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JUNE 17, 1998
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Body, M i n d &Qfbl>irit
1010 AM
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Inspiring Radio Talk Show:
With host Jean Boucher
T h is sh o w is a b o u t m o v in g sto ­
ries and c h a lle n g e s, e x p e rie n c in g
pain and d ealin g w ith re la tio n sh ip s,
plus b o o k s w h ich w ill c h a n g e y o u r
life.
T h e fo llo w in g e x c e rp t is fro m a
p rev io u s ra d io sh o w se ssio n .
J e a n B o u c h e r: A n y th o u g h ts
about th e T h u rsto n H ig h S ch o o l
sh o o tin g ?
F ir st C a ll e r In ste a d o f p o in t­
ing a fin g e r a n d s a y in g , “O h th is
boy, how te rrib le o f h im ," w e n eed
to p ray d e e p ly fo r h is h e a lin g as
w ell as o u r o w n .
I b eliev e th e re ’s a c h ild in each o f
us w h eth er w e are in o u r m o th e r’s
w om b o r 9 9 y ears o ld . T o tap into
that child an d heal th e w o u n d s o f th e
past is w hat S p irit is a sk in g us to do.
S e c o n d C a lle r : W e can feel th e
N ew Y ork T im es b estseller list and
has so ld m o re th an a m illio n c o p ­
ies. S h e is an A m erican w o m a n
th at w as su m m o n e d by a re m o te
P o st O ffic e a n d n o w in sc h o o ls an d
trib e o f n o m ad ic A b o rig in a ls w h o
call th e m se lv e s th e “ R eal P e o p le "
to a c c o m p a n y th em on a four-
m o n th -lo n g w alk ab o u t th ro u g h the
O u tb a c k o f A u stralia. W h ile tra v ­
elin g b a re fo o t w ith them th ro u g h
1,4 0 0 m iles o f ru g g ed d e se rt te r­
rain , sh e learn ed a new w ay o f life,
in c lu d in g th e ir m eth o d s o f h e a l­
in g , b ased o n th e w isd o m o f th e ir
5 0 ,0 0 0 -y e a r-o ld cu ltu re.
Q : W hy a re y o u call a M u ta n t by
th e A b o rig in e s?
M a r i o : It w as u sed in re fe re n c e
to th e trib e o f p e o p le I w as w ith.
T h e y ca lle d th e m se lv e s “ R e b e l” ,
" U n c h a n g e d ” , “ T h in k s in O n e ­
th in g w ro n g .
T h ir d C a lle r : W e liv e in an A d o ­
le sc e n t S o c ie ty an d w e seem stu ck
in it. A d u lts a re re v ertin g back to
a d o le s c e n c e w h ile k ids stay in it.
C o lle c tiv e ly , w e d o n ’t m atu re w ell.
A n d so, y o u h a v e th ese g e n e ra tio n s
w h e re o u r p o p c u ltu re e n c o u ra g e s
th at. A n d , th e r e ’s a c a su a ln e ss to all
th is v io le n c e , a p a th y an d sarcasm .
been so m a n y o f th e s e sh o o tin g s.
b ey o n d that.
J oy R amos
tan t M essag e D o w n U n d e r” and
“ M u tan t M essa g e From F o re v e r”
is an in te rn a tio n a lly ren o w n fig ­
ure. H er b o o k s h av e b een o n the
p ro b le m s w ith gan g s.
T h e c lo s e r w e g et to a p erso n al
a n d so cietal tra n sfo rm a tio n (th e
lig h te r sid e), th e d a rk e r so m e o f
th e s e th in g s w ill b e at first. I th in k
th at m e a n s th e re is a w a k e -u p call
fo r all o f us an d w e n eed to listen. If
p e o p le d id n ’t g o c o m p le te ly o f f th e
w all, w e w o u ld n ’t know th e re ’s a n y ­
It’s very ad o lescen t beh av io r. T h ere
by
M ario M o rg an , a u th o r o f “ M u ­
T h e re w as a rash o f sh o o tin g s at th e
pain as in d iv id u a ls an d as a so ciety .
P eo p le a re a sk in g w h y th e re h a v e
lU IT A IM T M IB S A 6 Ê F IR @ M © © W IN
n e ss ." W h en th ey re fe rre d to m e,
th e y said , “ Y o u ’re no lo n g e r like
F irst P eople. Y o u ’v e c h a n g e d . Y ou
th in k in S e p a ra te n e s s . Y o u ’v e
is n 't e n o u g h o f an in flu e n c e to g et
m u ta te d .’’
Eric Vormanns:
Master Healer From
Ghana
lifestyle, w e h a v e lost th at an d now
w e th in k in S e p a ra te n e ss. W e te n d to
think that th e r e ’s not e n o u g h to g o
aro u n d ; lim ited. W e e a c h h av e to get
o u r ow n.
Q : A re ch ild re n eq u a l in th e A b ­
o rig in e so ciety ?
M a r io ; Y es. T h e y lo o k at a ch ild
by loo k in g into h is e y e s, b e h in d the
eyes. A n d , w h en th e y sp e a k to a
ch ild , th e y sp e a k to th e F o re v e r
(S pirit) part o f th e ch ild . T o th e m , all
S ouls are eq u al. T h e y a re all b rig h t
and beau tifu l light.
Q : H ow im p o rtan t is th e sp iritu a l
ed u catio n o f a c h ild ?
M a r io : A b o rig in e s d iffe re n tia te
betw een k n o w le d g e an d w isd o m . T o
them , k n o w le d g e is h o w y o u le a m
s o m e th in g th r o u g h e x p e r i e n c e .
S o m eo n e sh o w s y o u h o w to m a k e a
b o o m eran g , how to th ro w it, h o w to
select th e w ood.
W isd o m to th em is e n tire ly s e p a ­
rate. T h e y b e lie v e th at w e can g o to
the lib rary and read e v e ry book th a t’s
in th e library an d c o m e o u t v e ry
know ledgeable, but not h a v e a n o u n ce
o f w isd o m .
W isd o m to th e m is h o w y o u ap p ly
k n o w le d g e re g a rd le ss o f h o w y o u
Mario Morgan with an Aborigine elder from Australia
Q : W h y a re d re a m s im p o rta n t to
a n d t e l l i n g th e m o f t h i n g s to
A b o rig in e s?
M a r io : D ream s a re fo r g u id a n c e .
T h e A b o rig in e s d o n ’t ask fo r g u id ­
com e.
T h e y d re a m d u rin g th e d a y .
a n ce fro m an an g e l o r g u ru , b u t th ey
w o u ld say th a t’s p e rfe c tly alrig h t.
th e ir s y s te m s a c tu a lly g o in to a l­
T h ey bel ieve that m an k in d o rig i­
o b tain the k n o w led g e.
T h e ir lives a re sp e n t o b ta in in g
nal ly th o u g h t in O n e n e ss.T h a t th ey
w isd o m . H ow d o y o u w ise ly d eal
w ere c o n n ected to each other. T h ey
w ith in tru d ers? H ow d o y o u w ise ly
deal w ith the O u tsid e W o rld w h en
T h e y g e t th e ir g u id a n c e from th e ir
I ’v e se e n th e m w ith th e flu tte r­
th e y 'r e p o llu tin g th e sk y an d w a te r?
H ow d o w e do w h a t’s b e st an d in th e
o w n H ig h e r Self.
D r e a m i n g to th e m is t h e i r S o u l
ing o f th e e y e lid s. D re a m s are v e ry
h ig h est g o o d fo r all c o n c e rn e d ?
t a l k i n g to th e m , g i v i n g a d v ic e
w e re c o n n e c te d to th e E arth , to the
e le m e n ts, to th e p lan ets an d a n i­
m als.
T hro u g h tim e a n d c h a n g e s in
T h e y b e c o m e q u ie t a n d still a n d
p h a w a v e le n g th state.
sh o rt. I’m ta lk in g a b o u t a m in u te
to o n e an d a h a lf m in u te s.
A B O R IG IN E M E S S A G E E R O M E O R E V E R
by
B ee L ake
Thefollowingmessageapplies to souls
everyw here. This is a standard that has
been held by m y people in the O utback
N ation) Austral ia)sm ce the beginningof
time.
1. Y ou should express y o u r indi­
v id u al creativ ity . W hen one rises up
against the odds, w hen w e strive to re­
lease our creative consciousness, it car­
ries great merit.
2. R ealize th a t you a re a cco u n t­
‘•Enc Vormanns is shown practicing Etheric Healing on Linda Huff at
tne House o f Umoja.
• “ I f w e re a lly w a n t to h elp c h il­
d ren . w e n e e d to w o rk w ith th em in
th e ir in n e r p ro c e s s o f S e lf-d is c o v ­
ery W h en th ey u n d e rsta n d th eir T ru e
S elv es, th ey d o n ’t b e c o m e afra id and
can e n jo y th e ir natu ral ta len ts to serv e
hum anity.
P ro v id in g a sp iritu al e d u catio n to
ch ild ren is im p o rtan t. T h at m ean s
sh o w in g th em h o w to tap into th eir
in tu itiv e k n o w in g a n d th e h e a le r
w ithin. E v e ry o n e h as th e g ift o f h eal­
ing an d c h ild re n h av e th at naturally.
H ealin g issim p lic ity , lo v e an d caring.
I teac h ch ild re n b y w o rk in g on
th e ir level. In w ard ly , I v iew th eir
“e n e rg y ” as it is c h a n g in g an d use m y
in tu itio n to lead th em to learn . It is an
e x p erien tial p ro c e s s to c o n n e c t w ith
th e ir in n er k n o w in g . W h en th ey get
it, th ey h av e it fo rev er.
H u m an ity is su ffe rin g o n a d eep
level. W hen I d o h e a lin g w o rk , I get
to p eo p le’s “ ro o t" p ro b le m s an d teach
them to find th e ir“c e n te r” . T h at “c e n ­
te r" is th eir so u rc e o f p e a c e an d tra n ­
q u ility. T h e y g et a g o o d ta s te o f b a l­
a n ce and n e v e r fo rg et it."
When 1 ask you to listen to me
and you start giving advice
you have not done what 1 asked.
When I ask you to listen to me
and you begin to tell me why
I shouldn't feel that way,
you are trampling on my feelings.
When I ask you to listen to me
and you feel you have to
do something to solve my problem
you have failed me,
strange as that may seem.
Listen!
A ll I asked was that you listen,
not talk or do - just hear me.
Advice is cheap; you can get both
Dear Abby and B illie Graham
in the same newspaper.
And I can do for myself;
I ’m not helpless
Maybe discouraged and faltering,
but not helpless.
When you do something for me that
I can and need to do for myself,
you contribute to my fear
and weakness.
'
But, when you accept as a simple fact
that I do feel what I feel, no matter
how irrational, than I can quit trying to
convince you and can get about the
business of understanding what's behind this irrational feeling.
And when that's clear,
the answers are obvious
and 1 don't need advice.
Irrational feelings make sense when we understand
what's behind them.
So, please listen and just hear me.
And, if you want to talk, wait a minute for your turn;
and I'll listen to you.
Anonymous
6. Be a ste w a rd o f y o u r en erg y .
Every word, every action, every thought
uct o f society. Heart talk is from Forever.
m ained so, but our gift lets us believe and
10. O b se r v e w ith ou t ju d g in g . O b­
you focus carries with it energy C ollec­
serving w ithout judging is som etim es
act otherwise. Ifyoujudge, you must also
leam to forgive.
tive energy that results in w hat w e see,
ealled"U neonditionalL ove.” E aehofus
w as given the sam e one gift, the gift o f
T here are no m istakes in term s o f
Forever. Y ou c an ’t m ake a m istake be­
free will, freedom o f choice. W e w ere
created spiritually perfect and have re­
cause hum an life is your gift and you are
;ind in unseen layers o f consciousness
that surround people and places.
O ur w ords are never captured, never
corrected, never retracted. They becom e
a portion o ffre layer encircling the planet.
O ver time, the layer has becom e so filled
with victim s’ screams, with violent ac­
tions; with selfish, limited thoughts thata
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layer o f victim consciousness has now
able. T his rule goes hand in hand with
creativity. Y ou are held accountable for
w hat you create and share with the world,
for safeguarding others and not harm ing
life.
3. B efore b irth , you agreed to help
today are in victim consciousness mode.
o th e rs. T he hum an existence is not one
m eant to be spent as a sole traveler. W e
are designed to support and care for one
another. Everything w e do should be
W e created it, and w e m ust dispel it. This
can be accom plished by each o f us be­
com ing aw are o f our stew ardship and
setting an example.
done with the thought in mind,”W hat is
the highest good for all o f life every­
w here?"
7. In d u lg e in m usic. M usic is your
soul speaking. It is the voiceofourplanet
com m unicating to the universe.
4. M a tu re em otionally. As you m a­
ture and gain insight into what it is to be
hum an, the goal is to grow, to discipline
and select your emotions.
Relationships and incidents arecireles.
T hey start, continue, and stop at som e
8. S triv e to achieve w isdom . W is­
point. I fyou m ature emotionally, there is
no di fticulty in closing each circle, leav­
ing no frayed edges, no negative feel ings.
formed. People on earth find it easier to
A M
tap into that negativity than to bore through
it and reach above it.
M ore than halfthe souls visiting earth
June 21st. Lynn Peabody & Michael Doud
of Eco Team
June 28th. John Poling, publisher of
Community Connexion,
July 5th. Delmar Martin, Unity of Gresham
Minister talks about Healing.
July 12th. Brad Smith, a Business Coach/
Intuition & Enlightenment Trainer.
July 19th. Bob Berg, author of “Winning
Without Intimidation.”
know ledge. It is a show o f w isdom to
honor the purpose o f all things and to do
frat w hich is in the highest good forall life
everywhere.
9 . 1 x-am Self-discipline. It is neces­
sary to develop self-discipline to experi­
ence any innerconnectednessofbixJy and
soul. Leam the difference between what
and not alw ays rem aining in the role o f
one being entertained.
your head says and listening to the m es­
sage from your heart. I lead talk is a prod-
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