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3 moDi Personal Equation in Stop watch Holders Too Great. Ten-Round Bout Scheduled for Milvvaukie June 3. Prices Reduced to$325 ELKS' CARD IS BRILLIANT J PADDOCK CASE IN POINT Controversy Over Great Sprinter's Records Shows Necessity for Scientific Recording. Glassy Events Signed for Armory May 2 7 Under Auspices of Boxing Commission. 2 V THE SUNDAY OREGONIAX, PORTLAND, MAT 1.1, 1921 DM SHADE CHOSEN ACCURATE METHOD OF TIMING NEEDED " r ....... imi ! KICKARD LOOKING OVER SITE OF - DEMPSEY-CARPEN- ' X TIER MATCH. t TO BATTLE BR Hi Hup V V-V.lrf JjVV t 00 BY DICK SHARP. Dave Shade, aggressive Concord. Cal., welterweight, will be pitted gainst Jack Britton, welterweight champion of the world, at the Mil waukee arena June 3, in a ten-round match in which the title will be in volved. Harry Stout of Milwaukee, Wis., will referee the match, as Dan . Morgan, Britton's manager, refused to stand for a Pacific coast official, with Britton's crown at stake. The Milwaukee arena officials de cided upon Shade after giving the welterweight field on the Pacific elope a thorough combing. The choice narrowed down between Shade and Travie Davis, the Everett, Wasb., boy. Shade Is much more aggressive than Davis, hits twice as hard and recent Jy fought Travis a draw in Tacoma with a broken hand. Davis to Meet Brlttra. However, Davis also will get a crack at Britton, having been selected to tangle with the welterweight champion over the four-round route In Seattle May 24. This will give Davis little opportunity to do any thing, as Britton is a wonderful boxer and figures to give anyone a pasting in four rounds. The ten-round route is another question altogether Although Britton might etave off either Shade of Davi3 in four or even six rounds, either of these boys in turn might connect with Britton and should they once hurt the champion, have plenty of time to follow it up, in ten. Shade started training for the match yesterday. Britton has a bout coming up with Johnny Tillman in the middle-west this week and will leave for Portland or Seattle imme diately after the battle. This Week's Card Abandoned. George Moore, manager of the Mil waukie arena, had planned on hold ing his regular weekly card at the Milwaukee fistic emporium this Fri day night, but has been unable to elose with any worthy main-event boys whom he wanted and has about abandoned this week's card. This leaves the field open to the Elks all-star card, which will be staged under the auspices of the Port land boxing commission, at the armory May 27. Matchmaker Evans, who Is work ing with the Elks' boxing committee on arranging the card, has a number I of classy fights in line, whicn win tend to make the Elks' show the big gest event of its kind staged here since the advent of the ten-round came. Every fight on the card will be one that the public wants to see. from the curtain raiser to the triple main event. Three ten-round bouts will headline the bill, with a couple or three six-round mills, rounding out the affair. Pome matches which are under con sideration -for the ten-round main tangles and the six-round prelimi naries are: Bobby Harper versus Oakland Frankie Burns, Leach Cross versus Joe Gorman, Joe Gorman versus Jimmie Dundee. Sammy Gor don versus Danny Edwards, either six or ten rounds: Johnny - Boscovitch versus Jack Edmundson, six rounds: Muff Bronson versus Leo Bell, six rounds: Eddie Gorman versus Niel Zimmerman or Baby Blue, six rounds. One of the three ten-round main events already has been signed. That is the match between Billy Mascott, the Pacific coast's premier bantam weight, and George Lee. the Chinese champion, who has fought Pete Her Iran. Earl Puryear, Midget Smith, Pal Moore and many other of the best bantamweights in the world. Lee's I home is Sacramento and he invaded the east several years ago. He fought Pete Herman a tough 20-round fight when Pete was champion of the world. Before leaving the coast the celestial .battled everything at his weight of any class in California. His ten-j-ound fight against Midget Smith in 'ew Tork was one of the best ban tamweight encounters ever fought in that city. The two battled at Madison Square garden about four months ago, mith winning the verdict after a fruelling setto. i' J " ' ' i ? s - I v & "4 4 s iV Photo Underwood A Underwood. Tex Rlcknrd, In a characteristic poief looking: over the "Marion tectton" site in Aiew Jersey, over which his vast arena Is beintf constructed to accommodate the fans who will take in the world's heavyweight championship flht T OIXDS SMALL OS DE3IPSEY CARPEXTJpR GO. Supporters of American Champ Believed to Hold Wholesome Respect for Frenchman. Billy Shade, who is still In Aus. tralia and is the middleweight cham pion of that country, is returning to this country on the next trip of the JCiagara. which is due in Vancouver about the first of July. His record In Australia is as follows: Hubert Hinton, knockout, two rounds. Tommy U'Ren, knockout, 19 rounds. In this bout Shade won the cham pionship. Fred Kay, knockout, 12 rounds. Francis Charles, knockout. 17 rounds. Charles is the French mid dleweight champion. Ray Lockwood, knockout, eight rounds. Jimmy Clabby. won on a foul after having all the best of the fight, and ' scoring one knockdown. Bill Wuinlan, knockout, four rounds. Leo Patterson and Lawrence Haw kins, two colored boxers, left for Australia last week, where they will engage in a number of boxing matches against the Australians and the Filipinos who are now In Sydney Both Patterson and Hawkins served with the American army in France and both made excellent records in the boxing tournaments held in Paris and other places during the war. Patterson is a lightweight and Hawk ins a bantam. They will be under the care of Gorge Baillieu while in Australia. It is expected that Pat terson will be matched with Dencio. the hard-hitting Filipino, while Hawkins will have Criqui, the French star, for an opponent. Patterson won the A E. F. championship in the lightweight class. One-Legged. Player Steals 2 Bases'. Blackburn, a one-legged youth, was the star in a baseball game between -the Durham and West Durham high school teams, played in Durham, N. C recently. He is the regular catcher for the West Durham team, receiving the ball while perched on the short leg, which has been ampu tated just below the knee. Besides playing errorless ball, Blackburn ob tained two htts and stole two bases, the last stolen base being from sec- ; find to ihifi. j Early wagering on the Dempsey Carpentier ring battle to be fought on July 2 at Jersey City reveals a rather peculiar phenomenon. . Not withstanding that Dempsey is over whelmingly the choice for victor, the odds now quoted are at variance with conditions. While only a small minority of ex perts ventures the opinion that the Frenchman will win the fight, and there is a regular landslide of opin. ;on on Dempsey to knock him out in from one to six or eight rounds, the closeness of the betting and the comparatively small odds offered by the Dempseyites would indicate that they consider Carpentier a genuine danger. Five to seven, two to one. and talk of three to one on the champion to retain his old title have been quoted in the early betting. Cold cash and no sentiment. If sentiment had any part in betting the close ness of the odds might be based on the fact that there is an army of men and women in the United States who have no respect for Dempsey While the court technically gave Dempsey a clean bill of health so far as the charges of slackerism went, It never could wipe out the fact that Dempsey failed to offer his services to his country when the young manhood of the nation was called upon. Hence, if there were any sentiment in the betting it would be for Car pentier. But the relatively small odds are not the outcome of sentiment but rather of a wholesome respect by Dempsey backers for the possi bilities that lie in Monsieur Carpen tier. If this is not the case then the betting ought to be ten to one or more in favor of Dempsey as judged by the cock-sureness of those who favor Dempsey's chances, and their overwhelming numbers. Carpentier now is on the Atlantic erf route to America and in the ap proximately seven weeks which in tervene before the date of the fight, It is incredible to presume that there will not be changes in the quoted odds in the betting. There is no reason to Suppose that Dempsey will not remain the favorite in the wager ing and go into the ring with twice the money, at least, behind him tha' the Frenchman carries. it again. He is credited with a drive of 380 yards in a recent match at the.iloseley club's course, Birming ham, England. He and Vardon were playing in a four-ball match against James Braid and J. H. Taylor in a benefit for F. James, a professional who lost both legs in the war. The 16th hole measures 380 yards, and an account of the match stated that Ray, with a following wind, drove the green and secured a three to re duce the lead to 1 up. The match was played in a hurricane and Braid and Taylor won in the morning by 2 and 1 and. again in the afternoon by 1 up. Dempsey or Carpentier? H Ray He cords Long; Drive. ARRY GREEN', boxing fan and manager of the Rialto' billiard parlors "The fight to me is as a tele graph pole against a lamppost a heavyweight against a middleweight I can't find anything Carpentier has that Dempsey has not. We were told after the war that Carpentier was through as a fighter; that he was no longer the man he used to be. The only thing he has done since then is to knock out Joe Beckett. The only thing Joe Beckett knows. Ilk nearly all of the English fighters, is how to hold his chin. 'I can't see anything but the champion." James J. Richardson, manager of student activities at Oregon Agricul tural college and former boxing ref eree Dempsey will win the first time he hits Carpentier, and I would not be surprised if he hits him in the first round. I don't think the fans In general give Dempsey credit for being the great fighter that he is. have never seen either of the two in action in a real fight, but what said about Dempsey winning the first time ne cracks Carpentier goes." George Cowne "Having seen Car. pentier and Dempsey only In, moving ijii.-iuie, ii is naru 10 araw a con clusion, but I am forced to state that Dempsey takes a better close-up. As actors, both are good fighters. May tne Dest man win. ' Joe Rieg, manager cr Columbia beach and Portland wrestling pro moter "All of my athletic activities have been devoted to the wrestling game. It would be easier for me to pick the next heavyweight wrestling champion. However, since you ask my opinion, I would say Dempsey should win within five rounds." Santa Clara to Send Tennis Stars. SANTA CLARA, Cal.,. May 7. Two University of Santa Clara - tennis stars, William G. de Koch and Charles J. Jones, probably will represent the university in intercollegiate tourna ments at the Merion Cricket club at 1 Philadelphia this summer. This will Ted Ray, the Briton who holds the be the first time Santa Clara has en American open championship, is at I tered an intercollegiate tennis meet. NORTHWEST CHAMPION WHO WILL RIDE IX DECORATION DAY RACES AT ROSE CITY SPEEDWAY. r" 4 JUL K Uf- r - if ' Bob ewmaa, who will attempt to pilot hi speed burner honors ia race meet here May 29 aad SO. BT WALTER CAMP. ' NEW TORK. May 14. (Special.) Controversy over the records made by Charles Paddock, the great Uni versity of Southern California sprin ter, make it seem that some system mechanically accurate for timing must replace the present method, which is regarded in many quarters as not scientific. Indeed, a move ment is on foot at the present time which may result in a radical change in the process of recording times made by track athletes. The very fact of the statement be ing made so broadly by timers and athletic coaches that Paddock's rec ords could not be correct shows how little confidence those who are really In the game place in the clocking of others. The fact that four picked men, all standing at the finish line and taking the time in the ordinary way, have to watch the flash, start their watches, see the man breast the tape and then stop the watch, shows how much the personal equation may figure in the result. Watches Seldom Agree. When also it is known that very seldom do the four watches agree and the time is, therefore, generally a matter of compromise or accepting the slower watches, one gets an idea of how little scientific accuracy there can be in the recording of times. Even the most expert timers differ as to their methods. One man says that it is simply impossible to get accurate timing if the timer picks up the man with his eye some little distance from the tape and then fol lows him over. Another contends that there is only one way to get it, accurately. We all know that when the timer sees the man cross the finish line bis eye informs his brain of this and his bram registers an order to stop the watch. Plenty of tests in psycholog ical laboratories show, the great va riation between men in . registering an Impression. In other words, in some men the telegraphic machinery, so-called, from brain to muscle acts quickly and in others slowly. Variation la Unknown. No one of the present timers who has had experience for the last ten years would tell, even if he knew absolutely, how great the variations have been in the times registered by the watches. And coming to the me chanical part itself the watch of course the only way really to get the correct results, even if the element of human fallibility did not come in. would be to test all tbe watches just previous to the timing, or at least on the same day and see that they were all correct by means of a mas ter watch. It does seem as if some scientific ally accurate method should ' be adopted and continued so that all times in the future may be really truth-telling. COACHES GOIXG TO SCHOOL Stanford to Have Summer Course in Intercollegiate Sports. STANFORD UNIVERSITY, Cal., May 14. Instruction in coaching in every line of intetcollegiate sport will be given at a coaches' school to be con ducted at the Stanford university summer session which opens ne month. The courses will be similar to those given at the University California last summer. Coaches of the Stanford teams will be among the instructors at the school Walter Powell, football coach, will give instruction In his work; Harry Maloney, physical instructor, will tell of track and soccer iootoau worK Ernie Brandsten will teach a class in swimming and Duffy Seay will tell of basketball work. Among the courses are "Ethics of Athletics," "Function of Interscholas- tlc Athletics," "Promotion of Com munity Athletics," "American Foot ball," "Football Officiating." "Track and Field Events," "Organization for Track Meets." "Ethics of College Baseball," "Promotion of Soccer as High School Sport." "How to Arrange Schedules and How to Make Up an Athletic Budget." Coaches from high schools and smaller colleges are expected to at tend. CYCLE BflCES 1Y 28, 30 SPECTATORS OF LOCAL EVEXT TO SEE FAST RIDING. Xot Less Than Five World Cliani pions to Get in Action on Rose City Speedway. Spectators at the coming motorcycle races , to be held at the Rose City speedway May 29 and 30. under auspices of the Daddies' club, will see local racers as well as not less than ive world champions in action. Everyone interested in motorcycle racing hereabouts is well acquainted with Bob Newman and his prowess. He is known,, and has been for some years, as one of the most dangerous of riders. He is one of the kind who takes chances. Newman is never de feated if he can avoid it. If there is a field leading him and he can see a hole big enough to get his .cycle through, he makes the effort, no matter whether he can get through as well as the machine or not. It is by taking advantage of every opening that has enabled him to win the vast majority of the events in which he has been entered. A special machine has been turned out by the Indian people for these two days' races. Newman will be one of the Indian team entered and te will ride the new motorcycle. Newman has great respect for the riding ability of Otto Walker, but he is out to beat Walker, who has es tablished world records on his Harley Davidson. Walker is the holder of the championship of the world for one mile, two, 10, 15, SO and 190 miles. The longest race here will be 25 miles and this means that Newman will have all the-chance he wants to try to lower Walker's colors. The races will be the only ones to be held in the Pacific northwest at Effective immediately, Hupmobile prices are reduced $200 on open cars, and $315 to $325 on closed cars. The Five-Passenger car and the Roadster , are now $1485; the Sedan, $2485; the Coupe, $2400; all prices f. o. b. Detroit, war tax to be added. What this reduction actually means is an increase in Hupmobile, value that is worth far more than the revision in price. The truth is that at its new price, and with its well-known economy, low repair costs, life long, and high-grade value, the Hupmobile stands forth today as the best buy in the motor car market. This revision represents the rock bottom figure at which the high quality of the Hupmp , bile can be maintained. HUPP MOTOR CAR CORPORATION, DETROIT, MICH. Manley Auto Co. Local Distributors. Eleventh and Oak at Burnside. Phone Broadway 217. N o w $ 1 IGCIE TRACK TEAM GOOD WELL-BALAXCED SQUAD TO BE AT COAST MEET. Final List of Entries Is Not Yet Submitted Osborne Shows Vp Well In Pole Vault. ORKflOX AGRICULTURAL COL- flram. Corvallis. May 14. (Special.) The Oregon Aggies will be repre sented at the Pacific coast conference tm-u meet bv a well-oaiancea lenra. Coach Mike Butler's squad will be ap posed by Washington State. Washing ton university ana ineumerii i Oreenn. The final list of entries nas noi been submitted, but it is expected to contain George Powell, uapiain utm Swan. Maurice Snook, Paul bcea, jnara Kellogg, William Leubke, Robert Damon. Alvin D. Hobart, Sewell O. Newhouse, Charles Rose, Howard Draper, Doc Osborne and Lloyd cook. Osborne has been showing up ex ceptionally well in the pole vault and now going arouna tne n-woi mark. Both Powell and &wan won first Dlaces in the last Pacific coast meet and are expected to win points for the Aggies. Swan won first in the mile and is also good for points in the half mile. Powell won first in the shot put last year and Is up to standard form. The Beavers won second place in the University of Washington relay carnival, defeating Oregon and Wash ington State. The relay teams were working against the handicap of hav ing Grant Swan on the sick list. With the return of Swan the chances of the relay team placing first seems to be exceptionally good. " On May 28 the Oregon Aggies are scheduled to hold a dual track meet with Washington State college at Corvallis. This will be the only track meet held by the varsity on the local field this year. SENATORS AFTER MITCHELL Former Vernon -Shortstop, Xow With Tanks, in Demand. WASHINGTON. D. C. May . It is not Clark Griffith's fault that Johnny Mitchell, substitute shortstop of the Yankees, is sitting on the bench, idling bis time, while tRoger Peckin patrgh is making hits and stopping the enemy irom aotng tne -same. Jriff buttonholed Miller Huggins to talk trade. Finally the proposition of a. trade was made. Griffith named his terms and Hug- gins laughed. When Hug made his counter - proposal, Griffith shriekea aloud. There it ended, for the time being. George McBride -is anxious to continue the talk and something may result from the chatter. Here is a basis for the trade. The Senators need a shortstop and if they had a shortstop more experienced than Frank O'Rourke they might prove dangerous. The Yankees need n outfielder who is "there witn tne ois". ilessxs. Rupert a.ai Huston triedall last winter to lure Sam Rice away from the Senators, but to no purpose. Nor is there much chance of getting him now. But Washington might be coaxed into letting Clyde Milan go, if the right price was paid. Clyde has been in the majors for 14 full years and is possibly good for a couple more. He hit .322 last season and would fix the Yankees pretty. Whether the Yankees will get him is a matter of conjecture. COLLEGE TO JOTX IX SPORTS PnBt Sound After Dates With Other Northwestern Schools. TACOMA, Wash.. May 14. Partici pation in several branches of intercol legiate sport, with special emphasis on football, has been decided upon by the College of Puget Sound here. In the past C. P. S. has not engaged in many contests with teams represent ing other northwest schools. Attempts are to be made to scheduln contests with Willamette university of Salem, Or.; the Multnomah Athletic club of Portland, Gonzaga university of Spokane, Pacific university of For est Grove Or., Camp Lewis and others. Five games are to be played in the Tacoma stadium and one trip will be made bv the C. P. S. football team into Oregon, according to present plans. Teams representing tne scnooi aiso ill be entered in baseball, tennis and track and field contests. UTAH FOSTERS ATHLETICS Intermountain Association of Ama teur Union Reorganized. SALT LAKE CITY. Utih., May 14. Utah's desire to advertise to the world the SDced and strength of her ath letes led to the recent reorganization here of the Intermountain Associa tion of the Amateur Athletic Union, which has charge of all amateur ath letics in the state. Greater athletic performances by Utah men and boys are to be encour aged by the association. All colleges, universities and clubs In this section are to be asked to join. As the Intermountain association also has jurisdiction in Montana and Idaho, athletes of these two states are to be encouraged in their work, so that the association meets will be, in reality, for the tri-state cham-plonshirig. TENNIS BOPBME HIGH DR. BEXXETII SIMMS COACH AT AGRICULTURAL COLLEGE. Corvallis Is Expected to Bo Well Represented in Pacific Coast Tournament May 21-22. OREGON AGRICULTURAL COL LEGE, Corvallis, May 14. (Special.) Tennis hopes are running excep tionally high, following the an nouncement that Dr. Benneth Slmms has accepted the appointment as coach and trainer. Slmms, who is at present a mem ber of the college faculty, has played considerable tennis on the coast and is not only a good player but Is said to hav all thp fine points of the game down .to such a deirree that be Is able to show others many tricks of the play. The college will be well represent ed in the Pacific coast tennis tourna ment at Eugene May 21 and 22. The annual Oregon-O. A. 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