6 THE 3IOKXIXG OKEGONIAN, FRIDAY, JANUARY 20. 1922 dance mm IS CALLED COWARD School Director Resents Dodging of Question. DR. WILSON KEEPS SILENT Tciiiporance l.eader Refuses to Give Data Requested by .Mr. 'Woodward. (Continued From Firm Par ) we regard as a menace, and you have tried to put ua on trial." IVcw Srasatloa Bp rung. Another sensational feature of the more than two hours of heated de bate came when Dr. Guy Fitch Phelps, pastor of Bellwood Methodist church, following a question asked of L. D. .Mahone, a Methodist layman, ."Is there one girl of 12 years or under in any public home here whom you an produce who traces her downfall directly to a school dance?" Leaping to his feet. Dr. Phelps shouted to the members of the board: If you wasit us to present to the board a 12-year-old girl who has been ruined in a Portland public school dance and who Is now In a home here we will accept the contract. Will you abolish school dances when we do it?" Frank L. Shull rose to his feet and signified his Intention of saying something, but the uproar was so great that, for a time, the gavel, wielded vigorously by Chairman New-Ill, failed to restore quiet and Mr. Shull sat down. However, various members of the hoard later said that I' the charges preferred by the min isters and laymen are proved they vi ill act to protect tha morals of the students. Proof la Requested. At the close of the meeting; Chair man Newill announced that the board will expect the proof of charges laid formally before the directors to be filed by next Thursday night, Riving one week for the dance opponents tc prepare thet data and affidavits, which, according to Dr. Wilson and Mr. Mahone, they will do. A great crowd of men and women Intermingled with boys of high school go, was on hand eanly and when Chairman XewL'jl oalM the meeting to ordr o.t 7:45 o'clock scarcely a iet wa vaoajit amd In a. few minutes noine was. From the outswt, the wi'Lu a.tkn was tmse. Seated In groups, the aillw-po.nts' of the public school d.-inoe and Its opponents awaited de ve.topmeini'.js with an trnteirest ldom sefcn st a mass meeting. After laying down the rults of the board, which prohiibHwd any extrsui ous subeots from being brought Into the memUng, Che.irmam Newill eaLle-d twr the flrat pMkr lor the ministers amd laymen opposed to the ia.nces, ayimg they would receive on hour In which to present theiir cai&e. lr. Clvarlus W. McCaughey, naator of Cc.ratnary-Wlilbur Muthodlst church, took the ila.tform and outlined the attitude of the Methodist Kpiscopal church, which, he said, was largely that of others of the opponents of thw dwnoea. Attack la Dfnlnl. Dr. McCaughey briefly explained tlfat the ministers and laymen in mak ing the charges were not Intentionally Attacking the Parent-Teacher asso ciations. They had learned, he said, h rr all the high schools In the I city but one is supervised as to its dances by the Parent-Teacher circle and that of some 80 grammar schools, there were circles in but 40. lie de nied having any fight with the-circles as such and proceeded to state the case from the viewpoint of the op ponents. "Our attitude," he said, "Is that, in permitting these school dances, this lioard la undoing what we are en deavoring to teach In our homes and churches. We are protesting against the use of public school property for a purpose which we believe subverts the purpose for which our churches atand. To teach our children it is wrong to dance and then be com pelled to see them brought Into an environment in our public schools which undoes what we are endeavor ing to do ia objectionable to a large number of people. In a sense, our young people are compelled to go to these dances. HUara (Jreet1 Statement. Derisive demonstration, with hisses, rreeted this statement before It was finished, and Dr. McCaughey appealed to the board for order, which was quickly restored. "By reason of the environment, by means of the influences which sur round pupils, as you all know, we find this works a great hardship upon the children whose parents are trying to teach them right llviing, according to the standard believed by them to lie of greatest moral force.-' Dr. Mc .Caughey continued. "We have heard a great deal about these dances being chaperoned, but supposing they are what kind of an Institution is It that requires so many chaperons? What are we building up In our midst and what are going to be the conse quences? Mrs. Hill of the parent teacher circles said last night that our amusements have nothing to do with our religion, but we assert this to be a grave mistake, and we are going to enforce our convictions in this regard if possible; if not with this board's consent, we are prepared to go further, but hope It will be un necessary." Pointed Questions Asked. Asked pointed questions as to his personal knowledge of alleged im moral conduct or Immorality resulting from school dances. Dr. McCaughey defied the board. Directors Shull and Woodward had sought to draw from him definite Information, such as names, dates, and places. "We are presenting our case to this board in our own way." said Dr. Mc Caughey. "and, personally I will say that I come here representing a po sition of some importance In this city and that I do not intend to be told what to do or what 1 shall say. This board will have all the facts In our possession at the right time, but we are not going to divulge names before this large crowd. We are In this fight and are determined to stand by until we go to court of last resort If necessary." Dr. Wilson had arrived meanwhile, and when he mounted the platform to read the charges- which had been re quested by the board to be presented in writing, every eye was centered upon him. As ha read, applause or jeers, as his words appealed to the two factions, were frequently heard, despite the chairman's cries for order. In his sutement. Dr. Wilson read that no metliigs of a nature to sftJr up a contpoveire-y, eiuch as religious or political ones, were permitted In the publio schools and said tha In a city wlK-re a board of education was so scrupulously careful about such fea tures, including the exclusion of the ftudy of the Kit'., "th claMic of the aicos." be "should think It might be held admissible thait th-eiro is some- th:g wrong w hen a laxge seotdon. at least, of tha public patron of the schools, submit such resolutions It was explained by Directions Clark ajid Woodward that K has) boem the policy of the board for a long time to permit anything to be held in tha sohool buildkiga tha.t ia of a nature snich as Dr. WUaon memticcsd. Dr. Wilson said that he "guessed the change had come, since his former activities In Portland," as. he said, he had "always been compelled to hold meetings on the outside, even a purity meeting." Mr. Mahone Gives Views. Mr. Mahone was the next speaker. He submitted an affidavit on 117 Second. cases of delinquency of young girls people, the mentors of nearly all the In their belief that danelnr U a contrib utory agency toward immoraUty. that needs to be supervised with the create" scrutiny even among adults: but when Indulged In br the very young it Is sea stimulus that comes before there has been any fixing of convictions, establish ment of Ideals, durability of character or mental and .moral control of ?x propensi ties. As Dr. William A. McKeever, the world authority on the subjects, says "Younr lo-ve&r-old atriDllncs are forced by the dance Into an Intense sexual development Instead of experiencing the normal slowly awakening sex conscious ness." The Introduction of dancing In our schools brings all this abnormal strain upon the very young who would not be induced so early in life to participate In tms mod of tbing. Innr 1 n ar Ranfnl ta Vnnt H- a vast majority of Christian who, he said, are in public homes in Portland and vicinity, perhaps 60 per cent or whom had started their down ward careers at dances. School dances, in Portland? Inter rupted Air. Woodward. "Part of them," replied Mr. Mahone. "What part?" ' insisted Mr. Wood ward. "I cannot state that just now, was the reply, "for I ha.ve not sufficient data to justify & definite reply, but some of these girls traced their ruin to dances In Portland schools. Chairman Newill Interjected an in terrogation as to the proportion of these girls who had been in school dances, with the same result, and It was agreed that Mr. Manors will in clude in the affidavits to bs submit ted to the board within the week one on this subject. Sex Influence Discussed. . Mr. Mahone then discussed, In de tail the influence of dancing- upon the sexes and read authorities showing; the dance contact to be banefuL He submitted a list of textbooks on this subject for(the directors to study in arriving- at their verdict, declared It is "costing $1,000,000 a year in Ore Ron to Administer to the unfortunates who are polluted by the dance, and asserted that it should be the duty of all to furnish constructive sports, preferably In the open, such as foot ball, baseball and other forms of ath letics, and said that the Methodist church has three great community enterprises on foot in Portland now to that end. Asked by Mr. Woodward to name any high school dance he had ever attended or heard positive informa tion of where there was immorality, he named one he said he visited at the Hotel Portland some time ago while he was waiting for another appointment. It was disgraceful," he declared. "But It was not a high school dance," retorted Mr. Woodward. "It certainly wa, for I aw boys I knew from Jeffeirsoin high sohooU' Mr. Mahone replied. School I)anr Defined. Mr. Woodward later a-ro&e uil aaked those pres-en to keep fully Ln mind that any dance held outside of a school building Is not a sohool dance, ! any stRse of the word," and City Supseirintft-aidenat Grout read the rule adopted by the boa.rd in 1920, calling for supeirvisK! at these detinues. "You are indicting school children, Mr. Ma-hoine," aod-d Mr. Woodward, "a.nd you should be careful wlutt you charge." "The dance Mr. Mahone saw at (the Portland hoted has nothing to do with this boaird, for it waa next a school dainco," said Chaiirman NewiU. "It has someit'hiLng to do wlfh the sohool da-nce," a hot back Mr. IS La hone, "for it shows tha.t childine-n aire scent ing In at these deunceo and from them go from place to place and aire in grave peril," Whem further pressed to duscle how many girls aire in pub-Lie homes here beoa use of sc hool dan ceo, Mr. Mahone said he would submit da-ta. Statement In Cheered. You stated last night there are 400 such girls." commented Mr. Woodward. "Not as a result, though, of school dances entirely," said Mr. Mahone. "Well, is there one girl?" asked Mr. Thomas "If there is one girl of 12 years or younger, as you have charged, it would mean, so far as I am concerned, that, even though I stood alone, I would vote to abolish the school dances." Applause greeted this statement, both sides joictng in. It was regarding this statement that Dr. Phelps, next to speak, hurled j his challenge at the board. "The dance is a dance, anywhere," said Dr. Phelps, 'and if it will defile people In one ballroom it will defile them in another, and it would defile them ln this auditorium. Every kind of a dance ruins someone. mnn Greet Remark. Hisses greeted this remark, and Dr. Phelps, standing even more erect than before, faced his audience, leveled a finger at te direction from whence came the hisses and saidi: "There are but two kinds of beings who hiss " "Bang!" went th travel and Dr. Phelps df not conclude his sentence. Instead, he dwelt upon the inluence cf the dsince, excoriating it and the music that goes with it. He deplored anything, he said, which had to hare chaperones, and concluded by saying: "I believe the gentlemen of this board are confronted with a grave, secret, subtle conspiracy to bring our public school system into disrepute and to ruin it." Xr. W. B. Hinson. pastor of the East Side Baptist church, explained a resolution adopted by his church last Sunday riitrht. asking prohibition of school dances, and cited instances coming to his personal knowledge where the school dance had not been the right kind. Dancing; It Defended. "As a preacher, I do not believe that dancing ever made anyone better or helped anything," paid Dr. Hinson. "As a father. I do not like it to be taught in schools where my children must go, and as a Baptist, I must be against It, for was it not a dancer who brought about the beheading of John the Bap tist?" - Irving Brown of Frankl.n high school: Deans of Women Wilson of Franklin, Skinner of Jefferson, Gra ham of the Girls' Polytechnic: Hugh J. Boyd, principal of Washington high school; Miss Armitage, a teacher in Washington hlffh; Robert Mautz, for four years a student at Washington; Mrs. George G. Root of Franklin parent-teacher circle, and others defended the dances, saying they were familiar with them and that they are no', im moral. Director Clark, referring to a state ment that "no dance ever did any good." mentioned the one at the mu nicipal auditorium the previous ever nlng, when $5000 wa3 obtained for the unemployed. Authority I Aaked. "What's your authority?" queried some one from the opposite side. "The Tillamook school board." was the reply, which brought forth ap plause. Mrs. Mary Mallett. representing the Women's Christian Temperance union, took the platform against the dance. Others who defended the dance were Mrs. W. H. Bathgate, president of the P-f tland Parent - Teacher council; Mrs. J. F. Hill, Executive Secretary Henderson of Community Service; H. M. Grant, executive secretary of the Oregon Social Hygiene society, speaking only for himself; and Mrs E. W. Charles, vice-president of the State Parent-Teacher association. The written charges filed with the board last night were as follows: To the honorable members of the school board. Portland, Or. t We, your petition, dffllre to set forth before you our objections to the Intro duction or the continuance of the danco as a public Institution Into th school buildings uniT your control. First, all social workers, reformers, and relitfloua directors have become unit evangelical churches, have convictions upon the matter that cause tbem to seek to regulate the conduct of their young people. Their Ideal seems to be to keep the very young from participating in the social dance until they reach an age of accountability and solidity of character wnen tney are adequately equip pea judge and decide for themselves. But the introduction of dancing into the grammar school grades has brought the age down irom the high teens to below ten, ana it is significant that Just in proportion that the city gives itself to this erroneous mode of education, delinquency among girls drops, as it has done in Portland, from 17 years to frequent cases of 10 to 13 years. Statistics carefully gathered by the Woman's Protective association, an official branch of our polios service, attributes WO per cent of the delinquency among tha fallen women and girls to early dancing; and the consultation with the 11 women specializing ln this department gives us this consensus of opinion, namely, that they think the dance is the greatest menace to the girls of our city of any con tributory cause of delinquency. Tha dance of taa school projects the child who would escape this dangerous experiment, into tha midst of It years before It would come normally. Church Should Not IHctate. Third. Our public schools are maintained by the process of taking all, and there is a law of compulsory education enforced among all families. We do not believe that the church should dictate to the state or the school concerning the process of secular education: nor la there any ef fort to da ao. But we cannot consider that the public school should be so conducted as to break down the morals the Chris-1 tian parents seek to maintain in their : home life, nor to make teachers who are opposed to dancing participate ln any re sponsibility for it. nor to embarrass tha children who come from homes that have these ideals and must secure their educa tlon in our public schools. The testimony that we secure concerning this matter Is that children of the homes who do not believe ln dancing have been embarrassed throughout their entire four years' course in our high schools and have been prac tically ostracized from the social life there- I of, and are now. We protest to you that j this is an unfair use of our school system if it can be prevented, and there are many cities that do not permit dancing and 1 therefore it is not necessary to thus subject parents, teachers and scholars to this un fair treatment. We believe our public schools ought to aid the parents in moral restraints and ln establishing moral ldeals. We find maiy people who are not opposed to dancing but who still think that it Is a sex stimulant that ought not be brought on too soon. Parent-Teacher Body Landed. Four. We are not unmindful of the great and multifarious activities of the Parent-Teacher association. We will de light to co-operate with them in every known way and develop additional ways. but we call your attention to the it.ct that the president of this organisation an nounced that they had only supervised dancing ln one of our many high school This leaves sixth-sevenths of them with out any claim to this kind of supervision and the provision of section of the or dinance on dancing forbids any supervi sion of school dances by the Woman's Pro tective association, and' this leaves the high schools and many of the grammar schools without any adequate supervision except a voluntary group of patronesses, many of whom do not come. We know of one case where officers were sent for to bring order out of chaos in a grammar grade school where the principal had ap peared for the first time since October 1, and found such a condition of things that he called for the assistance of officers. All the facts of this particular case are available to any member of this school board as they were to ua in short, there la no supervision of many of the school dances because the dance Inspector Is for bidden to be allowed to Interfere in a chool. and the Parent-Teacher organisa tion bas not yet covered the majority of the schools of our city. We have found another pi ivislon of the law that Insisted that couples should not be permitted to run In aJ out of dances without paying a second admission at the door, but when officers of our cit saw the couples disap pearing and scattering to the various parts of the building, sometimes staying an hour, and those who were supervising ths dance were asked why they permitted this in violation of the known provisions, tha answer was, "We never saw the purpose of that provision in our ordinance." The department that Mrs. Baldwin superin tends has reported to our city the super- viiinn nf ai.lS different dances In one school year, but these officers are kept out of all the school life by the ordinance, and the other organisations reported to you. "We only supervised dancing in one high school." Young Children Are Lured. We beg you to consider not so much the abnormal, occasional and shocking things which have occurred, a record of which we easily find, and that you ran just as eailly discover, but the fact that the. so called clean and well-sponsored dance In the grade schools is Introducing young and immature children to temptations and stimulations that they should know noth ing of until they are well through the! adolescent period. We beg you to con sider whether there is not enough legiti mate uses for our public school buildings In the promotion of education without : making them the centers of temptation 1 and abnormal stimulations of what evl-. dently needs no extra stimulant in our city. And whether a school system that is so careful not to take sides on matters of prejudice that Its buildings cannot be used for religious purposes nor the Bible read in the school, whose auditorium even in refused to political messages of reform ers who wish to promote purity of life, temperance. Sabbath observance and other matters that may be controverted, should be thrown wide open to dancing that finds mora conscientious objectors to it and gives moral offense to more people than would be offended if the buildings were used for all these other purposes. If it may be said, "Shall we close up the cleanest dances and leav-s those in vicious places ?" we would say that the cleanest dances are the ones that are starting our boys and girls who would have no temptation from the more vicious resorts. TREATY M NAVIES KEARLY IfJ SHAPE Only One Article Left to Be Overhauled. EARLY SESSION IS HOPE PALMIST, PARTNER HELD Katlierlne Franklin, 30, and Part ner Are Arrested. Katherlns Franklin, 30, palmist, and her partner, Mrs. Elizabeth Moore, last night were arrested by Patrolmen Kelly and Pierre. Pierre swore to a warrant charging- one woman with ob taining money by means of palmistry and tha latter with obtaining money by means of card reading-. Tha women were arrested at 220 OoodnouKh building; and later re leased on their own recognisance. They are to appear before Judge Ross- man this morning-. When Problem of Fortifications ln Pacific Will Be Solved Ia Still Uncertain. WASHINGTON, D. C, Jan. 19. (By the Associated Press.) The five. power treaty for limitation of naval armament has undergone further changes in the course of a final over hauling by experts and it now is com mote except for the article estaon&n lng fortifications status quo ln tha Pacific. When the fortifications problem will be solved was regarded by some delegates as dubious, but in soma quarters there still was hope that plenary session to announce publicly the conclusion of the treaty may bs held early next week. Some delegations have proposed that the troublesome article be dropped 'from the Itreaty altogether and be attached to the four-power Pacific treaty, already signed, or em bodied in a separata convention, ta be drawn later. Plans Are Not Changed. Conference leaders, however, were going ahead on the assumption that the provision would remain in the naval pact. 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