c THE 920RXINO OREGOXIAN. WEDNESDAY. ' XOVE3IBER 1C, 10-1 FIVE WOMEN PASSED ON ARBUGKLE JURY , All of 11 Talesmen, However, Are Temporary. INTEREST IN CASE LAGS Vacant Scats in Courtroom Cu rlosity of Spectators Sharpened .. by Clashes of Counsel. SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 13. The end of the second day in the manslaughter trial of Koscoe C. ("Fatty ') Arbuckle, eaw 11 temporary jurors in the box and the general interest in the Jury election dwindling:. Five of those selected were women There was nothing- in the sessions to srive them more Interest than the ordinary criminal action, although the frequent clashes of opposing; counsel occasioned mirth or sharpened curi osity on the part of the spectators and court officers at times. The questions did not differ' ma terially from those asked at the opening- of the trial yesterday. Stress was laid by the defense today on the in terest of the defendant in the motion picture Industry. Gavin McNab chief defense counsel, asked the talesmen If such interest would prejudice them In any way. They answered that It would not. Arhnrkle 1 Dejected. Arbuckie's attitude was of such fleep apparent dejection that he re mained almost aloof. He did not con sult with counsel and at the recess periods remained by himself. There were vacant seats In the courtroom throughout the day, al though the crowd In front of the building to see the principals go to and fro was larger than yesterday. Many of the npectators in court were talesmen who have not been called to the box. McN'sJb said that there was a possi bility of the jury being finally se lected by tomorrow night. The activities of tho women's vigi lant committee, a moral uplift organ ization, in watching the case and sending representatives to, the court room, figured largely In the jury Questioning today as It did yesterday. The medical testimony to be Intro duced was also referred to. The talosmen were aHked by the defense If such testimony might be connected by them in any way with any possible moral lapse on the part-of Miss Vlr 4aVnia Rappe, In connection with whose death Arbuckle is being tried. They answered that they would be guided solely by the evidence. Women All Horfaewlvee. Indicated transgressions of the pro hibition law by Arbuckle and Miss Itappe would have no effect on the talesmen, they answered. They also said that the detention of witnesses by the district attorney would not prejudice them either against the prosecution or the witnesses involved. The women in the box are all housewives and some of them have children who tthey said enjoyed the Arbuckle motion pictures. Some of the prospective Jurors made like ad mission "but most of them said they were Indifferent in this regard. The women are Mrs. Anna Butler, Mrs. Helen M. Hubbard, Mrs. Kitty U Macdonald, Mrs. 1 F. Sanden and ilrs. Kdith Unsworth. NATIONAL GRANGE HEAD AND EXECUTIVE OFFICERS WHO WILL DIRECT FIFTY-FIFTH ANNUAL SESSION IN PORTLAND. .... .i i .11. i i .i i i . u ill -v.- : :'-':-?---vr" f"' " 11 "" " ' lL 11 mmrmmwmmm .o ' h '- ' ' r i ZZ Q O ft' SI ' r ;:.) ' . n I j 1 1 i f . If Ail.-1 1 1 '.l...n,iiiw l).. '..I. GRANGERS HE GREETED --. . .--iLJIr iwibas) aTiii ftft iwi NATIONAL SPECIAIi ARRIVKS AVITH EASTERN PARTY. is flowing through the recently com pleted diversion tunnel, and the cof ferdam will retain it In that course even during high water. Pleasure Trips and Ceremonials Will Be Leading Feature of , Portland Convention. 'Continued TYnm Firct fneej state membership of 30,000, probably will win the vote of the grange. Election of national officers, In cluding all executive positions and one place on the executive committee, will be held next Tuesday. ACTIVITY NOTED IX COLUMBIA RIVER DISTRICT. News Letter Issued by Loyal Le gion of Loggers and Lumbermen ' Shows Improvement. Lumber cargo business in the Co lumbia river district Is good and the ports of Portland and Astoria are shipping lumber to the orient, Aus tralia and the Atlantic seaboard, ac cording to the news letter issued yes terday by the Loyal Legion of Loggers and Lumbermen. The letter also an nounced that rail shipments of uppers were above normal. In the logging operations In the Co lumbia river dtstrict the letter de clared that stocks are low, with Indi cations for all-winter operation of camps located below the snow level. Jt is said that about 9000 loggers now are employed In that district alone and that there Is a shortage of experienced fallera and tuckers. Common labor was said to be plentiful. Of the 32 big sawmills In the Co lumbia river and Portland district 26 are operating to full eight-hour ca pacity. Regarding Willamette valley op erations the letter said: "Improvement la noted. A number of plants that have been closed the greater part of the year are getting ready to reopen. "There is practically no unemploy ment in the valley for men willing to work and there are plenty of men tor all jobs open." SUIT HELD MISDIRECTED A-1 Auto Works Blamed for Mis representation Charged. Though suit for recovery of ap proximately fHOO has been fl'ed In the circuit court against Horace and Sam Armlshaw because of misrepre sentations in an automobile trade the fraudulent representations if any there were, were not mads by the Armlshaw brothers nut by the Al Auto Works Warehouse company, their agents in the transaction, ex plained Attorney Heckbert yesterday. B. J. Howland, plaln'.ltf In the ac tion, claimed that he had been vic timised in a trade In that a 1918 model automobile which had been run about 40,000 miles had been palmed off on him as a 1921 model which had not gone more than ftOOO miles. At torney Heckbert asserted that the auto works were the agents of Arml shaw brothers, and though the latter may be legally liable for damages, they had no personal knowledge of the transaction on which the suit Is based. High School Jinks Success. WTSSA, Or.. Nov. 15. (Special) The high school pinks, which was staged at the Nyssa high school build ing Saturday, November E, under the supervision of the high school stu dents, was a success. The proceeds were about 370, which will be used towards high school athletics. Clocks and watches of high degree can now be had for very nearly half price In the Friedlander company's great holiday sale. Adv. Vera Gordon (h;iscU)Orpheum. Ad. Yakima Grange to Eight. YAKIMA. Wash.. Nov. 15. Twenty- four Yakima members of the state grange; including masters or ail Pomona and subordinate granges In the Yakima valley, left today by spe cial car for Portland to attend the national grange convention and carry on their fignt againsi reinstatement of William Bouck as master of the tate grange. The Yakima delega tion announced that It had obtained headquarters in the Multnomah hotel. Centralla Sends Delegates. CKNTRALIA. Waeh., Novl 15. (Spe cial.) The three Centralla granges wilt be represented at the national grange convention, which opens in E'ortland tomorrow. The local dele gates, who left for Portland today, are Mr. and Mrs. John Harvey and Tilly Nelson, Fords Prairie; Mr. and Mrs. Bert Foglcson, Lincoln Creek, and Mrs. S. L. Uroshong, Waunchs Prairie. National Grange Delegates Are Veterans in Order. State Mnatera Have Service to Their Record Credit. of THE National " grange delegates, carrying with them the open hearted frankness of the American farmer which seems the same from Maine on west to Oregon, have come to see Portland and Oregon. All were prepared for Oregon yesterday, for rubbers and umbrellas came out from the top layer of the trunks. Some who had come from homes where snow is already on the ground could hardly 'believe that they were In a country of the same latitude, or even farther north than their own where roses bloomed and berries were In their second crop. Probably no national convention ever assembled where men make up at least one-half of the membership has a record such as that made on the special train which carried most of the delegates. There was only one man on the train that smoked and the porters who have ways and means of winking at the 18th amendment found it a dull and listless trip. Portland again in 1925 was a fre quent expression among those who have come for the session. "We surely will come again If we like It this time," was another com ment passed about. B. 3. Lowell, national master, has a record of 21 years in the grange. He joined in New York state in 1900 and worked up through the state and national offices until his election as national master two years ago. He was elected master of his local grange in 1905 and In 1909 became Pomona grange master. The next year he was elected assistant steward of the New York state grange. From 1915 till 1919 he was master of the New York state grange, over a mem bership of 130,000. Snow lay on the ground in Neenah, Wis., when Mr. and Mrs. Herman Ihde and daughter left to join the grange special. Mr. Ihde, master of the Wisconsin state grange. Is on his first visit here and declares Oregon to be a garden spot. He is serving his second year as state master, and as such is official delegate to' the national meeting. "Missouri will send plenty of peo ple to the 1925 fair if conditions brighten up a bit,' said C. O. Ratne of Hayti. Mo., state grange master and official delegate with Mrs. Kalne. Mr. Raine has held his present office for IS years and Is on his second trip to Portland. He beara the record of being one of the oldest state grange masters from point of continuous service. Mrs. Raine Is Flora, one of the national grange officers. Their state In the 70s, when the grange first began to sweep westward, was one of the strongest in the union In point of membership. At present it has a smaller membership, but this ia growing rapidly. In contrast with almost every del egate, A. B. Judson of Balfour, la.. Is traveling alone, for he has no wife to bring and no other grangers are coming west from that state. Mr. Judson has been state master for 22 yearn continuously, except for a break of two years, and has been a granger Vpper, front row, left to rlgrht C. M. Freeman, Ttppeeanoe City, O., aecretaryl Mm. Pauline S. II a inc. Hard, Mo., Klorai I.. II. Wright. Indianapolis, Ind trrnNurrri W. J. Thompson, South C'hlnai Me chairman executive com mittee! Leslie R, Smith, Hadley, Minn, secretary executive committee Mr. Kdna B. Ixber, llarnravllle, 0 lady snslataat steward. .Hack row, left to right C M. Gardner, Springfield. MiuH editor IVailonal Onnice Dlonthlrt U. L. Martin, Plalnflrld, Vt., aaalntant steward E. Needham, Lane, Kan overscrri N. J. Lowell, Frcdonla. IV'. raanleri T. C. Atkraon, Buffalo, V, V executive commltteei Clark Bumgarner, Fife, Mont steward. Lower S. J. Lowell, Frcdonla, Si. master of national grange lnce November, 1V19. for 40 years. Ha is making- his first visit to Portland. . B. Needham of Lane, Kan,, is wear ing the sunflower 1922 badge, which is the official call for the national grange session next year. Mr. and Mrs. Needham and Theodore Lutze are the only Kansans present, but another group Is expected to help work for the next session. Mr. Needham has been master of the Kansas state grange for five years and a member for 12 years. He Is representing a membership of 30,000. . II. K. Williams of Trout. W. Va.. Is one of the youngest grange masters present. Ho represents a member ship of 3000. Mr. and Mrs. E. A- Eckcrt of Mas coutah. 111., were not frightened by, the rain which greeted them here, for theyxame prepared with rubbers and brought an umbrella to go with them. Mr. Kckert has been state master of Illinois for the last two years over a state membership, of 5000. The. little state of Delaware. !s a strong grange state and has farming interests centered largely in vegetable growing, fruit and melon raising, but can produce anything but citrus fruits, declares J. R. Rossa of Milford, Del. Mr. Rossa has a record of 25 years in the grange and Is serving his third' year as master. His state has a membership of 2000 in the order. DEATH PUZZLES JURORS SCEE OP HUXTIXG TRAGEDY . IS TO BE VISITED. TIMBER RIGHTS AT, ISSUE State Gives Title to Property Own ers Along Loop Highway. HOOD RIVER. Or.. Nov. 15. (Spe cial.) The construction of the valley trunk line of the Mount Hood loop highway here, the new grade utilising a now right of way for a greater por tion of the 21-mlle distance, has raised the' question of ownership of timber along the right of way. The state highway department, follow'ng legal advice, has announced that the timber is the property of the abutting property owners. Timber owners, however, have been warned that they must cut the wood prior to grading the road or make ar rangements with contractors for sal vaging it. The contractors, it is stated, are required to burn and destroy all timber not reiBoved when their oper ations begin. Normal Alnmnl Meet. CENTRAL! A. Tash., Nov. 15. (Spe cial.) Miss Etna Keithahn, Miss Bes sie Anderson, Miss Florence Drewey, Miss Haysel Johnson and Miss Ellen McClahahan, Centralla teachers, Sat urday went to Olympia to attend the first meeting of the association re cently formed by ex-students of the Ellensburg normal sch-ool, now teach ing In southwestern Washington, A banquet and sight-seeing trip, for which the Olympia chamber of com merce was Nhost, were entertainment features. The next meeting of the association will be held In Centralis in April. Prayers for Peace Asked. OLTMPIA. Wash.. Nov. 15. A Thanksgiving day proclamation call ing upon citixens of Washington to direct their prayers toward the ac complishment of an everlasting peace was Issued today by Governor Hart. VERA OoRDON(herself)Orpheum. Ad. Do you know how the houses are numbered in Portland? Do you know how to freach a given point what car to take which way to turn? Plttmon's Official Guide tells von All that iinil mnr-j! At all news stands and book stores. wmm mm Coroner'B Inquest Over Body of Hoy Ward Develops Tangle Regarding Accident. TILLAMOOK, Or., Nov. 15. (Spe cial.) The coroner's Jury that Inves tigated the death of Roy Ward, who was killed while hunting with Walter Winters, at Slab creek, at noon Sun day, after hearing the testimony yes terday, decided that it was necessary to view the scene of the shooting be fore giving a verdict. Winters says that after he had shot Ward in the stomach he remained with him three minutes before he went for a doctor, and when the party returned Ward was 75 yards or more from the place . he was first shot, where he was found dead with a wound in his head, supposed to have been inflicted by himself when he was Buffering from the effects of the first wounding. The doctors are of the opinion that Ward could not have lived longer than ten minutes after the first shooting, for the shot tore through the vital parts of the stomach. Cofferdam Being Built. YAKIMA. Wash., Nov. 15. (Spe cial.) Under direction of Engineer Crowe, a 15-foot cofferdam- is being built at Rimrock to guard against overflow of the Tieton river through melting snows, and consequent deiay in construction of the corewall f the Rimrock storage dam. The river now TRAFFIC LAW DEBATE UP Northwest Officials to Meet In Portland Friday. OLYMPIA, Wash., Nov. 16. Uniform regulations for mechanical signal de vices on motor vehicles will be up for discussion at a meeting of represent atives of the motor vehicle depart ments of Oregon, Idaho Utah and Washington, scheduled to be held in Portland Friday, according to Fred J. Dibble, director of licenses, here. "The motor vehicle laws of each of these states require mechanical de vices that have been approved by the several departments to be used on any motor vehicles where hand and arm signals cannot be seen from the rear," said Mr. Dibble. "It is the intention Of the meeting to obtain, if possible, the approval in all four states of signal devices In ordr that the mo torist who purchases a device valid In his own state may find it a legal pro tection when he tours in other states." L0GGED-0FF LAND TOPIC Conference Called at Seattle for Discussion of Problem. OLYMPIA, Wash.. Nov. 15. To de termine the practicability of settle ment of logged-off lands in the state, D. A. Scott, director of conservation and development, today called a con ference of interested citizens to be held in Seattle Friday morning. Director Scott said that he hoped some definite programme could be devised towards a solution of the cut over land problem. Arrangements are In the hands of Seattle business organizations. - Only One Marion Office Open. SALEM, Or., Nov. 15. (Special ) Only one county office is to be filled here at the 1922 election. With the exception of W. H. Goulet, county commissioner, all of the officers now on the payroll In Marlon county will hold their offices until the elections in 1925. Mr. Goulet has not an nounced whether he will be a candi date for re-election. Infantile Paralysis Fatal. CHKHAT.IS. Waeh.. Nov. IK. (Spe- A Gift A 10-Day Tube of Pepsodent is sent to all who ask. See coupon. lake This Test Watch how your teeth respond This ten-day test has shown to millions the way to whiter, safer teeth. It is a free test you should make it No other method known can do what Pepsodent does for teeth. To end the film The object is to fight the film, which dims the teeth and causes most tooth troubles. Dental science has worked years to do that. Film is that viscous coat you feeL It clings to teeth, enters crevices and stays. The ordinary tooth paste does not combat it satisfactorily, so brush ing leaves much of it intact. i It is the film-coat that discolors, not the teeth. Film is the basis of tartar. 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