SUNDAY OREGOXIAX. PORTLAND. OCTOBER 13. 1913.
ROSE SAYS BECKER
THREE PERSONS WHO jpGUEED YESTERDAY IN" POLICE LTETTTEN-
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Gambler Testifies He Hired
Gunmen, Afterward Pay
ing Them $1000.
DEFENDANT IS STOICAL
Ma a Who Has Turned State's Evi
dence Says Crime Was Delib
erately Planned at Police
Official's Request. -
I.
(Continued From First Pag-e.)
.- reded for them with the District At-
1. torney. Rose said he had no motive
of his own for killing' Rosenthal, but
I had acted solely at Becker's direction.
Time and again Mclntyre quoted el
leged conversations between Rose and
men of the underworld, apparently In
an attempt to prove that Rose himself
desired the gambler's death.
"No such conversation ever occurred.1
' was his reply to these questions.
"But you were Becker's' graft eol-
-. lector, so you say.
"I wis."
Rose had testified that Becker had
entered into a gambling: partnership
with Rosenthal. Rose took charge of
the police lieutenant's Interest In the
I enterprise. Becker and Rosenthal fell
out, and Becker made threats that he
S j would raid the place, finally doing so.
! ; "lter," Rose testified. "Rosenthal
; , complained to Becker that policemen
! ' were still stationed in front of his
J place, and aaid he was sore because
his wife's nephew was taken In the
raid."
Rose said his nest meeting with
Becker was at his own house.
"He told me," Rose said, "that Rosen
thal had been calling him up every day
. asking a meeting to find out what be
. was going to do about the indictments
against the men arrested in Rosen
trial's place. Be put Rosenthal off.
'. Soon afterward, Becker said, Rosenthal
j . had begun to talk around street cor
i 1 ners that he was in partnership with
: Becker and was going to show him up.
Becker a few days later told me of
! having seen Commissioner Waldo, and
that the Commissioner had heard of
. Rosenthal's charges and had not be'
! lieved them.
" "Becker said to me: That fellow
Rosenthal is getting dangerous. I said
Nobody will believe Rosenthal.'
" 'Well.' be answered, 'so long as
Commissioner Waldo doesn't believe
him, I guess there's nothing to worry
about' "
"Beating Vp" Not Enough.
. "Did you and Becker discuss news
paper interviews that Rosenthal had
given! tne witness was asaea. .The only thing to do now is to lay low
a eai rjctnci iuiu uio uiai j, Biiuumn - till it DIOWS OV81".
worry aoout tnat; tnat n6 naa jacK I Rose ald he nfa at Harry Pollock's
""""u mo p.po. i.u home with Sam Schepps. Rose tele
, mat Kosemnai couion t get anytning phoned Becker, and was told not to
i ing paper had gotten an affidavit from
I Rosenthal and was going to print it.
" 'Guess Rosenthal means to do what
; he said he would to squeal and break
me.' Becker said.
' I'll get a couple of gang men I
.... .'i.v'",:. -
Left, "Bald Jack" Rose, Who Accuses
Becker In HU Testimony; Rlsht,
Above, Lieutenant Beckeri Below,
Mrs. Rosenthal, Widow of Murdered
Gambler.
1 got it from a newspaper man.' he
said.
'Are you coming down town?" I
asked him.
I'll be right down,' he replied. That
was about 2:30 o'clock." Rose said.
Becker came down "about dawn," and
met Rob on the sidewalk with
"Bridgie" Weber, near "Bridgle's"
gambling place. ,
'I'm glad it's done, Becker said,
"Becker said he was late in coming
down," Rose added, "because he had
stopped at the police station to see
Rosenthal's body.
'If it wasn t for District Attorney
Whitman being there, I'd have reached
around and out his tongue out,' Becker
said to me, slowly and deliberately.
Don t worry. Jack,' Becker told mo.
worry, but to stay where he was.
Defendant Much Affected,
Before Rose was' half through with
his story, drops of perspiration were
standing on the brow of the accused
police defendant. He did not once take
told Becker, "and go around and tell his eyes off the witness.
Rosenthal that if he does not stop his I Mrs. Becker, who sat near tier hus
attacks on you something will happen I band, looked steadily at the floor.
to him.' Attorney Mclntyre, Becker's counsel
""Oh, hell." Becker said, I don't want volleyed objection after objection until
tne reiiow Deaten up. ir 1 did i n beatine was reprimanaea oy justice uerr.
him up myself or have him beaten up Twice he demanded that court be ad
for resisting arrest. But a beating up Mourned-on the ground that it was I
won't do for him. He must be put legal holiday, and each time the court
- where neither you nor I nor anybody
else will ever have to worry about him
grain.
"'What do you want done. with Ro
' senthal?' I asked Becker during the
conversation,' " the witness testified.
" 1 want him murdered, shot, croaked,
dynamited or anything,' Becker replied.
; 'I want him put where we will never
have to worry about him again.' 1
out his argument short.
Bridgie Webber gave me f 1000 aft
er the shooting at Fifteenth street and
Eighth avenue, declared Rose, contlnu
ing his testimony. "I gave it to 'Letts
Louie .
When was this done?" asked Mr.
Moss.
"On the Tuesday afternoon after the
shooting. The shooting was early
The witness here told of Becker's al- Tuesday morninsr.1
, leged instructions to him to get out "What did you say to "Lefty Louie'
on nan nig iejig, me gang when you gave him the moneyr
i leader then in the Tombs, and have -j told him, there'a 1000 for you,
; Zelig's men put Rosenthal out of the Louie. You and the rest of the boys lie
waJ- low for a few days. Becker says abo-r
Cunmea Agree to Flan. all things you must not talk and that
Rose said he went to the home of the everything will be all right.
four gunmen, "Gyp the Blood" and bis I The witness was then turned over to
pals, and explained tie Rosenthal- the defense.
Becker situation. He told them, he "You will nave only today to cross
examine Jack Rose," Justice Goff noti
fied Becker's counsel. "You will fin
ish his cross-examination if I have to
said, that Becker would "frame them
up," if they did not "croak Rosenthal."
They agreed to do it that night.
Rose said they had delayed "doing sit here till midnight.'
;L: . ..k '. "Are You a Murderer Asked.
nkn to kill the rambler at the Garden "Rose, are you a murderer?" was Me
Restaurant. It failed, he said, because Intyrejs first question.
were present and guarding Rosenthal. "Ild 7" Procure the murder of Span
1311 uuutB:
"Becker got hot at this," Rose added
"He kept asking, 'Why all this stall
ing? Why don t they get himr
"One day he said: "Now this is go
ing on too long. Either you are stalling
tnem or tnese lenows are stalling.'
"I told Becker that a detective scared
the boys off at tne Garden Restaurant.'
Rose continued. "'Detective.' he said
"wake up and shoot Rosenthal in front
of a policeniam Get through with it;
Ket it over.' "
The witness then passed quickly to Becker at Pollock's home?'
! the events Immediately preceding the "He was.
: murder. He told of going to "Bridgie
i Webber's gambling place and thence to
; the Lafayette Baths, where he met
; Jack Sullivan.
Decker Informed by Telephone.
"I received a telephone message from
Becker." Rose testified. "He asked me
If I had heard of subpenas Issued by
the attorney for "Dollar John' and if I
had fixed It so that 'Dollar John would
corroborate Rosenthal before the grand
jury. I told him it hadn't been fixed.
"I did not.
"Were you guilty of that murder?"
"No," shouted the witness.
"Did you kill Kid Twist?'
"No.
"Did you ever see him?"
"No: I've heard of him.
"Did you procure his murder?'
"No.'
"Was Sam Schepps with you when
you signed the affidavit sent you by
You signed that parer under oath,
did you
"Yes.
"And thereby committed perjury?"
"Yes. I did." admitted Rose coolly.
"Whv did. voa do this?"
"I did ft for Becker. I would have
done anything for him that night.'
What is your name?
'For 20 years, the witness said, Tte
been known as Jack Kose.
Did you know James M. Sullivan In
"Becker said: 1 told you what this Connecticut?" pursued Mr. iicintyre,
thins- would mm n if vnu didn't E-et I ref errlnc to Rose S attorney.
rid of this fellow. Why don't you do "Yes; he was my press agent when
It tonlahtr I said I'd do mv best. T nued to aet un prlsefights In Kew
I remained at the baths until that Haven. W aterbury, Hartnora ana otner
night and bad dinner with Sam I rifle.'
Schepps, Vallon and Plitt. They came "And when you were apprehended
In a machine." for murder, he became your lawyer.
Flltt has been described as Becker s I didn't he?"
reus agent. Rose testified that Val- -i W.B never aonrehended ." Rose re-
' Ion. Schepps and himself went to Four- pne(j emphatically. ' i gave myself up
ulH new ,i 0c.-u,iu ,cnw I at ponce neaaquarxers.
got an automobile. Then they went to w.re you held for murder in this
ingw r I ail iv a iiuunr. lease'"
. neu 1 lonn wucie lu. lODl V L 1
the crowd was, Kose continued. He I T, . i am tn icw York from
said he had received a message to come p j d whon he waa ,H year8 old. He
down to 'Bridgie' Webber's place. We t. w . ,dd.d.
went there and saw. 'Bridgie, "Gyp the
Blood, 'Lefty Louie and " bltey Lewis
on the sidewalk. We all went up into
'Bridgie s place and had drinks.
'Brlda-le said: "Herman Rosenthal is
m the Metropole." Everybody got up
then and went out.'
"Who went out?"
Frank and 'Bridgie.' I stayed behind ttTS? "a ..
A wnlteri- when word jLm In t h . r I l,K "
Rosenthal had been shot."
Rose said he went to the Lafayette
batlis and telephoned to Becker.
" 'Did you hear the news?" I asked
him. "Yes." Becker said. 'I congratu
late you.'"
'"How did you get the news so soon?1
I aoked Becker.
Is now 87. he added.
Mr. Mclntyre sought further to un
fold Rose's history.
The witness said that about 20 years
ago he ran two gambling houses in
New York and that three or four
years ago he had an interest In a
gambling house called the Hesperla.
Was Rosentnai lnieresiea in mo
"Was that vour first business con
nection with Rosenthal?"
Rom -employed ly Rosenthal.
.""No. 1 was employed by Rosenthal
in his gambling house in East Broad
way II years ago."
Rose added that he had also been
engaged In theatrical business and had
variously been a gambling house pro
prietor, bookmaker and play producer.
"Did you not swear in a lawsuit
against Rosenthal in 1907," demanded
Mr. Molntyre, reading from a printed
record, "before a Supreme Court jus
tice that you were not interested In
gambling houses?"
"I did."
"Did you tell the truth, then Y"
"Yes."
'I made up my mind," Rose volun
teered, "to quit gambling for the sake
of my family, and lead a respectable
lire.
"How did you -terminate your inter
est in Rosenthal's gambling house?"
pursued Mr. Mclntyre.
"It terminated when Becker raided
the place."
Relations With 'Gambler Strained.
"And you and Rosenthal fell out
then?"
1 "Yes, our relations were strained
after that."
"Weren't you known as stool pigeon
ror the ponce r-
"No, I was known only as a col
lector."
"When Rosenthal told the District
. Attorney about alleged relations with
I Becker, did you learn that Rosenthal
' had given your name to the District
Attorneyr
"Becker told me so."
- "And you felt that Rosenthal had
squealed on you, didn't you?"
"I felt so, yes; I felt that Becker's
interest and salne were the same."
"Did you tell a newspaper reporter
that you resented Rosenthal s squeal
ing on you?"
"I did not"
"Didn't you say that the squealer
should be put out of the way?"
"No."
"Or anything resembling that?"
"Yes; I told that to Becker."
A moment later Rose declared he
had told Becker no such thing.
"Dollar John" Not Friendly.
"When did you tell Webber that
Rosenthal ought to be put out of the
way?" asked Attorney Mclntyre of
Rose.
"At a meeting between Webber, Val
Ion, Becker and myself later.'"
"Did you tell 'Dollar John' that some
thing should be done to Herman Rosen
thai?"
"No, "Dollar John' and I weren't
friendly."
"Did you say that Rosenthal had put
you out of business and that be ought
to be done up?"
"I did not."
"Did you see Rosenthal in Luchow's
restaurant on July 14 and offer him
money to leave the cityr'
"I did not"
"Didn't you tell him that if he didn't
make himself scarce you would have
him done up?"
"I did not"
"Did Rosenthal say that you were
engaged in the white slave traffic in
this city?"
"No, no, no," rejoined Rose.
"Defense Seeks to Show Motive.
As this line of examination continued.
it became evident that Becker's at
torney was endeavoring to show to the
jury that Rose had a desire on his own
part to see ttosentoai put out oi tne
way.
"Did you say to Becker that you had
a great fear of Rosenthal because he
was a man who worked in tne darar
I might have said that he worked in
the dark, but I didn't say I was in fear
of him.'
"You were afraid of him?
"No, I was not."
Becker's attorney inquired about the
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meeting between Schepps, Vallon, Plitt
and the witness at the home of Dora
Gilbert, Rosenthal's former wife, on
the Sunday before the murder.
"Did you say at that time that
Rosenthal was going to be killed?"
"At no time did I ever say that"
"But you knew all the time that
there was to be a frame-up to kill
himr
"Yes."
Warning- Telephoned to 'Wife.
"And did you ever during all this
time rive warning to Rosenthal?"
"I telephoned to Mrs. Rosenthal and
told her that her husband's life was In
danger."
"At that time, when you were be
tween two fires, Becker and the gang
sters, why is it that you did not res
cue- yourself by telling somebody?'
"In the world that I round, no one
would pay any attention to me," re
plied Rose. "I had a part In the mur
der, but I tried to keep them from do
ins: it."
"When did you instigate tms mur
der?"
"It bee-an some time in June."
"When did you first see the men who
did the shooting?"
"The latter nart of June."
"Did you ask them to shoot -to death
Herman 'Rosenthal?"
"I asked them to murder him, to
croak him."
'Did you mean for them to do as you
asked?"
"i dia.r
Price of Crime Hot Fixed.
"Were you on intimate terms with
these thugs?"
"Yen,"
"Did you ask them that night to kill
Rosenthair
"I did."
"Did you pay them any money?'
"nii urm fix a nrice for the crime?"
"No. none except that they should
tint ho framed-up. like Zellg wae.'
Von have been promisea immuniu
to ome here and testily, naveu v
'Yes; I signea a iupuiuvu
effect." . ,
Tou value your niei- repeaiea uie
attorney.
'Ts, t n o.
'And- you are testifying now to save
your own lifer
"Tou are willing to swear Becker
into the electric chair to save your own
life, aren't you?"
I am trying to save my
course: ir 1 naa not
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uio.j - tn
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Letter to Sckeppa Produced.
"Is the object of your 1 testimony
given here to escape punishment for
your own patt in the crime?"
'I have two objects," Rose said slow,
ly. "First I want to establish the
truth. Second I want to get consider
ation from the District Attorney." -
Mr. Mclntyre then switched his at
tack back to the murder plot. H"o
called for the production by the Dis
trict Attorney of a letter written by
Rose to Schepps in Arkansas. Mr.
Whitman handed over such a letter,
which Mr. Mclntyre perused eagerly
with bis associates. The letter was
shown to Rose, who acknowledged
writing it, and it was placed in evi
dence. "Dear Sam," the letter read, "I don't
know what you have heard or read, but
it had gotten down to the stage where
the electric chair stared us all in the
face. The first man who tried to get
from under was Becker. There were
many people who saw everything that
night and the next day the District
Attorney knew what part everybody
played in the thing and nobody could
have gotten away. I was deserted like
a dog by Becker. When I saw what
the situation was I opened up negotia
tions with the District Attorney, who
offered me a sort of cover that I can
not go into details about in writing.
I insisted that the same protection
given me be extended to Vallon, Bridgie
Webber and you and to this he finally
agreed. We are all pleased with the
arrangement. Our only worry has been
to get you to come in to get the same
friendliness we got before it is too
late.
Third Degree Guarded Against.
"My advice is to let me send a re pre
sentatlve of the District Attorney to
bring you back here. That will pre
vent the police from getting you and
putting you through the third degree.
Don't say a word to anyone.
You know, gam, you have been too
loyal a friend of mine for me to ask
you to do this If I was not positive
that you did not have a chance other
wise. On receipt ot this letter wire me
at Louie's house."
'"How long before Schepps was ar-
rested in Hot Springs, Ark, was this
letter sent?" asked Mr. Mclntyre.
"Within a week."
"Now. you stated in the letter yon
(Concluded on Pag. 4.)
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