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About The Sunday Oregonian. (Portland, Ore.) 1881-current | View Entire Issue (March 25, 1906)
PAGES 1 T0 12 W:4 PORTLAND, OREGOX, SUXDAY MORNING, MARCH 25, 1906. PRICE FIVE CENTS. Ej VOL. XXV XO. 12. I mm run niTP nnnniiT mm i Bill ii 1 1 1 1 iai i i i I ma 31 it DUUbm FOR FftGTO B I ES Exposition Grounds to Be Hive of Industry. PURCHASE PRICE $500,000 Lafe Pence Interests John S. McMillin in Large Project. BIG ENTERPRISES COMING Manufacturing Kslnhlishnicnls Will Find Homes in Leu is and Clark lSxhlhit Buildings Which Will He Saved. ntHLTHNfiS COST AKMOST AS M I'CII AS Pl'ItCHASK PRICK. Jnh S. McMllltn and his associate pM ir the Kxposltlon grounds and UMlMlMCf the rum of 54r..00. This lipwrr shww tin increase In property valwatfea At the Fair or fully 100 per rrmt during the past 1 4 month. The rfuwtw cw approximately sr.H.VMM) an ttn dzen buildings about S20.000. Tkr Mr advantnge to the Investors Ik r4ltt' apparent In view of the fact that the building In question alone wt a total turn of $407.K0 less than a rar ajr Their great decrease In atwe wa due to the fact that the mrnpttires were thought to he of no firUer ue of a practicable nature afir the elos of the Fair. The eot of constructing tho differ ent building Included In the Mr MHItn purchase was a follows: California building Washington building . . Tratirportatlon building .$ ns.non . n.".ooo . 20.000 10.000 . r.s.ooo . 1R.000 . 7.i,000 . sn.ooo . 52.000 H.flOO . 1.1.000 . 35.000 .$407:i00 Mining building IJberal Arts building. . Auditorium Agriculture! palace Pwelga whlbltii building Oriental building Oregon Mate building.... row County building. . . . JdlserHnneeu structures.. Total... A oaiorpriKP that will convert the 1.ewte and Clark Exposition into a great manufacturing area and tend to make Portland the manufacturing center of the PaoWic Northwest has taken definite frm. The great Exposition grounds lave been bought up at a cost of ap proximately $500,000. Within a few months, according to pres et Hans, the she of the Portland Ccn- wimlal win bo a scene of factories and ir-mHdoiiP activity. Three railroads will Ut the beehive of Industry, and many 'tiWiWc articles of manufacture will be -upplled and distributed from this point t Um groat Northwest, as well as the Mle-tH. Tin- Portland Centennial is not rty to remain in jormanent form, but is wrk tin inception of vast new Indus mes of Inestimable value to citv and John S. McMillin. the Seattle capital m. is prime mover In the big undertak es. Associated with him are a number nt Uastom and Western investors who lire said to have galneiT the greatest con- Mcnce In the future of Portland and Orpge. For three months past Mr. Mc MIIMn's representatives have been oper ating, but with such' secrecy that the facts did not become generally known un- it yesterday. Hljr Fnctorles Coining. Haa'ing purchased the entire upper por tion of tho Exposition, excepting only the Forestry building, which belongs to the Hty. Mr. McMillin and his business as slates are engaged In Interesting big manufacturing firms. The basic idea of. ihe project i? that of giving these big pro dtcr a rare opportunity to gain an oco wmlcal footing in the vast new tradefiehl f the Northwest. While the names of the firms are withheld. It is known that two great woolen mills have already jpok en for Fpace. and that a big water-pipe manufacturing firm is bartering for the Transportation building in order to es tablish a branch factory to supply the contribulary country. The Oriental build ing will be occupied by a big woolen-mill concern from the-East. It Is known, fur thermore, that negotiations are pending for several others of the big buildings. The Portland Development Company is the, name assumed by the new organiza tion. While this new company has In vested iseo.000. and the name has appeared frequently on the real estate transfer rec ords at the Courthouse, the purposes of. its existence have remained a mystery to the -public at large. During the very time that thousands were, bemoaning the de struction of the exhibit buildings at the Fair Grounds, this same company was buying up the various holdings, lot by lot. with the Idea of keeping the principal portion of the Exposition Intact. The present instance will mark, the first time In the history of great expositions, that the site and exhibit buildings have been retained. Transportation Facilities Unequaled. It was the wonderful adaptability of the grounds to the uses of factories that first attracted the outside Investors. It stood at the very edge of the city, and the transportation facilities were unequaled. allrMds ran within throwing distance, an4 the Willamette River was conveni ent. Railroad spurs can be run to the door or Interior of any buIMing on the grounds with little expense and lese de lay. Thn tHe iermaeit character e the exMfeJL bviMtngs was another Mg lacier la h4chg the onlerprtee. NeUi- valwattoH at the Fair of fully 100 per t rtmt during the past 14 month. The T grMM4t cow approximately $.;r,.(M0 j an ttn dozen buildings about S20.000. TUr Mg advantage to the Investors Is t 4 roadftr apparent In view of the fact I that ttte buildings In question alone ing but the best timber had been used the various structures about the grounds. Competent engineers passing upon them said that, with occasional im provements and slight alterations, all the buildings would stand the -wear and tear of years of active use. Knowing the desire of many Eastern producers to gain a footing here, lr. Mc Millin and his fellow Investors proceeded to organize the Portland Development Company. Portland, tney aeciaea. wab the natural distributing point of the Pa cific Northwest, and of this fact tney must take advantage, rcgardlcs ol dis affiliations. Whether the new company will Install factories or commission or storage house? on Us own account Is not definitely known at this time. So far as has been stated. the Investors will confine themselves to Interesting manufacturers and business firms on a rental or sale basis. The full scope of the enterprise cannot be known until the return of Mr. McMillin from the East, where he is attending a meeting of the National Railroad Commission. Purchases 3Iadc by J. T. Ross. The purchasing of the Exposition grounds has been marked by many dif ficulties. It was parceled nut In small lots among many owners. There were some who believed Its purchase could not be effected short of a fortune. Upon the or ganization of the company several monUw ago, Mr. McMillin and his associates cast about for some one whose diplomacy and business ability fitted lilm to effect the work. J. Thorbum Ross, manager of the Title Guarantee & Trust Company, was selected. When seen yesterday by an Orcgonlan representative. Mr. Ross expressed some surprise that the matter had been made public, but admitted the accuracy of the details as just set out. He admitted that the buying up of the parceled Exposition grounds has caused him a few 5lceplcss nights, spent in laying plans. Speaking of the Portland Development Company, he said: "The coming of Mr. McMillin into the local field as an investor means much to Portland. Mr. McMillin is a shrewd busi ness man and a careful Investor, who has the full confidence of a number of big capitalists. He has gone about tin pres ent enterprise in a thorough and busl- ncss-llko manner, eliminating all specu lative features and cutting right down 10 the root of the proposition. Ilia plans as to the future arc retained to a large ex tent. Yet. in a general way. It may be said that he Intends bringing manufac turing concerns to Portland and utilizing the nplendid opportunities of Portland as a great manufacturing and exporting center. "Manufacturers have experienced great difficulty In securing suitable factory sites and when Mr. McMillin looked over the Exposition grounds It struck him as being the ideal place. "In the first place It was right at the doors of tho city; there was a great ex panse of floor space in the durable build ings already standing, and there was a large aggregate amount of ground con venient to transportation. The chief ad vantage, however, as I understand It, Is that manufacturers generally are coming to look upon this as the natural distribut ing point for the Northwest. New condi tions are arising In the Northwest, and Portland plainly seems to be the focal point. Jlr. rcMIHIn's Energy. "As to those associated with Mr. McMil lan I am not Informed, but thoro Is every assurance that Mr. McMillin. who is an Indefatigable worker, will carry the proj ect through to success. Two or three of the largest firms in the United States are now figuring on the establishment of branch factories at the Exposition grounds. "It may seem to abutting property-owners that the operation of these factories will not be for their best Interests," con tinued Mr. Ross, "but there can be no dispute but that It is for "he vcrv best MEN WHO ORGANIZED THE SMC: V Interests of the city, and this gigantic proposition, with all Its contributing fac tors, should, when worked out. serve to give.Portland the lead In the Northwest." Twelve, buIWIns and approximately 70, acres of land are toclu-ifted In the pur chase. Three months ago when the buy- CMedd Tare 8.) GETS CONFESSION 5 Hadley Induces Admission Owns "Competitors' " Stock. It ROGERS ANSWERS QUERIES ZlIuMcr of Monopoly Changes Tone ami Lawyers Say Standard Owns llic JJcpubllc and AVatcrs I'lerec Companies. NEW YORK. March 24. H. H. Rog ers touay answered tho questions put to him by Attorney-General Hadley of Missouri. In the proceedings to oust the standard OH Company, the Waters Pierce Oil Company and the Republic OH Company from Missouri, and the Standard 11 lawyers admitted that thf Standard owns a majority of the slock of the other two companies. Thus Mr. Hadley has overcome his most recalci trant witness and' has proved the main point of his contention. On Monday he will go further snd prove by documen- Ijife V rencr. Jon of I.afe Tence, Who Suggested the Idea of l!nc the KxnoItin IluMding fr 1'ac torleh. tary nnd other evidence that the three companies are all managed by the Standard officials at 25 Broadway. There was a decided change In Mr. Rogers' ' manner under examination, but he still pleaded lapse of memory or ignorance on several important points. "W. G. Rockefeller also testi fied and his memory failed on ievoral questions. Mr. Rogers admitted that he was a stockholder in the Standard Oil Company of Indiana, hut said he did not know in detail of the conditions of the ?ak of oil in Missouri, nor, did he know about the ' division of that state between the Wat PORTLAND DEVELOPMENT EXPOSITION 7? FROM Ti Jmmmmi9 mtm' 'kmmtrmmwm ers-Pierce and Republic Oil Companies. The examination proceeded: "Do you own or control any stock in the Waters-Pierce Company 'yourself or through another person "I do not." "Do you know M. M. Van Burcrrr' "I have heard of him." "He L" a son-in-law of John D. Arch- bald, is he not?" j "So I have understood. "In H. M. Tlirord a director of the Standard Oil Company?" "I don't know: I don't think so." - "Do you know what business he is in?" "I think he Is connected with the Con tinental Company." "Has Mr. Tllford an office at 36 Broad way?" "I think he has." "Is the business of the Standard Oil Company of Indiana controlled In Mis souri by any trade committee with offices at 2C Broadway?" "Not to my knowledge." "What business connection have' you. If any, with the business of selling and ro finlng petroleum in Missouri?" "I have none." "You swear that part of the business 1 controlled and managed by others?" "Yes, the detail work is." "Who Is tho president of the Standard OH Company of Indiana?" "D. A. MofTat. I think." "Do you know Walter C. Teaglc?" "Yes." ; "You said before that Mr. Toaglc waw In some foreign business. Is that in connec tion with the Standard OUT "I understand so." "Where If Mr. Moffatt's office?" "I believe It Is at V Broadway." "Did you ever have a conference with Mr. Moffatt there?"- "I have." "Was It on business connected with the business of the Standard Oil Company of Indiana, and did you meet him at 2$ Broadway?" "I presume that it wa: 1 don't recall now?" "You know of the cxlsjonce of the AVatcrs-Piercc Oil Company of Missouri do you not?" Admits Owning "Competitors. "I have heard of It," replied Mr. Rogers. Mr. Hadley then rend a question asked at the previous hearing, which charged that the Waters-Pierce Company and the Republic Oil Company and the Standard Oil Company of Indiaua were doing busi ness in Missouri in violation of taw slate's antl-trupt law. "Is It not a fact that the stock of theso three companion is held by the Standard Oil Comnny of Isew Jersey or by some person or persons in trust for il for n combination. trust. confederation or agreement?" the Attorney-General naked, "My knowledge Is extremely limited as to such details." answered Mr. Rogers. Judge Johnson, oue of the attorneys for the Standard Oil Company, tlfen had it noted on the record that the Standard OH Company would admit, for the purpose of the present litigation, that tho stock of the Republic Olf Company and the WatexPlerce Oil Company and the Standard Oil Company of Indiana was held In trust by the Standard Oi. Com pany of New Jermy. Judge Priest, also counsel for the Stand ard Oil Company, wild the stock showing on the stock book of the Waters-Pierce Company as standing In the name of M. M. Van Burcn was held in the interests of the Standard Company of New Jersey, and that they made that admission for the purpose of this litigation. "I don't' suppow the stock la held for the purposes of this litigation," observed Mr. Hadley. "No. the admission Is made for the pur Mve of this litigation." replied Judge Priest. The Standard Oil attorneys had the ad- (Concluded on Pace ) COMPANY, WHICH BOUGHT THE LEWIS AND CLARK GROUNDS NEW SPELLING'S CHIEF CHAMPION Carnegie Makes Plea" for Mak ing the English Lan guage Easier' FUTURE WORLD'S TONGUE New Words and Spellings Adopted to Meet New Wants Simpler Spell ing Will Save Children One Ycars Schooling. HOT SPRINGS. Va.. March 2t.-Andrcw Carnegie made a statement today giving his view on the proposed reform of Eng lish spelling. He said: "From Chaucer's time and before till now. our language has been constantly changing and improving, not under any rule or system, but simply as occasion has required new words and new spelling. "The groat Oxford dictionary, now un der publication, gives the history of each word, and shows that words creep in our language in the moat haphazard manner. A now word expresses a new want, or an old want, better than the word in use did. and so forces Itself Into use. Nothing can bar It out. whllo the word Invited with the strictest rogard to rules may apply In vain. Slang Soon Becomes Correct. "What Is slung one year is correct Eng lish a few years later. Thus Is our lan guage enriched. It Is a slow process, but a steady and sure one. All the struggles of pednnts and purists are helpless against It. "The organized effort I have agreed to. finance Is not revolutionary, far from it." Its action will be conservative. Word after word. It will endeavor to Improve the spelling and the language. Slowly, of course, but hastening the pace Is pos sible. "The editors who are disposd to ridi cule the effort themselves use words, and especially spellings, which their predeces sors of a century ago would have de nounced as degrading literature. The ed itors or the next century will, in turn, marvel at the 'uncouth spelling of our present scribes. Should Welcome New Spelling. "Since our language has been construct ed through unceasing change. literary men should welcome new words and new spellings with favoring eye, since It is by these alone that further Improvement 'can come. Scholars denounced 'plow for 'plough.' in one Instance, but 'plow' has been ncccptcd. So with many words that will readily occur to the reader. "Our language Is likely to prevail In the world, and we may hope It Is to become finally the unlvcrsol language, the most potent of all Instruments for drawing the race together, insuring pence and advanc ing civilization. The foreigner has the greatest difficulty In acquiring It because of its spelling. This is. at least, his chief obstacle; for Its grammar Is easy. "Hundreds of scholarly men have agreed to use Improved spelling for 12 words. These words are already well C: Marled In actual- useS Other simplifica tions will be suggested, until. If meritor ious, they will be accepted. " - Save Year's Schooling-. "Teachers have assured me that chil dren would be saved raore than a year's Instruction if our spelling were simpli fied. Why. the perverse 'ough seilig should be continued I cannot understand. We understand tho; It expresses exactly the same sense as 'though, ami expresses Um Mtutd setter. Th-t cJuuh k at oce obviously advantageous and I find many already using It in writing and some of these are British authors. Indeed. tho' with the superfluous apostrophe abounds In -British authors from Addison down. We just drop the apostrophe. That tho will get Into general use is certain. Our successors will smile at the 'ough spell ing, as we today at what we called the queer' spelling of Chaucer. Make English World's Language. "In trying to hasten the use of sim plified spelling and to Improve our own language for the struggle for first place, which is even today upon us. we are en gaged In a most useful work. 1 hope that thoughtful people will give this important and progressive form due consideration and resolve touse at least two or three simplified wordp. and thus range them selves with us in our effort to carry on the unceasing work of Improving our mother tongue and adapting It for its noble purpose and high destiny." SEVEN KILLED BY TRAIN Farmers Covered Wagon Kttn Down on Grade Crossing. SCNBURY. Pa.. March 24. Seven people met death here this afternoon when the Philadelphia & Reading No. 3 ran into a farmer's covered wagon at a grade crossing near here. Only one In the wagon escaped death. The dead: WASHINGTON NEIDIG. rrni's neidig. MHS. CVRfS NEIDIG. CLARENCE NEIDIG. THREE CHILDREN OK MRS. CHARLES NEIDIG. The party were returning to their homes In Rappaho township from this place. Washington Neidig. who drove, did not see the engine which struck the wagon squarely In the middle. The bodies were carried along for several hundred yards and were horribly mu tilated. CONTENTS TODAY'S PAPER The Weather. YESTERDAY'S Maximum temperature. C.l Oeg.; minimum. 40. rreelpltatlon. trace. TODAY'S Partly rloudy. Variable winds. Foreign. Russia openly declares for France In Mo rocco alTaJr and Germany raises prates?. Pase a. Agreement at Algeclras expeeted Monday. Page 3. Czar Davlnc way for coiwtltutlanal mon archy. Page 13. National. House passes anti-hazing bill and Hepourn scores naval officers. Pase ... Landts plan for reform in Governing Print ing Office. Pane 3. Conferences at White House on Bristol case. Page '1. Politics. Mellen attacks Interstate Commerce Com mission. Page M. Grafters' j:o-between exposes their methods --at Cincinnati. Page IJncoIn Steffen discusses graft of National banks. Page 1. Domestic. Rosers teMlfles In Standard Olf ca?e and Standard lawyers admit facts Hartley wants proved. Page 1. J. P. Morgan flees from Italy In fear of assassination. Page -. Coal mine conference plays waiting game- Page IX Carnegie's plea for spelling reform. Page 1. Crank In Philadelphia- tries to shoot Weav er's lawyer. Page Jt. What- Rockefeller's grandson could do with his fortune. Tage 3. Rebels In Samar entrap Governor Curry and capture him. Tage 2. New York Ironworker confesses attempt to blow up building. Page o. Romantic marriage of son of President Zelaya of Nicaragua. Page Sport. II. Kerrigan writes on amateur atit- , letics. Page IB. Portland Kennel Club la Incorporated. Page 16. Baseball grounds at Stockton flooded Pare''. News and notes of the automobile world. Page 10. Fl?hters are afraid of Gans. Page 1. Native son wins Bell stakes at Oakland races. Page 13. Sensational bowling at Louisville Congress: Chicago team leads at week enl. Page Jay Gould, son of multi-millionaire, w tennis match. PagV IK. Pacific Coast. Eoldemlr In feared among people who at tended funeral of victims of peculiar malady at Munkers. Or. Page 3. Proposal to open part of Cascade reserve Is not well received In Lane county, rage John Rtpllnger. defeated candidate far Se attle Mayoralty, forced to sell his home. Page A. Denrlty of candidates for the Oregon Legis lature. Page 3. PoiYlanri brother goes to rescue Seattle sis ter In distress too late to save her rea son. Page -I. Commercial and Marine. Hop dealers making contracts liberally, Page 33. Evaporated apples advance at San Fran tlsco. Page S3. Wheat half-cent lowejr at Chicago. Page 33. Strong josltlon of stock market. Page Si Smalt changes shewn la bank statement. Page 33. Large fleet of cement carriers being headed for Portland. Page H. Longshoreman meet with fatal accident on board steamer Cambrian King. Page II French bark General Neumayer brings r port of awful storms oft Cape Horn. Page H. Portland and Vicinity. Exposition grounds and buildings bought by Portland Development Company to- be used tor manufacturing purposes. Page 1 Flaws In the city charter aid the plutocrats. Page 10. Blasting of Castle Rock will seriously delay construction of North-Bank Road. Page 11. Demand for realty continues to grow, Page 17. Change In charter of Pacific University makes It nonsectarian. Page 21. Judge Marauam asks rehearing of Supreme Court. Page 0. NoLsy prisoner In Jail beaten by cellmate. Tage 21. Featare a ad Depart hi cuts. Editorial. Page . Church announcements. Page 31. Classified advertisements. Pages 17-23. George Ade la pastures new. Page 3S. Arralcis girl extracting a fortune from the public Page 41. Tears do not cause wrinkles. Page 13. Where family expenses are $230,000 a year. Page 44. "Thirty years of the telephone. Page 45. Centennial or Pikes Peak. Page 43. Frederic J. Haskln's letter. Page 40. Recollections of George H. Williams. Page 43. Fifty years of street railroading. Page 43. Xisa Tingle's cooking lesson. Page .43. Uncle Sfkm as a peacemaker. Page 39. Seek reviews. Page 34. Secktl. Pages 28-27. Dramatic Page -S- Mwskal. Page 29. The Raeievelt Sear. Page I : HetweheH and faWse. Paxea 12-43. Ysttta's srtmtat. 2ae 17. ' L BUNKERS t BIG GRAFT Public Funds on De- positDrawNolnterest PARALLEL IN CINCINNATI Banks There Paid Treasurer for Use of County's Money. DEPOSITS EAGERLY SOUGHT Secretary of Treasury Shaw Ex plains That Dunks Arc Unable to Give Bonds as Security and Pay Interest, Too. WASHINGTON. March 23. OpecialCor re-spondence.) Out in Cincinnati a com mittee of the Ohio State LcRlsIaturc has been invc.stitra.ting the methods of ex-Boss Cox. Tills committee seems to have be gun about where most investigators leave off; with the financial system that is back of all political organizations. The first Inquiry in Cincinnati was into the rela tions of the banks to the city and county treasuries, and the result was received with many manifestations of amazement, in Ohio and elsewhere. Just why anybody anywhere (in the United States) should have shown surprise Is not perfectly clear. Cincinnati knew the facts lonjr af?o: pcoplo out there told me about them in 1904 and 1505. What went on there has sonc on in other cities and counties and states. And It goes on here in the United States. The Cincinnati disclosures showed. In brief, thnt the local banks had the use of the county's funds without compensation to the county. The National banks' have the use of United States funds all the time and they pay nothing; to the Govern ment for the public moneys. In Cincinnati the unounts were comparatively small. Oue bank there hadIOO.'wW: another, jill. S33.71. which rose sometimes to $S0O,0': another bank "an average of $2S0,C00." and so on. A report of the Secretary of the United States Treasury says that in the midsummer of 1S92 the balances of the United States funds In depository banks were "reduced to their normal average. J13.000.000." On .March 4. 1S37. 156 National banks held $15,000,000. That was near the "normal average." Special transactions raised the deposits later In that year, first to J37.714.217. .then to J4D.182.717. But by Jlay. 1S3S. these deposits had been reduced again to J28.ono.X. Then came the war with Spain and another exceptional period which raised the amount to J94.000.CCO. Then came exceptional prosperity, which required the use of public moneys in pri vate business, and after that a period of apprehension which required the Govern ment to come to the relief of the money market. "by no means a new thing," as Secretary Windom said. Wall Street Xot Tor Payinp. And not a bad thing, in itself. It is ab surd to have millions stacked up In the vaults of the Government when a nation has need or use for money. But why shouldn't the public's millions be paid for? "Oh." exclaims Wall street, "that's a. dreadful idea." I can't see why. I was a Wall-street reporter for a couple of very strenuous years, and I have heard, and written, and felt, the gratitude of "the public" when J. P. Morgan or a group of patriotic bankers got together and smashed a soaring money market by lend ing their good (depositors') money down to 13 and 20 per cent when the prevail ing rates were 73 and 100 per cent. Of course they began . to offer their good money at 75 and 100 per cent, but they let It out on the scale down all the way to 15. Nevertheless, this was noble and busi ness was relieved. But also I have waited for and run to the telephone with, the good news that the Secretary of tho Treasury had come, in those same crises, to the relief of the market in the same way except that he did not lend, he "de posited" funds. And he did not cfiarga Interest: the depository ' did. Why shouldn't the Government have had soma profit out of its nobility? Can't Quote the Secretary. There are reasons, and the Secretary of the Treasury explained them to me. Ha wouldn't let me quote him. I find T may ask questions In Washington, all I please, and they will answer them. They will tell me anything I want to know, almost, but upon one killing condition I must not tell you. So the Hon. Leslie M. Shaw gave ma half an hour of his valuable time to ex plain that the public must not be paid anything for the profitable use by bank ers of public moneys, and I couldn't un T derstand. They were all familiar reasons, too, the Same that 1 used to hear In Wall street. Any banker will give them to you, and you may be convinced, but I wasn't. The Secretary was quite put out with me over it; he said so plainly, very plainly. Sir. Shaw Is "another Abe Lincoln." There are several public men besides Mr. Speak er Cannon who. because they have some of the faults of the great President,, are ' called by his name. Seems to me Mr. Shaw's own name describes him better, but he is called "another Abe Lincoln." and as such he expressed his impatience, and I didn't mind. All that troubled me was that when I left him I had but one good reason why the United States Treas ury should lend out to the banks at no in terest some J15.00O.O06 to J2&.OCO,0G0 which the banks lend eut at call rates or better. An4 that reasoa I knew before I called. (CMctofed es Page 19.1 Mr