Black firm sells ’’IT” detergent
P o lls M ili keting N | levalop-
ment C o ip , u black m a r
keting film out of Oakland,
C a lifo rn ia . s , h iiis o io i I a llu y e i s
Lunclieon on Wwlnesday m o r
ning, A p r il 19th m 11:00 in
tlie 1 lull»lei b ird M o to r Inn
at Jant/en Beach. llu y e i s
representing a ll flat u ia jm
g io o e iy m a ike t chains at-
teiKtod fo r the presentation
of a new pi win t, " | | " Laun
d ry
I le te ig e n t, developed,
m a tke tw l .ual <11sti llxited by
P o lls M arketing 6 Develop
ment (,'orpoi atlon (I’MI >).
I lie luncheon was arranged
and host« I by I .eon I la i l l s ,
A d m ln ls ti atoi foi ilie P o rt-
h in t lle p a ttm e n t ol Human
l.e lt to lig h t: I eon H u r Is; John !• o id . P resident, P o lls M a rke t
ing \ | le velo plng ;C harles Rangel, Vice P resident; I e l Belcham,
Executive V ice President - shown displaying P o lls product
■ ' l l " , a h lu le g i adeahlo laundi y detergent.
“ I I * ’ Is succes lu lly c o n i|ie tin g w ith o th e i laun diyd eterg en ts
in C a lifo i nla and Nevada, anil Is soon to le introduced to Oregon
hy P o lls M arke ting •< Developm ent.
P o lls was host«! m P o rtla n d by M r . H a rris and M r.
Paul Knauls ol Geneva's Restaurant.
around the d is trib u tio n ol
P M Ii products tliloug h tlie
chains repreeerned. I ’M D D f-
fic e is expect that as a resu lt
of the discussions Safeway,
I-le d M eyei and other large
chains would le leaders In
supporting them Ijy placing
la ig e o rd e rs .
C a lifo i m a's
leading bains, including Sale-
way lead o llie rs s im ila rly
when HM D 's lu s t product was
ready to te d ls ti th titc l.
I tie rem arkable sale , suc
cess in C a lifo rn ia of the young
H irn 's products is based on
An in te rv ie w
Hy Stephan G. G ilb e t t
Albany, ( uegon
M rs . I- iy Abraham stendet
Is an Oakland attorney who
| m i tlcip ated in the defense of
I d i idge C le a ve r, 11 iey | .
Newlon and George Jackson,
slie was responsible fo r com
p ilin g tlie le tte rs of Geotge
Jackson fo r t ie hook soi l -
HAD H R o n il R: I HI PRISON'
letters
op ta;oRGi
JAC KStiN . She lias also just
completed w orking on die book
M AXIM ! M S li d R I IY: I.I. I -
II.R s I Ri iM p r i s o n , « h ie d
■ 1 •
25 pp.; Jo.95, A paperback
« Ilio n by Bantam w ill le
pu blish» ! soon. I ay attended
R e«l C ollege, the I n iv e is ity
of C a lifo rn ia at B erkeley, anil
the I n iv e is ity ol Chicago).aw
school. | l e follow ing in te i-
vlew was taped in le i Oak
land o ffic e on M a rc h 9 , 1972,
she spoke in P ortla nd A p ril
I 4- 16.
Q;
Why dkt you decide lo
go to law school?
I S:
I decided to go to law
school her ause it d id n 't seem
that the o rd in a ry clu ze n co u ld
have any influence ot do any
thing, ol that what inyhudy
thought ot said made any d if
ference. I had th is idea that
the things one thought ami said
m ight have some e tle c t ll one
went to law school. I think
in a c e rta in wav I was i ight—
and In a c e ita ln way I was
naive.
Hut now, of course,
we have the situa tion in the
movement w h o r e
to tlie
extent that that’ s n u e , it's
regarded is a ve ry te r r ib le
thing — (hat p iotesslona ls
arxl e lite p riv ile g e d types
make decieone which o ilie r
people ought to make. I was
ve ry surp rised when I went
to law school to tim I out that
it was a ll about business ami
p ro p e rty ami c o ip o ia tlo n s and
accounting
Chat was a rude
shock, Ixn lieillg at Chicago
kind of liel|ied because It had
a t i ad It loti ot le in g an In te l
lectual law school, and there
was a lot ol connection w ith
people In die graduate school
com m unity,
Qf
A re there m ore women
going into law now in the Hay
area 7
FSl
The numtiei of women
In (lie C n lv e rs lty o fC a lifo rn la
I .aw school class is supposed
to be enoim ous - - a th ird of
the class o r som ething. I t ’ s
a big Increase.
Q! How does le in g a law yer
f it In w ith having a fa m ily and
taking care of housework ami
so on? Youi husband,M arvin,
Is a lawyei too — do you and
M a iv ln s h ire the housework
equally?
PS:
I worked half tim e fo r
about eight yea rs, ami I d id n 't
work at a ll fro m the tim e that
Neal was born to (he tim e (hat
F i l l was born, so that fo r
about three years I d id n 't
w ork and I was home when
they were real Infants, You
can’ t re a lly ra ise babies ami
w o rk without any help. Then
I wotked half tun e, ami now
I hursday A p r il 27. 1972 Page 7
March
(C ontinu«! fro m page I)
Re sources Albina M u lll-S e i-
vlce C e n to . M r . H a rris Is
anxious to see th is young black
organization get a soutsl foot
ing in tlie (uegon business
com m unity. He o p tim is tic a lly
looks fo rw a itl to tlie 'lay wlien
PMI I w ill need a packaging
plant In tu e g o n , tlie ieb y p ro
viding much nueded jobs.
The new de teigent, " I I " ,
is form ulated and packaged
to please all housewives, in
cluding it« ecology minded,
I tie regula i deteigent Is box«l
In a 49 oz. size, and tlw non-
p o llu te i comes in concen
tra te d form in a 5 lb. box,
l i e tevo lutio na i y packaging
Concept em ploys a live model
shown on the 5 colot seal
eial boxes, c a llin g attention
to Its e lf on any m a ik e t shelf.
lU scussions it this m o r
nings
lunclieon
centeied
P o rtla n d /o b s e iv e i
When you were w orking
G a rry (C h arle s G arry,
Huey P. Newton's lawyer) did
is i do ie s e a i cb fo i him ,
oi d k l you gel up amt argue
in court?
I'b :
W e ll, I did a lot ot
arguing ui c o u rt hut I argued
m otions ami ip ie a ls ami so
on in C O H ft, I d k ln 't do ju t v
ti la ls, which take all day and
a lot ol e v tia e ffo i t and you've
got to te tlie re con tinu ally.
You can 't go home at three
o 'c lo c k , I did go to com l a
lo t.
C o u rt is m ostly in the
m ornings, except ol cuui se,
jui y d ia ls which in n a ll d iv .
II I had leen w orking lu ll tim e
ami had had re a lly good lielp
w ith the c h ild re n , o r child
care centei s o r things like
that I pi obably would havedone
m ore ju ry woi k and I probably
would have done m ore tr ia l
work ami w o u ld probably
le doing m ore todav, so it
d * l have an e ffect - it kepi
me out ol tlie kinds ol things
that re q u ire vooi total ap-
p re ntich shlp
when
you 're
younger.
QJ
D o you teel that you’ re
at a disadvantage le in g a
woman when y o u argue in
court?
ES:
I'm not at a diaadvan
advantage
in
te im s
of
having a lo t ol tr ia l ex
|e i lence, because dui mg the
years when |eo ple get that
experience I was home taking
care of the c h ild re n . Ih .itw .is
m y own pei son.il pi oblein. It
Isn 't so much that I w ant«!
to work lu ll tim e .
I think
women should le able lo w ork
hall tim e when then kids are
s m a ll.
Hut it did w ork out
that tlie re were c e rta in things
that I d k ln 't get as much tra in
ing In fo r that reason.
i j t Do you leel that le in g a
woman gives von any advan
tages in re la tin g to p rlso n e rs?
F.s:
I think it's a personal
m a ile r. I think some women
relate v e ry w e ll to priso n e rs
ami some men do and vice
v e is a - some don’ t. I think
th a t's
in d ivid u a lly
d e te r
m ined,
(?:
You said something the
oth er day about taking m ore
tim e off fro m w ork lo i e ith e r
recre atio n o r to le w ith the
kid s. What made you decide
to do that?
FS:
Employment
A I 'l l . N I ION LADIES
N ice op()oi tun ity to e a rn e xtra
money, p a rt-tim e . I 'o r in te r
view call 2 3 4 - 5761.
Lahcu forem an - $624-6X8
per month at Oregon 5tate
U n iv e rs ity .
S u p e r v is o r y
background In street ami road
maintenance w ork esse ntia l,
semi resume to C lassifie d
Pei .onnel o ffic e , OSI , P.O.
Box 1086, C o rv a llis o r c a ll
754- 1103.
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Latest and m odern method
g u ju n te e s that you can learn
to play e ith e i in s tru m e n t.F o i
>d
287-1634.
S team fittei - $759-836 fie r
month at Oregon State U ni
v e rs ity .
Oregon p lum b er’ s
license re q uire d. M ust have
steam and hot water system s
experience. Semi resume to
C la s s ifi« ! Personnel O ffice ,
OSI ,
P .O . Pox
1086,
FOR SALE
(d i. Just woi king double
sh ifts fo i two years - re a lly
w orking way ovei lu ll lim e,
alm ost double tim e , I just
re a lly got very exhaust«! and
realized I was re a lly down
to a situation where I lite r a lly
dkl alm ost nothing but work
am! then fa ll in lx»! exhaust«!
ami ju s t tlie to ll ot that a lte r
a couple ol years; I guess
t ie tru e analysis ot It is that
at this |>oint 1 don't teel guilty
about not working that hard.
H e r e 's so much w o rk. You
could w o rk tr ip le tune fo r
you i e n tire I
lie.
QS What was your ro le ui
getting M -LED AD BROTHER
p u blish« ! 7
I S: I he f ir s t hall ol tlie book
is le u e is that George Jack-
son w rote to h is la m ily before
I eve r m et him , which I ac
quired at G eorge's request.
A lte r 1 had gotten about five
le tte rs I realized tliat he was
not ju s t a b r illia n t person,
but a w r ite r .
| took these
le tte rs to Jean Genet, who
h ippcn«l to le in tlie country
at t ie tim e , ami although te
speaks no E nglish, th is was
done through an In te rp re te r,
and he said that they were
im le«l very good am! tliat
he was quite a w r ite r ami
that he would have them
p rin t« ! in Prance, ami at this
point I c o lle c t« ! the e a rlie i
o ie s and tle n tin ough Jessica
M ltlo rd u tu a llv got to this
agent who sold the book.
:
How
lid M A X I M I M
M 't’l R| i"Y o iig in a te ?
q
EM
W e ll, that is le tte rs
m ostly to me Ixit also to some
ol these young law yers who
w e ie w o i king around on these
p ris o n e rs ’ issues w ith ne at
that tim e , am! there we just
iw that those two were ve ry,
very pow erful, ami we gave
them to the same agent who
had done si i| I.D A D H R i 11 HI R
ami this tim e she sold tlie
collectio n to Dutton.
Now
Bantam w ill again do a paper
back.
W hen w ill tins paperback
le out?
1-5:
It may le out in two
oi three m onths.
I ’m not
sure.
(?:
What can |ieople on the
outside do In llie way ol sup-
poi l lo r pi isoners?
FS:
W ell, there is this IN -
511 >1. t il I program whh h is
developing a com m unity sup
port group lo i p ris o n e rs .
(Inside ( mt / p.<). Box 5311 /
Room 215, 61(1 W llla m e tte St.,
Eugene, ( ir e . 97-toi. F o r in
h u m a tio n
ca ll
342-6403)
I h e re ’s a ll kinds of things.
I here are book pro gra m s ami
pi Isoner correspondence p ro
gram s ami com m unity events-
people that go in to re la te to
p ris o n e rs , so rt o l bringing the
com m unity into the prison ami
try in g to get the p riso n e rs out
Into the com m unity.
Just
understanding what the p r i
sons are lik e ami what the
problem s of p riso n e rs are
like when they get out. Nobody
understands - - it's
ju s t an
outcast caste which m ost peo
ple who don’ t have re la tive s
involved w ith It - - which is
m ost people - - ju st have no
klea.
We have this s o rt of
1962 C A D ILLA C Sedan de
v ille .
PS, PB. PW , 6-way
Power Seats, Radio with power
antennae,
heater /d e fro s te r,
facto y a ir conditioning, 390
cubic
inch engine, much,
much m ore
A gre at buy fo r
only $550 o r best o ffe r. C a ll
282-0067 a fte r 5 p.m .
7 LADIES
10 - 15 hours a week, y o u
choose hours. Pleasant, en
joyable custo m e r serv i enear
home. C a ll 234-5763 lor per
sonal tn te ivie w .
C o r
v a llis o r c a ll 754-3103.
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fo r service in the Model C itie s
a r e a . Interested p e r s o n s
should contact M s. Janet Sweet
or M s. Annie A lien at 288-9145
M o n da y-F rid ay, 9 a .m .-5 p .m .
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Service, 73 N . e . M o r r is .
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[ with experience.
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Please te ll them that FREE
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W ashers and D ry e rs , We service all appliances, all makes.
2142
222-2124.
N K illin g s w o rth
Ph,285-4732
w ith Fay Stender
I work fu ll tim e or m ore. We
don't have any help with the
house and it 's d ir t ie r than we
would like It to In ami I do
a litt le ami M a rv in d ie s a
little , Ixit we do n't do v e iy
much ami it 's a so rt of on
tm uing problem which is never
to ta lly solved. Sometime-. I'm
so exhausted dial we eat out.
We eat i-ut m ore than we
would lik e in te rm s ot how
much it costs. M a rvin doe«
m ore housework than m ost
men. I in (lie othei hand, tie
does less than I do so (here
s till is a kind of a d ille re n -
tia l.
I s t ill do m ore than
lie does, although lie does a
Ian am< m t, iml our c h ild re n
don't
do
anywliere
near
enough.
Q:
lo i
P M li's unique approach to
m a ike tin g which re fle c ts the
com m unity ex|iei lence ot Its
young executives who are
tunoJ-on, In touch and tru ly
fa m ilia r w ith the needs ami
'lu s tre s of today'sconsum ers.
I lie tremendous sales vol
ume genet atei I by P M D 's " ll ”
de teig en t, is the f ir s t step
In die Black f ir m * ! goal to
■ levelop p to g ia m s ami p io -
ducts which relate the needs
and opinions of tlie m in o rity
com m unity to die A m erican
m ainstream .
ponents fo r the “ e le ctro n ic
ba ttle fie ld .*'
I he reaction against large
companies such as l, T .T , ami
other a n u s m an ufacture rs on
tlie p a rt of those opposed to
the w a i, constitutes a “ pro
test beneath the p ro te s t".
I his protest is a c ry in the
w ilderness against a techno
c ra tic society which values
P 'x lu c tio n ami p ro fit ovei loss
ol life in liuman te rm s , ft is
a system which makes no
in o a l judgement as to how
products are us«! o r against
whom, o r what the effect is
on the environm ent, as long
as pruuuction continues. It
seems to this re p o rte r, that
much of the p ro te s te r's ad
m ira tio n of the V ie t Cong
stems Iro m an id e n tifica tio n
w ith tliein as the sm all man
strugg ling against an indus-
t ila l m onster. I his id e n tifi
cation re su lts Iro m a common
pligh t on the pa rt ol many
in this country who leel alien
ated 11 u iii tlie forces of big
industry who have neglected
out human ne «ls too long.
h o rro r - - this s o rt ot out
cast caste th a t's teen around
a ll this tune. In C a lifo rn ia
it is a whole way ot I lie to r
many fa m ilie s to be d e ci
mated, disrupted, am) des
tro y « ! by m ostly th e ir inen
le in g o il in Youth A u th o rity
and p riso n s.
Now in white
com m unities, in states like
Oregon and Washington ami
so on, few er m e n d e rs ol the
com m unity have re la tiv e s in
p rison s so th e re fo re the o r
d in a ry com m unity is very
unaware
the hideous pro
blems lacing p ris o n e rs a n l
th e ir fa m ilie s , m te rm s ol
jobs, and status, ami
tance, ami ju s t s u rv iv a l when
they get out.
One re a lly
learns a lot about what this
society is bas«l on by seeing
who they lock up. E sse n tia lly,
aside fro m some c rim e s ol
passion, they lock up people
who have no money, no p ro
p e rty, and no jobs:
people
who stole things. So it ’ s a
way of enforcing the whole
p ro jie rty tilin g . It's not rea lly
entorced by consensus with
regard to the w orking classes.
It's e n lo rc « ! by p riso n .
I
WANTED
’ M en an d W om en
I
I
H irin g
G ood
I JZoast
in M AXIM U M
SECURITY?
W hy would it
le ol interest to the general
public?
Is :
It's p o w e rfu lly ami in
tim ately w ritte n . You'd read
it lo r the same reasons you’d
read a w ar novel.
It was
w ritte n by people who have
had experiences tlia t are p io -
lound a m i- in th is c a s e - -
te r r ib le , ami yet in some sense
b e au tifu l,
T h e ir sufferin gs
a re n 't beautiful, Ixit the la d
that
ireople
retain
th e ir
humanitv in spite ol th e ir
s u lle i ings and le com e , some
ol them, re a lly philo sop he rs—
that is beautiful. It le sci d e s
lile In a rat maze where
everything is set up against
the p ris o n e r so that lie has
to dedicate Ins e n tire being
to s u rv iv a l.
It's pow erfully
expressed. Some ot it is very
w e ll w ritte n .
A ll ot it is
com pellingly w ritte n .
Q:
I was surprise.1 that a
lot ol the p riso n e rs |xit th e ir
real names on the le tte rs .
FS: Alm ost a ll. In (act, all
dkl txd we took a lew oil
because there were only a
verv lew who had s o rt of made
it out ol lockup by the tune
this hook was out who we
thought - - ami they fe lt - - did
not want to jeopardize th e ir
getting thrown hack into the
hole
ove r
these
le tte rs .
Everybody |xit tlie tr names
on them o rig in a lly .
I hev
w eren’ t w ritte n fo r publica
tion, ixit every body w as asked
if they wanted to le in this
book.
QS
Do you think t ie people
who w ro te those le tte rs w ill
le subject to repi tsals?
FS.
W e ll, they a ll would
le except that th e y 're a ll in
the hole and th e re 's no m ore
re p ris a ls »hat can te taken.
These are lo n g -te rm lockup
people whom the state was
going to keep In as long as
they possibly could, so tle s e
are je o p le e sse n tia lly against
whom you ju s t couldn’ t take
any m ore repi isa ls.
N.E.
W anted
Paper boys for
the Portland
Observer
fo r ja n ito r ia l service."
im m e d ia te ly .
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b en efits.
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c a ll'
WANTED
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3 9 7 3 N .E .R o d ne y
2 8 4 -8 0 8 9
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and Telephone Reassurers
Home maintenance background in
minor repairs and supervisory
experience required.
$700.00 per month.
Make application at, or send
resume to:
Senior Adult Service Center
3904 N.E. Union Avenue
Portland,Oregon 97212
Closing date for applications is
April 28, 1972 at 5:00 p.m.
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Neighborhood B il l’ s Sausage I td .......................95 N. I lllam ook
Georgia P a cific B ld g ................................................... 900 S.W. 5th
County C o u rt H o use.................................................... 1021 S.W. 4th
P aige's P re s c rip tio n P h a rm a cy............................... 2701 N .E. 7th
G rant High P h a rm a c y ............................................. 2647 N.E. 33rd
f reedom B u n k ....................................................... 2737 N .E. Union
Rich Si S Cigar Man .........................................
734 SW Alder
G re n fe ll's F o a l M a r k e t.......................................... 4239 N.E. Union
L illia n 's Beauty Salon....................................... 3<’ 3-> N. W illia m s
M axey’ s B e tte r B u y................................................4b0l N . W illia m s
M I’e rts o n ’ s .......................................................... 909 N. K illin g s w o rth
C la rk M a ik e t ........................................................ 833 N. Peninsula
F red M e y e r s ............................... ........................... 5408 N .E, Union
Phipps P harm acy.............................................. 4001 N . M is s is s ip p i
Cathay G ro c e ry .................................................. ’619 N. W illia m s
P d P - M A G ro c e ry ............................................... -517 N ,W illia m s
Shop & Save S u p e rm a rk e t................................... 4947 N, W illiam s
15th Avenue r h r ifr w a y ...............................................2526 N .E . 15th
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Portland. Ore. 97211
Neat 2 tx lrm . - g a r. - level
50 x 100 lot - $6,500.
L o t s - zoned com m ercial -
5,000 sq. i t , 2 - IO.OOOsq.lt.-
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3 tx lrm . - '0 .x 100 co rn e r -
fr u it trees - fc b . - te rm s.
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» tx lrm . bi ic k - t il« ! roof home,
fin is h « ' bsm t. w ith party rm .
and fire p la ce . 2 -2 /3 baths,
w w carpet, covered patio,
it'le . g a r , lots of shrubbery,
priced fo r quick sale.
N orth side - 3 B d rm s .-b s m t.
Jble. g a r .- 5 0 x 1 0 0 lo t -$ 6 ,5 0 0
2 M r m . - 50 x 100 lot - fr u it Home and income - 4 apts. -
$9,500.
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