The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) 1881-current, December 10, 1922, Section One, Image 1

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    IPO Pages
Eight Sections
Section One
Pages 1 to 24
VOL. XLI XO. 50
Entered at Portland (Oregon
Postoffice as Second-class Matter.
PORTLAND, OREGON. SUNDAY MORNING, DECEMBER 10, 1922
PRICE FIVE CENTS
ASTORIA IS SPLIT
Oil RELIEF PLANS
GOTHAM CLAMPS LID
ON NAUGHTY DANCES
RELIEF SPECIAL
ASTORIA FIRE LOSS
COURT FLAYS HENRY1
FOR ARRESTING "ME"
HAND'S CAST PROVES
SPIRITS, SAYS DOYLE
PROGRESS IDE
'TO AT $15,000,000
SENT TO ASTORIh1 ;
RESORT PROPRIETORS TOLD
THEY WILL BE ARRESTED, f
,t OF REMAKING STREETS
IS INCLUDED. ,
CASE OF EDITOR WHITE IS
DECLARED OUTRAGE.
PARAFFIN' FORMS DECLARED
DEVELOPED AT SEANCE.
LUPTDN'S VICTORY
Li TO PIERCE
reparations
Disruption May Result in
Military Control.
GOVERNMENT CRAFT ANCHOR
Acting Governor Ritner Con
fers With Business Men.
BANKS TO OPEN MONDAY
Scripts Will Be Issued to Citizens
to Exchange for Food
and Clothing.
ASTORIA, Or., Dec. 9. (Special.)
Political controversy has arisen in
Astoria and threatens to disrupt all
local control of the relief and re
habilitation work and may result in
the placing of the city under com
plete military control. The differ
ence seems to have arisen between
Mayor Bremmer and O. B. Setters,
mayor-elect, when the latter re
fused to give his approval to a proc
lamation proposed by the mayor,
giving a committee of nine, headed
by Major W. S. Gilbert, supreme au
thority in coping' with everything
concerning the present crisis. This
executive committee, of which
Mayor Bremmer is a member, was
In session throughout the afternoon.
Various heads of departments had
been chosen, and an outline of the
work tentatively approved when
Mayor Bremmer presented his proc
lamation. Proclamation Not. Approve. .
He declared that he favored its
Issuance to be followed by confir
mation by the present council as
well a, the mayor-elect and the five
men who January 1 will serve on
the commission to replace the pres
ent council.
Mayor - elect Setters was in the
courthouse where the executive
meeting was in progress but he did!
net attend the meeting. However,
several members of the committee
withdrew and it is presumed that
they conferred with him. He In
formed this committee, as well as
newspaper men, that he would not
approve the proclamation until the
members of the incoming council
had given their approval. Because
,f the bitter fight waged by va
rious factions during the campaign
preceding the municipal election in
November, there is considerable fear
on the part of prominent people here
that this approval will not be given.
"While members 01 the incoming
commission refuse to discuss the
situation, it is understood that they
hesitate to empower the executive
committee with broad authority for
fear that by so doing they will be
surrendering the power of the new
commission.
Local Control Preferred. .
The members of the executive com
mittee do not wish to assume con
trol of the present situation unless
they do so with the approval of the
men who have been elected to take
over office on the first of the year.
A meeting will be held tomorrow
r.orning with members of the incom
ing commission, as well as the coun
ciimen now in office, when an effort
"will be made to reach an agreement
that will permit the carrying on of
the essential work of relief and re
habilitation. It Is pointed out that
ii a deadlock occurs military control
is inevitable. The residents of the
c:ty are said to favor local control,
however, and every effort is to be
made by those not directly involved
in the Imbroglio.
Kxe.atlvr Staff Numbers Ten.
The executive committee of safety
Is composed of ten men headed by
Chaplain Gilbert. All of the men on
this committee have property inter
ests in the city and the majority of
them have been identified with the
building of the area destroyed. The
other members of the committee are
Frank Patton, cashier of the Astoria
Savings hank; W. F. McGregor, pres
iConcluded on paife 18, column S.)
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Scandal Walk and Chicken Shaker
Xo Longer to Be Tolerated;
Police Get Instructions.
NEW YORK, Dec. 9. New Tork
today was washed by a terpsichor
ean reform wave.
Proprietors of 400 public dance
halls in the greater city were
warned by Mrs. George W. Loft, po
lice commissioner, that they would
be jailed if they did not put a stop
to "indecent demoralizing dancing."
"We have tried to regulate danc
ing with women police," said Mrs.
Loft, "and we have failed. The reg
ular police force, therefore, has been
ordered to arrest proprietors and
floor managers who permit viola
tions of the dancing rules we have
made.
"Cheek to cheek dancing and
movements known as the scandal
w;alk, the cradle rock, the Chicago
camel, the syncopating shimmy and
the chicken shaker, are terrible.
They must cease."
NEW MAIL BOX SUCCESS
Compartments Keep City and
Out-of-Town Mall Separate.
"WASHINGTON, D. C, Bee. 9. Rec
ords kept by the postoffice depart
ment during the past two weeks on
"double compartment boxes in this
city indicate the probability, it was
announced today, that similar boxes
soon would be placed in all the
larger cities of the country. The
boxes have two slots, one for local
mail and one for the out-of-town
mail.
Only 6 per cent of the mail taken
from the experimental boxes here
was found in the wrong: compart
ment. RATES TO, BE REPEATED
Excursion iFares of Last Year Are
Promised for 1923.
CHICAGO, Dec. 9. The Transcon
tinental Passenger association an
nounced today that summer excur
sion round-trip fares from Califor
nia, Nevada, Oregon, Washington
and British Columbia to eastern des
tinations will be the same for 1923
as were in effect this year.
Similarly, excursion fares from
Chicago, St. Louis, Memphis, New
Orleans and territory west to Cal
ifornia and the north Pacific coast
in effect in 1922 will be maintained
next summert
HARVARD FACES DEFICIT
Cost of Running University More
Than $6,000,000 Annually.
CAMBRIDGE. Mass.. Dec. 9. It
costs more than $6,000,000 a year to
run Harvard university. The annual
statement of the treasurer, Charles
C. Francis Adams, made public to
day, shows that the total expendi
ture reached the sum of $6,045,071,
involving, an operating deficit of
$77,536.63 for the year ended June 30.
The deficit, however, was much
smaller than that of the preceding
year, when the university ran be
hind more than $338,000.
CUBA TO GETBIG LOAN
$50,000,000 Financial Operation
Arranged Privately.
KEY WEST, Fla., Dec. 9. Nego-
tiatie for a private loan of
$50,00' 00 to Cuba virtually have
been completed, according to Dr.
Carlos Manuel de Cespedes, Cuban
secretary of state.
Mr. Cespedes left here las night
for Havana, after having spent sev
eral weeks In this country in con
ference with government officials in
Washington and with financiers.
WISE VOTERSJOWA IDEA
State Commission Proposes Lit
eracy Test for All.
DES MOINES, Dec. 9. The state
Illiteracy, commission will ask the
coming legislature to enact a law
making it compulsory for all Iowa
voters to pass a literacy test before
being allowed the exercise of the
right of suffrage.
The commission so resolved yes
terday.
'
15 Cars Carry S;nes
to Stricken City.
$50,000 MORE IS PROMISED
Food, Clothing, Fuel and
Bedding Arrive Safely.
PORTLAND GIVES FREELY
Other Towns Throughout State
Also Rally to Aid of Ref
ugees of Big Fire.
Relief efforts for the stricken
people of Astoria, started Friday
on receipt of news of the terrible
conflagration there, were followed
up in splendid manner yesterday by
the people of Portland.
A special train of 15 cars loaded
with supplies, calculated to care for
the 2500 homeless and destitute for
ten days, was dispatched yesterday
afternoon. This train, which had
food, clothing, fuel and bedding, was
scheduled to reach Astoria shortly
after 6 o'clock last night.
$50,000 to Be Raised.
Portland will raise $50,000, or
more if necessary, to take care of
the Astorians made homeless by the
fire, it was decided at a meeting of
the special Astoria relief committee
held at the Chamber of Commerce
yesterday morning. At that time
Mayor Baker and Chamber of Com
merce officials met with the com
mittee, which was presided over by
O. W. Mielke, president of the
chamber, and plans were laid for a
systematic campaign of relief.
Other consignments of supplies
will be sent as needed, it was an
nounced, and at the same time the
special finance committee appointed
at yesterday's meeting will optfn a
campaign to raise the money to
finance the relief work.
Five Cars Carry Food.
Tire special train, which left yes
terday afternoon, represented the
open-hearted -efforts of citizens of
Portland, city officials and the spe
cial relief committee to take care of
the crisis which had presented itself.
Five cars were loaded with food and
provisions, four with coal and six
with merchandise The train pulled
out with J. C. Moore, city passenger
againt of the Spokane, Portland &
Seattle railroad, in charge. The rail
road company gave free transporta
tion for the train.
A list of necessities required by
the citizens' committee ,at Astoria,
headed by Rev. W. S. Gilbert, was
received at Portland by Mayor Baker
and W. D. B. Dodson Friday night,
and within less than 24 hours from
that time the necessities were in
Astoria on the special train.
Realty Board Gives Coat.
Three carloads of coal for the des
titute werg the gift of the Portland
Realty board, which proved one of
the leaders in -taking up work for
the relief of the Astorians. This
organization raised slightly more
than $1700 Friday, following the re
ceipt of the news of the disaster.
About $300 worth of supplies were
sent down to the stricken town that
same night. H. G. Beckwith, presi
dent of the realty board, said, yes
terday that his organization was
ready to follow this work up with
anything else which was required
in the way of relief.
It was announced yesterday that
the Red Cross and the Hotelmen's
association had both pledged $5000
for the relief work. The Rotary
club pledged $3000, R. A. Booth
$1000 and the Associated Industries
$500.
Silverton Gives $500.
Mayor Baker said that he had
received word from Mayor Eastman
of Silverton announcing that that
city had raised $500 to aid its sister
city in distress.
A long-distance call from the Se-
(Concluded on Page 20, Column 1.)
PICTORIAL SIDELIGHTS ON SOME RECENT NEWS EVENTS BY
SEAL ON T UOOK
Sewers, Telephone and Power
Conduits 'and Gas and Water
Pipes Also Destroyed.
ASTORIA. Or., Dec 9. (Special.)
A total loss of $15,000,000 or more,
some covered by insurance ranging
from 40 to 80 per cent, was esti
mated by several conservative
bankers today after surveying the
situation.
The increase in the original esti
mates resulted when the cost of re
building streets in the city was
taken into account. This cost alone
is estimated at not less than $1,500,-"
coo.
Many of the streets in the devas
tated area were built on viaducts
and this condition alone is respon
sible for the wide sweep of the fire
tefore it was brought under con
trol.
If lower insurance rates are to
be obtained, these streets must be
rebuilt by sand fills and this type
will cost considerably more than
the viaduct plan.
Sewers, telephone and power con-
luits, gas and water pipes hav
been destroyed and all ot these must
be replaced.
Officials of the various public
service corporations have been
bending all efforts towards Restora
tion of service and therefore no re
liable estimate of losses has been
made by them. Revised heavy prop
erty losses compiled today included
the following:
Bee Hive department store. .$205,000
Astoria Savings Bank bide.. 200.000
Stradan apartments 150,000
Astoria Furniture company, b&.uuu
Skallerud Dry Goods comp'y 75.000
First National Bank building 90,000
Weinhard hotel building 150.000
Astoria Hardware company. 45.000
Burke' & Co 35.000
Extrom company 35,000
A. Y. Spexarth 30.000
Owl Drug company 45,000
Farr Drug company 38,000
N. Nelson furniture house... 50,000
Astoria Budget building 35,000
Morning Astorian building.. 38.000
Fisher Brothers 60,000
The losses or merchants in most
instances was much larger than
would have been the case had the
conflagration occurred at any other
time of the year. Heavy Christmas
stocks were carried by nearly all
the merchants. Filing of inventories
and estimates of building losses will
be started tomorrow in the court
house by the Portland Association
of Credit Men and Insurance Ad
justers.
The Credit Met;;- sr ociatlon is do
nating its service und has detailed
G. W. Ingram and M. D. Munson
to carry on this work.
It is expected that the bulk of
estimates will have been made
within two weeks, although in cases
of merchandise losses duplicate in
voices will be required, and this is
certain to slow up the work of in
surance adjustment.
Several of the insurance companies
plan to erect temporary offices here
early next week and aid so far as
possible the policy holders who are
now in distress.
Next to the adjustments the ques
tion of future' insurance rates ie
considered of utmost importance
Property owners who have suffered
losses in the fire are determined to
rebuild the city in such a manner
as to gain lower rates, and confer
ences between the property owners
and insurance men will be started
immediately.
REGISTERED MAIL TAKEN
Three Unmasked Men Hold Vp
Clerks at St. Joseph, Mo.
ST. JOSEPH, Mo., Dec. 9. Three
unmasked men armed with revolvers
and a shotgun held up two mail
clerks at the Union station early
Friday and escaped in a waiting: au
tomobile with one package of regis
tered mail and five packages of
first-class mail, which had just been
taken from the mail car of the
Chicago, Burlington & Qulncy pas
senger train No. 23, en route from
Kansas City to Omaha,
No estimate of the value of the
loot has been secured.
DRYS LOSE IN ANTIPODES
290,566 Vote Against to 272,443
for Prohibition.
(Chicago Tribune Foieign News Service.)
WELLINGTON. N. Z.; Dec. 9. The
final vote on prohibition was 290,568
against, 272,443 for and 34,261 for
state control.
The official count has just been
completed. .
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Judge Dismisses Action With Dec
laration That Injustice Has
Been Done Writer.
EMPORIA, Kan.. Dec. . 9. The
state's case against William Allen
White, Emporia editor, charged
with violating the industrial court
law by placing a placard in the win
dow of his newspaper, was dismissed
this afternoon in district . court.
Judge Harris presiding.
i Mr. White appeared at the court
with his attorney.
In dismissing the case. Judge W.
C. Harris declared the rumors aris
ing from the state's refusal to bring
the case to trial had done Mr. White
an injustice and the judge flayed
the administration of Governor
Henry J. Allen for tne way in which
it had been handled.
"This case, was commenced mall
ciously or recklessly, without inves
tigation of the facts to ascertain
whether the prosecution was juS'
tified," the judge said. White, in a
statement after the hearing, de
clared he had -been "ku kluxed" and
"by a court that aid not have the
guts to pull out their shirt-tails
and give a Ku Klux parade."
The case will be dismissed on the
application of the state at its cost.
"Of course, I am bitterly dlsap-
jointed at the outcome of this case,"
Mr. White said in a staatement to
night. "I was arrested during the
late railroad strike for posting in
my window a placard "declaring
half-way sympathy with the strike,
in "which I did not wholly believe.
The governor had ordered all
placards down. I defied his order
in order to test the case in the court
because good lawyers said it was an
illegal order. The test was brought
because I feel that Governor Allen
in his anxiety to make the indus
trial court function, overstepped the
law in his order forbidding an out
side party to the controversy to ex
press any temperate opinion about
the controversy and because I sin
cerely feel it was against good pub
lic policy. The principal I raised
never has been decided in the courts.
Here was a chance to decide it.
"Now, to understand exactly why
the state did hot want it decided,
a few facts must be known. First,
the attorney-general advised the
governor against making the arrest,
declaring that I had not violated
the picketing law, and the attorney
general would not draw up the war
rant. Judge Huggins, chairman of
the industrial court, declared pub
licly that I had, violated no law. He
agreed with the attorney-general,
but Judge McDermott of the indus
trial court felt that an arrest
should be made, and is responsible
for the warrant, signed by a clerk
in the governor's office. The war
rant alleged two things for which
there was not the slightest evidence
and that Is why Judge McDermott
is afraid to have it tried. The two
things were a charge of conspiracy
with three men I never saw
or heard of and a charge that I
had stopped Santa Fe trains, which
is silly. Now, the reason these two
tricky charges were made was to
prevent me from going immediately
in the-supreme court and demand
ing relief on a habeas corpus. This
I could have done if the warrant
had been drawn merely alleging the
fact in the case. I begged the gov
ernor to amend the warrent in ac
cordance with the undisputed facts
so that he could get the supreme
court to decide the fundamental
question in the supreme court. I
had assurance before he left for the
governor's conference in the east
that some way would be found to
get the case into the court. But
Judge McDermott vetoed him. . . .
"Under the promise of the trial, I
asked that the placards come down
and they came down all over the
state. I am now denied a trial, and
what is more, the state has not
dared to try anyone else for display
ing that poster, though ban&s, big
stores, hotels and offices all over
Kansas displayed the objectionable
placards.
"It all amounts to this: This In
dustrial court law, which I believe
was written to establish law and or
der in industrial controversies, will
never stand In the books if under it
men are arrested on tricky warrants
that the state dare not defend in the
courts." ,
OUT. 6f HIS l?OLfl"U6r4
AT LAST
Governor-elect Organiz
ing Friendly Forces.
SECRET BODIES IN CONTROL
Way Paved for Co-operation
With House and Senate.
FIGHTS ARE IN PROSPECT
Legislators Line Vp for Commit
tee Chairmanships; Eddy
Camp Still Hopeful.
Influence of Walter M. Pierce,
democratic governor-elect, had much
to do in preventing the eastern
Oregon bloc from bolting Jay Upton
for president of he state senate.
Mr. Pierce Is desirous of having the
lower and upper branches of the
legislature organized in a way
friendly to him and this, apparently,
is being accomplished.
The secret societies which sup
ported Pierce .against Ben W.
Olcott, incumbent, for governor,
have, with a number of the demo
cratic representatives, control of
the house and will function with
the executive office. Mr. Pierce's
Influence, working through demo
crats, has saved Upton and pre
vented the election of B. L. Eddy as
presiding officer of the senate.
Thus Mr. Pierce has paved the way
for co-operation with both legisla
tive branches, so far as the organ
ization of each is concerned.
Robertson Stays by Ipton.
Senator Strayer, democrat, de
clared his intention of remaining
with Upton when there was an in
clination among some of the eastern
Oregon bloc to desert. Senator
Strayer had a conference with
Senator Ellis in Baker when the
latter was on his way to the caucus
at Pendleton and Ellis arrived at
the meeting prepared to stand by
Upton. Senator Kobertson, who ac
tually brought about the candidacy
of Upton and secured the backing
of the bloc for the Crook county
senator, remained firm to his first
love. This left Senators Ritner,
Dennis and Taylor, who were dis
satisfied with the conditions in the
Upton camp, in a minority, for the
pact of the bloc is for the seven to
stand pat and' the action of four to
govern the rest. Senators Dennis,
Ritner and Taylor were a minority,
for they could not bring over Ellis,
Strayer or Robertson. Senator
Upton,' seventh member of the dele
gation, absented himself from the
meeting so his friends could settle
the matter among themselves.
Campaign's Course Devious.
The campaign for presidency of
the senate has followed a devious
course, with plots, counter-plots,
compacts, treaties, double-crossing
and misunderstandings. Originally
there was an ironclad pact between
the seven senators from east of the
mountains, that they would stand
together. It was this pact which
finally determined the fate of
Upton's candidacy last Wednesday.
There was an agreement between
certain of the gddy forces and Gu
Moser that they would not deal with
the eastern Oregon bunch. There
was also an understanding that the
eastern Oregon delegation and the
Eddy camp would not accept Moser.
When Upton accepted Moser's
vote this made some of the eastern
Oregon bloc feel that their arrange
ment with Senator Corbett of the
Eddy camp jvas disturbed. Now
Ritner and Dennis are viewed by
forces friendly to Eddy as having
broken the faith with the Eddy sup
porters; Moser has exposed the
agreement between himself and the
Eddy forces not to dicker with the
bloc and some of the bloc members
are peeved at Senators Joseph and
Staples for the agreement made
with Moser not to deal with the
Concluded Ou Fape tt.' Column
CARTOONIST PERRY.
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toNN HILL ON VHS. S-&l'
Pyschic Champion Assails Re
ward Offered for Convincing
Proof of Phenomena.
(By Chicago Tribune Leased Wire.)
NEW TORK, Dec. 9. The J5000
reward offered by the Scientific
American for convincing proof of
spiritualistic phenomena is assailed
by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in a let
ter, which the British novelist and
psychic champion has written to the
publication. This offer will attract
the fakirs, deter those with genu
ine powers and muddle things gen
erally, according to Sir Arthur,
whose letter is printed in the Janu
ary Scientific American.
Among other arguments in favor
of the occurrence of supernatural
things Sir Arthur incloses a photo
graph of a paraffin cast of a hand.
This hand was Materialized at a se
ance, the wax applied to it and the
hand then dematerialized or evapor
ated leaving the paraffin glove,
This proof is especially cogent, ac
cording to the British knight, since
an ordinary human hand could not
be withdrawn from such a mold
without breaking it.
In spite of the achievements ot
Houdini in this respect, Sir Arthur
asserts that the wrist openings in
the paraffin casts are too small for
the palms to have been withdrawn
through. The possibility that an
artificial hand was used and that
the material of the hand was later
dissolved out of the paraffin mold,
as is the case in taking some kinds
of casts in artistic work, is not dis
cussed. 5,000,000 T0NEED AID
Amcrcans Expected to Take Care
of 4,000,000 Russians.
NEW YORK, Dec. 9. More than
5,000,000 Russians must get relief
this winter. Colonel William L.
Haskell, chief representative in
Russia of the American relief ad
ministration, declared today on his
arrival on the steamship Berengarla.
Of this -number, he said, the
American relief workers will care
for 4,000,000; tha others will receive
relief :rom the soviet government
MARSHALL IS OUTSIDER
Ei-YIce-President Has to Show
Senate Chamber Page.
WASHINGTON, D. C. Dec. 9.
Former Vice-President Marshall vis
ited the capitol today but was barred
from the senate chamber by a
diminutive page boy.
"That's all right; I used to work
here," Mr. Marshall said, but the
page, the youngest and newest of
the flock, refused to admit the for
mer vice-president until he was well
introduced. V
KLAIMSMEIM TO LOSE JOBS
New York City Employes cMust
Not Be Ku Klux Members.
NEW TORK, Dec. 9.Kew York
city employes holding: membership
in the Ku Klux Klan will be dis
charged when their identities are
learned, Commissioner of Accounts
Hirschfield declared today.
An investigation .- reports that
the klan was making a membership
campaign among the municipal
workers Vill be made.
RAINS ARE PREDICTED
Normal Temperature for Coast Is
Forecast for Week.
WASHINGTON, T. C, Dec. 9.
The weather outlook for the week
beginning T'onday follows:
Pacific states Normal tempera
ture, considerable cloudiness, occa
sional rains.
INJURED BISHOP DIES
Automobile Accident Results Fa
tally to K. G. Waterhouse.
KNOXVILLE, Tenn., Dec 9.
Bishop R. G. Waterhouse, who was
Injured by an tutomobile here
Thursday night, died this afternoon.
He did not regain consciousness
after the accident.
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France Considers Ger
man Moratorium.
GUARANTEES ARE ASKED
Britain Intimates Reconsid
ering Voiding Debts.
NOTHING DEFINITE DONE
Bonar Law Creates Sensation by
Announcement at Confer
ence of Premiers.
LONDON, Dec. 9. (By the Associ
ated Press.) The clouds that over
hung the reparations conference last
night have been partly dispelled by
today's proceedings. The four pre
miers Bonar Law, Poincare, Theu
nys and Mussolini held two meet
ings lasting five hours. There was
nothing approaching an agreement,
nor had any agrement been expect
ed from one day's deliberations.
The chief result was something
more nearly approaching an under
standing in the positions of the two
principal nations. Great Britain and
France, than had existed at any
time during the last few weeks.
France Makes Conceasloa.
M. Poincare offered, in behalf of
France, acceptance of a two years'
moratorium for Germany, provided
satisfactory guaranties are forth
coming. These guaranties embraced
measures for economic control of
the Rhineland industries and partial
occupation of the Ruhr district, 1th
a division of soldiers to collect cus
toms on the coal output. M. Poin
care did not consider that this pro
gramme would be regarded as mili
tary action against Germany;
Premier Bonar Law's reply, which
came in the afternoon, after M. '
Polncare's exposition of France's at
titude in the morning, surprised the
French because It Indicated that
Great Britain might, under satisfac
tory conditions,' abandon the atti
tude laid down in the Balfour note
and cancel the French debt to Eng
land. Law's Opposition Discussed.
Mr. Bonar Law's opposition to
military measures to compel Ger
many to pay and the reduction of
the German indemnity to approxi
mately 40,000,000,000 gold marks
was discussed.
Premiers Poincare and Mussolini
were the chief speakers at the
morning session. The Italian pre
mier was reported to have advanced
some proposals, the nature of which
has not yet been revealed.
Karl Bergmann, German financial
expert, arrived today and presented
Chancellor Cuno's proposal to Pre
mier Bonar Law. The plan is said
to embrace allied participation In
German Industries instead of an ex
ternal loan. America and cancella
tion of Europeans' debt to that
country was one of the topics
touched upon in the morning.
Sensation Is Created.
Premier Bonar Law caused a sen
sation this afternoon when, in the
course of his reply to M. Poincare's
moratorium plan, he gave clear in
dication that the British govern,
ment would be quite willing to re
consider the question of concella
tion of the French debt, provided
such a step was made possible by a
reparations settlement satisfactory
to Great Britain.
The premiers devoted much time
at both the sessions they , held to
discussion of the attitude of the
United States with respect to the
allied debts, it was learned after the
conference had adjourned for the
day.
Regarding cancellations. Premier
Poincare of France said ho was
willing that the German indemnity
be reduced to 40,000,000,000 gold
marks provided England canceled
France's debt to her and France be
given a larger percentage of cash
payments.
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