THE SrNDAY OKEOOXTAN. PORTLAND. DECEMBER 11. 1921
POET-PREACHER USES PAINTINGS TO CONVEY
SPIRITUAL MESSAGE TO HIS LISTENERS
Appreciation of Art Essential to True Understanding of Religion, Says Rev. Branford Clarke, Who Has Set
Church World Agog by His Innovation in Preaching. ,
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DO you appreciate true art? If
not you cannot hope to have a
true understanding of religion.
Such, at any rate, Is the belief of
Rev. Branford Clarke, known as the
poet-palnter-prcacher, who has set the
ecclesiastical world agog by a new
innovation In preaching. As senior
pastor of the Pillar of Fire church
lit Brooklyn, N. Y.. he has just inau
gurated a new system la preaching,
whereby all of his sermons are drawn
around oil pointings executed by him
self on religious and allegorical sub
jects. Without a proper appreciation of
art there can be no real appreciation
of religion, declares this young artist-preacher,
whose work with the
pen and brush has won praise from
art connoisseurs In both this country
and Europe.
What is art and what is truth, are
questions that have Interested many
generations. According to Rev. Mr.
Clarke, It Is the divine In either one.
Their relationship Is far closer than
people generally imagine, he believes,
And by associating his own particular
;rt with his preaching he hopes to
utilize it in the uplift of humanity.
Mr. Clarke, although only 34 years
of age, already has had a remarkable
career, one as distinct and individual
as that of the Pillar of Fire church,
acd of which faith he is a member.
Art Deflrn Definition.
He Is quiet and reserved in man
ner, but when he apeaks of his church
and his work his brown eyes flash In
the manner of an inventor who has.
Just struck a new Idea that he be
lieves Is destined to startle a critical
ly blase world. And he believes that
his method of Illustrating- his ser
mons by the use of oil paintings
means much more to humanity than
any invention ever created by 'he
master mind of a genius.
"As Is generally conceded," said Mr.
Clarke, "true art defies definition.
However, It is also as certain that in
real art there is a touch t the divine.
The real trouble is that the masses
ai a rule are unfamiliar with the true
tenets of real art, with the result that
in the past art has lent its contribu
tions to the wrong channels.
,"For example, the populace want
Jazz with their art. And it is not so
much that they want it as that they
hive been educated to want It. They
have been catered to by the licentious
in art, with the result that the art of
today needs elevating. And. speaking
or art, I refer not only to painting
but to music and writing. All these
(rms of art should and can be In
cluded in the uplifting of humanity."
The rndical young clergyman then
went on to explain In just what man
ner he hopes to use the art of paint
ing as a medium in the uplift of hu
manity. Art Vitalizes Ilrllg-lon.
. "Without a true understanding of ;
art one cannot hope to have a true
understanding of religjon," he con
tinued. "It is for this reason that 1
have inaugurated a system of preach
ing whereby I use paintings as assets
to the text. Understand, however,
that the paintings I use are only as
sets. The theme, of course, is taken
from the Bible."
A-U the paintings utilized in his ser
ntoiis by Kev. Mr. Clarke are of his
own creation and a different one is
employed with every sermon. Per
haps the most striking of these paint
ings is one entitled "God's Truth Is
Marching On." This Is an emblemati
cal picture of truth painted in a most
strikingly original manner.
' It depicts the head of Christ as
flam- of fire. Protruding from the
reouth may be discerned a two-edged
sword, typical of the cutting charac
teristics of truth. The figure as
drawn is shown striding across the
Universe, pushing aside the dark
clouds. In one hand the figure holds
seven stars, symbolical of perfection,
while a view of infinite space forma
the background for the whole.
, It Is through the medium of this
ajid other paintings that Mr. Clarke
hopes to educate the masses In art,
with a resultant education in religion.
For a sermon which may be visualized,
he believes, is imbedded on the mind
In a manner not loon forgotten,
Salvation Sole Alss.
Rev. Mr. Clarke was cradled In an
atmosphere "f, art, but has been
through a great struggle to maintain
his Ideals and use them to one end
the salvation of man. His successes
as an art student were unusual, as
exemplified in his winning or scholar
ships which gave him years or free
tuition under some of the best mas
ters of Europe, prominent among
these scholarships being those af
forded by the Birkbeck institute and
the London County Council.
When he passed his examination to
sit as a probationer in the Royal
Academy school one of the deciding
committee was John S. Sargent. Ar
tiste or International fame recognized
the feeling and poetry in his work
and he was picked as one or the fu
ture great artists. John Seymour Lu
cas said, in criticising one of the
sketches of young Clarke at a sketch
club contest where the exhibitors'
names were not allowed on their
works, "Whoever painted this sketch
has what no technique will give any
man, namely, the unknown quality
that cannot be taught, that must be
God-given art, poetry, soul, which
ever you prefer to call it."
The "poet - painter - preacher" is
heartily opposed to highly-paid minis
ters, believing that high salaries lead
to inside church politics and tend to
make the church bow down to wealth
"To be religious," he remarked, "it
is not necessary for one to go about
with a long face. Religion of today as
a,, rule is altogether too formal, with
the result that it loses much of its
spiritualism. It leans too much on
form and not enough on spirit. And
it is with the hope of Instilling more
or the spiritual as well as love for
the beautiful into the masses that I
am using art as an asset to my
preaching."
NEWS OF THE MOVIE THEATERS
(Continued From First Pare.)
'wedded' to them, although I played
the mother in 'Wall Flowers,' anJ
with a Dorothy GIsh picture I was
quite an ancient person."
Miss Rait Is surprisingly young and
charming when she doffs her make
up, however, and teiis of a lengthy
career in vaudeville and In musical
shows. She was a member of "The
Trained Nurses," a vaudeville success,
and also appeared at the Winter gar
den. She spent several seasons with
Allen Brook in vaudeville.
"I like pictures, however," she says.
"Who could help enjoying working,
with Will Rogers or under the direc
tion of James Cruze? Mr. Rogers
is a constant menace to those who aro
afraid of gaining weight It the adage
'laugh and grow rat' Is to be taken
seriously. Keeping a straight face
while acting with him Is a difficult
task for anyone."
RIVOLI HAS NORTHERN PLAY
Henry Wulthall and Pauline Starke
In Leading Holes.
"'Flower or the North," a James
Oliver Curwood story, with Henry B.
Walthal and Pauline Stark In the
leading roles, is the attractlonat the
Rivoli this week.
"Flower or the North" Is a story of
the advance of civilization with Philip
(played by Henry B Walthall) in the
vanguard breaking the trail. Sinister
and powerful forces are surrounding
him and retarding his work; he Is
a man righting blindrold.
Then the situation is complicated
when he rails in love with a child of
the old regime, Jeanne of Fort o' Ood,
a daughter of the French cavaliers.
There is a charming love story
shrouded in an atmosphere of strug
gle, mystery and foul play. And the
climax comes in the terrific night
battle when the Cree Indians wipe
rfcputa
ole In-
Mrs. Strong's apartment, she makes
herself up charmingly, transforming
her hair and gown and borrowing the.
make-up and perfume of the vamp.
Shipley arrives and In the dim light
of the room he sees only the back of
his wife, of whose Identity he is
ignorant. She proceeds to vamp him
so perfectly and completely that she
Is in his arms when the real vamp
arrives. By clever handling of the
situation the wife makes the vamp's
presence odious to hubby and thus
binds a contract that will stand any
kind of attack.
WILLIAM S. HART JFEATURE D
Popular Film Hero Appears at His
Best In "White Oak."
William S. Hart is the star of
"White Oak," now playing at the
Majestic. Mr. Hart is said to be at
his best In this photoplay, a p c
turesque, commanding figure every
inch a man sterling, true and honor
able despite his calling a gambler.
And he proves that his name of Oak
Miller, really stands for "White Oak,"
for he Is white all the-way through.
This picture Is another or Mr.
Hart's own conceptions. The story
tells of a period he loves the early
days of the west, the days) of the
prairie schooner, the wagon trains,
the long and perilous Journeys across
the deserts and mountains with hid
den enemies lurking in ambush. It Ja
a colorful story with vivid action and
contracts that are startling in their
conception. It Is the age-old tale of,
love and passion and the lust or men
ror wealth. It is the story Of man's
inhumanity to man and woman; of a
strong man's battle and ot a girl's
true affection.
The scenario is by Bennet Musson,
a talented writer, who was in full
sympathy with Mr. Hart's ideas and
transferred them to continuity form
with rare skill.
Lambert Hillyer, responsible ror all
Mr. Hart'3 productions from a direc
torial standpoint, directed "White
Oak."
QUEEN OF SHEBA" TO STAY
Blue Mouse Theater to Retain Film
for Third Week.
Tomorrow the "Queen or Sheba"
will begin Its tnird and last week at
Mr. Hamrick's new Blue Mouse the
ater at Eleventh and Washington
streets.
The production is spectacular.
Thousands of people appear in the
numerous settings and gorgeous cos
tumes make the picture noteworthy.
The "Queen of Shcba" contains
many elaborate scenes. The marriage
6r the Queen or Sheba to King Ar
mud, her arrival at the court of King
Solomon, the day of racing and games,
the thrilling chariot race between
Sheba and Princess Vashti. ttee ar
rival or David, the little Prince or
Sheba, and many other scenes are
massive and interesting.
The romance of the beautiful Queen
and King Solomon is a story so in
tense In Interest that it demands the
closest attention.
Betty BIythe is altogether charm
ing In the exacting role of the queen.
Fritz Lieber is Impressive as King
Solomon and all the other members
of the cast are good.
The pretty sunken-garden effect,
together with the beautiful and spe
cially written musical score that ac
companies the showing of this pro
duction rendered by the Blue Mouse
symphonic orchestra, are two of the
notable features.
I out their white enemies. This Is a
I rilraf the great outdoors. Stately
' fcreSTrushing mountain torrents and
rugged hill country make up the
stage on which the human actors
play their adventurous parts.
Other members of the cast are Em
mett King, whose work in pictures
has won for him an enviable
t:on, and Joseph Rlckson. who
dian interpretations are regarded as
one of the best ever presented. He
has the role of a half-breed. The
heavy is in the hands of Harry North
rup, who is a decided contrast to Jack
Curtis, who plays the evil assistant.
VAMP PICTURE AT PEOPLES
Ethel Clayton Starring in Film
Show This Week.
"Exit the Vamp." starring Ethel
Clayton, is at the People's this week.
The story or the picture is as Tol-
lows:
Marion Shipley is one or those
fweet little perfect wives who wait
on their husbands with rare devotion,
and because of their unselfishness and
consideration for others, are imposed
upon by others. Mrs. Willy Strong,
the vamp, on the border line or social
ostracism, is one who turns to Marlon,
her old school mate, In her troubles,
and Is cordially taken In. While
Marion is busy with her own children
and those ot her sister-in-law, the
vamp shows her gratitude by starting
a riirtation with Marion's husband.
As affairs progress, Shipley guar
antees the vamp's account for a dia
mond necklace. Through the jewelry
salesman, who is a friend of hers,
Marlon discovers this. Taking the
Xauing man as an escort, she goes to
the cafe where her husband and Mrs.
Strong are. dining and sees the lat
ter hand him her apartment key.
Instead of provoking a dramatic!
scene, Marion decides to beat thej
vamp at her own game. Going to I
CONSTANCE TALMADGE COMING
Popular Star Opens at Liberty In
Her Latest Success.
Constance Talmadge in "Woman's
Place," declared to be one of the
brightest and liveliest vehicles yet
given to that popular star. Is the fea
ture offering at the Liberty this
week.
"Woman's Place" is a John Emerson-Anita
Loos story, written es
pecially ror Miss Talmadge, and she
Is said to have a part admirably suit
ed to her talents.
Josephine Gerson, a pretty young
society girl, played by Constance
Talmadge. Is the heroine or the story.
On her return trom Paris she is put
up by the woman's political - league
as a candidate for mayor or the town
in an effort to clean up crooked pol
itics. Beauty is absolutely essential and
brains are negligible, is the logic of
the league's leader.
The old guard politicians pick a
young aristocrat to run in opposition
td the remlnlne candlate, and a most
amusing, romantic an,d extraordinary
serious or incidents follows.
Kenneth Harlan is Copstance Tal
madge'e leading man, and others
prominent In the supporting cast are
Hassard Short, Florence Short, Ina
Rorke, Marguerite Linden and Jack
Connolly.
"Woman's Place" was produced
under the direction or Victor Flem
ing. "MOLLY O" IS AT COLUMBIA
Picture Combines Forces That
Made "Mickey" Supreme.
It was Mack Sennett who flashed
the wit, wisdom, beauty and brilli
ance of "Mickey" to the world.
It was Mack Sennett who has pro
duced another triumph one that will
out-rival "Mickey." and its title is
"Molly O." This picture is at the Co
lumbia this week.
In "Molly O" are again combined
the forces that made "Mickey" su
preme among comedies: Mack Sen
nett, the producer; merry Mabel Nor
mand, the mischievous star; afid F.
Richard Jones, the director.
A Cinderella story is told in "Molly
O" a story bubbling over with com
edy, yet fraught with raun, wu. nu
mor. pathos, beauty, pageantry and
romance, and graced with exquisite
glimpses of human nature.
Miss Normand touches the peaks of
art and the heights of comedy in her
portrayal of a daughter of poverty
struggling against the overwhelming
odds of environment to,reach the up
lands of happiness.
The story of "Molly O" is primarily
strong comedy, but It hs a tense
dramatic background and many of the
incidents in the development of the
plot are sufficiently thrilling so that
it might safely be classed as a melo
drama. ,
The production is the most expen
sive one wklch Mr. Sennett has ever
made, but despite its great cost there
was nothing wasted In It. The locale
or the story runs from the slums of
a great city to the grand ball room
in the most fashionable hotel In the
same city, and the actual require
ments to cover the story resulted in
the building of many lavish and ex
clusive sets.
ALIAS LADYFINGERS AT HIP
New Kind or Crook Play Is Offered
on Bill Starting Today.
An entirely new brand of crook
play will be that In which Bert Lyte.l
Is the star at the Hippodrome thja
afternoon, under the title "Alias
Ladyflngers." This picture Is said to
be an artistic ensemble ot love and
crime cunningly interwoven into a
powerful drama. The story is ger
minated from the mooted question as
to whether good and evil are heredi
tary. It Is trom the pen of Jackson
Gregory and was prepared for the
screen by Lenore J. Coffee. The out
line of the story follows:
By chance tne orphaned child of a
wealthy family comes Into the hands
of a notorious safebreaker and by
him is trained to follow that line f
precarious livelihood. The youth be
comes an expert, and because of his
slim and delicate hands, is known a
"Alias Ladyflngers."
He Is much wanted by the police,
who learn that he is being sought as
the heir of his rich grandmother. The
youth, knowing nothing or this re
lationship, visits the home ot the old
lady Intent upon plying his profes
slonal talents, and Is informed by her
of the relationship. So far Trom wel
coming the chance to live in peace
and security with the girl ot his love,
he determines to work out his own
salvation. '
FAMOUS WAR FILM RETURNS
"Hearts of the World" Is This
Week at the Star.
D. W- Grimth's "Hearts or the
World." famous war picture, returns
to Portland this week at the Star.
Several of the stars who helped to
make "The Birth of a Nation" and
"Intolerance" so successful are seen
in "Hearts of the World."
They are: Lillian Gish, the late
Robert Harron. George Seigman and
Josephine Crowell. Dorothy Gish
plays the part of "the little disturber"
In "Hearts of the World" and fur
nishes the most lively bit of comedy
in the entire production.
Her sister, Lillian, who plays "the
girl" in "Hearts of the World" and
who made the trip to the battlefields
of France with Dorothy and Robert
Harron to make scenes of the big
production, was seen as Elsie Stone
man in "The Birth of a Nation" and
symbolized Walt Whitman's imagin
ary character "out of th-:- eradle'end
less rocking" in "Intolerance."
Josephine Crowell, wh.i took the
part or the "southern mother" In "The
Birth of a Nation" and the vindictive
Queen Catherine de Medici In "In
tolerance." is "the girl's" mother In
"Hearts or the World."
Robert Harron, who plays the male
lead, "the boy," in 'hearts or the
World," impersonated the Stoneman
boy in "The Birth or a Nation" and
played the modern boy In "Intoler
ance." His nemesis in "Hearts of the
World" Is Von Strohm (played by
George Seigman), a villainous Hun
officer and ertswhlle spy. George
Seigman was Silas Lynch In "The
Birth of a Nation" and the leading
villain in "Intolerance."
UNIQUE POSITION ON STAGE
ENJOYED BY NANCE (JNEIL
Actress Has Played in Many Lands and Been Associated With Great
Roles of Foremost Modern Dramatists.
"CAPPY RICKS" CIRCLE BILL
Thomas Meighan Big Attraction in
Thrilling Picturization.
Thomas Meighan in "Cappy Ricks"
is the attraction at the Circle today
and tomorrow. Mr. Meighan is seen
as a seaman In the story, which is
colorrul, dramatic and at times quite
thrilling. It is a picturization or
Peter B. Kyne's stories or the same
Peasley, a sailor's mate, rails
in love with Florrie, daughter or
Cappy Ricks, owner or a fleet of ves
sels, and the latter objects to the
match. The story takes one to the
South Seas, and every scene tollow
ing the murder or Matt's captain, his
thrashing ".' a burly Swede and his
triumphant return home to Florrie,
is rilled with genuine drama. The
action is rapid and the love appeal
charming. Agnes Ayres has the lead
ing teminine role, while Charles Abbe
gives an artistic portrayal ot Cappy.
The picture was directed by Tom
Forman and the photography by
Harry Perry.
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FROM an International standpoint
Nance O'Nell enjoys a unique
position upon the American
stage. She has played In many lands
and been associated to a remarkable
extent with the great roles or" the
foremost modern dramatists. A Call
rornian by birth. Miss O'Nell served
an apprenticeship both in the west
and In the east, where her first ap
pearance was in the national capital.
Her first distinctive creation was
Suderman's "Magda." at that time
regarded as a word of audacity and
one of the earlier of the developed
specimens or the realistic school ot
the drama. Miss) O'Nell was a pioneer
In the production ot "Madga" In
English, although the play was sub
sequently acted 'by Mrs. Fiske and
by Mrs. Patrick Campbell. It is In
teresting to note that Lionel Barry
more was the original Max, and John
Barrymore made his first appearance
on any stage In the same part in Miss
O'Nell's support.
Miss O'Nell's debut took place at
the Alcazar theater, San Francisco,
but it was In Australia that she was
first acclaimed as an artist or high
rank. In the course or her Initial
Australian tour. Miss O'Nell attracted
the attention or Hallam, second Lord
Tennyson, then governor or South
Australia and a son or the poet, and
under the stimulus or his encourage
ment embarked upon a tour or the
English-speaking world," playing
through Australia, New Zealand.
South Arrica and Egypt, concluding
her tour at the Khedival opera house
at Cairo. An engagement followed
at the Adelphl theater, London, after
which Miss O'Nell returned to Amer
lca, remaining ror an entire season In
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anff 0-ll, who ha.fi hniltitojtr
success la maoy lands.
Boston under the management of the
late John B. Schoerrel.
It was during this engagement
that Thomas Bailey Aldrlch composed
his poetic tragedy "Judith or Bethu
11a" ror Miss O'Nell. Judith was pro
duced In Boston, and atterward at
Daly's theater. New York, In reper
tory with "Hedda," "Magda" and
"The Fires or St. John." Judith
achieved a greater success theatri
cally than any other play written by
the New England Brahman group.
Violin Used in Making of
Motion Pictures.
Instrument Help to Reanlate
Tempo of Ai Ion and Attune
Artists to Work.
THE violin Is probably the most
used musical instrument In the
making of motion pictures. It
regulates the tempo of the action,
helps bring a tear or a smile to the
screen player's face, and otherwise
attunes the artists to their work.
A violin player Is present at all
times on every set in the huge Lasky
studio at Hollywood. It Is no un
common thing to hear the strains of
Chopin's funeral march coming from
the stage where Olorla Swanson is
making a dramatic scene which calls
for tears On a "set" near by Betty
I Compson may be registering uncon-
rined Joy to the tunc of Mendelssohn's
spring song. This music is Inter
mingled, perhaps, with "Scy It With
Music" or some other popular soag
from the scene where Agnt-s Ayres
Is working. At the same time Jack
Holt's scene for "While Satan Sleeps"
Is In a merry whirl to the tune of
"Sweet Rosy O'Grady." and Thomas
Melgnan Is registering contrition with
a violin accompaniment of "Hearts
and Flowers."
During the making of "Miss Lulu
Bejt," William DeMille's production,
all the old-fashioned songs were used
to add to the atmosphere and give the
correct tempo to the action. Cecil B.
DeMllle not only tses the violin dur
ing the making of his special produc
tions, but in many cases an organ and
often an entire orchestra. Of course
for all ballroom scenes, banquets and
entertainments, orchestras supplant
the lone violin which does duty
through the more intimate parts of
the action. ,
There is one1 exception to this gen
eral rule at the Paramount studio.
That is round on the stage where
Wallace Reid works. He has a banjo
for musical accompaniment to the
filming of his scenes, for much of the
action Is fast and snappy. The banjo
gives Just the exact tempo. At times,
however, when tears arc needed, the
violin Is used even for Iteld's scenes
The violin has come to be an essen
tial part of motion picture making.
It has been found that acting tor Uie
camera is much easlenewith musical
accompaniment than without. Just as
a motion picture is more enjoyable
in a theater where there Is music
than in one where there Is none.
"It's the way or the drama W
make things that are appear lis
alrl't," says Pat O'Malloy, the ener
getic lover In Oliver Morosco's pro
duction, "Slippery Metier." "When I
was 16 years old I was being cast in
old man parts. Now I'm the dashing
Juvenile. How can you figure it?"
s
From the New York office of Will
lam Fox It Is learned that "Over the
Hill," the picture that ran an entire
year on Broadway, is to be sent
abroad. Negotiations have been com
pleted for sending It to central Europe.
Shanghai, too, is to see it, and Singa
pore. It Is to be eh'ppcd via England
into Russia.
The reason for sending It to these
countries Is that It is a picture thu
appeals to all people of all races and
ot every class.
Director Irvin Wlllat ssya the way
to test an actor Is to go camplni:
with him. Wlllat has Just reluriKxl
from location for "Yellow Men and
Gold." in which Richard Dix plays tho
leading male role. The director put
his O. K. on the actor. He says he's
a fine dishwasher.
see
Arthur Miller, veteran Paramount
cameraman, was sent al the way to
London to grind the crank on (Icortfe
Fitxmaurlce's production or "Thrn
Live Ghosts." the Broadway success
or last season.
Miller, who formerly was a Jockey.
Is among tho best known or American
cameramen. His lighting and photo
graphic errects have created unusual
attention. Among tho notable Para
mount pictures he has photograph1.'!
are "Experience," "On With the
Dance." "Idols or Clay," "Paying the
Piper" and "Petor Ibbctson."
S S
Helen Ferguson says: "Every do.r
has his day. and I guess I'm entitle
to a little bnrk." Miss Ferguson ,
delighted with tho Tact that she ll
playing the feminine lead in "Hungry
Hearts," which caused her to make
this Statement recently.
The final scone has been taken for
"Breaking Through," the spectacular
serial In which I'armcl Myers nnd
Wallace MacHonald played the lead
ing roles. Tho finer shot In the 15th
and concluding chapter was taken 30
miles out at sea on the Pacific neir
Catallna Island and nearly resulted
seriously. In a right In the wsvtsr
over the possession of certain paper:
the screen villain was seised wl'h
cramps and Miss Myers, who
fighting with him. had to use nil her
expertness as a swimmer to save hi.
lire.
'Huh! When I'm Mayor I
Won 't Need a Husband!
So There!"
ALL
THIS
WEEK
CONSTANCE
TALMADGE
Is running for may or on a platform of
style and smile in
"WOMAiYSPLACr
Does she get the men's votes?
Does a duck swim?
Her stump speech is
14 trunks of Parisian gowns!
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Laughs
"The
Fun!
and
More
Fun!
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