorolocy. weather outside, tho stage manager within can bring about rain and bail, ' w tn, I or a thunderstorm at will, and lli,- Illusion Is ho complete us to Home- ' iea make nervous meroben of the .ii, ia luseualbl) shudder. and rain are nnreaented by a i-l ted wooden cylinder about all feet long, which i obstructed inside by Mi lieus crosapleces, a quart of peaa com plettng the arrangement ity turning tbla cylinder tlrel one wa) upend then Ike Other lhc peas rauic through It iih close imitation of the sound ot In avj tain .ai S roof. The wind arrangement coualam of a wheel about two feet In diameter, et in a frame Itke that "f a grindstone. Tills wheel Is furnished With rtUl on its perlpherj somewhal like the Uoats of a water "heel, and drawn tightly over the ribs is a piece of thick siiu. When the wheel is turned, the ribs run against tbo sin,, ami hy turning the handle Ural quickly and then alowly a rery good Imitation of the soughing ot too a in. I is produced. Lightning may eaallj be Imitated by using chemical or electrical means, and the usual mode of producing thun der Is by shaking a large s t ,if ilc- hle iron plate. Some theaters have, howover, a far mora elaborate and ef fective thunder arrangement, which is used as an auxiliary ta tho iboet of Iron when a storm Is supposed to reach its height. This eunslats of a number of cannon balls held a trough and allowed to fall at the tight moment ami to run over a Boor above the ceil ing of tin- theater, a snowstorm is brought aimm hy a perforated revolving cylinder above the stage, charged with paper cuttings, Unfortunately, tbeao messengers ,,f frost have a hahlt of noting on .'.'I kinds of projections and dislodging tbemeelvei in subsequent scenes when their pies, n, e Is not deshahlc. ( ham hers' Journal. Nllllll llll II.. "Yon can't fool ni'.'' ays Marti. "I'm bla enouall to know Tii.it M in n ii - h lumnwr wsatbsr Than Isn't any snow. ' TEACHERS INSTITUTE Stale Superintendent Merman Lectured This Afternoon. liter ot He was t i lan c in the i tho preabyti i a delegate t.. tuncil In Id a hi ItW I and i. Nt w Y. rk. pan Pri ibj li, It. Ing, effectivo Inn gery, pathos, ona ami wit en I all lhal goi 1 1 tin- accompli h I mini ol let- pen and Ibis ii, nry s!c. eintill to lnitk ters IIS well as the Iwvi idler Tor '.'.i vein i ba haa bi a a constant contribntor lo po is and periodicals ami volume.- published enony isly, which bsvs found thi Ir way to clasaifl cation oi' high rank aiuoug choice wotki of tin- km I. A BOY HEALER. MftrvelAM i " . i"' i i-i-iiii.-il io i iii Mule lloatreal Lao. Tin-whole province of i,1'!- bee is very much interested in lbs marvelous ato . ; s whh b re i i Id abont the cures eiTei trd I little 1 in Lonis Tail Ion, tbe boy bi il. r 1 1 Mi utnaL People nre Visiting the Taill. n Itonae at tbe r; re of ovt QU h da) N I all f them am allowed lo so tbs boy healer, Ji an I i I sex. nth ri f Jo- eph and B inua Talllon, French Ca nadian folki in moderali Ircnmstabcsa, Ilia home i at a Ti unk street, Mont- "Oh. yes. than 1st" s.ns Kails. just eoma sn.i rau simii rv. it's iii my grandma'! aardsn An I 1:1 .. lin; on a tn e." Out Hi. y went In Hi.. Kiirileti To si-., in,, pretty night. An, i Hart I. lookad with mneer rjpon iii" Rowan white, s , ii r walking papers. " the j ton I raid to his wife. Y. -. really 1" was all she said, with i little rising inflection of indif-l fsrance. Durili ,' t h ir escape in n lJritish ves sel Mr- Banna exhibited the same cool courage. She was left behind at Bt Thuiuas when Consul Hannawent with lent ral Miles on bis campaign of Intra sjoD. She had In the meantime learned the, official secret code and bund a chance to use it Although General Mill was in Porto Rico, be knew nothing about the: strength of the opposing Spanish force, but Mrs. Ilnona at the cahlu ctiitiun in Bt. Tbomaa learned all shout the situ ation in Ban Juan and i t mptly trans mitted these tacts to bi r bu I and. .l lis cabled that tbs (0, Itroi ps which tbe tvrarjRSO AiiMisisTKATon. C H : Rlcan volunteers wj,-r so badly Beared , Rnrkhnld.r has been appointed ad- that they Wan ready tod.,- it at tl.e UAKi. a'aa - ,h jcntiiutW first ibot. ,L-il. 111 IllstrOtor Of tile CS.a I'U ' 1 '" deceased. Probable ValOl of estate 1 180. Hund ji : -nr. ty, Janie- Hetnenway. While visiting the University yesterd .y on tbe occasion of ex tendi! gr.eting to Henry Villard and party, a I tbe old Sag hanging from the Bag pole. Praotically nothing is left of it but the blue field in which j the stars are set, all of the itrlpes having betn blown away with the exception of the tattered edges. The University of Oregon Hag pole should support a large and Hue specimen of the nitional emrileuo, and at this time it would seem to cinct 1 narty of hunton will go out Spanish wars supposed t" have . 9 ' ! CI.. T.... w..r.. lurvM lv 1,1 .'l,i( a after ins bmioehlp In tbe morning San Junu were lurg. ly nr. ti.h hi. anu that tbo greater part of tin-native Port be very properly in order for the , leai0cr lit IlOHEJIIAWAKP. Last week there w a au average of ahout twenty paf sous a day to go into the Bohemia mines from the Lane county side. Knv, I'a.stoR. The First Baptist ebUftb of this city, has electeil a new paator, Iv Calvert Baaoot, of Oak hud, . . r in ...u.. ....... i a ili.rnia. tiv win . fir (ii,ni ral Mil, s w a- , 1 to get -m h information, yi.n may I lUri IS I I conipliiu. iit. i Consul Banna t n ii huch an able and level beaded helpmeet Of course it was great ."iiii-factioii to Mr-i. Banna to ran att r triumphantly su Joun. where she had been boot ad eg eke walked the streeta, and iea stars and stnp.s everywhere. She u,uv have forgiven tbe l' rt.. Rlc.-ins nrobabtar sbs has hot it is donbtful if bs will ever forget those BnpleaaaBl tucntbs she ipent in San Juin just be fore tbe wT. Maay E. Leonaju ii "i kl mm ;M ji ( iVia iv.i... g 'jr.'. V,:.A''Jtjk. Ami He n . lie sal.l : " h, Katlet How lovely it wont, i be To kasp n mi i"" winter To h our I 'hrlstinus traal" Mari-ari l I.. In riii. 'nii.itl i'..tiiiiiprclal Tribune, Vrrt i.. UM Wha Beaaia Qvoat. livery precocious i.oy does Dot be BOOM a btUllant man, but some bril liant men have been precocious In chihiii.....i. John Ruakln, tbe gnat Bngllah saaaysat I critic ou art, was neh a child. .t the age of 7 be wrote verses In rhyme and kept n Journal, or diarj. This journal wm really a rec ord of trips through England that he took with his father. Ill In tarsal in the old cathedrals and In the bits .r scenery that be saw during these JOUT iryi betrayed the tastes licit In later years decided his CS r On the Mil of last February air. Buakln reached Lis eightieth year. reg It ii all red that be cone litapl by tb ' hands and that ha ciiurgi i th.: ' at all for his rvic . merely ask in. tic iiflSi. t. d onea to say a pat. r end BVS f';r tbelr relief. A- - edlng to Jean's mother, hsh oever trii'i loonte anything but tis.tli ache nntil lust intnuiir. hut he is sai l to bars ri lit r d the pain oi sebing mo Ian i v.r m.- .- I." was a i.e. nth. old Mine. Tuiliou say. that tin y nil I p , i he woo id poaeem seme power to cur.j heci'JK) of his beinir a leveutb son. i-i.-i t w in. in.. ..sir. I saw u lltn... aigehiiK worm, t'ncertnla u l.ut to .lo. Who simply squirm. a 1,1. Iltthi aqUtrai Until II." .In llirouith. "I wmit to know." UM Uttle worm Ex. lflm.'.l as In ...plr.-.l, -ir ens but wisai.-s uii gar lonaT, aynal m.,r.. sart ba SailradT" Tin ...I'.ri r. Williams In Hi M.-holas. lalilo I al." Tim term "tubby cat" Is derived from At.il.. a famous street in Itag.bn), bsbabitsd by the manufaeturera of silk , en stuff called stibi or laffety. ThU I Itnff is woven with waved markii. watertsl silk resembling a "tabby" j cat's bsck. UlSttSS lllui.vlf. "i'h ase. Mr. PoUcafflan, hao you i gaga u ludy that has lost A little hoy 7 ON, If so, I'm that MUo hoy." WUSIUAl l-ROCHAM I ally Uuafdi Sag I The p i el) ai ( . 'iiie of the n stilutt. i xsielaea of t da) i ibe add ms being given tbia r ft. rn-inn by J H Aekerniao, ti... .,; . nut. iidet t of public Instruc tion, who la talking along in dem adu BMlnual lin s included in the exerebajB la a piano sol., i.y Miss Beatrice Ration ul Oregon City, a very tal tiled perfbrmer, and a Vim I iluet b) M ra It O Brook and Mr K I. it -si, r Ihe attendance contin ues j) d dUI ing I he session. I" ev Hot Springs. Allgll-t I, 'I'll. Km ion KuagNH GUAHP: I bore wiin .mil you i he names al guests hii.I i i i p is in pping hi Pnlej Springs I hope you in Hud space In your popu I lar p p.'i til i ul. lis., ihe aatliei Kloia lit . . IMn Broek, HalH, Or.) Rev il r Mien, wire an.) . Idien, Tan g .ii ; Mrs Mart and Brural Sill ier, Albany; V it Kltlay, Mo-co, Ida '.. ; Mr- Mil. ray, in Jose, Oal Mis gj m Morrlaon, Portland; Oal Jouaa, Ha t. io; Mr- u Oaupt ell, Bugeos; Geo I' i ..'a man and Herbert Moreh, Co b ug; t' Cleaver, wife and eon, Baleen V . I Mo oli lilt and wif. , lDrtlaud J My rlok and wife, Los Angles, Cal; II It Ma I Wife, Portland; (iinndpa i MuMlnnvillei t'lark V rbompaoUi LaOroaae, WUjHtlmus w rbompeou, Bugene; Oeo B Btreeter, Miss Jaaelo L ntneter, 0 ll Lewis, Portland) DOorn ier, Nij. e, Mo; RI Wllllama, BO B kpatrlek, Mis kfary V Klrkpalriek, I iiias, or;J P Bekwy, C II llorr, lope, Or; Patrick t'an- navan, Port bind, Jori Ware, jr., Ku , am ; Wall Hi dee, Bugeoe. Toe li UN i- ctoded, Pill there is ai ays room fttr more. v.. ms tesp, otfully. A. A. Hah.kmikk. N. w ( BM llll its. T A Powell, of I ilsey, has received a 1st rl ni lbs Portland spoilsmen in aiiiuh they i iy tbey have raised 8 ii 1,1 brlnii luu i airs ul Reaves phaaa- ai ls to the Vatlej ai d (urn litem loose. Mi I'uwell It I been Working along this due for aoms tine and baa Inier Bated a number ot Linn county -p., us tii. nl the malli r. The Purl laud men M) that k" win isi neosseary in order to si cure t he number i birds wanted and tbey ask that Mr Powell raise a i ait. . i tin- shortage Ltnnononty. Tbablrdian a vary tine gamebtrd and ii i .n.ul.t out local spoilsmen will aid In i.iiuglug tbem t" the valley. Contributions to the fund can Is-sent to Ml Powell ill llalsey who will for- ward all amounts n . eivci to the Port laud commlttse Aboul t.-u has iu s il al lliil-.y, iin.l oilier towns will urobabli oontrlbote. .1 .- p. i Jolt logs. Auguat 4. Tl e. ry at Ibis place Is pi enlxcd by f persona eaeb day, ( VuatlU, a lieu initvalhelc from i mi, li . una to Hum.-, B astern Irsgon, Rulsj Renfro ia bulldl gen '.-mo a." he iii. i on ai , i.iiiif.hi fruui Jol.tl -1 ell) . Wu, R see tiy bougbl a span oi borseSi id upou placing them In pasture with other horses, olio of tbam was kleked ao badly tbal n was neces tu y lo kill It. Kills Calllson of Pleasant Hill, met ith a s. vcte accident on Monday last. WllMe el. gaged III driving cattle his bone nil, throwing blm on the hard ground with such force as to Injure one i i ai ihoulden v.-ry badly. A largM amount of eawtoga, telegraph s.h al . ISttCe peats have been Hunted posi . sre tbe present seeaou, and now QBVl : n is llllH'.lrd by NSI cards of llr w ...I, which is sold In Kugeue. i i will be tallowed In a le.v days w, li a like amount of luimwisid, to ba converted Intasxeabuor ut the new laotory suoo to be I coated In y.ur tow I . A gieal deal Is said th u days ah, u ' . x;...i SlOUi" and it Is not al- v ij - u an iry to go t.. the PhtUppioe I tiaui s 10 observe Ihe same. A Widow Imly will. i(Uit a respectable nuinlr of children, and a CiUaOU of tills place, were neentry united In marriage, tbos cau. li g the bitter to liecorue re- pouathla tar tbe maintenance of nine unoos Instead "i nine. On this oeea- siou tin i,. -' io .1..-number of two dessu made mgt.i bideoua win a arnnade, Mi 8. Oarpenien, painten and other aae- ebaniee report Ihle one or me omhbi - i s (or a number of years. O o