n THE SUXDAT. OREGONIAN. PORTTiAND. JANUARY 12, 1913. X 17) l, l ho ra jam to? "The Theater m America Wi Grow as a Great Educational Factor." "M ARVELOUS, sir simply mar velous!" exclaimed Sir Her bert Beerbohm Tree. ."Tou Americans remind me of the chap who could ride the Derby all the year round and never tire." The English actor-producer had Just seated himself for breakfast at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel. "A very busy life you live here, but an Intensely interesting one," said he, "and, I dare say, that Is what counts in the long run. Tou are great because you are thorough thorough In every thing, your commercial institutions, your skyscrapers, your hotels, restau rants, theaters "The theater means so much In America," he went on after a moment's pause. "It is the great schoolhouse of the people, and It will grow in im portance from year to year." "As an institution of amusement and pleasure?" "No, rather as a great educational factor," was the answer. "I believe that the hope of the drama lies in America. First, because of the enor mous wealth you have, and, secondly, because of the enthusiasm of the chil dren and . ever-Increasing desire for knowledge." "Is that not the condition in othef countries?" "Partially so in England, but not elsewhere. The drama in France, for Instance, is patronized almost entirely by the adult, or, I may say, the middle-aged. Here, and in England, the audiences are composed of boys and girls, as well as men and women. And it is a wonderful sign, this grow ing enthusiasm on the part of the younger generation for the drama. It means so very much for education and enlightenment. "Why," lie added, "only recently I was asked to pose in several Shake spearean roles for the moving pictures. The Idea was to use the pictures In some of the English schools. The mov ing pictures will aid wonderfully In giving the school children a true In sight to the drama. In time, I believe, every schoolhouse will use moving pic tures in teaching history, geography, literature. And what could possibly be more Instructive! A picture will make a lasting impression upon the mind of a child, whereas the dry pages of a book will not." "In doing this, would you advocate the realistic or the symbolic?" "The play, so the picture," was his reply. "To explain, let me hark back to the modern manner of producing Shakespeare, and to say a few words in extenuation of those methods which have been assailed in a recent article with almost equal brilliancy and vehe mence. two different kinds of plays the realistic and the symbolic. Shakes peare's plays, we are assured, belong to VETERAN OF SCOTLAND YARD TELLS OF HIS EXPERIENCES Famous Sleuth, Who Shortly Will Ketire From Active Service After 34 Years, Relates Some of His Adventures in Hunting Down Celebrated Crooks. SCOTLAND YARD, world-famed for its detectives, is shortly to lose one of the most famous investiga tors of crime that it has ever pro duced Frank Froest. Perhaps the best testimonial to, his prowess as a detective lies In the fact that his retirement from the criminal Investigation department of the Metro politan police force is nine years over due; Even as It is, he would not be retiring now were it not for the fact that his eyesight has given him some trouble lately. Almost the whole of his official ca reer 34 years in all has been spent In the "C. I. D.," for very eaily In his career as a member of the Metropoli tan police force he showed the natural aptitude for criminal investigation which has brought him not only fame and reward in his own country, but also honor and official recognition in the United States. There is nothing of the traditional detective about Froest In manner, ap pearance, dress and speech he Is whol ly unlike his prototype in fiction and, most of all. dissimilar to that master piece of analytical deduction, Sher lock Holmes. As his surname and the shape of his head indicate, he is of Scandinavian extraction. To appreciate Frank Froest fully one must know him. Perhaps the charac teristic which strikes acquaintance and friend most Is his natural geniality, which no worry, no stress of work can smother. He is an optimist through and through, and with a great sense of humor. For his mottoes he might have taken two: "Be thorough" and "Keep smiling." It is said that no man Is indispen sable. Probably that Is true. But the retirement of this superintendent of the "C. I. D." will leave a gap which only a big man can fill. Froest ) a big man physically as well as mentariy. for what he lacks in height (he stands about five feet eight) he makes up in breadth. His close-cropped, white haired head, his short, thick neck, his deep chest, massive shoulders, burly frame and slightly bowed legs all sug gest strength of the bulldog kind, which when once it fastens on its quarry will not let go. He is a born fighter, but he is also a diplomat. He was responsible for one of the greatest reforms ever accomplished at "The Yard'- by breaking down the rule of maintaining an obdurate silence to ward the press. At one time news paper men were received with scant courtesy at "The Yard." It was Frank Froest who showed that this policy was all wrong, and his reform was more than vindicated at the time of the Crippen case. The first day of the story of the crime was published be wrove for the press an official sum mary of the details of the crime so far as they had been discovered, a proceeding which would have caused the authorities ten years ago to gasp, tils action was Justified by the accu the latter category. 'The scenery,' it Is insisted, 'not only may, but should be Imperfect.' This seems an extraordi nary doctrine, for if it be right that a play should be imperfectly mounted, it follows that it should be imper fectly written. The modern methods, we are assured, employed in the pro duction of Shakespeare do not properly illustrate the play, but are merely made for display, with the result of crush ing the author and obscuring his mean ing. In fhls assertion, I venture to think that our critic Is mistaken. I claim that not the least important mis sion of the modern theater is to give the public representations of history which shall be at once an education and a delight. To do this, the man ager should avail himself of the best archeological and artistic help his gen eration can afford him, while endeavor ing to preserve what he believes to be the spirit and the intention of the author. "It is, of course, possible for the tech nically Informed reader to imagine the wonderful and stirring scenes which form part of the play without visualiz ing them. It is, I contend, better to reserve Shakespeare for the study than to see him presented half-heartedly. "I hold that whatever may tend to destroy the illusion and the people's understanding is to be condemned. Whatever may tend to heighten the illusion and to help the audience to a better understanding of the play and the author's meaning Is to be com mended." Few actors are as competent to dis cuss the drama as Sir Herbert. As manager of his majesty's theater in London he manifests his equipment, "I have been successful." he said, "be cause I have been square with the pub lic" "Is the success of the actor-producer in England due to the fact that the English actor is a better business man than the American actor?" was asked. "No, I should not say that. Perhaps the failure of so many of your actor managers In this country Is due to the fact that the layman here Is a better business manager than the actor-manager. Another consideration enters into the case, and that is the temperament of the public. In England, once an actor is successful his place in the world of art la firmly established; here, I take it, things are somewhat different. The old actors pass out, the new ones come In, and there are, perhaps, two never-ending processions, one going forward, an other going backward." "Do you mean that the American public is not sufficiently appreciative?" was asked. "Indeed, no," he replied. "If that were so It would not be the ambition of the world's players to win America. I hope to play here soon. The only reason I have not done so for the past 18 years is because of the responsibil ity attached to my theater In London racy which characterized all the news paper stories, and his originality of method was further displayed in the same case when he utilized wireless tefegraphy for the arrest of the crim inal. Frank Froest, however, recalls with a chuckle one occasion on which he successfully avoided newspaper men primed with questions for him to an swer. That was in Chicago, when the headlines announced: "England's great sleuth from Scotland Yard arrives." But they never tracked him down, tliough he was in the "Windy City" for a week. He had made up his mind not to be caught and interviewed. The visit to. the United States which he remembers with the greatest satis faction lasted five months and brought him the thanks of the American Gov ernment for his services. This was In 1892, when he helped convict William Lord Moore for using the United States mails for fraudulent purposes. Moore's method was to write to credulous peo ple in England and France, telling them he could help them to get their shares of unclaimed millions lying in banks. Moore was tried at Jackson, Tenn. The jury disagreed twice, but the third time it found him guilty and sentenced him to nine years' penal servitude. There was a strange sequel to this case. It is best told in Froest's own words. "Moore escaped from prison," he says, "after serving a short period of his sentence, and was completely lost to the police in America. One daf a little old lawyer, who had an office in Fleet street, London, came to my room at Scotland Yard and said: 'I have been advised to come to you. A lady who Is a client of mine saw an advertise ment in one of the English newspapers stating that someone of her name was heir to a large estate in America. She answered the advertisement and re ceived this reply.' He produced a letter writtten from Jackson, in Michigan, mark you. not Tennessee. It stated that the lady was entitled to a big share in gold mines worth more than $100,000. The address made me think and, on examining the letter, I identi fied the writing as that of Moore. It was nearly two years after his escape. We at once notified the American po lice authorities of our discovery and Moore was promptly arrested and sent back to jail. I have always thought it was a. curious coincidence that the old lawyer should have happened to bring me Moore's letter, which, of course, was signed in another name." Froest's writing is very Individual. His former chief and rjedecessor In the post which he himself is soon to va cate, John Shaw, once said laughingly: "If we took a specimen of your hand writing to a chemist he would make It up as a prescription for a cure for a bad cold or as a remedy for corns." Another noted criminal who was re sponsible for Froest paying a visit to the Suites was Bunco-Steerer Tom O'Brien, who was arrested and brought to trial in 1891 In Albany. He received a sentence of 10 years, but succeeded in escaping from jail and made his way to France. A reward of $5000 was offered for him, and this sum tempted one of his pals illliiB n and the absolute necessity for my con- i stant attendance there. I with whom he had fallen out over a blackmailing deal. O'Brien shot his friend and was arrested by the French police, tried and sentenced for a life term to one of the penal settlements, where he ultimately died. O'Brien es caped a capital sentence because his victim was himself a criminal. The Townsend Burden jewel robbery, in 1896, was another case in unraveling which Froest played a prominent part The jewels, worth $100,000, were stolen from the wealthy American and his wife by two EngliBh servants, an en deavor being made by the culprits to cloak their dishonesty by the pretense that there had been a burglary. The deception was discovered in time for nearly the whole of the jewelry to be recovered. Another sensational case In which ADVENTURES watching the battle as though it were a show got up for their benefit. General In the Ranks Several of these onlookers were killed and wounded, but it made no difference, the police being Unable to keep the populace from invading even the most dangerous places. I had been going In and out of Juarez since the start of the battle, keeping on the rebel side and getting some Interesting snapshots. To my surprise, of all Madero's newly appoint ed Generals. Garibaldi and Villa were the only ones to be seen at or near the firing line, and even they were not In command, but were fighting like pri vates, each with his Winchester 30-30. Orozco and the rest were not in evi dence. The Foreign Legion had taken upon Itself the storming of the federal for tifications on the main street, and throughout the battle were closer to the enemy than any other revolution ary force. They had selected as the best point of vantage a fine two-story residence standing alone on a lawn, whose south and west exposures com manded two near-by buildings manned by Navarro's men. Wandering around town in search of subject matter for my camera, my ears were struck by an Indescribable medley of sounds that seemed to come from the headquarters of the Foreign Legion. Between the crash of volley tiring, the boom of cannon and the staccato bark of the machine guns, I seemed to distinguish melodious strains of music Climbing cautiously over the back fence, I edged through a basement en trance and, striding up to the library, came upon as stirring a scene as it has been my lot to behold. Seated at a pianola a begrimed fil ibuster was pouring forth Mendelssohn's Wedding March." On a couch in the opposite corner a twitching figure dyed with his life blood its luxurious bro caded coverings. Seated on the floor "American actors," he continued, . "are becoming better understood! Froest showed his natural skill as a detective to a marked degree was that of Nancy Guildford, an American wo man doctor, who, after a warrant had been Issued for her arrest, successively eluded the American, Canadian and Liverpool police. Froest took up the clew from Paddlngton Station, the Great Western Railway terminus, where It was believed she had arrived from Bristol, the police of that place being positive that a woman answer ing her description had bought a ticket for London. Froest had a cabled description of the woman, who was between 30 and 40 years old, and also knew that she had with her a trunk with a broken strap. He went to Paddington, and, after 86 hours of close Questioning of OF WAR CORRESPONDENT (CONTINUED FROM PAGK FOUR.) another man was patiently trying to tie a handkerchief about his wounded wrist, while ranged along loopholes pierced through the walls a dozen sol diers of fortune kept up the battle with an unseen enemy. Each time the pianola would accentuate the dominant motive of the music all the men would hum an accompaniment, keeping time unconsciously with the reports of their rifles. Considering the number of shots fired, the casualties were not numer ous. However, there were about 200 wounded lying In the streets and on the roofs. I tried to take some of the wounded to El Paso, where the local physicians and hospitals had volunteered to at-J tend them, but the American soldiers on the northern end of the interna tional bridge refused to allow them to be brought into American territory un less they conformed to prescriptions of the immigration laws. A tortuous tangle of red tape, ne cessitating an Interchange of tele grams between the Ambassadors and Presidents of the United States and Mexico, caused the death, from lack of surgical attention, of at least 100 wounded soldiers at the very gates of the United States. At last everything was arranged and the immigration, customs and quaran tine Officials were instructed to allow the wounded to enter El Paso. We carried In about 20 that were near; but for the Injured from more distant parts of the town it was necessary to use ambulances. The firing did not let up for a mo ment The rebels tried to let the Fed erals know TOf the opportunity for car ing for their wounded, but no attention was paid to them, as white flags had been treacherously used several times by both sides, and at that stage of the battle both rebels and Federals would preferably fire on the bearer of a truce flag than on a declared and uni formed enemy. The representatives of both parties held a conference in El Paso. Human! tarianisra instincts overcame political abroad. For a time your stars who went to England did not meet with the railway officials, cabmen and others at the station, he found a cabman who had taken her and her trunk from the station. From this point Froest worked night and day for a week before run ning his quarry to earth. His diffi culties were- increased by the fact that he soon discovered that the woman's method was to take a cab and direct the driver to put her down at a certain house. She would linger on the side walk until the cabman had driven off and then get a boy to fetch another cab, when the process would be re peated. As a variation she would have her luggage taken into the house or hotel, pay for a room, and after a few hours drive off. Froest persevered, cabman by cabman, and finally traced her to lodgings In Camden Town. He described the finish of his hunt partisanship for the moment, and it was decided to declare an hour's truce that the wounded of both sides be carried to 7ZI Paso. No one volunteered to take the mes sage to the contending foemen. We Americans who were present expressed our opinions as to the necessity of haste. "Why do you not convey the message yourselves instead of volunteering use less advice?" was thrown back at us. As I was the only American present whose knowledge of Spanish was suf ficient to fill the order I was elected to take the letters to Navarro and his opponents. Five minutes later I crossed the in ternational bridge into Juarez, a red Z-ZZ flag in my hand, another pinned across my back, and stili ir.cicr my chest. I felt I was a fool, but it was too late to turn back. As I neared the rebel lines the Fed erals fired at me. As I would approach the Federal positions the rebels would shoot at me. I grew hoarse shouting my message to the men on every roof, having to repeat myself nearly every time, as the bursting shells and crash ing rifle fire would drown my voice. In the thickest of the fight I met Jimmy Hare, staff photographer of Collier's Weekly. I told him my er rand, and he volunteered to accompany me. "But you will have to ' leave your camera behind." I admonished. He agreed, after first taking a picture of me bending over a wounded man in the middle of the street to brush away the myriad flies that were tormenting bim. At last we found Navarro and gave him the letter. He agreed to cease fir ing for an hour; and did so. By nightfall all the wounded had been taken over to El Paso, and the American surgeons had plenty of op portunity to study the relative effects of steel-jacketed and of soft-nosed bul lets on the human system. I was later given a diploma by Ma dero, in which he thanked me in the name of the Mexican people. success to which they were entitled. That was due to the fact that English- j men were not as familiar with Ameri can manners and customs as were Americans of English manners and customs. However, your really great artists have never failed of just appre ciation. The name of Jefferson is a household word In England. "I repeat, the hope of the drama lies In England and America, especially America. There will always be a cer tain form of musical show which will afford diversion rather than instruc tion, but the drama will have a lasting place here; the realistic rather than the symbolic will endure." In a recent book written by Sir Her bert on Henry VIII. the actor-producer draws a striking comparison between the realistic and the symbolic. The symbolic he refers to as footnotes with which those who do not know how to appreciate the joys of life and their true presentation on the stage are filled. Here, for instance, is a "foot note" by Sir Herbert: "Personally, I have been a sentimen tal adherent of symbolism- since my first Noah's Ark. Ever since I first beheld the generous curves of Mrs. Noah and first tasted the Insidious car mine of her lips, have I regarded the wife of Noah as symbolical of the su preme type of womanhood. I have learned that the most exclusive symbol ists, when painting a meadow, regard purple as symbolical of bright green, but we live In a realistic age and have not yet overtaken the art nouveau of the pale future. It is difficult to deal seriously with so much earnestness. I am forced Into symbolic parable. Arte mus Ward, when delivering a lecture on his great moral panorama, pointed with his hand to a blur on the horizon and said: 'Ladies and gentlemen, that is a horse the artist who painted thai picture called on me "yesterday with tears In his eyes and said he would dis guise that fact from me no longer!' He, too, was a symbolist. "Now there are plays In which sym bolism is appropriate those of Maeter linck, for instance. But if, as has been said. Maeterlinck resembles Shakes Deare. Shakespeare does not resemble Maeterlinck. Let us remember that Shakespeare was a humorist, not a symbolist." The actor's stay in this country was brief, lasting only eight days. Will Mr. Wilson's Door Stay Open? (CONTINCED FROM PAGE FOUR.) soon as he settled in Princeton building lots there took a sudden upward spurt Dealers In every article, under the sun will send Dr. Wilson generous samples of their wares with the hope of receiving some word of praise which can be advertised as a testimonial. A mere acknowledgment from the White House secretary will suffice as a basis for a poster. "President Wilson uses Snooks' Soap." Mr. JIcKlnlcy, while in Congress once sent down from his hotel room a note to the cigar stand asking for some perfectos of a certain brand The shrewd dealer kept the note until McKlnley was elected, and then had facsimiles electrotyped and pasted on each box of these cigars. A piano manu facturer once wrote to Mr. Cleveland that 2000 of his admiring workmen In a quiet, matter-of-fact way when telling the story. "The last cabman," he said, "when I questioned him, was sure he had taken the woman I was searching for, but added: 'I don't know the number of the house nor the street it's in, but I think I can drive you there.' So I popped into his cab and told him to take me to the house. When I got there I rang the bell and asked the landlady if she had any one answering the description which I gave. 'Well, sir,' she replied, 'there is one lady here, an American lady, but she never sees anybody and keeps her door locked all the time.' So I Bald, 'I am a police officer and I must see her. Can't you go upstairs, knock on the door, and when she answers tell her that you have a letter for her?" The landlady did as I asked her and I followed her up. As , soon as Nancy Guilford opened the door of the apartment I pushed my way into the room. She was furious, and indignantly swore by all that was holy that she was neith er Nancy Guildford nor had ever heard of her; that she would complain to the Ambassador about my conduct and gen erally make things unpleasant for me. "The moment I set eyes on her I knew there was no doubt she was the woman. I showed her the cabled description, told her how I traced her, and pointed out to her .that one of the straps to her trunk was broken. While Bhe was get ting ready to accompany me I noticed when she thought I was not looking in her direction that she bent down and slipped something under the hearth rug. When I turned it up I found under neath a linen collar marked with her name. " 'In the face of this, madam, you can no longer deny that you are Nancy Guildford,' I said. "'That's the mistake of the laundry; they sent me somebody else's collar,' she replied, but she knew well enough that it was an oversight on her part, because she had carefully cut out the name from all her other garments. "She was ultimately sentenced to, I think, ten years." Altogether Froest has either directly or indirectly been concerned in the ar rest of well over 100 American crim inals. He was asked which he remem bered with the greatest satisfaction. "My arrest of Cowboy Kuhn at Queenstown is the one I think which gives me the greatest satisfaction," was his reply. "Kuhn came from Primrose City, Wis. He had murdered five or six of his comrades and had dropped their bodies into a creek. The crime was brought to light by a boy who, while fishing, brought up on the book at the end of his line some of the brains from one of Kuhn's victims' heads. "I went on board at Queenstown and arrested him before he knew he was found. I always thought he was mad. He was a big man, powerfully built and very sullen. He never said a word from the time I arrested him to the time he was sent off. As we were in the train on our way to London I was read ing a newspaper, while he was sitting opposite with his hands manacled to gether. Suddenly I noticed him quietly reaching down for the foot-warmer. I wished to present a piano to the first lady of the land. The President ac cepted the 'of far, but when he learned that the 2000 workmen with , a band marched with the piano to the station. , and that at every point en route the piano was featured as "destined to ba played on by the fair fingers of the first lady of the land," the Cleveland became disgusted and sent the piano back. Scores of such experiences led to the rule, now strictly enforced, that the White House steward shall buy nothing from a dealer who will not guarantee that the presidential patron age shall not be used for advertising purposes. Mr. Roosevelt rebuked all concerns which used his portrait In ad vertisement.''. He went so far as to re quest the withdrawal of a booklet by the Spokane Chamber of Commerce using his portrait on the title page. An order for 50.000 of the pamphlets had to be canceled, and steps taken to call those which had already gone out. - This magic of the Presidential name is seen wherever It is written or print ed. One of Mr. McKinley's autographs on a piece of paper otherwise blank sold at auction for $6.25 a few weeks after his death. In another genera tion it will doubtless be worth ten times as much. Twenty-two volumes of the works of Theodore Roosevelt, each volume bearing the Presidential auto graph, sold for $3200 in Philadelphia in 1U0I. And as soon' as Theodore, Jr., entered the plant of the manufacturers who employed him tiiolr business is said to have realized a boom on the strength of the magic of even his name. Wall Street Trade, on Ilia Health. Wall street will trade on President Wilson's pulse and temperature. When they go up the stock market will go down. The daily procession of figures on the tapes of the tickers will be altered also by what he says and writes on industrial topics. Men will be em ployed to guard the manuscripts and proofs , of his messages and speeches against possible leaks which might al- ' low some especially Informed stock jobber to enrich himself at the expense of those who have not had an equal " chance of informing themselves. When Mr. Roosevelt made his Western tour in the Fall of 1907 he took special precautions against, the furnishing of advance press copies of his speeches to Wall-street publications and the ticker service. His Provincetown speech of ' the previous month had leaked in some way and advance copies had gotten into the hands of brokers, who prof ited by It. President Roosevelt was peculiarly sensitive to exploitation and criticism. Once lie went so far as to order the' Weather Bureau to suspend its iore casts supplied - to a paper which ac cused one of his children of abusing , a turkey sent to the White House. President Taft has never appeared to ' be ruffled by such incidents. When he entered the White House he knew just what was coming to him and has since lost no sleep over impositions which would harass any one of less tolerance. His successor will save himself a vast deal of unhappiness If he emu lates this example and closes his eyes and ears to that element which per petually plagues public men with its petty schemes and scoldings. (Copyright, 1912, by John Elfreth Wat kins.) knew what he was about, but there was no time for me to throw myself upon him, so I brought my foot up under his chin and that made him sit up straight again. He was extradited to the States, where he got a life sentence." "What is the narrowest shave you have ever had for your life?" was the question which brought this prompt reply, uttered with a good-natured laugh: "Oh! It would take a Yankee to an swer that question. Probably one that I never knew anything about" - On a former occasion, however, he had expressed the Interesting opinion that he would always prefer a man who was attacking him to be armed with a pistol rather than a knife. His reason for this was, "because the man with the pistol may miss you, but the man with the knife never does." "What do you think of Sherlock Holmes' methods?" was another ques tion which the World correspondent put " to him. The reply was brief, but to the point: "I think they make intensely in teresting novels." There are some officers at "the yard" who would reply far less gen erously to this question if It were put to them. In fact, it annoys some of the leading lights of tho "C. I. D." very much when the name of Sherlock Holmes is mentioned. But Frankie, as he is usually known at "the yard," merely laughs. It will be remembered that Sherlock Holmes found great inspiration in his pipe; that he resorted to drugs, and -that he could not sleep when perplexed by a great problem. So much for tbe mcthods of the ideal detective, as Sher lock Holmes has come to be considered. Now listen to what the real detective, Frank Froest says on this subject: "No, I never lost any sleep over a case. I didn't let it get on my nerves to that extent But I used to make it a rule never to take any intoxicating liquor or to smoke at all while I had a big Job on." Perhaps the most Interesting of a.l his pronouncements on detective work is ills answer to the question: "What do you consider are the qualifications most needed to make a successful de tective?" This was the reply: "Honesty (that comes first, of course, even to tne criminal). "Tact "Common sense." No one who has met Froest would deny that he has developed these three qualifications himself admirably. It has been a clever combination of the three which has made him so popular among all the newspaper men whose duties have taken them to Scotland Yard for Inquiries. At the time of the Crippen case he interviewed 30 newspaper men twice a day regularly without "turning a " hair," and one might add mischievously, "without winking an eyelid." Froest never made the mistake of telling everything he knew. What he did do was to tell the newspaper men every thing he thought it was right for them to know and no more. And he did it so cleverly every man went away con gratulating himself that toe at least knew everything.