TOE 3I0RXING OREGOXIAN, SATURDAY, FEBRTJAHT 4, 1923 FREIGHT RATE CUT ' HELD IMPOSSIBLE Roads Are Impoverished, Hoover Testifies. CONSTRUCTION IS ADVISED I'ntil Readjustment Is Made, Eco nomic Machine Vill Mots Slowly, Secretary Asserts. WASHINGTON. D. C.. Feb. S. Gen era! freight rate reductions are Impos sible at this time because of the im poverished state of the railroad sys tems of the country. Secretary of Commerce Hoover testified today be fore the interstate commerce com mission invest igatioa of transporta tion rate levels. Uctii rates come down and railroad expenditures for new construction and betterments climb up, Mr. Hoover declared, "the economic machine will move slowly. He added, however. that in his opinion railway operating costs. In which connection he men tioned ware scales, must come down and railroad credit must be bettered before rales can be safely reduced. Spread" Held te Blame. Most of the existing; economic de pression la due to the "spread" be tween the prices received by pro ducers of raw materials and the prices paid out by consumers for finished roods. Mr. Hoover declared.. Railroad rates, like wages, on their present basis, increase this cap. he asserted frivinir the increased "spread" as the explanation of the lost purchasing; power of the farm population, Expressing his belief that an oppor tunity to cut rates would be had in about a year. Mr. Hoover, who was called as a witness by the United btates chamber of commerce, said It would be an "economic crime" if rate schedules were not revised to give basic raw materials much cheaper transportation as compared with fin ished and high-grade materials. Thorae's Views Different. Mr. Hoover's views of railroad credit brought him into sharp conflict with Clifford Thome, counsel for shippers and farm organizations, who demand ed cm cross-examination whether rail road users should be obliged to pay rates baaed "on stock securities Is sued as bonuses with bonds created for promoters" profits" and generally representing; no Investment. I've heard that talk all my life." rejoined the secretary, - "but the com mission Is dealing with the future, not the past. Its rates are based on Its tentative valuations of existing railroad property, not on the mass of paper In the markets which sells for a dollar one day and a hundred the next." Kvldeaee la Submitted. Ftate railroad commissions submit ted their evidence today upon an at tempt to get railroad fares reduced. Clyde M. Heed, chairman of the Kan sas utilities commission, opened the discussion with an argument that the present rate of It cents per mile was economically unjustified and had operated to reduce the incomes of railroads by restricting travel. Fred W. Putnam of the Minnesota commis sion and J. F. Shaughnessy, chairman of the Nevada commission, presented similar views. The Pullman company also appealed to the commission to reduce the sur- wlth their property now as they bad ten years ago. "No, but the ratio of bond Issues is too high for flexibility and financial strength." Mr. Hoover returned. "We would be better off if the bond issues representing debts of the railroads did not exceed 3a per cent of the total capitalisation of the properties." Km tar Aetloa Held lane. "'Do you know how these stock is sues originated, how the stocks were given away as bonus with bond sales and what lack of value they really represented" Mr. Thorns demanded. "I've listened to that all my life," Mr. Hoover retorted. "But ws are here now to consider what we are going to do in the future, not what bas been done in the past, and when you talk of railroad values, there Is noth ing to consider but the tentative es timates that the commission has made upon the actual property. "Do you want the shippers and consumers to pay out the stock value by boosting up the rates V Mr. Thorns asked "It's not the mass of paper that sells on the market all the way from a dollar up that we consider here, Mr. Hoover replied. "My vision 1 entirely that of the tentative value, representing the real value, as found by the commission, but I understand that valuation of the railroads of the United States is greater than the whole amount of paper issued against it." Mr. Hoover Is Challenged. Mr. Thorne challenged Mr. Hoov er's representations of the difficulty railroads have encountered In secur ing new capital and the secretary re plied that "we have a good test of that right here in Washington, where the director-general of railroads ha a large parcel of railroad securities he'd like to sell and hasn't been able to peddle in the last six months, more than enough to get back a sum sum cient to meet the railroad equipment needs in this country for a month." Mr. Thorne likewise questioned Mr. Hoover's .suggestion that less than carload rates be increased if necessary in order that the rates on primary commodities might be lowered, but the secretary Insisted this method would rebound particularly to the benefit of the agricultural commu nity. Transportation earnings, now "perilously close to bond interest," Mr. Hoover said, make It impossible for the commission to give "immedi ate Important rate relief," but he de clared that Improving conditions would allow downward revision dur ing the present year. When such revisions were made, he said, the commission should apply them first to the primary basic com modities agricultural products, coal, metals and timbers even if passen cer rates, class rates and less than carload shipments had to be charged more to protect railroad revenues. This course should be adopted,, he argued, because the series of hori- xontal percentcge increases by which the rates were advanced had dis torted the existing fabric of com merce in the United States, and "was moving Industry as a whole toward its sources of raw materials." Incidentally, rail wages should not be expected to .go back to pre-war levels, he said, but should "follow downward, step by step, the cost of living, snd the rates decreases chould sr be so applied as to maintain railroad revenues, and restore the confidence of investors In ultimate railroad earning power. x, lur HIM II isr We talk glibly of giving billions of credits to foreign countries, to in crease our farm exports," Mr. Hoover said. "I wish to say witn ail re sponsibility for the statement that a I billion dollars spent upon American i E. railways will give more employment to our people, more sdvance to our ndustry, more assistance to our farmers, than twice that sum ex pended outside the frontiers of the United States and there will be greater security for investors." There is danger that In the present period of low earnings and little traffics, the needs of the railroads In new construction, equipment, better- IS ADDED TO STATE PRISON Convicts to Begin Wooden ware Manufacture. DEPENDENTS TO GET CASH Warden Compton Takes First Step to Place Penitentiary on Self Sustaining Basis. SALEM, Or., Feb. 3. (Special.) Establishment of a woodenware plant within the walls of the Oregon state penitentiary as the tirst step in an effort to put the institution on a self-sustaining basis was announced here tonight by U ft Compton, war den of the prison. The first unit of the industrial de velopment of the penitentiary will represent an expenditure of approx imately 17000. This will leave 123.000 of an appropriation of $30 000 author ised at the 1S21 session of the legis lature for additions to the plant and other kindred industries. A. W. McMillen, for many years a practical sawmill operator and wood worker, who until recently was em ployed at the Washington state re formatory at Monroe, will nave cArge of the new plant. The machinery for the industry already has been par chased and it was said tonight that every effort will be made to get the piant in operation within the next few weeks. Buildings now are avail able on the prison grounds to fill the immediate wants. Work for Convicts Aim. "I have been Investigating the question of employment of prisoners and industries at the prison ever'since the appropriation was authorized," Warden Compton said tonight. "It is my purpose to not only make the penitentiary self-sustaining, but to provide suitable labor for as many men as possible. At the same time I desire to give the convicts some op portunity, to earn money in order that they may assist their dependents out side the prison walls. Ttie first equipment will be utilized to manufartura mnn Ha nrllp. u-nnilon litRnnila. rhalra chnnn tahlaa and ' other articles. These will be sold as largely as possible to state institu tions and departments. The original nvestment will give employment to approximately 0 men. Public Bnrden to Be lighter. 'With such a plan in operation the public will be spared the burden of keeping many of these dependents who are now wards of charity, will assist the men in maintaining or re gaining their self-respect, and will also relieve many suffering families who are too proud to divulge their condition to friends. "The men. under the law, also will be entitled to a small share of wages to be saved for them for rehabilita tion as citizens after they leave the prison. "It is our aim to develop, the prison industries in the same manner as any successful private business Is estab lihed. . This will be brought about by careful and conservative manage ment. "We have In mind the installation from time to time of additional In dustries. They will be placed on a similar basis to be developed grad ually and along sensible, sound v and conservative lines." There now are approximately 425 men in the prison. GIFT GRAIN TO BE GROUND RATES ON LOSS REDUCED WASHINGTON CUTS CHARGES 17 U PER CENT. Thousands of Bushels for Near East to Be Turned Into Flour. TACOMA,-Wash, Feb. S. (Special.) Thousands bf bushels of wheat given by farmers of Washington, Idaho and Montana to Armenia and neighboring countries, will be ground into flour at the Tacoma plant of the Sperry Flour Mills company during the next few days, for the near east relief committee. The finished, product is to form an emergency cargo of food, together with cast-off clothes from all over the northwest, which, on February 16, is to be loaded aboard the Ural-ted American line steamer Ohioan, for direct shipment to Batoum, where thousands of lives, chiefly those of helpless women and 'unsheltered or phan children, depend upon its early arrival. J. M. Weatherwax School Wins. ABERDEEN, Wash., Feb. 3. (Spe cial.) The J. M. Weatherwax high school won the January attendance contest of the Aberdeen schools, with an average of 97.94 per cent. It was the first time In several months that the high school won the contest. Total enrollment of the Aberdeen schools for the first semester was 8931 pupils, of which 1471 were boys and 1460 girls. The average daily at tendance during the month for the whole school system was 2618 or 97.19 per cent. The Neushkah rural school, which Is also included in the district, had an average of 99.01. Morton Mirror Changes Hands. ' MORTON. Wash.. Feb. S. (Special.) The Morton Mirror changed pub lishers this week, the incoming pub lisher being R. L. Knapp, formerly of Portland. Immediately and for five years prior to coming to Morton, Mr. Knapp was a linotype operator on the Oregon Journal of Portland. V. H. Honeywell, the retiring publisher, will leave Morton. Companies Expected to Make Al most as Much Under Ruling Be cause of Pay Redactions, OL.YMPIA, Wash- Feb. 3. Reduc tion of approximately 1714 per cent in railroad rates on logs is accomplished by an order issued today by : the de partment of public works to apply on all state traffic, wnich means, it Is said, the saving of half a million dollars annually to log shippers, based on operations of 1920. The department requested the car riers to make a proper revision of the rates in August. 1920, and upon their failure to do so, filed a com plaint against the four principal rail roads a little more than a year ago. Various hearings were held, the last one being in November, 1921, when the railroads agreed to file tariffs which they believe would be Just. The tariffs were filed and immedi ately suspended by the department, It being charged that they were higher than the old rates. ' Under the new rule promulgated today, if any one shipment averages 7000 or more feet a car, the freight is computed on the basis of aptual loading. Formerly the shipper was required to pay on the basis of the minimum load of 7000 feet for every car containing less than that amount The department also recommends that carriers equip a reasonable num ber of cars with steel log bunks and directs that the charges for cars not so equipped shall be 60-cents less. "Even with the .reduction, the car riers should receive a net revenue from log transportation approxi mately equal to that received in the past, ia view of reduction in railway employes' wages, and in other oper ating expenses," said E. U. Kuyken dall, director of public works. CAR LUMBER PURCHASED Union Pacific Places Big Orders With Mills of Tacoma. . TACOMA. Wash.. Feb. 3. (Special.) Tacoma lumber mills are getting a part of the orders for lumber for constructing the 45.000 cars being built for the Union Pacific- system, and northwest mills are being called on for practically all the millions, of feet needed, said A. S. Edmonds, as sistant traffic manager of the Union Pacific at Portland, who, with R. R. Mitchell, assistant traffic manager at Omaha, were visitors in Tacoma yes terday. "Orders for the lumber for the cars are now being placed to go east to Chicago, Mount Vernon and other car-building points," said Mr. Ed monds. "Tacoma is to share In the business and we think It should help. The Pacific Fruit .Express company, one-half owned by the Union Pacific, also is to build 35.000 cars this year and will require more lumber later. "We have found on our trip that freight ia moving better in the east and west, but things still are elow in the middle west, through the corn belt." . t PARENTS, CHILDREN DrE Wreck of Yacht Fatal to August Frojendahl and Family. . SEATTLE, Wash., Feb. 3. August Anderson "Frojendahl, ex-Alaskan capitalist and resident of Seattle, his wife and four children were drowned i when their private yacht, in which they were cruising the bouth seas, was wrecked two months ago, accord ing to advices received by Andrew Chilberg, Swedish vice-consul here today. The message received by Mr. Chil berg gave no details and did not mention the name of the yacht. Mr. Frojendahl made his fortune in the Klondike shortly after he arrived there in the rush of 1898. Before go ing to Alaska he lived here several years. The family also lived for a while In Douglas, Alaska. Mr. Fro jendahl later returned to his former home in Sweden, but was connected with trading ventures on the Pacific I coast for several years. MRS. GARDNER IS BARRED Yakima Refuses to fcet Wife of Mail Robber Talk. YAKIMA, Wash.. Feb. 3. (Special.) Mrs. Roy Gardner, the mail robber's wife billed to appear here Sunday in vaudeville with a talk about her hus band and films depicting his exploits, today was placed under a ban by Mayor Rovig in the interest of publio morals. The prohibition was asked by a delegation from ministers and churchmen, the Y. M. C. A., Y. W. C. A. and Chelminar Grotto, Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, In a series of reso lutions. s H. A. Gillespie, assistant manager of the Yakima Amusement company which brings the vaudeville here, said the company would not fight the city, and would comply with the mayor's order, but voiced a protest. Warning Given Signers. ABERDEEN. Wash., Feb. 3. (Spe cial.) Those who sign Initiative and referendum measures indiscriminately are subject to arrest and prosecution, according to Prosecuting Attorney 'Acret, who has received a message from Secretary of State Hinkle. The law on this point provides that the signer must not only be a registered voter, but must affix precinct num ber and addresses exactly as de scribed. Last year 608 careless sign ers were obliged to explain why they had signed petitions illegally. Two were prosecuted and convicted for violating initiative and referendum law clauses. Mr. Acret said. Debonaire Early Spring atin Hats in a great two-day selling event! $398 Regularly $5, $6.50 and $7.50 It is not very often that one may purchase, for such a tiny sum as $3.98, such smart early spring hats Of. shining satins with gay touches of spring-like flowers, fruit or jaunty quills they will quite transform your appearance. BROWNS NAVY HENNA BLACK For the Home Milliner We are ready now with the largest assortments of buckram frames and straw braids, flowers and ornaments in the city We sell our braid by the yard or piece we cut our silks on the bias Special salespeople will aid you in your selec I - mm mi i m us sn in mil mm i i n i i inn i i n 1 1 1 ..h.iiiii.i.., mwT., in turn iii.ii. ii ii u .m aw i ' '.jMm. uinum-i, m ini.i..iju.'nn.t- ; r .v-fc5f'3 J J. j ! .-5 if V A I : . - . 1 ; ", v7 - , - v it- ' 4t - l '- - - -Wa. A S. 'V -. 1 I. .( " 4 124-128 SIXTH ST. charge on travel in Its cara. eatlmat- lng the dr..p In Its revenues from I menta and maintenance, will be neg- those of 1920 at 11.000,000 per month. Irlers aad Uiifi Compared. Comparing price and wage statis tics of 1S11 with those of today. Mr. Hoover said there was demonstration of great Inequality in their degree of Increase, a great Increase in spread between producer and consumer." and a "lag in wage scales." which do not follow commodity prices down with regularity. The general result, he said, had reduced the buying power of half the population that engaged in raw-maceriai proauctlon "to less than TO per cent of pre-war and is the consequent cause of a large part of the Industrial and commercial un employment ana stagnation in our cities and our transportation." Unless we. can secure their nearer proximity." Mr. Hoover said, referring to the "spread" between consumer's prices and producers' prices, "we will retard a return of employment and prosperity. Jtaising agricultural price levels by government subsidiary, of otherwise." he added, would not cure the difficulty, since tne real evil lay In the "spread" where transportation costs, distributors, profits, taxes and many other charges accumulated, which ought to be attacked. Reaejnataaemt Held XeedeaL "It ia a certainty that In order to decrease the spread," he said, "rail way rates must come down, and for rates to come down, costs of railway operation in wages and costs of sup ply must be reduced. I'ntil this ad justment is secured the economical machine will continue to move slowly. ... there are permanent charges in this spread, such as taxes, which will hold the cost of living above pre-war levels." Increases In rail rates since 1914. he estimated, "have added probably less than 1 per cent to the price of cotton goods oa the average haul, but has added probably CO per cent to the price of coal, while the Increased rates since 114 have added nearly 100 per cent to the cost of assembling ma terials for pis Iron. Some increases In rates had come out rf the pro- I cucer. as In the case of farm commo dities sold at world wholesale prices while ethers were pa!d by the con sumer, as oa manufactured articles, lavesllsatloa Is t arraated. "Even If the commission at th present moment cannot justifiably reduce railway Incomes a single dol lar." he said, "it Is warranted In In vestigating the possibility of some relief for the more distressed com modities by a revision of some rates upward ... It would be an eco nomical crime to apply relief to horl sontal reductions in all rates, thus givicr relief to higher-priced goods, and travel, when the vital mainspring ef our economical life, our agricul tural, fuel and metals are chocked. 'I recCaTixe that the uncertainly and slow reduction of rates In this fashion will Itself delay business re covery because of the uncertainty of business as to Its future costs. If our railways were in a position to stand the temporary shock. 11 would be in tinitely better to drop the rates on primary commodities tomorrow. But we can not ask the impossible." Ferela-w Railroads Warn Off. Notwithstanding preaen difficul ties. Mr. Hoover said. American rail ways are in better condition than carriers of other countries, are better run than the publicly owned lines elsewhere. t'itfford Thome, for shippers and agricultural organisations took up Mr. Hoover's statement on cross-ex-1 amination asking him first if lie I thought railroads had a great pro- I portion of bond issues as compared I lected. Mr. Hoover added, with re sulting breakdown of transportation when a full load Is put upon them by Industrial resumption. This should be averted, even by the exten sion of government indorsement of railroad securities, whose sale would give bonds for expenditure on equip ment. ' The commission's efforts should be devoted, he said, to a policy of "maintaining public control of monopoly, and at the same time maintaining private Initiative." CLAM PACKING TO BEGIN 1500 Men and Women to Be Em ployed on Beach and In Plants. ABERDEEN, Wash, Feb. S. (Spe cial.) (jrays Harbor clam canneries will begin packing during the first w-ec-k In March, with approximately 1SU0 men and women employed oa the beach and in the packing plants. All the beaches from Moplips to West port will be worked by diggers from March 1. the beginning of the season, to May 31. its close. No price agree-1 ment has been completed yet be tween the diggers and packers. In addition to the established pack ing companies, two new outfits will be in the field this year. They are the strand r lsneries and the Ueep Sea Food Packing company. Logging Campa to Open. CEXTRALIA. Wash.. Feb. S. (Espe cial.) The Western Lumber company is preparing to open a logging camp alongside the Northern Pacific rail way two miles from Pe Ell. Construc tion of the necessary buildings for the camp will be started at once. The Yeomans Lumber company of Pe Kll is taking up Its old logging road along Stone creek preparatory to ex tending its system up the Chehalls river to tap more distant timber holdings. No soltd fuel equals dlefsen's coal In heat, lastinp. price Adv. INTENSE ITCHING burning On Neck, Chest, Arms and Shoul ders. In Blisters. Cuticura Heals. "Eczema broke out In small, red spots around my neck and quickly Dread to my cheat, arms and across my shoulders. The itch ins; and burning wia intense, and when I scratched or rubbed k, small, white blisters formed. "I waa treated but got no relief, r sent for a free sample of Cuticura Soap and Ointment. Seeing they were helping me I purchased more, and now I am completely healed." (Signed) Mrs. John Tim brooks, Rt. 3, Romeo, Michigan. Cuticura Soap dally, with Cuticura Ointment occasionally .prevents pim ples or other eruptions. 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