THE MORNING OREGONIAN, SATURDAY,' SEPTE3IBER 10, 1921
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"DM FOOL" LABEL
HELD UiASIOl
Dr. McEIveen's Appellation to
Churchman Criticised.
SAN FRANCISCANS D'AZED
Fasor and Other Dignitaries De
clare Portland Minister TTscd
Tongue Indlscrctely.
BY EDWARD BAGDEJf.
SAX FRANCISCO, Sept. 9. (-Spe
clal.) A man may be a "damn fool.'
but It Is not for a minister of the
gospel to label him as such
Thus speak representative San
Franciscans who, at the breakfast
table a few days ago. were enlivened
when they iead a story from Port
land. Or., that Dr. W. T. McElveen,
pastor of the First Congregational
chu-ch, burst into print thuswiser
If a minister thinks a man is a
damn fool, he has as much right to
say so as anyone else.
From the quotation It appears that
the Oregon divine not only referred
to a member of his flock as a damn
fool," but sturdily defends his right
to say so, regardless of his ecclsl
astic status. .
But those San Franciscans I talked
to not only condemned the Portland
minister's forcible description of the
nameless parishioner, but scorned his
right to say so.
Clcnrymen Dreadfully Coy.
Clergymen throughout San Francis
co with whom I conversed were dread
fully coy in an official way but a
number of them unofficially panned
Kev. Dr. McElveen for his unhoned
designation.
Rev. William Orris Fisher, pastor
of the First United Presbyterian
church of San Francisco, was willing
to be quoted.
Here is what he had to say:
"I don't think the Eprtland clergy
man or any other divine has a right
to call another man a damn fool. In
fact, no man has a right to call an
other man a damn fool; that is, if he
stops to think a minute or so."
"In other words," I pursued, "no
man will call another man a damn
fool for fear of Incriminating him
self?" "Something like that," the pastor of
the First United Presbyterian church
of San Francisco replied.
Curious as to what a woman thought
of a minister's right to call a man'
a damn fool. 1 got in touch with Mrs.
Frederick G. Sanborn, president of
the board of education of the city and
county of San Francisco.
Woman Quotes Scripture,
Said Mrs. Sanborn:
"1 think a minister of the gospel as
sumes a very great deal to call an
other man a damn fool. Certainly it
doesn't comport with the dignity of
the ministry. There might be room
for the Portland pastor's forcible
description of the man whose head
work he scorns, but I, for one, would
' be unwilling to join his class, unless,
of course, 1 first applied a severe
mental test. If you will turn to the
15th chapter of Proverbs and read the
second verse, you will know what I
think of the Oregon pastor who called
a member of his church a damn fool."
"Did you remembertthe verse off
hand?" I asked.
"yes," Mrs. Sanborn replied.
"Shoot." 1 urged. j
"The tongue of the wise useth
knowledge aright, but the mouth ot
fools pourefh out foolishness.'"
And then I got in touch with Jo
seph George Jacobson, the composer
pianist. "Anyone, and especially a clergy
man, surely uttered an uncalled-for
stricture when he refers to another
man as a 'damn fool,'" Joseph said.
"Of course, a minister has the same
right to say what he thinks as any
one else; but when it comes to des
ignating a man as a 'damn fool,' I am
sure he might have indulged in
choicer language.
- "Simp" or "Sap" More Dignified,
"For instance, the Portland pastor
might have referred to the man as
a 'dumbbell or a 'simp,' or even
a 'sap,' but it grates to think that a
spiritual adviser admits and defends
his right to call a member of his
cnurcn a aamn tool.' There is no
excuse for such languge from a man
who is supposed to be a spiritual edu
cator.-
And McKenzie Gordon, the tenor,
simply replied by quoting the 31st
verse of the 12th chapter of St. Mark:
"Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thy
self." "Draw your own conclusions," Mc
Kenzie added.
Having obtained expressions of
opinion from a minister, an educator
and a couple of musicians, I looked
up the legal end of the business.
Henley Booth. Southern Pacific at
torney, obliged.
"As I understand it," Henley said,
"a fool is a person lacking in com
mon sense or judgment; one who acts
without reason; -a stupid or silly per-
simpieton. logically, a damn
as a result of a simultaneous call fu
statements by the controller of the
currency for national and by the state
bank examiner for those under his
charter. Both calls came yesterda
morning. All institutions were foun
to be in excellent condition.
Liquidation of loans has been fairly
good, the amount aggregating 114
485,388 since last June, or nearly
per cent over the period named.
Deposits total more than 12,000,000
since last June, but are still below
the average prior to. that date.
. The following table shows the con
dltion of Portland banks at the date
of call and as compared with the
other dates named therein:
RESOURCES.
September 0. 1:!X...- I153.7S2.030
June ju. ivji ijo,iu4,u:4
September b. 1UM lli.uis.ui
DEPOSITS.
September . 1921 tl2T.340.1l
June 30. 1021 12,"i..!1s.iW:
September 8. 1S20 mi.64a.ua3
LOANS AND DISCOUNTS.
September 6. 1021 S :1,453,119
June 30, 1921 3,2o0,6d
St.pten.ber 8, 1920 107,725,944
CASH AND EXCHANGE.
September 6. 1921. . t 30.336,71:
June 30. 1921 ;!(,! i
'IPS' SAFETY IS OBJECT
FURTHER - STUDV OF OCEA'
CURRENTS ADVISED.
Soptemuer 8. 192
38.204, GO:
GERMANY RIGHTS ITSELF
Wife of University Professor Says
Conditions Are Improving.
PACIFIC UNIVERSITY, Forest
Grove, Or., Sept. 10. (Special.) Con-
atiions are rignung memseives n
Germany, according to information
received In a letter from his wife by
Dr. E. Albert Cook of the depart
ment of religious education at Pacific
univers'ty. It is still difficult to get
the best of fooJ. and work is not easy
to procure, but times are changing.
rapidly in the former German empire.
Mrs. Cook will sail from Hamburg
for Forest Grove this month. She
has been spending the summer with
her parents in Hamburg, accompanied
across the Atlantic by her daughter.
In many respects Germany has gone
back to her former life. Morally
thexe is still much room for Improve
ment. The Berlin police continue to
make raids on Tegel Forest, the cap
ital's Garden of Eden.
The Berliner Tageblatt. In an ed
itorial attacking the "nude" dancers,
said recently:
'In our favor it must be said that
the beat patrons of the natural bal
lets are foreigners, especially the
French officers taking a lively inter
est in the beauty ballets. But it is
disgraceful that 12 and 14-year-old
boys and girls are permitted to see
these performances. The parents of
children should at least refrain, from
taking them with them."-
NCOME TAX IS FOUGHT
School Programme Depends on De
cision of Government.
HONOLULU. Sept. 9. (Special.)
Upon a decision sought from the in
come tax department of the internal
revenue bureau in vvasnington oy tne
trustees of the Bernice O. Bishop es
tate depends the success of a pro
gramme of reconstruction for the Ka
mehameha schools projected by the
trustees.
Trustees of the estate are determined
to fight to the supreme court, if nec
essary, to have the Bishop estate de
clared a trust, inasmuch as the funds
derived from the estate all go to sup
port the Kamehameha schools, an ed
ucational institute for Hawaiian chil
dren, and the Bishop museum. The
estate wants the United States gov,-
ernment to refund $642,000 paid in in
come taxes in the past three years.
fool is a grade or two worse than my
understanding of a plain or garden
variety of fool.
Don't Be Too Harsh on Pastor.
"Still, the Portland minister should
not 4e too harshly condemned for
designating one of his parishioners
as 'a damn fool.' Every dog is enti
tled to one bite before he can be des
ignated as a vicious dog. you know."
Other widely known San Francis
cans were perfectly willing- to discuss
their views of the Portland divine's
deckle-edged grammar as applied to
the church member, but balked on my
printing their opinions.
One young church member said It
was hard to judge what aggravation
egged Rev. Mr. McElveen on, but, off
band, he would say that instead of
calling the church member a damn
fool, the Portland pastor might have
gotten by by referring to the parish
ioner as a sap who packed a skull, the
sutures of which were completely
solidified.
"Depends on the Congregation.
But, the young church member re
marked, a minister calling a church
member a damn fool was talking too
much like a soft-boiled zany, and a
man like that should be frowned
upon by polite society.
The last authority I consulted was
narry Annan, assistant manager of
tne i'aiace hotel, and perhaps the most
inveterate wearer of white carnations
this side of Greenland.
I asked Harry point-blank:
"Do you think any minister has a
right to call a member of his congre
gation a damn fool?"
"Depends on the congregation,"
Harry replied quickly.
PORTLAND BANKS GAIN
Improvement In Business Is Con
siderable Over Year Ago.
( Portland's banks show considerable
improvement In general business as
of September 6, over a corresponding
period for one year ago, it is shown
ZIONISTS PLAN COLONIES
Methods for Settlement in Palestine
Discussed.
CARLSBAD. Czecho-SIovakia, Sept
9. (By the Associated Press.) Meth
ods for colonizing Palestine and vari
ous land allotment systems were dis
cussed hy the world's Zionist con
gress today. Delegates from Pales
tine took a leading part in the dis
cussion.
Among the propositions advanced
was a plan to send a commission to
Palestine to make a first-hand study
of problems there. In this connection
it was disclosed that a California ex
pert would be "sent to visit the Zion
ist farm colony and prepare a de
tailed plan for future agricultural
developments..
AUTO DEALER MURDERED
(Continued From First Page.)
of detectives had been sent to Wis
consin to bring back Church.
H. W. CHURCH ARRESTED
Suspect Is Accompanied by Mother
When Taken Into Custody.
ADAMS. Wis., Sent. 9. Acting on
Instructions from Chicago, police late
today arrested H. W. Church as he
drove Into Adams in an automobile.
He was accompanied by his mother,
Mrs. Edward Church, who also was
detained.
Church is wanted in connection"
with the finding of the body of B. J.
Dougherty in the Desplaines river at
Mavwood. 111.
VVhen taken into custody Church
steadfastly denied knowledge of the
murder. He admitted. Chief of Police
Paulsen said, that he was acquainted
w'th the murdered salesman.
Church's father, Edward Church,
recentlyspurchased a firm near here
and young Church said that he had
dr'ven his mother here for a visit.
It Is expected that Church will be
returned to Chicago tomorrow morn
ing. ,
Mr. Sinnott Recommends Use of
Devices to Inform Vessels ol
Locations In Heavy Seas
THE OREGONIAN' NEWS BUREAU,
Washington. D. C. Sept. 'S. Repre
sentative Sinnott. at the request of
the Marshfield chamber of commerce,
has recommended to the coas; survey
that a more complete study te made
of ocean currents along the lacific
coast. He has recommended to tne
lighthouse bureau the installation at
lighthouses along the Pacific coast
of -the device recently developed
jointly by the bureau of standards
and coast survey which will enaoia
lighthouse stations in heavy weather
to Inform ships at sea of their exact
position.
These Improvements' are recom
mended primarily as the result of the
recent wreck of the steamers Alaska
and -San Jose.
Representative Sinnott today rec
ommended the establishment of a
star route from Granite to ureen-
horn. Baker county, to serve 88 fam-
ilies who will be utterly without mall
service during the winter unless this
route is established.
Pensions have been granted the
following Oregon applicants: Frank
Henderson. Portland. tit per month;
Arixtab Howell. Albany, and saran
K Whltnev. Dallas. J30: Solomon Le
lakes. Chiloauin. S20: and Walter D.
Matheny, Marshfield, 18.
The following fourth-class post
masters were today appointed in Ore
B-on to fill vacancies caused by resig
nation: Wellie C Urirrin, Arago. vice
Caleb C. Robison; John M. ueoioss,
DeMoss Springs, vice Amon Thomp
son; Ernest J. Maione. nontj, uvc
Charles L. Malone; Lawrence A. Pres-
cott, Imblef. vice George x. rergu-nn-
ntt M. Mumhr. Marauaiti, vice
James C. Marquam; George T. Elsey,
Merlin, vice Mattie Dean; James ueai
Pioneer, vice juaggie i. xen.
The following postmasters were ap
nnntri: Henrv C. Smith, rortson.
vice Henry G. Smith; Herman L. Funk
Heisson, vice Mathew Morrison. .
ARTIST AT HOOD RIVER
Edward Hill May Do landscapes
for Oregon Exposition.
WOOD RIVER. Or.. Sept. 9. (Spe
cial.) Edward Hill, nationally known
artist, and brother ot i nomas run
the latter for many years c. figure in
San Francisco art circles, having re-
eived from Senator Stanford a com-
miustnn of $50,000 for painting tne
The . Driv tie of the Last piKe,
commemorating completion of tne
Union Pacific highway, I which now
h.me-s in the museum ol Stanford uni
versitv.-has arrived here to spend the
winter and to engage in landscape
nainrinr.
Mr. Hill, who has Deen in rormuu
and more recently at Oregon coast
points, was here ten years ago tot a
time, and a numDer or local nuines
have given paintings executed by him
place of honor.
Mr. Hill's friends here will endeavoi
n rterBuade him to paint seme typical
scenes of the valley for exhibition at
he Oregon 1936 exposition at Port
land.
AIR EXHIBITS COLLECTED
Hood River County Board Will
Send Displays to Salem.
HOOD RIVER. Or.. Sept. 9. (Spe-
lal.l P. L. Manser, secretary of the
Hood River County Fair board, which
as postponed the holding of a local
fair this year, says the organization
s active in procuring fruit and vege
table specimens for display at the
tate fair.
I am endeavoring to collect the
following varieties of apples," says
Mr. Manser, "Winter Bananas, Ort-
leys. Delicious. Spitzbergs and
ravensteins. both boxed and in piate
displays. We also want Bosc, D A.n-
ou, Bartlett, Cornice and Winter
Nellis pears. In addition to the fruits
we will assemble displays of un-
threshed and threshed grains, grasses,
potatoes and vegetables. We will pay
growers for all displays at a rate
above the market price now prevailing."
Noted Educator Given Job.
HONOLULU, Sept. 4. (Special.)
Dr. Frank F. Bunker, widely-known
American educator and until recently
director of federal school surveys.
federal bureau of education. Wash
ington, D. C, Is to locate in Honolulu
permanently as executive secretary
of the Pan-Pacific Union. Alexander
Hume Ford, founder of the union, re
mains as director and Dr. Bunker will
be associated with him in the work.
MYER'S ITINERARY FIXED
War Finance Director to Visit Ag
ricultural Districts.
WASHINGTON, D. C. Sept. 9. The
st of cities to be visited by Eugene
Myer Jr., managing director of the
ar finance corporation, in his survey
of the agricultural and livestock sec
tion of the country in connection
with the enlarged credit powers of
the corporation, was made public to
dt.y. Mr. Myer, who left Washington yes
terdav. was exnected to reach Chicago
today. The other cities he will visit
1 J , Ua.I Can-
tember 12; Spokane. Wash., September
13; Portland, Or., September It; San
Francisco, September 15; Los Angeles,
September 19; Salt Lake City. Septem
ber 21; Cheyenne. Wyo,. September 22;
Denver, September 22; Kansas City,
Mo., Sept. 24; Omaha, September 26,
and Des Moines, September 26.
reriow
They say the first are
most lasting so the wise
young man will carry a (
box of Vogan's choco
lates on his first visit to
the "sweetest girl" and
she will be most favor
ably impressed.
He knows that Vo
gan's will speak for him
as a direct compliment
to her daintiness and .
refinement.
There is a tempting
variety of pecans, brazils,
walnuts, hazelnuts, cher
ries, peaches and pine
apple, all in cream, and
chocolate covered.
This month, good
dealers throughout the
West are featuring Vo
gan's Fruits and Nuts.
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sentence, deliberately gets arrested the
very next day. says the Jailer. The
working hours of the prisoners are
from 9 to 12 and 1 to 3. Time is pro
vided every day for healthy outdoor
exercise, like baseball, volleyball and
athletics of a general sort. There is a
band concert Sunday evening and a
real baseball game with outside teams
on Sunday afternoons.
WOMAN TRICKS ROBBER
Safe Opened, 96000 Swept Into
Lap, $900 Handed to Intruder.
WINDSOR. Ont., Sept. 9. George
Allen Is $6000 richer -today because
Mrs. Allen had the nerve to perform
feat of legerdemain with an out
law's pistol pressed against her-head.
Kneeling before a safe in 1 home
at the robber's command, with a pis
tol at her head, Mrs. Allen opened the
safe and swept JG000 into her lap.
Then she handed the robber ?900. with
which be escaped in an automobile.
TORNADO IS DISASTROUS
Reports From Creed more, Texas,
Say Several Injured.
AUSTIN', Tex., Sept. 9. Reports re
ceived from Creedmore, a small vil
lage south of Austin, state that sev
eral persons were seriously injured
and several thousands of dollars
property damage was done today by
tornado. -.
Telephone communication was cut
off entirely.
COURT DOMINI
WORLD JUDGES TO BE ELECT
ED A EXT WEEK.
3d Division Ordered to Camp Lewis.
LITTLE ROCK, Ark., Sept. 9.
Orders were received today for the
transfer of the third division from
Camp Pike to Camp Lewis, Wash.
The order is the result of the decision
of the war department to abandon
Citmp Pike. It will affect about 50
officers and 1200 enlisted men. -
Rugs Valued at $57,000.
LOS ANGELES. Sept. 9. Rugs val
ued at more than $57,000 were taken
by burglars last night from the store
ot Patterson & Co., decorators, ac
cording to reports made to the police
today. It was believed the rugs were
aken away In an automobile.
'League- Assembly Still Considers
EIUiu Root Candidate for
Tribunal Membership.
" GEXEVA,' Sept. 9. (By the Asso
ciated Press.) The international
court of Justice, on which the hope of
the league of nations seems ' now
largely to be centered, was foremost
in the preoccupations of delegates of
the league assembly today, and likely
will remain so until the judges of the
court are elected next week, fhe as
sembly committees meanwhile will es
tablish a basis for the work of the
session on disarmament amendments
and blockades.
The time limit for nomination of
judges closes Monday, with 89 can
didates put forward by 35 different
states.
No direct wprd has yet been re
ceived from Elihu Root, and the
league council still considers him a
candidate.
The American group of judges at
The Hague court allowed the time
limit to expire without sending in a
nominee. The delegates here gener
ally agree that an American miul be
elected to the court and that he will
be Mr. Root, if he does not officially
decline, in, which case probably John
Bassett Moore will be chosen.
NRTBDAY
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highest known. These suits were never made to sell for $35. but
they have just come in, and out they go for the Birthday Sale
at this unexpectedly low price. Today is the day for you to see
thenr to prove up on them, to save on a the suits you will need
for fall and winter.
Fifth Floor Lipman, Wolfe Gr Co.
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Super-Savings in the Birthday Sale
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BILL TO HELP- HAWAII
Labor Relief Measure Has Assur
ance of Congressional Aid.
HONOLULU, Sept. 9. (Special.)
Word has been received here that Sen
ator New and Representative Kahn
will both work for the passing of the
Hawaii labor relief bill, a bill per
mitting the bringing In of Chinese
labor for the sadly depleted sugar
plantations.
The bill is before congress now and
action on it is expected as soon as the
recess is over. ' .
Corded Madras Shirts $1.25
' Full coat shirts in conservative staple patterns; all extra quality corded madras
materials. All sizes 1 4 to 1 7.
Satin Stripe and Madras Shirts $2.25.
Made of those sturdy, ever-wearing imported English madrases; also satin striped
imported materials, and the best of domestic madrases, in a big assortment of desirable
patterns. Finely tailored and generously full size. Sizes 1 4 to 17.
New Java Crepes $3.85.
A new low price for shirts of this dependable material. They come in a' great col
lection of elegant patterns in silk and fiber." These shirts are wonderful for wear and
are bound to sell rapidly at the price. All sizes 1 4 to 1 7.
Finest of Silk Shirts $6.50 . '
Here are tlje good old times again when you can buy Eagle crepes, Roger & Thomp
son's heavy silk jerseys and Empire broadcloths of superior quality, Mallinson's crcpei
de chine, in the best made shirts that money can buy. It's the lowest price we've ever
known for shirts of these qualities at any time, and any man who needs shirts and
knows good shirts will not fail to tale advantage of this salr.
JAIL LIFEWELL LIKED
Beach Combers of Hawaii Fare
Iiike Lords In Prison.
HONOLULU, T. H., Sept. 9. (Spe
cial.) Honolulu is truly a paradise
for the old type beachcomber. He can
always get arrested and get a fine
bed and good treatment at the county
jail. It costs but 47 cents a day to
provide food, clothing, shoes and med
icine for each prisoner at the county
jail and the prisoners are so well
treated that many of them prefer to
relinquish liberty in order to enjoy
this comfortable life.
Many a man, on completion of his
Night School Opens ,
Monday Night
ENROLL NOW.
BUSINESS COLLEGE
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Samples Scarcely Two Alike
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Style-wise and money-wise men and women who purchase for men will select these
Ties in quantities; none to dealers. Come early.
The Slore for Men Lipman, Wolfe & Co.
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Regular Price 40c Pound
ON SALE TODAY
This Store Uses No Comparative Prices They Are Misleading and Often Untrue
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Rich, creamy chocolate fudge filled with
finest Oregon walnuts a tempting confec
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COMMENCING TODAYS-SATURDAY, SEPT. 10
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:30, 9:30-12:30 at the
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Mary mba-Xy lop hone
Geo. enkel (Premier
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Violin Tom Curtisa
Drums Ray Hulburt
Piano Jerry Reed
We extend a cordial Invi
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special dainty luncheons or
dinners. Prices ranue from
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vegetable and beverage.
For after theater parties we
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have a complete assortment of fountain drinks, lets. etc.. or your
favorite American dish. Brlnpr your friends here after the theater
and If thT enjoy dancins, they will find we have the finest dance
floor of any grill' in the city.
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