TIIE 5i5RXTXG OREGOXIAX, FRIxXT?, JULY 29, 1921 STEP TAKEN TO DATE ARMS' CONFERENCE America Wants Session by - November 11. LATER DAY IS SUGGESTED British Ambassador Is Understood to Have Broaelied Subject to Secretary Hughes. WASHINGTON, I. C, July 28. (By the Associated Press.) Informal ne gotiations over the date for the dis armament conference were begun to day with the American government suggesting selection of a time not later than armistice day, November 11. Definite replies are to be received. but unofficial information seems to j indicate that some of the other pow- era will prefer a later date and that; several diplomatic exchanges may be '. necessary before a unanimous agree- i nient is reached. I The question of a meeting time was discussed by Secretary Hughes today with the British and Japanese ambas sadors and the Italian charge here. China and France are to be consulted in the near future, though it is em phasized that there will be no disposi tion to press for a decision until each party to the conference can study the situation. Later Date Snjcxented. The British ambassador. Sir Auck land Geddes, was understood to have suggested that a date later than No vember 11 be selected unless a pre liminary conference is to be held at which the dominion premiers can be present. Such a preliminary meeting will be possible, in the view of the British government, late this summer when the premiers, now in London, are on their way home. No formal comment was available from American officials regarding such a proposal or concerning the statement emanating from official cir cles in London today that a prelimi nary meeting would be held within six weeks in Canada or in some American city other than Washington. Undue Delay Not Wanted. The general impression here was that this government hoped confi dently to overcome the British objec tion without a separate conference. Japan is said to feel at a disadvan tage because of the time that would be required for her delegates to reach Washington, but officials here believe she will consent to the November 11 date if the other powers find it agreeable. Among all the participating nations there Is an appreciation of the psy chological advantage of avoiding un due delay, and it is expected that fac tor will be a conspicuous one in the final decision. PRELIMINARY ACTION URGED Pre-Dlsarmanient Conference Is Suggested in London. ' LONDON, July 28. (By the Asso ciated Press.) It was state'd in offi cial circles here today that a meeting preliminary to the Washington con ference on disarmament and far east ern "problems to be held within six weeks at some Canadian city or a city in the United States other than Washington was virtually a certainty although it was admitted that the at titude of Washington on such an ar rangement was as yet unknown in London. The programme of the Washington conference should be arranged at the preliminary meeting. Prime Minister Lloyd George plans to head the British representatives, while Premier Hughes of Australia and Premier Massey of New Zealand also would attend the meeting on their way to their homes. JAPANESE MAKING PROBES Two Separate Investigations on Dis armament Under Way. TOKIO, July 2S. (By the Associated Press.) The Japanese general staft and the war office, it was understood here today, are making separate in -vest iff at ion 3 in connection with cur tailment of the army, their reports to be submitted to a joint council of the foreign, navy and war departments. The Nichi Nichl said that if the powers restrict their armies rationally the policy of the Japanese war de partment would be to do likewise. WEAR IS HELD OVERRATED (Continued Prom First Pae.) effort to set aside the theory, al though It is certain that later he will attempt to disprove the theory of th city. H. D. Pillsbury. vice-president and general counsel for the Pacific Tele phone & Telegraph company, became a city witness late this afternoon when Attorney Tomlinson called him to the witness stand. The shock of his "adoption" by the city apparently affected the usual retentive memory of the high official of the company for to a majority of questions put to htm Mr. Pillsbury gave the simple answer of "I don't know." This answer was given to a string of questions relating to the present location of records containing the cost of constructing the Oregon plant of the predecessors of the Pacific Telephone & Telegraph company. IlecOrda Supposedly Lout. With the exception of one book, known as the general ledger book, these records were supposed to have been destroyed in the San Francisco fire in 190fi. Attorney Tomlinson took the posi tion that duplicate records might be In New York at present and that he would probably request the public service commission to endeavor to obtain the records to determine if in dependent companies, purchased by the Pacific company or its predeces sors, were bought for junk and en tered into later books at higher figures. When Attorney Tomlinson ques tioned Mr. Shaw as to the salary that he received, the vice-president of the company maintained that this was a personal affair and while the figure and that of other officials of the -"mpanr were on file with the com mission. It was not proper to include It in the records. Salary la lS.OOO Annually. Mr Tomlinson insisted that he had a, right to ask for the information and that the public also had a right to know. After Attorney Shaw had objected formally in behalf of his superior, and before the commission had an opportunity to rule, Mr. Pills bury said that the point was not worth quarreling over and that he received 918.000 a year from the com pany. Under direct examination Mr. pills bury testified that 73.30 per cent of tb preferred slock of the Pacific Telephone & Telegraph company was owned by the American Telephone & Telegraph company. The remainder, he said, is owned largely by persons living on the Pacific coast. Six per cent interest was paid on the preferred stock in 1920, accord ing to the city's witness. Mr. Pillsbury was questioned as to the frequency of his trips to New York, and testified that he had been to New York two or three times in 1S20. once so far this year, and that in 1918 and 1919 he did not recall the number, although they were more than the trips made since that time. Sixteen Exhibits Preaented. Mr. Young presented IS exhibits containing data pertaining to the financial condition of the Oregon di vision of the Pacific Telephone & Tel egraph company, the entire division of the same company, the American Telephone & Telegraph company and the Western Electric company. Using figures furnished to him by the telephone company and audited by himself to prove that they were correct, Mr. Young testified that un der the rates in effect prior to the last advance the company faced a deficit of 338.686.80 during January and Feb ruary of this year. Attorney Shaw, in cross-examina-tio. computed the yearly deficit un der this return as 3232.000 and also developed the fact that the figures were computed without taking out in terest or dividends. In March. 1921, under the new rates, the company's computations as re vealed in an exhibit produced by Mr. Young showed that the total revenue in Oregon was 3440,560.11 and the total expenses amounted to 3372.657.73, leaving a net revenue of 367,902.33. Revenue Grovfth Xoted. In April, using the same computa tions, Mr. Young testified that the net revenue to the company was 343, 805.97. But when Mr. Young eliminated the 4sfe license agreement payment to the parent company, and substituted a 55-cents' yearly rental charge for in struments as advocated by the city, computing depreciation In accordance with the public service commission ruling and eliminating, income tax, he found a net revenue for the com pany during March of 398.375.99. on which figures he showed a 7.02 per cent return to the company comput ed on the base rate and 7.61 with the so-called super-surplus removed. Attorney Shaw did not think a great deal of this exhibit when he reached it In cross-examination. He asked if it had been computed in ac cordance with tae ruling of the com mission on depreciation. Hasty Conference Held. Attorney Tomlinson held a hasty conference with his ene-ineera after which he announced that the exhibit was prepared on a formula prepared by the city, and Attorney Shaw ac cepted it for its face value. Keducing the depreciation allow ance to 2 per cent, as advocated by the wu. uu eiiuiiiiatins the 44 per cent allowance as well as income tax, Mr. Young testified that the company would have received a return of 9.51 per cent in March and 7.81 per cent in April. These exhibUs were waved aside aa unimportant by counsel for the tele phone company, as were many of the others in this set. An error in a comparative" balance sheet of the American Telephone & Telegraph company made it impossi ble to analyze this particular exhibit. Mr. ' Tomlinson announced that the city would have the errors corrected before the hearing came to an end. Other Dividends Cited. From the years 1914 to 1920. Inclu sive, the Western Electric company, a subsidiary of the American Tele phone & Telegraph company, has paid 317.704.600 in dividends, according to an exhibit prepared by Mr. Young. It is presumed that these figures will be used by the city to prove that the inter-relation of the Western Elec tric company with the Pacific Tele phone & Telegraph company Is an important factor in high telephone rates. Before leaving the witness stand. Mr. Young paid a high compliment to the force of accountants and book keepers in the Oregon division of the telephone company. He informed the commission that his careful investi gation of methods employed convinced him that they were utilizing every possible means to introduce elements which will bring added efficiency and reduce costs. The present staff, he said, is com petent to keep a separate set of books, and in answer to a question placed by Mr. Tomlinson. he said that if the Oregon dvision of the company was on its own feet and assuring that the charge of 4 V4 per cent included ac counting service, he was certain that the books could be kept cheaper than they now are. Old Record Produced. On cross-examination Mr. Shaw pro duced a record in a former rate hear ing in which the witness had stated that separate accounts could not be Kept in uregon unless much added ex pense was entailed, but Mr. Young explained that in the former case he was testifying as to the conditions on inter-relation as they then existed. During the morning session, J. p. Newell, consulting engineer for the commission, recalled Engineer Willard to tne stand and asked questions per taining to his testimony relatinsr to depreciation reserves granted by other commissions. SILESIA DISCUSSED BY BRITISH CABINET Latest French Note Takeni Up at Conference. DOMINION PREMIERS AID Kepi y to Briand, Reaffirming That Situation Doesn't Justify More Troops, Is Forecast. LONDON, July 28. (By the Associ ated Press.) The latest French com munication insisting that more troops be sent into Upper Silesia immedi ately was understood to have been the subject of an important confer ence this morning, at which Premier Lloyd George, the dominion premiers and several cabinet members were present. It was understood Lord Curzon, for eign minister, would send a reply to Premier Enand, reaffirming the view that the situation in Upper Silesia does not justify the sending of more troops at the moment and urging the desirability of a meeting of the su preme council at an early date to deal with the report of . the allied commissioners in Silesia. The French government, in Its com munication last night, said it deemed it Impossible to decide on a meeting of the allied supreme council until the question of sending reinforce ments into Upper Silesia had been decided. The note said: "I am in a position to Inform you of the point of view of the German government relative to - the trans port of a French division across Ger many which has been the subject of discussions. The German, government has no intention of dealing with this question exclusively from the legal point of view. Meantime, it has be come known that the supreme coun cil will deal with this question. The German government does not hesi tate to state hereby that it will ac cept the decision of the supreme council. Germany will abide by the decision of the allied supreme council relative to the question of the transportation of a French division across Germany to reinforce the French troops in Upper Silesia, according to informa tion available here today? The Gorman foreign minister. Dr. Rosen. Informed the French ambassa dor in Berlin last night to this effect in a note. Envoys or 3 Xfitions Meet. PARIS. July 28. (By the Associated Press.) The British, French and Ital ian experts designated to draw up a supplementary report of the Upper Silesian situation held their first ses sion here this afternoon. GORKY ANSWERS HOOVER MESSAGE TO RUSSIA "GRATE " FULLY RECEIVED." Detailed. Reply to Secretary's Xote Concerning Release of Pris oners Coming Later. WASHINGTON. D. C. July 28. Secretary Hoover made public today the text of a brief reply received by radio from Maxim Gorky at Petro grad to Mr. Hoover's recent message saying American relief in Russia must be preceded by release of Americans detained by soviet au thorities. "Your message gratefully received," the radiogram said. "Detailed reply will be sent from Moscow by presi dent Russian famine relief com mittee." RIGA. July 28. (By the Associated Press.) An official denial that Rus sia has canceled all orders abroad. except for foodstuffs, and the an nouncement of two important con cessions are contained in a dispafch from the Rosta agency, the semi official bolshevik news agency, re ceived here. . The Great Northern Telegraph company has been granted 'telegraph concessions from Petrograd and Moscow to Denmark, Japan and China, and the German Goods Ex change company, which is the gen eral representative of the Trans Atlantic Export company of Germany, New York and Russia, is to be per mitted to open exchanges. NEW YORK. July 28. The entente iiljiij'ffc------ - Ail III jlil IlllMleAXAley-Bleii -Will New VICTOR RECORDS FOR AUGUST OX SALE TODAY 45249 Homing 7 ...Elsie Baker Sylvia Lambert Murphy $1.00 18762 Thinking of You . Peerless Quartet Carolina Lullaby Albert Campbell-Henry Burr 85c 18774 All by Myself Aileen Stanley Anna in Indiana Arthur Fields "" 85c 18775 Down Yonder Peerless Quartet. . Don't You Remember the Time ? Louise Terrell Charles Hart 85c 18776 Little Crumbs of Happiness Charles Harrison Springtime Charles Harrison 85c 45243 Mother Machree (harp solo) Alberto Salvi Scherzo in E Flat Minor Alberto Salvi $1.00 18769 Star of the Sea Reverie Florentine Quartet Meditation Florentine Quartet 85c 25709 Stars and Stripes Forever March Sousa's Band Golden Star Sousa's Band $1.35 18753 Canzonetta Victor String Orchestra In the Forest Victor Orchestra 85c 18771 Drowsy Head Medley Waltz Ferera-Franchini Isle of Paradise Medley Waltz. .. .Ferera-Franchini 85c DANCE RECORDS 18777 Cho-Cho-San Fox Trot Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra Song of India Fox Trot ....... . .Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra 85c 18778 Learn to Smile Fox Trot '. Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra Oh Me! Oh My! Medley Fox Trot.... Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra 85c 18772 St. Louis Blues Fox Trot . . . . i Original Dixieland Jazz Band Jazz Me Blues-r-Fox Trot Original Dixieland Jazz Band 85c 18773 I'm Nobody's Baby Fox Trot '. All Star Trio and Their Orchestra Listening Fox Trot .- '.All Star Trio and Their Orchestra The Free Sewing M achine Friday will be the last day of the I espionage system was directly in hearing in Salem, if present plans are carried out. The commission will hear the complaints of the members of the Oregon Hotel Men's associa tion tomorrow. Adjournment will be taken until Monday at 2 P. M.. when the hearing will be resumed at Portland. Attorney Tomlinson will begin the presentation of the rest of his evi dence at that time and will probably continue uniu Wednesday. The resi dents or Oak Grove. Milwaukia anrt Oregon City will be heard, after which tne telephone company will begin the presentation of its side of the argument. It is certain that the hearing will continue throughout next week and it is almost certain that it will go well into the week following. CAR UPSET, WOMAN D'EAD Mrs. William Matthews of Med ford Killed Xear Pasco. PASCO. Wash.. July 23. Mrs. 'Will iam Matthews of Medford, Or., was killed when the automobile in which she was riding with her husband was overturned in a sand storm about five miles east of here early today. Mr. Matthews managed to extricate him self from beneath the machine, but his wife was dead when she was removed. They had spent the night at the Pasco tourist camp and were en route for a visit with relatives at Spokane and Tyler, Wash. MEDFORD, Or., July 28. (Special.) Evidently there was a mistake in the telegraphic dispatches telling of the death of Mrs. William Matthews of Medford. Or., in an automobile ac cident near Pasco, Wash., early to day and sent out from Pasco. There is no Mrs. William Matthews listed in thr Medford directory, the telephone directory or the Jackson county tax list, and the two Matthews families, one in Medford and one on a ranch' near the city, have no knowledge of anyone of that name in this city Phone your want ads to The Ore- gonian. Main 70i0. Automatic 560-95, volved in counter-revolutionary plots unearthed at Petrograd and in the western provinces of Russia, accord ing to a cable received today from the official Russian Telegraph agency by the publication Soviet Russia. "The ringleaders in the Petrograd conspiracy," said the message "headed by the notorious monarchist leader. Professor Tagantseff, con fessed to plans, backed by French espionage agents. to. assassinate leading communists and soviet workers and to blow up offices, rail ways. ' factories. and poison red troops. "The Petrograd conspirators con fessed their share in the Kronstadt mutiny, the principal leaders of which were hired entente spies." Polish military authorities and the French mission at arsaw are charged with abetting the counter revolutionary movement In the western provinces. Snowball Pierces Eye. COLORADO SPRINGS. Col., July 28. They're throwing snowballs on Pike's Peak. J. C. Williams of this city may lose one of his eyes as result. Williams was ascending the mountain with a party of tourists last night. A descending tourist party engaged in a friendly snow ball battle with the ascending group. A snowball thrown by a woman hit Williams. Justice Swift In China. SUCHIEN, Kiangsu Province. In stead of moving pictures, baseball games or similar diversions of . the western world. Chinese communities like thfs little town have as their sole form of public amusement the rather frequent public executions Efforts of the authorities to check 143 Sixth Near Alder 85c $1.25 ' $1.75 $1.25 $1.75 $1.25 $1.25 $1.25 $1.25 $1.75 ?1.75 $1.25 $1.75 $1.25 Check those wanted and detach for shopping memo or mail this ad as ycur order. Name Address 64967 88635 64949 88636 64968 64969 87327 64970 74692 74691 64971 88637 64972 RED SEAL RECORDS Girometta (My Sweetheart) Sophie Braslau. T' m'Arricordo e Napule! Enrico Caruso Dream Faces ...Emilio de Gogorza Masked Ball Morro ma prima in grazia Emmy Destinn Country Dance... 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They are becoming and irresistibly youthful, and for women of more than average figure effect considerable slender ness of line. We have about one hundred in this group, developed of linene in a wide range of fascinating colors lavender, rose, pink, blue, Copenhagen, green and all-white, appropriate for morning or afternoon wear. Sizes 1 6 to 42. Fourth Floor Lipman, Wolfe. Sr Co. Prices Reduced in a BIG way on our Entire Stock of Men's and Young Men's Suite Featuring four groups including hundreds of Suits at $25.50 $34.50 $39.50 . $44.50 c. r f i r i HI .,-..-jSS- V Diein-Diocn, sangnam ffifjCbs tamous makes The Balance of our entire stock also reduced. "Ss . . 'J-' it This has been a most gratifying, satisfactory season. We have made it so by giving exceptional values, one after the other, to which the public has splendidly responded with generous business. Today we are going forward to even greater things. Inaugurat ing a big Business-Making and Stock-Reducing Sale as the climax of the season. To do this we are making prices on This Season's New Suits that will win Ms hosts of new friends and bind the old ones to us closer than ever before. We want you to be one of them. Fifth Floor Lipman, Wolfe & Co. th deoredatlons of numerous bands of robbers in this district result in the capture of not a few of tne of fenders, who ordinarily are dealt with summarily. An example of how swiftlv lustice sometimes works in China was given recently when 11 robbers were executed. seven or these had been under arrest. less than 24 hours. Red Shield Inn Given Army. 4krD iwts Tacoma. Wash. United States army officers and tkeir families here are to be given use of the Red Shield inn. which was built by the Salvation Army nere aunnB the war at a cost of $100,000. Re cently the building was presented by the Salvation Army to the govern ment, which has turned it over to the officers here wno win operaic n on a co-operative basis. Jaywalkers to Be Tagged. nr nnp Arii. Reckless walking in the downtown district here in future is to be an offense the same as reck less driving is.- The police have in- augurated a campaign m "jay-walking" in the business section of the city. Broad green lines have been painted on the streetaat the corners indicating the proper method of crossing, and persons ignoring the lines will be tagged much as an auto mobile is tagged when it has been left standing in the street in viola tion of a traffic ordinance. The tag will invite the wearer to visit the police judge. "Red Rock" Cottage Cheese 1 s if you've never tast ed it, you have a de light in store; if you have, you need ho urging from us. buy and eat some Red-Rock today to morrow every day ! It's the perfect food! Red Rock Dairy Hillsdale Flying Boats Ordered. EDMONTON. Alta. Three flying boats of five-passenger capacity will inaugurate a passenger service from here to the north, according to J. C. Gibson. Mr. Gibson recently returned from the east where he arranged for the shipment of the machines. Sev eral big flying boats of a different and our own brands of Fine Shirts in the Clearance At $1.95 Shirts of woven madras or other excellent fab rics. . At $2.95 Famous "Gal ley & Lord" fiber silk shirts. At $4.55 Manhattan "So lustra" shirts of mad ras with mercerized stripes. At $5.65 Manhattan "Solsilka shirts, as beautiful and long-wearing as they are sheer and lustrous. Just Inside Washington Street Entrance Lipman, Wolfe & Co. OH . I This Store Uses No Comparative Prices They Are Misleading and Often Untrue K type from those now on the way west will be put on the route later. They will have a capacity of 12 pas sengers each, it was stated. The im mediate programme of the company is said to be the installation of an aerial service to Fort Norman and intermediate points Disappointed Robber Suicide. VIENNA. Forcing 'his employer's safe and finding only about S20 worth of crowns, Rudolph Twrdik hanged appointment after so hard a job himself. Tpaviner a note that the dis- I more than he couli ptand. o Friday and Saturday s Last Two Days of ig V2 Price Wall Paper Sale . - at , Smith's Wall Paper House Second Street Between Washington and Stark Sts. I' r - 1 u xj WE'SISIEISEIB I Big as din a 3 j il!l lll ll 1 All 111 Ef 1 B33l33i gy "3 Broadway, Washington and Stark Greetings' and Best Wishes to the Buyers of the Iforthwest! Come and get what you want, when you want it, at established headquarters for both the buyers and commercial salesmen in this territory; come and meet your friends and be at home. imperial JJotel