THE SUNDAY OREGONIAX. PORTLAND. NOVEMBER g, 19Ua.
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O'MALLY KNOCKS
OUT GILLNETTERS
Miniature War Between Them
and Proprietors of Sal
mon Wheels.
EXPERT AGAINST ASTORIA
Gtllnetter Allege Thin Concern
tnaj Salmon Which tiovernment
Superintendent Poes Xo
Agree With.
lllnlatur war blwn nalmon
whreli and atlllnet was enacted ye
ferdiv afternoon before members of
the flah committee of the Oretron Con
servation Commission an organization
which is probing the salmon strife ti
determine the bent way of aavlntr the
Chinook Industry uf the Columbia
River. The irillncttors were knocked
down on practically every one of their
contentions by the testimony of Henr
O Mai lev. superintendent of tlie I nited
Plates hatcheriea In Columbia waters,
who was authorized to announce the
opinions of the Bureau of Fisheries
and of himself, l.y If. M. Bowers. Com
missioner of the bureau.
The conflict was especially note
worthy, since it was the first time that
a I'nited states expert has thrown the
authority of the Government opinion
aaralnal the Astoria fish Interests, in a
public meeting, and in defense of the
wheelmen of liie upper river.
H. M. T.orntsen. secretary of the
Fishermen's I'nlnn at Astoria, repre
sented the (tillnetters. and K. M. War
ren and F. A. Seuferl. the wheelmen,
the latter being; the blajnest owners
of that class of gear. The Inquiring
committee was composed of Richard
W. Montague and Ir. J. R. Wilson,
numerous salmon men had been invited
to attend, but those who came were
only II. 7. McAllister. Oregon Fish
Warden. Lorntsen. Warren. Seufert and
OMalley. Kr.rly this week another
hearlnar will be held, for the purpose of
receiving; testimony from other fish
men.
Sword Crossed as Vsual-
Gillnetters and wheelmen crossed
words. In the old familiar way. on the
following propositions, and on each of
them OMalley sided with the wheel
men: Less flst-.lng in Spring and In Auguat.
No flshinii on Sunday.
Regulation of all classes of gear and
abolition of none (meaning wheels'
On none of these contentions could
I.ornmen cope with the forces against
Mm. thous.li he put up a stiff-necked
flsiit. after the manner that he and Ed
Rosenberg, secretary of the Fishermen
of the Pacific, have fought many time
before committees of the Oregon and
the Washington legislatures.
Ixrntsen urged propagation theories,
characteristic of the Astoria Interests,
which O'Malley declared were at vari
ance with the simplest observed facts.
Foi example. I.orntsen declared that
many parent Chinook salmon live after
spawning. He quoted an unheard-of
Government expert nrmd Moffet as
proof and declared that he had caught
one salmon tliat had come down stream
from the spawning grounds, stripped of
eggs. Then he confessed that he had
never seen hatchery work nor visited
the spawning grounds. O'Malley In
vited him to come and see the evi
dence for himself, and promised him
peedy conversion.
Shorten Open Scaon.
Tlie Government expert was authorised
to sneak by Commissioner Bowers, in a
letter from that ofticisl. whlrh followed
the lines of the well-known letter of
Secretary Straus, written to Senator Ful
ton. The Straus letter declared that the
open season should be shortened. Sun
days should be closed, all gear should be
regulated and none abolished. The Bow
ers letter urged these remedies and In ad
dition, the closing of two days every week
in the open season. O'Malley did not. how
ever, feel licensed to speak entirely free.
His remarks were guarded and he founght
liy of factional troubles of the rival
fWieri-s.
O'Mallev signified Indirectly that the
ehlef part of the failure of Oregon and
Washington to enact and enforce con
current legislation la due to Oregon
lawmakers and Hsh wardens, by re
marking: -Tiie Washington people al
ways have been easy to get along
with. Meet them half way and they will
go the other half. If there were Fed
eral control of the fisheries, the laws
would be enforced."
Here K. M. Barren turnxd the blame
on II. Van inisen. Oregon's ex-Kish
Warden, and II. C. McAllister's prede
cessor, by Interjecting:
McAllister Enforces Law.
"The laws in Oregon have been rlg
Idlv enforced since McAllister was war
den." McAllister smiled modestly and
O Mallev assented.
Tlie Government expert recommended
that Clackamas River he closed fo lish
ing. and be made wholly a hatchery
stream. The ban. he said, would affect
onlv a few glllnetters. who could then
take salmon in tne Willamette River.
Seufert declared that aome years ago
the Clackamas was closed by law. but
that In 1"1 "tlie Astorians got In and
opened U" a sally that made I.orntsen
glare at The Dalles man. and would
have started a clasii. had not the war
den Interrupted with a question for
O'Mallev:
What per cent of hatchery fry. on
the wav down the Willamette River
from the Mackenzie station, are de
stroyed at Oregon City in tlia power
wheels?"
"I wouldn't care for a Hsh." was the
response, "that went through a power
wheel."
poesnt eery drop of water go
thmufrh the wheels'."' asked Warren.
Ye." replied O'Malley. and Seufert
added: "It will be worse next year."
Seufert said this with particular pleas
ure, since he fought Van Pusen at the
Installation of the MacKemie hatch
ery, contending that that plant should
p used er.lv as a taking station and
that the infant almon should be lib
erated below ' Willamette ' Kails, In
stead of being allowed to work their
own way down river.
Ick Do Not Help r'ish.
-If I had "XlacKenxie on my hands."
went on O Malley. "I'd want to see the
fish liberated below the Falls."
"What effect have the locks?" asked
Ir. J. R. Wilson.
They are not open enough to help
the salmon." answered O'Malley.
"Do you think it would be well to
free the young fish near salt water?"
asked McAllister, who had in mind a
central hatchery for Oregon, to which
would be carried the eggs taken at
Ontario. Machnzle and other plants.
"I would n t put it too near." Later
In the conference Seufert recommended
such a central station at the mouth
of the Deschutes River. This place
O'Mallev agreed would be suitable.
O'Malley showed that salmon take
longer to spawn In some streams than
In others, due to variations of water
temperature: also that streams vary
from year to year in the number of
salmon they receive. These two con
ditions have much to do with propa
gating, both natural -and artificial.
Cold water retains the development of
the satmo'n eggs.
Warren here put In a dig at the Asto
rians by quoting from an Astoria news
paper the assertion that Kagle Creek, a
Columbia stream, near Bonneville, hss
had more salmon this year than usual
because the Celilo wheels have not been
working. As the wheels have been ia
operation and Eagle Creek is a long
distance downstream from Celilo. War
ren thought he had presented evidence
of what the Vpper River men designate
as the complete ignorance of Lower
River men.
Lorntsen Bristles Up.
This was a "dare" to Lorntsen. and he
at once bristled up. but O'Malley came
between, saying:
"Last year was a poor season at the
Big White Salmon." The egg take was
3.72,"W). "This season is good." (The
eggs being B.WO.WO.) He added that this
season's take at the United States
hatcheries ia up to the average. Already
lt amounts to 24.ono.ono eggs, as follows:
Uttle White Salmon, 10.000.000; Big
White Salmon. i.ioo.ooo; Clackamas,
jnne.ooo: Casadero. o.Son.OOO. Last year
the take wm is.orinno. The Oregon
state hatcheries this year will obtain
s.ono.ono Chinooks, whereas the number
last season wss 8.250.000. These figures
indicate that hatchery supplies of sal
mon hsve not fallen off from last sea
son. However, they have not gained,
arrdlng to the needs of the Industry.
Van Dueen's Ontario hatchery came in
for a rap at thla stage. McAlliater has
recommended abandonment of that cost
ly plant, because Snake River water Is
too muddy for salmon -eggs: because the
hatchery has not a gravity water supply
and because it is out of the wsy as a
central station. Seufert remarked that
Deschutes River Is a suitable location.
Then O'Malley aald:
"What Is needed is a natural salmon
stream. You must use water that sal
mon naturally spawo In."
Egg Need Warm Waler.
Seufert cited that while water at to
degrees would hatch salmon in say 52
days, at 40 degrees the time would be WO
days. "Cold." he explained, "etsrde
the eggs. That ia Nature's provision to
hold the eggs dormant till Spring." He
added that the infant fish immediately
fed on the carcass of the parent fish,
which always lay near by. That was
another wise provision of Nature, this
time to afford the Infants food. He had
planted young fry In an enclosed lake
near Celilo and had observed that that
was the food they subsisted on. O'Mal
ley remarked that in the Spring there is
much more food of vsrlous sorts for the
oung salmon than In Winter.
Seufert gave as a reason for the later
return of salmon than formerly the re
tarding Influence of muddy water In the
Columbia. "Between March 15 and May
IS the river is almost black. ' This is
caused by the soil wash of a vast area
of plowed land. In olden days this was
not so. Salmon move slower through
this water than they used to do.
The open season should not begin until
May IS."
Thia caused Iorntsen to ask sneer-
ingly:
"So that you can get more fish?"
Seufert I suppose you think they'd
stop and wait for the wheels?
Lorntsen Wouldn't you have a fine
catch?
Seufert Yes. they'd swim up to The
Dalles and say: "Seufert has a per
petual motion merry-go-round. I want
to ride."
Catch Xotr Comes Later.
Chairman Montague ended the clash
by - asking Lorntsen about the fish
runs. The Astoria man said the
heaviest is in August, and Warren cited
that it used to be tn June. That sea
son's fish are little caught in the upper
river on account of the Columbia flood.
Wheelmen blaine glllnetters for the al
most complete extinction of June fish.
Warren said that the heavy runs are
now in August, for the reason that the
hatcheries have propagated that kind
of fish. The salmon have been coming
In late, have spawned late and "we
hsve supplemented early fish with
late."
"Th fish we now get on August 20."
said Warren, correspond with those we
used to get about Auguat ii." O'Malley
corroborated this testimony.
I.orrtsen We didn't see so many sal
mon in August years ago as we do
now."
Seufert asserted that the Astoria
glllnets hold the fish outside the river
and they come in late and spawn late.
"Those nets.'; said he. "scare 'em away
and keep em out of the river."
Warren said that the river still has a
big supply of fish, and that as many
Chinooks were caught this year as ever
before, although the canned pack Is not
so large. Seufert remarked that the
Chinooks have Increased in five years.
Clash Over Glllnets.
Seufert said that wheels are less de
structive to salmon becadse they do not
take salmon at night. The fish do not
travel at night, said he. But the glllnets
come along at night and kill 'em.
Lorntsen Glllnets are the only gear
that give salmon a chance. They work
only six hours a day.
Seufert Tes but you come along and
murder 'em: that's what you do. You
catch over 4 per cent of the fish. You
caught more for the Co-operative Can
nery on August 1 than my whole year's
pack.
Lorntsen What of it?
Seufert Tou say I kill too many fish.
Jjomtsen But there were 3.V boats.
Seufert Yes but they kill 'em didn't
they?
Lorntsen The only way to ' save the
salmon Is to stop Ashing above tidewater.
Warren Who broke the Sunday law.
but the fishermen?
Lorntsen Aren't you a fisherman?
Chairman Montague Come, gentlemen;
It doesn't make any difference to the
fish who is tite bad man.
After some further fruitless wrangling,
the meeting adjourned.
Next came up the question whether the
parent salmon die. Lorntsen contended
that in many cases they survive and
spawn again. This startled O'Malley.
"Are you familiar with a man named
Moffet?" asked the Astoria gillnetter, cit
ing an authority.
Spanned Fish Die.
Nobody present had heard of him.
though Lorntsen said he w-as a Govern
ment expert.
"He says they caught spawned fish the
second and third year," remarked Lornt
sen. Seufert Who caught them?
Lorntsen The hatchery people.
O'Malley I've read nearly every Gov
ernment report on the subject, and I can't
believe It.
Seufert ssid that several years ago
many male salmon, after having spawned,
were branded and turned looee. Not one
of 'them ever was seen again. Warren
quoted a lot of authorities to discredit
Lorntsen's expert. O'Malley said that At
lantic Coast salmon do not die after
spawning, but that Chinooks are not like
them In that respect.
Seufert. to Ijorntsen Did you ever catch
a striped sAlmon?
Lorntsen Yes; once.
Wsrren Does one swallow make a
Summer?
OMalley Have you ever been on a
spawning ground?
Lorntsen No.
O'Malley You go on. and your mind
will be wholly changed.
Tomorrow and Tuesday positively
last days for discount on West Side gas
bills. Don't forget to read gas tips.
SMILES WHILE HE
DRAINS
YML
Bert Ross, Ball-Player, of The
Dalles, Despondent, -Takes
Life.
LOVE AFFAIR THE CAUSE
Former Los Angeles Man Leaves
ote to Miss Agnes . Sklbbee,
Whose Parent- Objected
to Victim's Stilt.
Bert Ross, ex-ball player, of Los An
geles. Cal.. committed suicide last
night shortly before 6 o'clock by
drinking two ounces of carbolic acid
in the saloon at 10SV Sixth street. He
was removed to St. Vincent's Hospital
In the Red Cross ambulance but died
a few momenta-after his arrival there.
Ross took the fatal draught wblle
smiling and joking. He walked Into
the saloon and greeted Beck Keith, one
of the proprietors, with a cheery salu
tation. Keith being well acquainted
with him. greeted him cordially.
"Some people make the mistake of
getting blue when they ought not to."
ssid Ross to Keith. "Now. take me.
for instance, I have had more than
enough trouble but you see that I'm
not Wue. What's the use? Tou know
the old saying: 'Smile and the world
smiles wT.h you. weep and you weep
alone.' Well, there's more truth than
poetry In that."
Writes His Last Message.
Ross sauntered about the place,
watched the players at the billiard
tables for a few moments and then re
turned to the bar to chat with Keith.
"Keith, old man." said he. "have you
got a piece 9( paper? I must write
a message, that I've forgotten, that's
very important. Keith went over to
his safe and took out a pad of writing
paper and handed Ross a sheet. After
thanking him for it. Ross walked to
the rear of the room, seated himself
at a table and wrote the following-..
"Please notify Miss Agnes Sklbbee,
of the Dalles, Or.; also my sister. Mlsa
Elsie Ross. 24 East Twenty-fifth
street, Los Angeles: also my brother
who runs the Fashion stables there at
213 East First street."
When he had finished writing, Ross
took a bottle out of lila pocket and
calling to Keith. "Well, old man. here's
good luck and good-bye to you."
drained it to the last drop. Keith, not
knowing what he was drinking, nodded
at him, but -was astonished when he
arose, walked to him and thrust the
piece of paper In his hands with the
request. "Please do It for me. it's In a
good cause." With that he walked
back to his seat and succumbed to the
acid.
Dies at the Hospital.
The saloonman rushed back. and.
reading the label on the bottle, called
for help. The -lctlm was taken at once
to the hospital, but when the doctors
started to work they found that Ross
was dead. He breathed his last just
after he had been transferred from the
ambulance to the second floor of ths
hospital surgery. The Coroner wss
notified and took charge of the re
mains. Ross was about iO years of age and
had been living In (his city since the
close of the baseball season, during
which he had been on the team of The
Dslles. During the past weeks, he
had been working for various commis
sion houses as an egg candler. He
lived In rooms over the Green River
Saloon with H. Herbert, an employe
of the Hudson Printing Company. His
relatives have been notified.
Some friends of Ross say that his
act was caused by the refusal of the
parents of Miss Agnes Skibbee. of The
Dalles, of his offer to marry their
daughter. Rosa had said recently that
this refussl nan- cut mm Keenly, iiw
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TRAVELING MEN WIN FIGHT
Xew Mileage Books Will Be Issued
November 15.
After a series of conferences with the
officials of the Harriman lines, the com
mercial traveling men of Oregon. Wash
ington and Idaho have won their cam
paign for Interchangeable mileage books,
good over all the lines of the system in
the Northwest. On November 15 these
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tions of the Southern Pacific in Oregon
and on the O. R. N. in Oregon. Wash
ington and Idaho. The books will cost
S50 each, which means a rate of VJ, cents
a mile. Thev will be Interchangeable on
any of the roads and their branches, but
will not be transferable.
At present the traveling men are pro
vided with two classes of books, one
costing 30 and the other 90. The latter
books mean a straight 3-cent fare, but
through a refunding system, maintained
at the San Francisco offices of the Har
riman lines, a rebate of Vt cent a mile
was secured. This caused a great deal
of annovance to the traveling men.
AU of the credit in securing the im
provement belongs to the members of
the Travelers' Protective Association of
Portland. The work was In charge of
the special railroad committee of the as
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L. Dick. J.- Wood Smith and F. P. King.
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PERSONALMENTION.
Mrs. McGlashan hae been ill and is
confined to her home. 140 West Park
street, by a severe attack of sciatica.
Rev. M. J. Ballantyne. of Dallas, pre
siding elder for the United Evangelical
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Must Sot Enter Saloons.
By an order issued by Ralph Blals
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this territory, the men under him are
prohibited from entering a saloon for
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65. In explanation of his order, Mr.
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Contractor Gibson Fined.
Municipal Judge Van Zante fined G. S.
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