THE MORXING OREGOXIAX. TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18, 1921 ON STRIKE TO Result of Conferences Not Yet Known. NOTHING ELSE IS DONE Postal Chief's Statement Is Only One Issued In AVasblngton; Daughcrty Meets President. WASHINGTON, D. C, Oct. 17. A report embodying tha result of con ferences between the public group of the railroad labor board and the interstate commerce commission on the threatened railroad strike was laid before President Hardlnr today. The text of the report was not made public, but Chairman McChord of the commission announced that the con ferences had been concluded. "Anything- regarding our report must come from the president," he eaid. At the White House it was aid there would be no statement to night An attitude of watchful prepara tion characterised activities of other irovernmentai agencies. The depart ment of Justice completed a survey of - statutes and precedents to determine the scope of federal authority, but the Impression given by most offi cials was that the government could not move, except by mediation or moral suasion, until the situation had assumed a more concrete status. Hays Says Mails Will Move. Evidence waa atill lacking as to a basis for the expressed expectation ty labor leaders that a petition for Injunction would be tha next move ment by the government. I'ostmaster-General Hays also was known to have obtained reports from lils assistants as to ways and means ot meeting any attempted interfer ence with the malls. By telephone he conferred with heads of important postal districts aa to the emergency facilities. "The malls will be moved.' he said later, but he refused to make any further comment. "A time may come for action." he raid. "1 sincerely trust it will not. If it does, there will be action." Statistics Are Studied. At the conference between mem bers of the labor board and the com merce commission, voluminous statis tics were studied. The conferees saw Attorney-General Paugherty at noon and Mr. Daugherty lunched with the president. Later he held an interview with Postmaster General Hays. Alfred P. Thorn, general counsel for the association of railway executives, held conferences with Chairman Cum mins of the senate interstate com merce committee. Senator Cummins aid that congress probably , would not take any action at present. It would be Impossible, he said, for the legislative branch to move until the executive had exhausted every effort to avert a strike. Conference Held Possible Possibility of President Harding summoning the chiefs of the railroad brotherhoods here for a talk was sug gested in several quarters, but the White House was silent. Government officials, it was learned, are paying close attention to publlo opinion. In some quarters the opinion was ex pressed that "the Weight of public opinion would be the determining factor in averting the strike" or in bringing it to a speedy close in case other efforts failed to avert. When the house convened today, .Representative Blanton asked unani mous consent to discus for five min utes "the recent declaration of war against the people of the United tstales which Is to occur October 30." ' Representative Walsh, republican, Massachusetts, prevented Mr. Blanton from speaking by objecting to his re cti a I r m a n Wlnslow of the house commerce commission, which consid ers measures affecting railroads, to day called a meeting for tomorrow for che purpose, Mr. Wlnslow said, of de ciding what legislation Is to be pressed before the end of the present session. Hope wss expressed generally by government officials that the sugges tion advanced by the public group of the railroad labor board, her for con ferences with the Interstate commerce commission, might be made the basis for a aolution of the problem. The public group of the board proposed that the railroads Immediately put Into effect freight reductions equiva lent to tile wage decreases authorized fcy the board last July, that the rail roads withdraw further requests for wage reductions! and that the em ployes rescind the strike order pend ing action by the board on proposals of the carriers for further pay cuts. Mays Issues Statement. j rostmasier General Hay, In tha only public statement issued up to noon, said: "1 am sure the parties to the con troversy will not permit developments Which will interfere with government service." said Mr. Hays. "This is no time for statements from this depart ment. A time may coma for action: 1 sincerely trust that it will not. If It does, there will be action. The malls will be moved." Postmaster-General Hays refrained from discussing plana of his depart ment with relation to tha threatened trike. Mr. Hays was understood to have conferred with postoffice offi cials in various cities by long-distance telephone, but the Information he re ceived was not disclosed. About 30,000 army trucks, most of them In storage at corps area depots over tha country, would be available for transportation use In tha event of m complete railroad tie-up, it was learned at the war department. There was some discussion today of bringing up the antt-strike bill spon sored by Senator Poindexter. repub lican, Washington, but it was said there would be no immedlata action by congress. MORE LABOR CHIEFS ASSIGNED Big Five Executives to Bo Kept Advised of Situation. j CLEVELAND, Oct. 17. Additional assignments of grand officers in 12 principal cities who will keep the executive's of the "big f've" railroad transportation organisations advised of the situation In their districts were anuounced here tonight by Warren S. Hone, president of tha Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers. The names, n addition to those announced at Chicago Saturday night. Include the following: Denver A. J. I.ovell, W. J. Babe. Dviluch E. A. Bali. Los Anselea J. A. Phillip, J. A. Ft Sjuharson. Omahs J. T. Hushes. X. H. KruM. St. Paul . N. Merry. Fan Franciero F. H. Nemlts. Seattle M. K. Mont emery. Hi 9,000,000 AUTOS AND TRUCKS READY FOR EMERGENCY USE General Manager of National Automobile Chamber of Commerce Declares Freight, Needed Most, Can Be Handled. X T EW YORK. Oct. 17. (By tha Aa J aoclated Press.) Mora than 9,000.000 automobiles and trucks will be available for emergency use if the railroad strike called for Oc tober 10 goes into effect, Alfred Reeves, general manager of the Na tional Automobile chamber of com merce, declared In a statment today. He said the motor trucks of tha coun try could easily handle freight neces sary to relieve emergencies and added that in cities commuting passenger traffic could be taken care of by motor buses. Farmers, Mr. Reeves said, own 139. 000 trucks, and these, with those in cities, could be utilized in delivering food products. OMAHA. Neb., Oct. 17. (By the As sociated Press.) Carl R. Gray, presi dent of the Union Pacific system, in an Interview published In the Omaha World-Herald today expressed the opinion that the threatened railroad strike, should it materialize, would not last a great while. He added that it Is hard for him to foresee any par ticular distress from a shortage of essentials due to a strike. "The railroads," he was quoted as saying, "are placed in a strange posi tion. The wage decrease has been ordered by the same board that pre viously granted a wage Increase. We are as much subject to the orders of this board as are the men. Should the railroads refuse to abide by such orders, they would be placed in the same position as the men now are. Five-sevenths of the transportation cost of any person or article is labor, so you can see how important It Is that wages be adjusted to permit a decrease in rates now so vigorously demanded by all." WASHINGTON. D. C. Oct 17. (By the Associated Press.) The threatened railroad strike was today denounced as "a most cruel and unjustifiable attack on the people and govern ment," by J. H. Defrees, president ot tha chamber of commerce of the United USates. Similar action by the labor groups in 1919 was avoided, he said, by pas sage of the Adamson law and labor leaders at that time could offer in their defense tha fact Jhat there was no legally constituted body to render a decision In the controversy. "Congress haa now constituted snoh a tribunal in creation of the railroad labor board," tha statement said. "If any one is dissatisfied with the board, there is open the orderly method of democracy for obtaining changes." SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 17. The rail road executives at their meeting in Chicago last Friday decided that they would welcome a strike if the em ployes refused to accept the proposed 10 per cent wage reduction, B. M. Rob inson, president of the American Short Line Railroad association, said at a regional meeting of tha organi zation here today. He advised that if the reductidn be ROAD OFFICERS PREPARE STRIKE OF ORGANIZED WORK ERS FULLY EXPECTED. Public- Sentiment Wholly Against Walkout, Say Charles Dillon, Representing Executives. The association of railway exec utlves, which represents 204 railroads of the country, expects that the threatened strike will become effec. tive at the time fixed and 1 prepar ing for It, according to Charles Dillon, representing the association, who ad dressed tha members' forum of the Chamber of Commerce yesterday. He said he had Just received a telegram from New York headquarters to that effect. Mr. Dillon discussed in detail soma of the troubles of tha railroad rela tive t rate and wages. "I have canvassed many men in many cities on the proposed strike of the rail em ployes," he said. "Public sentiment a obtained from Interviews with heads of newspapers and others is over whelmingly against the strike and the men will be blamed for it This Is the result of a painstaking canvass of cities throughout the country. "The 124 per cent reduction in wages of July 1 last already has bsen absorbed In hundreds of lowered freight rates, mostly commodity rates'. Any further reduction In wagea will be reflected instantly in lower rates for the benefit ot the people. "The proposed strike will bring out whether one class shall rule and dic tate that it shall take none of the hardships and reductions which all other people In the United States have had to take as a result of readjust ment. If the railroad workers pre vail you and 1 will have to pay for the high wages, either directly in the form of taxes under government own ership of railroads or in continued high freight rates. Tha railroads can. not reduce freight ratea further with out decrease in operation costs. The railroad men's wages now are 124 per cent higher by tha hour than they were in 1S1.M The speaker gave soma compari sons In income and expense between lflt, before the rallroadB were takes over by the government, and 1920, when they had been given back. "Anybody who demands govern, ment ownership of railroads is Ignor ant of the facts." he aid. "From 19H to 1920 revenues Increased SO per cent for the railroads." The Passenger revenues were up 50 per cent and the freight return were 70 to 74 per cent greater. "But expense Increased 110 per cent. Tha labor bill Is two and one half times over that of 191. when the railroads earned per cent as against 1 per cent earnings in 1920. Fuel cost has Increased 144 per cent, taxea 90 per cant, supplies 65 to 70 per cent. "Efficiency has fallen. Losses and damages In 1916 were 130.958.000. and they had increased in 1920 to 1122, 000.000. The government took tha railroads lata in 1917. From 191K to 1920 the labor cost on railroads rose from J1.J6S.100. 518 to tl.698.216.351. The distribution of money received by railroads In 1920 expressed In cents per dollar calls for nearly 60 cenfts for labor. 11 cents for fuel. 17 cents for material, supplies and miscel laneous purposes. Of the remaining 12 cents of the dollar-only 1 cent is available for return on the invest ment. "There Is nothing so regulated as the railroads are. They cannot say what wages shall be. what the rates shall ba nor how tha work shail bs handled. They must get permission to do these things. They are no: permitted to say what part of the money shall be kept after it is earned. "If the railroads get a return ot ( per cent or more the interstate commerce commission takes one-half the surplus snd msy say what ehaU be done with It. This part of the law die In March, 1921. But aftaf put in effect, the benefit be passed on to the shippers in the form ot lower freight rate. NEW YORK. Oct 17 (By the Asso ciated Press.) Necessary steps to con tinue publio service in any emergency will be taken by the Southern Pacific line, -according to a telegram sent to the New York Herald today from New Canaan, Conn., by Julius Kruttschnltt, chairman of the executive committee. The telegram follow: "Tha three president of the South ern Pacific line charged with their operation may be relied on to tak all necessary step to continue public Bervice in any emergency that may arise. The labor leaders have raised a sharp issue whether a small mi nority or the mas of the American people shall govern our country and make its laws Railroad officers un derstand tha nature of their obliga tions to the public and the sooner all organized and unorganized employes also recognize the public nature of their service tha sooner wa shall have Industrial peace." NEW YORK. Oct. 17 (By the As sociated Press.) A general railroad strike would have an immediate and serious effect on steamship lines, ac- cording to W. L. Marvin, general manager of the American Steamship Owners' association. Curtailment of train service, he said today, would interfere with the flow of export to seaboard and a few dajr would see pier and warehouses congested with imports. coastwise lines, it was said, might bo compelled greatly to Increase pres ent sailings to care for freight and passengers. The same will apply to coast-to-coast traffic, via the Panama canal. OTTAWA. Ont., Oct. 17. (By the Associated Press.) A. R. Mosher, president of the Brotherhood of Rail way Employes, said today that the projected railroad strike in the United State would not affect Canadian lines. In several cases In Canada boards of conciliation are functioning. FARGO. N. D., Oct. 17. (By the As sociated Press.) That the threatened railroad strike will not last more than a week, because, he said, tha sufferings of the public will force the government to take possession of the roads and operate them, was the prediction made tonight by Glenn E. Plumb, originator of the Plumb plan. CEDAR RAPIDS. Ia., Oct 17. (By the Associated Press.) L. E. Shep pard, president of the Order of Rail way Conductors, said today there would be a railroad strike and was making preparations for one, and while no one wanted to see a Btrike, "there comes a time when patience ceases to be a virtue and that time is now." Mr. Sheppard appealed to the pub lic for a square deal for the men when the strike comes. that the Interstate commerce com mission still has the right to say what the railroads shall earn." Mr. Dillon goes from here to San Francisco, where he will speak before public bodies on the railroad situation. SOUTHERN PACIFIC IS READY Mr. Sproule Declares Many 5Ien Do Not Desire to Strike. Should tha railroad etrlke 'become an actuality the Southern Pacific will not be unprepared, William Sproule, president, said yesterday just before he left Portland for San Francisco. "We have in our system a large body of men who do not wish to be coerced into a strike," Mr. Sproule said. "Their wish is just as strong as the official staff. If their counsels prevail in their craft and their brotherhoods there will be no strike. "No railroad official in his right mind want a strike. All his training and impulses are against strikes. But if a strike comes the railway mana gers will find themselves in a posi tion not only to defend their property for which they are responsible but also to defend the rights of tha gen eral publio. Our hope is that the con venience and comfort of the great body of the people and general public may not be interfered with." H. E. Lounsberry, general freight agent of the O.-W. R. & N., Issued a warning yesterday to shippers of per ishable products to take what cars they can to rush shipments through. In the absence of refrigerator cars he suggested that apples be loaded in box cars, which may be protected from frost by lining them and using heaters. MILLION YET TO DECIDE (Continued From First Page.) Brotherhood of Blacksmiths, Drop Forgers and Helpers; J. J. Hines, Sheet Metal Workers' International Alliance: J. P. Noonan, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers; Martin Ryan, Brotherhood of Railway Carmen of America; E. H. Fitzgerald, Brotherhood of Railway and Steam ship Clerks, Freight Handlers, Ex press and Station Employes; T. C. Cashen, Switchmen's. Union of North America. - ' Cashen Ia Not Expected. Mr, Cashen is not expected to at tend, as his organization already has cast its lot with the brotherhoods. The officer of the maintenance of way employes will ba able to control their men in whatever decision is reached. Vice-president J. C. Smock of IndianapollB, said tonight. Timothy Healey of the firemen and oilers arrived today and reiterated previous assertions that a strike was certain. Mr. Fitzgerald pointed out that his men had voted overwhelm ingly for a strike, although no call had been issued. E. J. Manion of the telegraphers is expected tomorrow or next day and D. W. Helt of the signal men also ia on the scene. Key to Situation Is Held. G. H. Planten of Boston, grand vice president stated the maintenance of way men held the key to the situation and that this union acting alone or co-operating with others of the rail road group of tha American Fderation of Laboi or the big four brotherhood, would be able effectively to tie up tha country's transportation system. "The maintenance of way men may properly be called the submarine flo tilla so far as the situation is con cerned." he said. "For a long time we have been submerged while the atten tion of the public haa been directed to the big four brotherhoods. When rail road employes' wages were mentioned, the public Immediately thought of tha high wages received by conductors and engineer. No thought waa given to the wage received by the section hands. "The maintenance of way men today control the situation. If we walk out the watering, coaling and firing of all trains stops as well as track work. However, we have Bane, conservative leaders who will do the right thing at the right time. This is no tlaie to predict what our final action may be." L STRIKE ORDERS PASSED Or! TO Decision Is Officially An nounced in Circular. CODE GIVEN TO CHIEFS Sealed Envelopes to Be Opened If Any Message Is Not Understood ; Circular Is "Dated Chicago. CLEVELAND. Oct. 17. (By the As sociated Press.) Official permission for the railway workers Included In the "big five" transportation organi zations to begin the progressive strike at 6 A. M. October 30, signed by the heads of the organizations, was made public tonight by Warren S. Stone, president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers. The order' from the five chiefs was sent to the general chairmen. The circular containing the per mission is under Chicago date of October 14 and follows: "To General Chairmen Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers. Brother hood of Locomotive Firemen and En. ginemen, Order of Railway Con ductors, Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen and Switchmen's Union of North America: "Sirs and Brothers The general chairmen representing the employes on the railroads named In ' decision No. 147 and addenda thereto convened in Chicago for the purpose ot can vassing tha referendum vote of their respective memberships on the ques tion of wage reduction authorized by the railroad labor board made ef fective July 1, 1921, and to deter mine procedure. Wlahes of Men Carried Out. "The vote of membership of the above-named organization being overwhelmingly In favor of a strike in each of the associations represent ed, the chief executives and the gen eral chairmen have no alternative except to carry out the wishes, of the membership as expressed by their ballot, therefore said employes and other of our class will be permitted to withdraw from the service of their respective companies at (insert time for the strike to begin). "In order that the membership may be authoritatively informed, each gen eral chairman will be furnished with a sufficient number of copies of a notice adviBing members that a legal strike has been called, which notice may be read or exhibited to tha mem bership. "General chairmen furnished copy of these instructions will also be fur nished with copy of a telegram over the signature of their chief executive which should not be opened unless a telegram over- the signature of their chief executive is received which is not thoroughly understood, in which case they will open the sealed envel ope and if the telegram therein is found to be in strict conformity with the telegram received, it will mean that the strike is declared off and they will Immediately communicate with all local chairmen under their jurisdiction accordingly. Thorough l aderstnndlna- Urged. -"In the absence of the proper code message or a difference between the sealed Instructions and. tha message received, local chairmen should not be instructed to the effect that the strike Is declared off unless the general chairmen of all other organizations participating have received proper code messages from their chief exec utives, in which case you will be au thorized to act accordingly. "General chairmen should have a thorough understanding with mem bers of their several committees as to any communication they may send to their respective committeemen, and as an additional protection general chair men should not give all member of tha general committee the same code word of private Instructions. Each organization will have a different code word, words or arrangements. "General and local chairmen receiv ing telegrams. Instructions or orders from superior officers should not act thereon until they have -conferred with the other chairmen and should It develop that the Instructions or advices are not in harmony, great care should be exercised and no action taken until the difference has been removed. Fraternally your. "W. S. STONE, Grand Chief Engineer. B. of L. E. "W. S. CARTER, President, B. of L. F. and E. "L. E. SHEPPARD, President. O. R. C. "W. G. LEE, President, B. of R. T. "T. S. CASHEN. International President. S. U. of - A" Permission Also Made Public. Th official strike permission. signed by the general chairmen and handed down to tne local euauiucu. Is also dated Chicago. October 14, and follows: "To all local chairmen, members and others empioyeo in cimw. service represented by the a. ol l B. of L. F. and E., O. R. C, B. of R. T.. and S. U. of N. A. "Sirs and brothers: "This is to advise that the vote of members of the above named organi zations and others of our class was overwhelmingly in favor of a strike on the question of wage reductions covered in decision No. 147 and ad denda thereto, issued by the railroad labor board, effective July 1, 1921. "Your representatives have made every reasonable effort to effect a satisfactory settlement of the issues as described in the ballot and having failed in reaching a settlement, a strike of the members of the above named organizations and others of our class, has been approved under the laws of the organizations involved and. in accordance with your ex pressed wish as indicated by your bal lot, effective on railroad at . "Impart this information, so that those interested will understand that they are to promptly comply with In structions." RATE 'CUT PLAN BARRED (Continued From First Tage.) it. Therefore the labor unions then were within the law. The present case Is different. There is now a law which requires the railways and their em ployes to submit to the labor board disputes which may interrupt trans portation. Railways' Stand Is Cited. "While the railways complied with the decision In 1920 for an advance In wages, the lator brotherhoods now propose to defy the law and strike rather than accept a much smaller reduction in wages. The course of the labor unions in ordering a strike. In violation of the decision of the labor board and In disregard of the plain provisions of the law is clearly adopted to nullify these provisions of the law. . . . "The railway executives at a meet ing in Chicago. October 14, decided to ask tha railroad labor board for a reduction in "wages and to give the public in the form of -reductions la rate all benefit of any further re duction in wages that were granted. This, however, afforded the brother hoods no reason for ordering a strike. The strike vote was taken on accept ing the wage reduction already au thorized by the labor board and not on a future reduction. The execu tives, at the Chicago meeting, did not make any reduction in wages, but decided simply to seek a further re duction in accordance with the law, so that rate might ba reduced. Legal RUtht ta Strike Denied. "The railway employea have no more legal right to strike against it than the railroads would hava had to refuse to grant the advance in wages authorized in 1920 by tha labor board." Concerning the labor board publio group proposal to cut rates Imme diately, the atatement also said: "In asking for a further reduction In wage in order that they may ba able to grant tha public reductions in rates, the railways are acting only In accordance with the laws and In obedience to zn insistent public de mand that they shall create condi tions which will enable them to re duce rates. The suggestion has been made in a statement issued by the publio members of the labor board that the railways, to prevent a strike, shall make a reduction in rates equal to the reduction in wages made Julr 1, and shall postpone seeking a fur ther reduction in wages. Ruin la Declared Faced. "A general reduction In ratea with out a further reduction in wages would be ruinous to many railway. Thus far In 1921. the railways have earned a net return of only 2 6 per cent, and although the net earnings have Increased recently owing largely to the recent reduction in wages, a general reduction of rates without a further reduction In wcaes would put the railways back in a precarious po sition financially." The statement declared that the roads were in sympathy with the farmer and desired to help him through lower ratea Just as quickly ss possible, but that this wa impos sible under present wages. RATES HELD ALREADY CUT Chairman of Executives Reports Large Loss In Earnings. NEW YORK. Oct. 17. Declaration that the railroads already had reduced freight rates, "bringing about a large loss in earnings," Thomas Dewitt Cuyler, chairman of the Association of Railway Executives, replied to the propo sition of the public group of the rail road labor board that the 12 per cent wage reduction recently authorized ba translated in lower freight rates before asking for further wage re ductions. Mr. Cuyler announced that the proposition had not been for mally brought to his attention, his information being obtained from press reports. "There have been extenslva reduc tions, most of them voluntary. In rail road rates, bringing about a large loss in earnings to the railroads, " Mr. Cuyler declared. "The reduction of wage made on July 1 was put Into effect only after many freight reductions had been previously made." He cited many reduction made after July 1. Including "a reduction on cargo coal from points in Ohio, west ern Pennsylvania, West Virginia to Lake Erie ports, affecting from Au gust 1 to October 7 soma 14,700.000 tons on which the actual loss of reve nue to railroads amounted to i4.ll. 000." , Reductions had also been made, he said, on grain and grain products, road-making materials, export iron and steel product and scores of other commod'ties; that on some "railroads the reductions have amounted to more than the reductions In wages and on many other railroads the reduction in wages allowed no return on opera tions, but merely provided against further accumulation of a deficit." F. D. Underwood, president of the Erie railroad, tonight expressed the hope that tha strike would actually occur. "This is the time and the place for t," he declared, adding that tha "strike was one, against the um pire or the raltroad labor board." "It should be understood," he said, "that the present strike movement, analyzed, .amounts to this: It I dif ferent from any other strike in that it is not directed against railways, but against the verdict of a body constituted by congress, who, after a hearing, fixed wages, not at tha in stance of the interested parties, but founded on condition developed by evidence. ' "The real purpose ia not appre ciated by some of us. It is to bring ebout government control the desire of labor bodies, some part of the pub lic and some members of congress. "Railroad labor haa the idea that under government control they are better off: naturally they are for it. A leader of the railway conductors, when asked why hi men preferred rovernment control, said: 'Because the conditions ara better and the discipline not so sharp.' "We are back at the old junction. Are a minority to starve and incon venience their paymasters, the public for the reason that a board of um pires, on which they (the men) were represented, falls to suit their view?" Mr. Underwood said there need be no fear that the malls would not be carried. RAIL LINES HELD READY O.-W. R. & N. Official Says Roads Prepared for Strike. CHEHALrS, Wash.. Oct. 17. (Spe cial.) William Carruther of Ta coma, district freight and passenger gent of the O.-W. R. & N. lines, at today' Citizens' club luncheon said that the railroad organizations are prepared to fight to a successful fin ish the proposed strike that ha been called. The proposed strike wss characterized a next to the late war the most important question that ha come before the people of the country. The proposed rollcall of the Lewis County Red Cross chapter, of which Chehalls is the official head was of ficially launched, the work to begin Armistice day. Reports of the work of the local chapter the last year both in soldier and civilian relief work was given by the secretary. Mrs. Eda Balfour. Chairman School and Don G. Abel, who will have charge of-the rollcall, and others spoke. RICH MEJf TO RUN TRAINS Volunteer Crew Is Ready to Serve Again in Case ot Strike. UADTIIC1V1WV Ttf T rf 17 Tha men who operated the "Millionaires' Special" on the Delaware, Lacka wanna w western rnuruau, urmgiiis 1920 railroad strike, are ready again lor write. . i w, .- hall, banker, said today that if the tnreatenea iinna ucwiuea eeij man would be found at bis post Cincinnati Lay-Off Announced. CINCINNATI, Oct 17. The South ern railway, the only road entering Cincinnati whose men will strike October 30, has announced a lay-off of about SO men employed at the shops at Ludlow, Ky., effective Thursday. STRIKE SETTLEUM DECLARED POSSIBLE Peace Put Up to Railways or to Government. ENGINEER CHIEF TALKS I Warren S. Stone Says Plan for New Cut In Wages Is Directly Re sponsible lor Walkout. CLEVELAND, Ohio, Oct 17. vBy the Associated Preaa.) The progrea siva railroad strike scheduled to be gin October 10 can be settled by the railroad or prevented by the govern ment Warren S. Stone, president of tha Brotherhood of Locomotive En gineers, said tonight when asked his opinion. Mr. Stone said tha causa of the trlk 1 largely because of the action of the railroad managers In request ing a further 10 per cent wage re duction and elimination of favorable working agreements on upward of 1i roads, in addition to the 12 per cent waga reduction effective last July 1. . The railroads can settle the strike by the elimination of these condi tions, he said. "The' government can prevent the strike by taking over the railroads, and thia is what will hap pen eventually," he said. He also Issued a statement covering the men's positions and their reasons for strik ing. Groups Are Made Pablle. ' Mr. Stone made public the four groups of roads on which the strike is scheduled to begin, the first group going out at A. M. Sunday, October SO, and the others in 48-hour periods. The Pennsylvania, one of the largest systems, is one of the last to be hit. No explanation waa given for this action. It also was explained that all the organizationa in some of the roads in group four are not officially au thorized to strike, some organization not casting the necessary 66 2-3 per cent vote in favor of the walkout "The big five" Ieadera expect, how ever, that all organizations on such roads will follow the general walk out being influenced to join the trike by seeing their brothers quit. Strike Declared Desired. Mr. Stone said he believed thst tha railroads "want a strike," and that a further reduction in wages is much less desirable to the railroad execu tives than the abrogation of rules and re&ulatione. "The railroad executives can settle the dispute or the United States gov ernment can prevent a strike." Mr. Stone declared. "'Talcing over the railroads is the mont effective way in which tha government can avert the strike scheduled for October 30. "If it had been a question of wage reductions only there would have been no strike. I have from 75 to 100 letters giving Instances of attempts by different railroads to break down the working rules that have been se cured by arbitration, by decisions of the railroad labor board and In other ways. The railroads can settle the strike by the elimination of these conditions and withdrawal of their request for a further 10 per cent wag reduction." Employea' Hope Is Cited, A statement by Mr. Stone,-explaining the men's position and their rea sons for striking, follows in part: "When the transportation act of 1920 became a law It was hoped by the employes that all disputes would be adjusted and decisions rendered by the board would be compiled with by the carriers and employes. In stead of complying with the decisions of the labor board, the railroads soon began to disregard or flout Us de cisions, flagrant cases of this being the action of tha Atlanta, Birming ham &. Atlantic, th Erie, the Penn sylvania railroad and many other cases. "It is admitted bV all that the rail road men were the last to receive any Increase during the war. During August, 1919, the Brotherhood of Lo comotive Engineers submitted to President Wilson a statement Betting forth that a decrease In the cost of the necessities of life was necessary or an increase in wage was impera tive. "From that time on the question of wages wa discussed on different occasions and was finally submitted to the labor' board. In July, 1920 the board handed down a decision which based on all the facts they declared was just and equitable and further stated that their conclusions were reached after long consideration of Ian ine iat,ia as cnutui.Lu j testimony. Atterbnry Demand Recalled. "Later Mr. Atterbury of the Penn sylvania railroad in a spectacular presentation, demanded an immediate reduction of the wages of all railroad employes notwithstanding the car riers had been granted a material In crease In freight and passenger rates to meet the Increased wages. This was denied on technical grounds because the carrier had not properly created a dispute in accordance with the transportation act. "The railroads then began to serve notice on all employes demanding re ductions in pay, thereby legally cre ating a dispute which was referred to the labor board resulting in a 12 per cent reduction as of July 1. "To aggravate the situation further, immediately following this meeting a great number of the railroads served notice on thlr employes that thej would revise a schedule and take from them rules governing their service that had been In effect for fram ten to SO years. The majority of such rules were the result of negotiations with representatives of the organiza tions and the managers of the indi vidual railroads and acknowledged to be fair and equitable. Conference Is Arranged. "A conference of all general chair men was arranged to be held in July in Chicago. The result was to in struct executives of the organizations to meet executives of the railroads prior to September 1 for the purpose of trying to bring about an amicable adjustment. This was done and a committee of railroad executives were met in the east, southeast and west ern territories, their answers all be ing similar and denying any concil iatory measures. Following the re fusal of the executives of the railways to enter into any agreement with the executives of the organizations, there was nothing left to do but refer the matter to a referendum vote of the workers. In October the repre sentatives of the workers were con vened in Chicago and a canvass of the vota was made which indicated that 94 per cent plus were in favor of withdrawing from the service. Such a condition was never known before In the history of railroad labor and no doubt was caused by the ar rogant selfish attitude of the rail road executives together with their declination to be a party, to any con ciliatory terms. "After tha vote had been canvassed the chairmen of tha railroad owners' association wa notified by wir of the result and the request for a con ference committee was made. Tha 150 railroad presidents meeting In Chicago named a committee of five railroad presidents to meet executive officer of the transportation brotherhoods. They declined to make any conces sion or offer any solution providing for a settlement, but Instead notified us that a resolution would be adopted by the railroad presidents asking the labor board for a further wage re duction. Then, and not until then, was permission given for men to leave the service. (Signed) "WARREN S. STONE." The "big five" chiefs or their rep. resentatlves will convene tomorrow to consider strike matters. Tha strike will not affect tha so called short-line roads, it was ex plained by W. G. Lee, president of the Brotherhood of Railroad Train men, Inasmuch as they were not af fected by the waga increases and re ductions In which th large roads figured. i Chairman Barton of the railroad la bor board, announced that he and other member of the public group ex pected to leave Washington tonight for Chicago. Reports that they would take with them definite instruction as to a prospective move In the strike crisis could not ba confirmed. LABOR ALSO DOUBTS PLAN Leaders Declare Rate Cut Would Not Prove Feasible. CLEVELAND. Oct. 17. (By the Associated Press.) The proposal of the public group of the railroad labor board to reduce freight rates to pre vent a railroad strike would not prove feasible. Warren S. Stone, grand chief of tha Brotherhood ot Railroad Engineers, declared today. "The suggestion cannot be worked out," Mr. Stone said. "By th tlm the reduction got to the consumer it would not amount to one-half of 1 per cent The middleman would ab sorb all of the difference." W. G. Lee, president of the Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen, would make no direct statement today on the feasibility of the plan. "Our understanding, and I believe that of the public also, was that the 12 per cent wage reduction of last July would be passed on to the public," Mr. Lee said. Neither Canadian roads nor the Southern Pacific lines in Mexico will be affected by the strike, Mr. Lee said. The lines in Mexico are not organized, he said. STATION MEN ALSO MAY QUIT Counting of Ballots in Strike Vote Is Proceeding. BOSTON, Oct 17. The Brother hood of Railroad Station Employes, an Independent organization, prob ably will take action similar to that of the big four brotherhoods in or dering a walkout of members, P. J. Coyle, president, said today. The counting of ballots In a strike vote taken by the station employes is stilt proceeding, he addeti. He said hj thought that unless a further cut in wages waa made there would be no serious interruption in railroad service. i St. Louis Baggage Strike Ends, ST. LOUIS, Oct 17. The Btrike of 277 baggage handlers at the Union station, which began Thursday, ended today. The strikers' places were tilled quickly and officials of the terminal railroad association announced that the men would be taken back only as vacancies arose. The strike resulted from the discharge of ona man. Two Others Minimize Proposal. ST. LOUIS. Oct. 17. Presidents of two railroads having general offices here today said that the railroads could mat adopt th suggestion of the railroad labor board that the roads put into effect rate reductions equiv alent to wage reductions authorized last July. Columbus Yardmasters Stay In. COLUMBUS, O., Oct 17. There will be no strike of tha Railroad Yard masters of America, whose headquar ters are here, according to W. M. Brown, grand secretary - treasurer. "This organization is not a striking organization," he said. Legion Offers Air Pilots. KANSAS CITY, Mo.. Oct 17. The aviation committee of the American Legion executive committee today telegraphed Postmaster-General Hays offering to recruit volunteer pilot for the air mall service in the event of a general railroad strike. ETHICS URGED ON PRESS Truth In News Will Contribute to World Peace, Says Speaker. HONOLULU, T. H., Oct. 17. True news and a lofty standard of journal istic ethics were urged as a means to better international understanding ana permanent peace, in an address before the press congress of the world today by Ludwig Saxe, secretary of the Norwegian Press association. Declaring falsehoods have generally been the cause of war, Mr. Saxe ex pressed the conviction that through a better understanding among jour nalists and a determination to present only truth permanent peace can be accomplished. He declared the pres ent international press congress an important factor In forming Journal istic ethics ajul a better international understanding. LEGION TO MEET ANYWAY Commander Says Session Will Be Held Despite Strike. KANSAS CITY, Mo., Oct. 17 Com mander Emery of the American Le gion, in a telephone conversation with A. E. Hutchings of Kansas City late today, stated that the national convention of the legion, scheduled here October 31, November 1-2, would take place even though the general railroad strike call should go Into effect October 30. Commander Emery counseled those in charge of the convention arrange ments against further urging that the Pinched noses lens loose or out of focus ' anything at all in the way of service is done gladly here any time without charge. COLUMBIAN Optical Company Floyd F. Brower, Mgr. (Not Connected With Any Other Optical Concern.) 145 Sixth, Near Alder HAZELWOOD ORCHESTRA J. F. N. Colburn, Director Tonight's Programme 6 to 8 and 9:30 to 11:30 1. An Eastern Dance, "Erlbus" Geo. J. Trinkaus 2. Waltz. "ChantiUV E. Wahlteufel I. Overture. "Czaar - und - Zlm- mermann A. Lortzlng 4. (a) Walts, "In My Tippy Canoe" Fred Fisher (b) Fox Trot. "Spread l'o" Stuff" Levy-Crane Bernard E. Chanson, "Indoue" Rimsky - Karsakow 6. Selection, "La Boheme" G. Puccini T. Intermezzo, "Al Fresco" Victor Herbert 8. (a) "Aragonalse," from "Le Cid" G. Massenet (b) Chanson, "Sans Paroles".. P. Tschalkowsky 9. "Air de Ballet". .Victor Herbert 10. "Oh. Joy" Billy Schroeder A delightful programme every night, 6 to 8 and 9:30 to 11:30. WASHINGTON ST. TazGl(DOod CJ VcONFECTIONEJCr' A RESTAURAK1 388 Washington Street Near Tenth CHE strike ba delayed a week so as not to Interfere with tha convention. He said: "Such an appeal is not dignified and the American legion doea not have to get down on its knees and supplicate the organizations to have the convention. "The speakers scheduled to speak will be there and the delegates will be there. The American legion will see that they are there." PUBLISHER PUT ON TRIAL Man Who Attacked Wilson In Ar ticle Charged With Draft Evasion. NEW YORK. Oct. 17. Linn A. E. Gale, who during the war published a magazine in Mexico City, was put on trial before a court-martial on Governor's island today charged with evading the draft, publishing articles attacking Woodrow Wilson when he waa president and printing articles encouraging resistance to the draft. After the charges had been outlined, the trial was adjourned for a week at the request of the defense. YEGGS GET $25,000 LOOT Des Moines Jeweler Bound and Gagged and Diamonds Stolen. DES MOINES, Ia., Oct. 17. Two hold-up men obtained diamonds val ued at $25,000 today, when they held up, bound and gagged Simon Kamen, Jeweler. The robbery took place In the heart of Oes Moinen' hunlnep district. The truth -the w-t-and n-b -t t 'ivJ3 There is one hat that never , disappoints j it s good yesterday ! today V" tomorrow THE LANPHER HAT ' i . 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