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About The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) 1881-current | View Entire Issue (Aug. 18, 1912)
, 12 THE SUNDAY OREGOXIAN. PORTLAND, AUGUST 18, 1912. DEALERS ARE UNIT fOR HILL LINES : Franchise Wanted for Compel J itive Company, Settlement of Rates Secondary. DELAY ANGERS MERCHANTS 5 All Agree That Right to Common Use or East First Street Is Key to Railroad Situation-Other Roads Wanted, Too. A delegation of representatives of 3 five large shipping firms on the East alee, including ine j. i. wc iiucc Company. Scott-Munsell implement omnanv. Tt- M. Wade & Company, . liver Chilled Plow Company and A. H. Averill Machinery Company, called on Mayor Rushlight Thursday and tried to convince him that it would be bet el ter lor the snipping iniercsis mm franchise be granted the Hill lines on 5 East First street now and the ques 3 tlon of switching charges could be set- tied afterward. Edward Newbegin 2 r-t1 isnnkesman. but the other rep resentatives. including W. E. Burdett. 5 A. H. Averill. O. M. Scott and Joseph 4 Desmond, expressed their opinion m favor of the East First street fran 3 chise. 5 a number of interviews were ob- J tained yesterday bearing on the East 2 rirst-street franchise among the shlp- 4 pers, business men and residents on J the East Side. Several did not care 5 to be quoted. Following are expres- J slons from a considerable number: 1 Edward Xewbegln. manager of R- M. 3 Trade & Co.: "Without exception, as far as I can ascertain, the shippers want the city to grant the Hill lines a franchise on East First street. I have talked with most of them and this is their sentiment. The Mayor contends that the railroads should settle tne witching charges before the franchise Is granted on Ea-st First street. Unless the Hill lines do get a franchise on East First they will always be at the mercy of their opponents, t'nder the present conditions there are constant delays in fretting cars for shipments. We think that the Mayor is wrong and that the franchise on East First street should be granted before the question of switching charges Is settled. These may be settled afterwards. This Is the judgment of the shippers with whom I have talked. The Mayor called our at tention to the fact that the franchise asked by the Hill lines only extends to Ea3t Main street. I think, as do the other shippers, that the franchise, or common-user provision, should extend to East Market street. Otherwise sev eral large shipping firms will not reap advantage. "Invasion by the Hill lines of this dis- i trict is one of the greatest progressive 5 movements of the times for the future 4 of Portland. We don't care especially y for the Hill lines and suppose that they would do the same as the Harrlmans i are doing if conditions were reversed, t bur we want both lines In here." 3 DHajr la Asaazlns;. 1 r. H. Strowbridge, of Strowbrldge J Hardware Company, said: "It is sim- 4 ply amazing that there should, be any delay in granting the Hill lines a fran J chlse on East First and such other streets as they may need. The coming J of the Hills in the first place meant much to Portland. It was a general business uplift along the line, and now when 4 the Hill lines propose to spend millions 4 In Portland ' at a time and a place j needed they are held up, delayed and 2 badgered by the City Council and J Mayor. They need the franchise on 4 East First street. That Is- the key to f the situation. At the present time 2 business men are under a great handi- 3 cap on the East Side. If we ship by J the Hill lines now, what Is the result? 1 Delays for weeks. Give the Hill lines J a franchise on East First street on the 2 same basis as the Harrimans have, and then the shippers will not be delayed. 5 The Harrlmans discriminate now and will continue to discriminate every 5 time we ship on the Hill lines. i "There is probably not another city J in the country where such a situation J could occur. It would not stand a min- ute in Seattle. Councilman Schmeer 3 says that the Hill lines can have any thing they want but East First street. r East First street Is the key to the i whole situation. That is the street where there should be common-user .provisions, where both companies tCould have equal advantages. Port- land and the East Side need the Hill - lines. They will spend a lot of money, a- Every business man, every citizen who has the interest of Portland at heart, V. should make his wishes known to the dnMayor and Council in no uncertain way. I -am more interested in this matter ei.lhan any other public question at this time. The Harrlmans do not own East FIrst street. It belongs to the people and not the railway company. Give , the Hills a. franchise on East First street: the switching charges are sec- ondary." IZ. -a. H. Averill, of Averill Machinery Company: "I certainly favor granting the Hill lines a franchise on East First street. It will give us better service over there." j Common-l'ser Provision Necessary. D. I. Cooper, of Cooper & Co.: "I favor granting the Hill lines a fran t chise on East First street. We had our j house at Kenton where we had one line, and moved here to get better transportation service. The common-! f user provision Is necessary. I have not j' been here long enough to experience J what other shippers have experienced, but they tell me that they have been J- subjected to great delays. P. Freeman. 1 of P. Freeman & Son. with space in ' the same warehouse, told me he had experienced much delay, and author- ized me to speak for him In favor of .' eranting the Hill lines a franchise on ".' East First street. Two lines on equal ' grounds will serve the district better than one." George T. Collins, of H." & Glle Wholesale Grocery Company: "We J have explained the situation repeatedly .j to the City Council. We want the Hill Aiaea to have a franchise on East First V Vtpet. on the same basis as the Harri-j-jrnjns. At present there are constant J; delays. We rarely can get shipments i, made on time. We believe that the I- Council should grant the franchise, and j let the matter of settling the switching '. jharges come afterwards." ' W. E. Burdett. manager Oliver Chilled Plow Works, remarked: "We ' feel that the City Council should grant t the Hill lines a franchise on East First fi street, so that one railway will not . have the full control of that avenue. J The Southern Facific wants to retain . ootrol and make a switching arrange I ma"nt with the Hill interests, but the shippers are opposed to that. With "guch an arrangement as that the South ' ern Pacific would be In full control and ' could give Its cars the preference over the Hill cars. By granting a fran- chlse and establishing a common-user J 'provision both would' be on the same .basis and no preference could be ,-sh.pwn. t'afalr Dentin Charged. r r Scott, of the Scott-Munsell fc Implement Company: "We feel tha -thej City Council is not dealing fairly with the Hill lines in delaying granting their franchise and are. acting very unjustly with .the East Side in not gramme. ,,,..,- nrm.-iinn. This delay expensive to the Hill people, who are Joseph Supple, shipbuilder, on East water and tjeimoni sircci. ...-. granting the Hill lines a irancmso " East First streeti At present.w are bottled up completely. John H. Nolta, president of the North Dn,ti,nj Pnmmnrrlnl Club, said: "I be lieve that the Hill lines ought. to be admitted to tne tasi ciae utuj the same basis as the Harriman lines, ui.k.k... ,.m ih. tali. there for more than-half a century. Let there be Anmn.nniiof nrnv nns psiaousueu uu all the streets, including East First, 1UU gito llJ "u billld their own lines, if needed, so both; companies win nave tne came pl'H.nKR Of FIRST STEAM' YKSSF.I OS WILLAMETTE PASSES AWAY. - Isaae A. Gove. Isaac A. Gove, a pioneer of 1S50, who died at Good Samaritan Hospital August 13, was burled yesterday in Sylvan Cemetery, after funeral services at Hol man's undertaking chapel, con ducted by Rev. W. B. Hinson. Mr. Gove was born in York County, Maine, in 1828 and joined the "Users" for California. He came to Portland in the follow ing year and took up his trade of carpenter. He was one of the builders of the steamer Lot Whlt ' comb; the" first steam vessel to run on the Willamette River. His surviving children are: Mrs. Alice A. Orchard, Portland; Mrs. Olive Bnrch, Nahcotta, Wash.; Athene W. Gove and Winifred Gove, Port land, and Dr. Howard "Gove, Prinevllle. , leges. The Hills have spent vast sums on the East Side In acquiring property, which they desire to develop as soon as they get a franchise. Now, it does seem to me that there should be no difficulties in the way of an agreement between the Hill and Harriman Inter ests, as both have interests in common In the upbuilding of the City of Port land. I am confident that the heads of these great lines could be made to get together if the commercial Interest of the city and the leading men would pave the way. I have been told that much of the difficulty In settling the trouble over the railway bridge has been caused by peanut politicians and that the whole matter could have been settled quickly but for their interfer ence. We need the Hills and the Har rlmans, so let them have the same privileges." , Banker Says "Too Much Flsfctlns;. H. H. Newhall, president of the East Side Bank: "I cannot understand why there should be delay in granting the Hill lines the franchise they are asking for. The Harrlmans do not own First or any of the streets, although they have been here a long time. 1 should think that the heads of these two great railroads could get together and settle the question of switching charges and all other questions, and not spend so much time fighting each other. The Hill interests have spent a lot of cash on the East Side, and they will get into that territory in spite of any opposition that may coma up." C A. Blgelow, of Market & Co.: "It would be a great mistake not to grant the Hill lines a franchise on East First street, and place them on equality with, the Harrimans, letting neither have advantage over the other. Other rail ways will be wanting to come into Portland, and we shall be Just as will ing to work for them. No special privi leges are wanted for the Hill lines. A franchise is wanted on East First street as that Is the key to the whole situation." Fred A. Dunham: "I should say give the Hill lines a franchise on East First street, and let the question of switch ing charges be settled afterward. They will then be on an equality and can settle the charges. At present the Harrimans hold the key to the situa tion, and will continue to do so until the Hills have equal rights to East First street. Of course, we need the Hill lines on the East Side." A. W. Currier. Grand avenue mer chant, said: "Give the Hill lines a franchise on East First street first, and let the question of switching charges be settled, afterwards. "I attenaea ine meeting ox tne uiiy Council and was amazed at the attitude of several members of the Council, es pecially that of Councilman Joy, who had his hammer out for everything. What have we to do with the switching charges? Let them be settled by the companies themselves after both com panies have equal rights on East First street, which is, the key to the situa tion." SEA'S TURBULENCE SEEN Seaside Visitors Gratified at Siglit as AVliitecaps Are Watched. SEASIDE. Or., Aug. 17. (Special.) A heavy sou'wester, acting in conjunc tion with the strongest tides of the year, bas been churning up the ocean in a spectacular manner, to the in tense gratification of hundreds of resi dents of interior cities, whose ambi tion it has been to witness one or tne majestic storms that occasionally sweep the Pacific. Few people- get tne opportunity to oe near the beach while one of Winter gales is raging, ana, aitnougn tne Summer population is always anxious for a big blow. It Is seldom that there Is any variation from the mild breezes and days of sunshine. It is only alter a lapse vi several years that the present moody spell shows itself on the sea In the Summer, and wondering crowds line the shore gazing at the dashing surf, and watch rng the struggling gulls. Beyond the shore surf the water is broken by whltecaps as far as the eye can see. CARD OF THANKS. The wife and family of tho late William B. Dalton wish to thank their many friends for their kindness and sympathy, and beautiful floral offer ings during their bereavement. " MINNIE DALTON, W. J. DALTON. E. L. DALTON. Great shoe ale at Rosenthals, EE ONLY IN DEADLOCK Hill, and Harriman Interests, Called by Mayor, Fail to Agree. ' . YOUNG REFUSES PROPOSAL Question of Which Company Shall Assume Railroad Per IMem -, Switching Charge for TJse' ot Tracks' Cause of Halt, The question of which company shall assume the railroad per diem switching charge for use of the Harriman. tracks on East First street, yesterday resulted in the Hill and Harriman Interests abandoning hope of reaching a settle ment in the East Side' controversy. Representatives of the O.-W. B, & N. Company, the Southern Pacific Company and the North Bank. Railway Company met with Mayor Rushlight and Council man Burgard and attempted for more than two hours to effect a settlement, but when the meeting adjourned the question was as far from being settled as before the conference was called. As a result the Hill interests will ap pear before the City Council tomorrow morning and ask that the- proposed franchise covering East Side freight tracks be granted. They will ask that East First street, along which the Har riman main passenger line extends, be included in the common-user franchise and that the Hill cars be allowed to have all the freight privileges enjoyed by the Harriman cars. The per diem question which has en tered into the controversy only in the last few days was the point of argu ment at the meeting. Campbell Suggests Plan. When Mayor Rushlight called the conference to order D. W. Campbell, general superintendent of the Southern Pacific, announced that he had a plan to suggest which would be final as far as his company was concerned. He said the company was willing to do all the switching on East First street for a rate of $2.50 per car plus the per diem rate. He said his company would fur nish the engines and crews and would handle the' cars under instructions from the Hill Interests, and in addition, would grant the Hill line any demur rage on cars which might accrue. This plan was opposed by President Young, of the North Bank line, on the ground that the proposition was not on a par with the switching arrangement between the Southern Pacific and tne O.-W. R. & N. Company, Inasmuch as the agreement there does not exact the per diem charges the Southern Pacific would inflict upon the Hill line under the proposed agreement. Harriman of ficials admitted that the per diem rate is not charged against the O.-W. R. & N-, because the cars of that company are "at home" on the Southern Pacific tracks. The per diem charge at present amounts to between SO and 45 cents per car per day on cars allowed to stand on side tracks. Under a new rule of the American Railway Associa tion which is to take effect July 1. 1913. the rate will be Increased to S1.80 a car. The Hill interests wanted the Harri man Interests to assume that charge while the Harriman interests demanded that the Hill Interests J that charge In addition to the switching charge of $2.50 per car. It was on this point that the hitch came which resulted in a deadlock between the two Interests. Harriman Plaaa Ahead. While the per diem rate at present would amount to only 30 or 46 cents. the Harriman people Insisted that it would increase next year and ror tnat reason they had to plan ahead. They insisted that when the new per diem schedule goes into effect the switching charge under the plan aemanaea oy the Hill Interests would be but 70 cents a car, which rate they declared was unreasonably low and would cause the switching to be done at a great loss. The demurrage for cars which amounts to 1 a day, the Harriman Interests agreed to turn over to the Hill inter ests which, they Insisted, would offset to a degree the per diem charge pro vided cars were allowed to remain on tracks more than 48 hours. After the question, was gone into thoroughly the meeting adjourned with nothing accomplished. A subsequent conference of officials was held in the corridor at the City Hall with the same result. The members of the City Council have been particularly anxious for the two Interests to get together on switching-charges on East First street so that street could be left out of the proposed common-user franchise. With it as a part of the franchise there is a proba bility of the Harriman Interests taking the question into the Federal courts which would cause a tie-up in the common-user plan throughout the East Side probably for years. Court Tle-l" Fereseen. ' It is said the East First street phase of the question would come under Fed eral jurisdiction because It effects a transcontinental line inasmuch as the through interstate passenger trains of the Southern Pacific are operated over that street. Inasmuch as East First street would be a part of the general East Side franchise, t is thought, a Federal court proceeding would tie up the entire franchise. The attitude of the Hill Interests at the meeting may cause some of the members of the City Council, including Mayor Rushlight to change their minds as to the propriety of granting the East Side franchise. Under the switch ing plan proposed by the Harriman In terests the Hill lines would be able to reach all points on First street, ac cording to Mayor Rushlight, while the proposed common-user franchise would eliminate the Htll lines from certain important parts of East First street. According to the map showing the territory to be covered by the franchise the Hill line would be excluded from First street, from Main street to Mar ket street on the south and from Oak to Flanders street on the north, thus eliminating a number of important, warehouses. A heated session of the City Council la expected tomorrow, when the ques tion is discussed. RHUBARB GROWS TO TREE Cowlitz County Specialist Has Mam moth Vegetable Plants. VANCOUVER,' Wash., Aug. 17. (Special.)- Rhubarb, resembling small trees, is being grown by Gus Goerig, near Woodland. In Cowlitz County, and he will have a number of specimens of this on exhibition at the Clark County Fair. Mr. Goerig makes a specialty of growing this vegetable and has reduced its culture to a science and a power to make money. From a small tract he was able to market enough pieplant to lift a big mortgage on his farm. The stalks are as tall as a child 10 years of age and a trio of children could hide under a mammoth, teal ox tne plant. GONFERENG DS -REED-FREN Everybody's Taking Advantage of the REED-FRENCH CO'S GREAT CLOSING PIANO Prices That Make Buying a Duty Now ao,ng.0utCost $200 Pianos . 96 $250 Pianos . ..... $129 $300 Pianos ...... $168 $3SO Pianos . . .... $207 $4SO Pianos ...... $283 EtcEtc $500 Player Pianos . $297 $525 Player Pianos . $317 $565 Player Pianos . $335 $600 Player Pianos . $362 $800 Player Pianos . $477 Etc, Etc A SIOOO.OO Challenge We will donate $1,000.00 in cash to any charitable in stitution that Mayor Rushlight will name if this is not a legitimate, straightforward, bona-fide Closing-Out Sale. We state again in plainest words, that we will donate this sum if the Reed-French Piano Co. does not positively quit the retail piano business and close up shop' just as soon as homes can be found for the fine Pianos and Player Pianos now on hand. We're sincere. We mean business. Our loss is your gain. We haven't a moment to lose now. Our lease expires August 31st only 12 working days away. That's why we've slashed prices to the very bottom. That's why we're offering standard highest grade, well-known estab lished Upright Pianos Baby Grands and the latest 88- Desks, Office Furniture and Fixtures for Sale All " or in Part LIST OF FAIRS L Seventy-Five of Them to Be Held in Northwest. SEPTEMBER TO SEE MOST Small Towns, Big Towns and Cities Included In List of Places Which Hare Made Plans to Bring Oft the Events. Local, county and district fairs will be held at T5 points In the Pacific .v..o.r n-thlTi the next three months. At ome of the smaller towns a tew fairs will be heia mis monm, but the majority of fairs, livestock i ,1 lanl nrnfllirtA MhOWS are UOWI " ------- scheduled for the month of September. The following is a ubi 01 '" v held In the Northwest this year: Aagnmt. Seattle. Wub. Western Washington Fair. AuJ?,J,9Zi' T.lnrnln Countv Fair Fes tival Association, August 20-23. Glendlve, Mont. ubwiud uulj sofiatlton. August 24-26. Portland. Or. Portland Fair Livestock Stock Exhibit. August 26-31. Scio, or. Unn County Fair. August 28-80. September. Salem. Or. Oregon Fair, September 2-7. Enterprise, Or. Wallowa County Fair, SeBT?robw.' Mont Sweet Grass County Fair Association, September 8-6. Cottage Grove, Or Granger District Fair. SeDtember 5-7. , f ewi,burg, Mont. Fergus County Agricul tural Stock & Mineral Assoclaltlon, Beptem- bevanilover. Wash. Clark County Fair, StilS" wit-King County Fair, S.p- teUv'ngston, Mont. Livingston Exposition, September 9-14. Livingston, Mont Park County Fair As- 0Eugene, Or. Second Southern Oregon D A. S-. September 11-14. Gresham. Or. Multnomah County Fair. September 11-14. , La Grande. Or. Union County Fair, Sep tember li-l. ONG SIXTH AND BURNSIDE STREETS Dayton, Wash. Touchet Valley Agricul tural Fair, September 12-14. AHiernl, B. C. Albernl Fair, September 12. Gearhart, Or. Clatsop County Fair, Sep tember 12-15. Clatskanle, Or. Fair. September 29-30. Albany, Or. Fair. September 23-24. Corvallls, Or. Fair, September 23. Crea-well, Or. Fair, September 30. Nehalem. Or. Fair and Flower Show, Sep tember 24. Great Falls, Mont. Northern Montana Fair Association, September 16-21. Walla Walla. Wash. Walla Walla County Fair. September 16-21. Fort Townsend. Wftsh. Olympic Penin sular Fair, September 18-21. Baker, Or. Baker County Fair, Septem ber 18-21. , Kennewick. Wash. Second Annual Grape Carnival. September 19-21. Sandpoint. Idaho Bonner County Fair, September 21-25. Moscow. Idaho Latah County Fair, Sep tember 23-2T North Yakima Wash. Washington State Fair, September 23-28. Pendleton, Or. The Roundup, September 23-28 Helena Mont. Montana State Fair, Sep tember 23-28 Ontario, Or. Malheur Agricultural As sociation, September 24-28. Tekoa. Wash. Harvest Carnival, Septem ber 24-27. Canby. Or. Clackamas County Fair, Sep tember 25-28. Auliland, Or. Southern Oregon District Agricultural Fair. September 25-28. Junction City. Or. Pumpkin Show. Sep tember 26-28. Raymond, Wash. September 26-28. Spokane, Wash Interstate Fair. Chehalls, Wash. Southwest Washington Fair Association, September 80. October 5. Medford. Or. Rogue River Valley Fair Association, September 30, October 4. October. Vancouver, Wash. Clark County Fair, Oc tober 9-14. Grants Pass, Or. County Fair, October 18-20. Hillsboro, Or. Fair, October 18-19. McMinnvllle, Or. Fair, October 24-27. Myrtle Point, Or.. Fair, October 25-2S. Caldwell, Idaho Canyon County Fair, Oc tober 1-4. The Dalles. Or. Second District Eastern Oregon Agricultural Society. October 1-4. Puyallup. Wash. Puyallup Valley Fair, CBo?se, Vdaho Idaho Inter-Mountain Fair, Lewiston. Idaho Lewiston-Clarkston Fan-. October 7-12. Colville, Wash. Stevens County Fair As sociation, October 8-10. Kalispell. Mont. Flathead County Fair. October 8-11. .... Mayville, Or. Eastern Oregon Agricultur al Society, October 9-11. Colfax, Wash. Whitman County Fair, Oc- '"condVnOr. Trl-County Fair, October 15 17 Prinevllle, Or. Crook County Fair, Oc- '"North6 Portland. Or. Pacific International Dairy Show Association, October 18-28. Portland. Or. Paclflo Northwest Land Products Show, October 18-23. Burns. Or. Harney County Fair. October Canyon City Fair October 7-10. Dallas Fail- October 8-5. Arlington Fair October 15-17. Harrlsburg Fair October 23-25. You Choose Between These Well-Known Makes KNABE HAINES BROS. KRELL-FRENCH WiLLARD REED-FRENCH HOWARD and the latest and finest 88-note PLAYER PIANOS also a number of second-hand LUDWIGS, STEINBACH & DREHERS, KINGSBURYS, WASHBURNS, IVERS, etc, virtually given away note Player Pianos at positively the lowest prices ever seen in this city or any other city East West North or South. We can say or do no more. The pianos are here the reductions are genuine and there'll be scores of homes eager to get one. We urge you to act promptly. Come in at the earliest moment the first thing tomorrow morning. While these bare cost prices ought to bring all cash, responsible parties will be granted weekly or monthly terms, if desired. Kemember, too, that every thing will be found exactly as represented or "Money Back." The manufacturers' WRITTEN guarantee will be given with each instrument. Act promptly and you'll save enough money to pay for the musical education of the entire family and then some. TUNNEL WORK TO START COOS LIXE PLAN'S PCRTHEREB BY LABORERS ARRIVAL. Porter Brothers Establish Camp. Marshflcld and North Bend Favor Bridging Bay. MARSHFIELD, Or.. Aug-. 17. (Spe cial.) Porter Brothers, railroad con tractors, have .brought 20 men to Wind Creek, south of Gardiner, where the big tunnel of the Eugene-Coos Bay line is to be built. The contractors are establishing- a camp preparatory to starting the tun nel work and the machinery and equip ment Is to be shipped at once to the Umpqua River. The fact that work on the tunnel Is to be started is highly encouraging- here, as the tunnel is be tween Gardiner and this place and as sures the intention of the road building to this point. The chambers of commerce of Marsh field and North Bend have placed them selves on record as favoring the brldg lng of the bay by the Southern Pa- You Can Have Money upon your real estate If you so desire. IT We have funds to linn unon first mnrte-ns-ea where the security is good, fr Whether you need " a few hundred dol lars on your house, or a large amount on b u s i noss property, we are In a position to assist you. (T Drop in and talk "with the head of our MORTGAGE LOAN DEPARTMENT Harfman-ThQfnpson Bank fourth and Stark Streets e&sax&ar f Commerce uitia LINDEMAN JESSE FRENCH STARCK ARMSTRONG BREWSTER LAGONDA STORE OPEN EVERY EVENING UNTIL 10 cific, provided that the War Department will permit. This action followed the filing of a protest against the bridge which was made by several property owners living on the east side of tha bay. Kiln-dried planer trimmings stove lengths; fine for cooksiove and kind ling. Overton Fuel Company. Main 65. Attend Rosenthal's preat shoe sale." Dark and Chilly Evenings means that you will need additional lighting fixtures and supplies. Also the fireplace may require new furnish ings, such as spark screens, andirons, coal or wood grates. Be sure to bring measurements of fire place opening, to assist us in securing the proper size appliances. M. J. Walsh Co. 311 Stark Street Both Phones